US PSP sales up a lot - Sony

Must be all those ace games! Oh.

As the shortage of PlayStation 3 units continues in the US and Canada sales of PS2 and PlayStation Portable are booming, according to Sony Computer Entertainment America.

In a statement, communications boss David Karraker said the top five retailers in North America were reporting a week-by-week rise in PS2 hardware sales of more than 115 per cent over the Thanksgiving period. Sales of PSP units, meanwhile, were up by 280 per cent.

Sales of first-party software are also up, according to SCEA. PS2 game sales rose by 120.6 per cent, with PSP software sales increasing by almost 168 per cent.

Sony has yet to publish figures for exactly how many PlayStation 3 units have been sold in North America since the console launched there on 17th November.

However, Karraker did confirm that all PS3s shipped to the US last week have been sold, adding, "More are already on their way for this week.

"Feedback from our retail partners is that demand is still incredibly high and that PS3s put on store shelves were quickly snapped up by holiday shoppers," he went on.

"We will continue to utilise airfreight delivery for the PlayStation 3 to assure a steady stream of systems for North American consumers through the end of the year."

As previously announced, Sony plans to ship one million PS3 units by the end of the year.

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  • Steroyd #1 5 years ago

  • Blerk #2 5 years ago

    I wish they wouldn't just give percentages - they're absolutely meaningless without some kind of base sales figure.

    280% up sounds good, but it could mean "we sold 280".
  • Talha #3 5 years ago

    @Blerk: Even a passing acquaintance with mathematics would enable one to surmise that sales increase of 280 against 0 is an infinite value in terms of percentage. ;-)

  • Blerk #4 5 years ago

    Uh... that's nice, but 280 units is 280% more than 1, not 0. :-)
  • Machiavel #5 5 years ago

    All those PS3s airshipped to America, probably waving at all those PS3s passing by, airshipping somewhere else from the Ebayites.
  • Blerk #6 5 years ago

    Imagine how big a plane you would need to ship PS3s!

    I wonder how many you can get on a single plane before it won't fly any more? ^_^
  • Fozzie_bear #7 5 years ago

    Uh... that's nice, but 280 units is 280% more than 1, not 0. :-)

    No it isn't. 3.8 units is 280% more than 1.

    You're obviously tired from too much work Blerk.... better take tomorrow off to recover :)
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 08:44
  • Steroyd #8 5 years ago

    Yeah dude 280 from 0 is a 28000% increase.

    I hate percentages butI think that's right.
  • joey #9 5 years ago

    Dec 25th 2006.....

    "Arrrgh. Mom I said PS3 ..THREE, not PEE"
  • Blerk #10 5 years ago

    No it isn't. 3.8 units is 280% more than 1.

    /scratches head

    2.8, surely? :-)
  • bigbadbeasty #11 5 years ago

    I think it would be a 3.8 units, total.
  • Blerk #12 5 years ago

    Where's Carol Vorderman when you need her?
  • Scientist #13 5 years ago

    More importantly, how do the PSP sales compare to last Thanksgiving?

    Thanksgiving is the biggest sales period in the US anyway, so a massive sales spike from the previous week is hardly surprising.

    Actual sales, please. Not percentages.

  • Vroom #14 5 years ago

    Blerk you are right :o)

    280% of 1 is surely 2.8

    also btw

    280% of 0 is still zero
  • Blerk #15 5 years ago

    PSP sold 353,434 units in the US last November, no figures on how much of an improvement on October that was.

    PS2 sold 535,000 in the same period, up 112% on the October figures (252,000 units).

    Edit: Source.
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 09:13
  • Dizzy #16 5 years ago

    >to ship one million PS3 units by the end of the year

    Hehe.. and the Wii 4 million... if only Sony had made some more. Now 360 and Wii will eat into peoples budget for massive damage.

    Ok ok....
    /grabs hat
  • Blerk #17 5 years ago

    Blerk you are right :o)

    280% of 1 is surely 2.8


    Actually I was wrong - I forgot that it was a 280% increase. So it's 280% of 1, which is 2.8, plus the original 1 - 3.8. Where has all my maths knowledge gone?
  • Steroyd #18 5 years ago

    Why?

    If the Xbox sold 0 units one week than 1 unit the next it's counted as a 100% increase. :/

    280% of 1 is 3.8 because it's 1*2.8 + 1=3.8.
  • Psychotext #19 5 years ago

    You guys need to get out more... =P
  • bigbadbeasty #20 5 years ago

    "If the Xbox sold 0 units one week than 1 unit the next it's counted as a 100% increase. :/ "

    Eh?

    Zero to 1 surely does not equate to 100%??
  • Talha #21 5 years ago

    @Blerk: Hope you have seen the light!

    @Vroom: This happens when you learn your maths from tabloids. Stand in the corner facing the wall!

    Am I the only one here with a working knowledge of mathematics? ;-)
  • Muddtallica #22 5 years ago

    Gah! Maths!! Get it away, kill it, kill it!

    And yeah, it was my recollection that anything multiplied or divided by zero is still zero, surely?
  • bigbadbeasty #23 5 years ago

    That is also my understanding too
  • username #24 5 years ago

    That's it! I've had it with these motherf*ckin' PS3s on this motherf*ckin' plane!
  • username #25 5 years ago

    I really need some coffee.
  • X201 #26 5 years ago

    Airfreight!

    It must be costing them a fortune.

  • SeesThroughAll #27 5 years ago

    This shows WHY the DS has such an advantage, exactly: price.
  • theweaze #28 5 years ago

    no one is even disputing the dig at psp games anymore. interesting. although MGS looks sweet.
  • Tomo #29 5 years ago

    I read it as 280 PSPs... thought we had some Sony bashing going on there for a minute.
  • Tomo #30 5 years ago

    Oh... it is 280 on the front page.
  • Rambaldi #31 5 years ago

    Yes, but 280% up on what? I mean, 280% on, say, 500 isn't really much at all.

    It says something about how dire their sales are if they need to quote percentage increases instead of actual units sold
  • Steroyd #32 5 years ago

    a 100% increase from 0 is an increase of 1.

    100/100 = 1
    0+1 = 1

    100% increase.

    The 0*1 part of the equation is negated because as Tahla said 0 is an infinite value in terms of percentage.

    This is why i hate maths you have to use logical thinking as well as the equation you're given.
    Basically think outside the box.
  • Markusdragon #33 5 years ago

    Ug, too early in the morning for all this maths. Can we just say that it's not as impressive as it sounds?
  • JonFE #34 5 years ago

    Blerk, that gamefront.de link is for November 2005, what gives???
  • Psychotext #35 5 years ago

    Ignoring all the maths. Of course the bloody sales went up, it's coming up to xmas. Would be much more interested to compare the numbers from this year and last year.
  • Steroyd #36 5 years ago

    Of course the sales aren't impressive why the hell are we having a Maths discussion lol.
  • Talha #37 5 years ago

    READ MY LIPS:

    ANYTHING DIVIDED BY 0 IS INFINITY.
    ANYTHING MULTIPLIED BY 0 is 0.

    THEREFORE, AN INCREASE OF 1 UNIT OVER 0 UNITS IS INFINITE %AGE. Although I admit, for clarity's sake many newspaper/books count anything up from 0 as a 100% increase.

    THAT DOESN"T MAKE IT CORRECT, IDIOTS.

    Bow before me y'all, the master of all mathematics and logical thinking.

    /feels better now
  • Blerk #38 5 years ago

    Blerk, that gamefront.de link is for November 2005, what gives???

    Scientist asked how the sales compared to last November, hence the 2005 sales. We don't have figures for 2006 yet. :-)
  • fats #39 5 years ago

    Is there any particular reason why Eurogamer have this obsessive need to be extremely sarcastic towards Sony? I mean, it's bad enough that everyone is at it, but journalists themselves?
  • jiveguy #40 5 years ago

    Journalists are everyone too! Don't hate them because they don't have real jobs.
  • Kami #41 5 years ago

    Alright Talha, breathe and relax.

    I gave up long ago trying to argue mathematics with people...
  • AcidSnake #42 5 years ago

    I support you Talha!
    From 0 to whatever units is an infinite increase...
  • bigbadbeasty #43 5 years ago

    Of course you support him, it is correct :)
  • CallousB #44 5 years ago

    Wow. Sony sales increase in the busiest shopping week of the year in the US....who would have thunk it.

    In other news...it has been revealed that pumpkin sales increased by 5000% the last week of October.
  • lasermink #45 5 years ago

    When sales are "up by" 280%, that means that the sales have increased by an amount corresponding to 280% of what they previously were. So if the sales were previously 1 unit, then the new sales are 1 unit + 280% of 1 unit (which is 2.8 units), therefore the sales are now 3.8 units.

    This is the normal way of using percentages in business, even if it is a bit silly looking to scientists and mathematicians who generally avoid percentages altogether and just use decimal fractions.

    edit: um, what everybody said...
    Edited by 2 at 30/11/06 @ 10:21
  • Kami #46 5 years ago

  • lambtron #47 5 years ago

    You lie CallousB you despicable pumpkin fanboy! ;)
  • Tonka #48 5 years ago

    But it's impossible to sell 3.8 units.

    IMPOSSIBLE I TELL YOU.
  • AcidSnake #49 5 years ago

    I support you lasermink!
    As you are right as well and talha was just right on the infinite increase thingy...
    :)

    Oh and does anyone have the DS percentage increase for the same period?
    To put it into perspective...
  • lasermink #50 5 years ago

    Um, Talha, you cannot divide by 0, and infinity is not a quantity.
  • pretence #51 5 years ago

    everyone just forget about the zero and theres no problem.... just slowly step away from the zero....
  • Scientist #52 5 years ago

  • tiddles #53 5 years ago

    Imagine how big a plane you would need to ship PS3s!

    I wonder how many you can get on a single plane before it won't fly any more? ^_^


    You could use one of these...

    Apparently the maximum cargo weight is 250,000kgs, so if a PS3 weighs roughly 5kgs, then you could get 50,000 units on each flight.
  • AcidSnake #54 5 years ago

    I support you Tiddles!

    Though it's more down to space rather than weight...I'd think...

    I thought the judges were still out on the fact that infinity might be a quantity?
    If infinity is not a quantity then neither is zero...
    Hmm, makes kind of sense...
  • SBfistfun #55 5 years ago

    you're missing the point entirely.

    100% of PSP games are shite.
    sblikesitupalot
  • melw #56 5 years ago

    Math fanboy clash! Go go go!

    (What was the news about again? Can't remember...)
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 10:37
  • ShekkyBoy #57 5 years ago

    Why don't we start a discussion into quantum mechanics or string theory while we're chatting maths!!!!??!?!11
  • lasermink #58 5 years ago

    What I meant is, infinity is not a number on the real line (is not an element in the set of Real Numbers). 0 is.
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 10:40
  • Talha #59 5 years ago

    @lasermink: What you point out is an error of syntax rather than an error of concept, which is forgiveable since English is not my first language. And I never said that infinity is a number.

    naa-na-na-naa-ner

    @Everybody else: Lookeeee - EG changed the headline of this article!!!! Yippeee!!! Victory of the enlightened!

    /Hugs and cuddles calculator
    coos soothingly to it
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 10:43
  • Steroyd #60 5 years ago

    EG changed the title the 280% it was too controversal. :)

    LOL.
  • Nova5lag #61 5 years ago

    Wouldnt it be great if firmware for the PSP came as a percentage... that way judging by the fact that no one here can agree if its 280% 2.8 units or 3.8 units... they would contantly be arguing over firmware 3.00% increaing by xxx% to 3.01% rather than decrypting it and opening the psp up... hang on. no that wouldnt be great. *gets my coat*
  • JediMasterMalik #62 5 years ago

    0 is not a number. It is the lack of any value, positive or negative. Neither is infinity, infinity is simply a concept made to make a physicists life easier.

    @SBFistfun - Then how do you explain 72 "green" titles, compared to 45, on the DS on metacritic?

    (not that metacritic is always right, but PSP games are far from crap)
  • SBfistfun #63 5 years ago

    Morons will by any rubbish that's how
  • AcidSnake #64 5 years ago

    Zero is not a number like black is not a colour you are saying?

    However it is contained in the aforementioned Real Numbers (N) isn't it?
    Making it a number (for Real)
    And what about 0 devided by 0?
  • Talha #65 5 years ago

    @JediMasterMalik: I guess you will have to explain the concept of 'Metacritic' to the DS-wielding crowd in more detail, just like I had to rave on about percentages! ;-)

    /just a JOKE people, no offence intended
  • infoxicated #66 5 years ago

    I've come to loathe the way that Eurogamer leads the fanboy extremists with subtitles dripping with sarcasm, like "Must be all those ace games! Oh." It's tabloid journalism at its most gutteral - I remember when this place was above all that.

    If you cant find good games to play on the PSP then you're not even trying - I have more games on the go on my PSP now than I do on my PS2. Killzone, Ace Combat, and Vice City Stories have been in constant rotation since I got them, and I still intend to go back to Football Manager, Wipeout Pure, and will pick up Madden 2007 if it's ever released over here, and SOCOOM FTB 2 when it comes out.

    That's a shedload of fine games by anyone's criteria.
  • Talha #67 5 years ago

    If 0 is not a number, stop using it in your calculations!

    sorry, having too good a time to quite now!
  • Steroyd #68 5 years ago

    yes and i bet Nintendo trumpeting the fact that they sold 2 million in the UK is to make themselves feel good.
  • JediMasterMalik #69 5 years ago

    Morons will by any rubbish that's how


    Looks like Talha was right.

    Let me explain, what you just said was an insult to DS owners. They have less good games according to reviewers, and yet games and console sales are far higher than the PSP. So yeh, morons will buy DS's and their games...

    ...Note this is not my opinion, simply a reply to SBfistfun.
  • mkreku #70 5 years ago

    I just have to add that the Antonov An-225 is the coolest aircraft ever!

    Thanks for the link, tiddles.
  • lasermink #71 5 years ago

    Heh, N are the Natural Numbers - {1, 2, ...}. Sometimes 0 is included in the Natural Numbers, mostly in computer science. R are the Real Numbers.
  • evilashchris #72 5 years ago

    I demand more maths talk! i don't understand it but it makes me feel good..

    /touches self/
  • Steroyd #73 5 years ago

    Lasermink leave the numbers alone there was already a heated discussion about maths on page one.

    Take this any further and it could get really ugly.
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 11:00
  • Kami #74 5 years ago

    Mathematicians are the last people you'd expect to find arguing on Eurogamer...

    Let them have a fight here - it would certainly be interesting if not educational. Or would you rather we brought in the Nintendo and X-Box fanboys instead?

    My point precisely. Let the math fiends play, it'll keep the ignorant fanboys out of the thread... "OMGWTFBBQ?! Numb0rZ? FLEE!"
  • Tonka #75 5 years ago

    Vulcan is much cooler than the anotov one. I am fortunate enough to have seen one take off and land IRL. The shriek of that giant delta wing against the air shook my bone marrow. It was truly a sight for sore eyes.
  • jiveguy #76 5 years ago

    So let me get this straight, the PSP sold nearly 4 units in the US?

    Or am I missing something?
  • SeesThroughAll #77 5 years ago

    @ lasermink, Jedi and Talha: sorry, but 0 IS a natural number.
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 11:11
  • AcidSnake #78 5 years ago

    Ok, my bad...
    So 0 is not a real number...But I have found the response to why there are 75 green metacritic PSP titles and 45 DS ones...Hang on...

    PSP 75 of 202 green=(roughly) 37,13% green
    DS 45 of 170 green =(roughly) 26,47% green

    However, though the PSP has a bigger screen, the DS has two of them...And by comparing screen surface we come to this conclusion:
    Creating a new constant in surface measurement which shall be measured in AcidSnakes (AS) with 1 AS equaling the surface of the PSP screen:
    PSP surface 1 AS * 37,13 = 37,13
    DS surfaces combined 1,40 AS * 26,47 = 37,13

    So they're exactly the same!
    It's now scientifically proven!
    All you have to do now is decide which games you all like and stop whining!
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 11:12
  • JediMasterMalik #79 5 years ago

    LOL

    That was funny Acid Snake, even for this thread that was very well done. =D
  • Talha #80 5 years ago

    @AcidSnake: I hereby nominate you for the Nobel Prize.

    To share it with me, of course! What did you think?

    And by the way, where did the 1.4 come from?
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 11:19
  • Kostabi #81 5 years ago

    Acid Snake: Pure gold.
  • PearOfAnguish #82 5 years ago

    Just keep banging that Sony drum, Jedi! One day someone will care.
  • Talha #83 5 years ago

    Continuing our discussion drawing on the golden principles of mathematics, how is PSP supposed to be a failure? Being second is not failing.

    Perhaps failure is that I don't want to buy a PSP ever. But then, I don't want to buy a DS too! ;-)

    Edit: By the way, imagine anyone looking at the heading and reading the number '86' on the comments link. Just imagine their face! Kudos to everybody.
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 11:30
  • AcidSnake #84 5 years ago

    Thanks.. :)

    (Actually the 1.4 was a totally fabricated value so that they equal each other...but shhh! Don't let the fanboys hear you!)
  • SeesThroughAll #85 5 years ago

    And by the way, where did the 1.4 come from?

    It's what physicists call a fudge factor. Basically, it's an arbitrary factor one multiplies his result for in order to get the number he wants.
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 11:33
  • Steroyd #86 5 years ago

    Yeah failure is sharing the same fate as the Nokia N-Gage, the Gizmondo before it, but the PSP has sold more than any of them combined.
  • SeesThroughAll #87 5 years ago

    So 0 is not a real number...

    Oh, and sorry for being annoying, but R contains N.
  • Talha #88 5 years ago

    @Acid: Thanks for letting me in on this great mystery, otherwise I'd have sealed myself in my room with a ruler and a calculator and, coupled with firing up Google images to search JPEGs of PSP and DS, made a complete ass of myself before my family. ;-)
  • Psychotext #89 5 years ago

    This thread delivers.
  • Foxclose #90 5 years ago

    Whatever, they are selling more!
  • JediMasterMalik #91 5 years ago

    @PearofAnguish - Apparently you already do.

    There was no Sony drum banging, I was simply pointing out that all PSP games are not crap. How is that drum banging?
  • [maven] #92 5 years ago

    According to NPD (US numbers sold, not shipped):
    October 2005 PSP = 131,000
    November 2005 PSP = 353,000
    which gives us an 269% increase for November 2005.

    So, big deal, Sony. Give us absolute numbers... :)
  • Talha #93 5 years ago

    About this thread, yes, even the ugly monster of fanboyism reared its head now and then, but it was effectively curbed by sheer brilliance of my comments.


    ANd..um......er....ok.... others too! ;-)

    Jokes aside, I sincerely thank everyone, especially Acid for lighting up a boring day at the office. And no doubt, doing the same for everyone who reads it.
  • Steroyd #94 5 years ago

    Best comments section to reach 100 replies EVER!!
  • Psychotext #95 5 years ago

    [maven]: Good post that man...
  • sillak #96 5 years ago

  • floppylobster #97 5 years ago

    And 2 + 2 = 5. Our didn't any else have to read Nineteen Eighty-Four at school?

    So is the 'Pee' becoming the offical nickname for the PS3? Pee vs. Wii vs. 360. It does have a nice rhythm to it. Not that it's a competition or anything. It's all about the games right? And the sales figures obviously. Sales figures always determine which is the better product. It's like box-office takings at the movies. Clearly Big Momma's House 2 is better than Scarface. Anyone can see that. It's 40% better.
  • Talha #98 5 years ago

    floppylobster: As for best-selling things being BEST, your post is the first one to present that idea in this forum
  • Scientist #99 5 years ago

  • Goffee #100 5 years ago

    To cap this off then; DS Lite sales = PSP sales Squared (DS=PSP^2), sounds about right!

    I'll point out that on my daily slog up and down the Jubilee Line all the Canary Wharf suits play PSPs while the urban West Ham brigade play DS Lites. Who do you think knows more about games out of those two dispirate groups?
  • floppylobster #101 5 years ago

    And that is why they call you the Scientist.

    I am 65% more right than someone who believes that gameplay determines the better game. But only 20% more correct than the one who believes graphics are the key determiner.
  • Psychotext #102 5 years ago

    This is all taking me back to learning discrete mathematics on my software engineering degree. I'LL KILL YOU ALL! =(
  • KillahSouljah #103 5 years ago

    Sony's booming, there's nothing stopping Sony.

    Nice one Eurogamer for posting good news about Sony.
  • Santino #104 5 years ago

    you are full of crap floppy lobster, it is an undisputable fact that 83% of statistics are false so the chances of your statement being correct are miniscule. and watch your mouth big mommas house 2 was an amazing film in every sense, a true epic.
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 12:57
  • floppylobster #105 5 years ago

    I'll admit I cried at the end of Big Momma's House 2. But they still wouldn't give my money back.
  • floppylobster #106 5 years ago

    What about this one, "There's a 10% chance of rain". What the hell does that mean? 1 out of 10 clouds will rain on you?

    Makes about as much sense as that American one about giving 110% effort if you ask me.

    If there's one figure we should give respect to I guess it's the 3 on the end of PS3. If they're up to 3 they must be doing something right.

    Although they did just make a 3rd "I know what you did last summer" called "I'll always know what you did last summer". I wish I was making that up.
  • king_skins #107 5 years ago

  • Dr_Evil #108 5 years ago

    @floppylobster.

    2+2 does equal 5. Tony Blair told me so.
  • AcidSnake #109 5 years ago

    Back from lunchbreak

    @Talha:
    You're welcome...
    Couldn't have done it without you... :)
  • Steroyd #110 5 years ago

    If DS sales are beating the PSP in the UK sales by 2.5 to 1 and the DS has sold 2 million that means that Sony have sold 800,000 PSP's the population in the UK is 50 million so 6% of people in the UK have own a PSP in their houshold (or 1 in every 16 houses).
    In comparison to the DS which has a 15% of the population that own a DS (or one in every 7).

    Shhh... these are figures Sony doesn't want you to see.
  • Scientist #111 5 years ago

    @ Steroyd

    Actually the average household size in the UK according to the 2001 census is 2.36 people. The population is 60,441,457 so the number of households is 25,610,787.
    So there is a DS in ever...
    /head explodes
  • Steroyd #112 5 years ago

    Whoops i somehow veered off into households when i meant people population.

    So you have a 15% chance of meeting someone else that has a DS, I like those odds.
    Then we factor in the percentage that are women and...

    /caculator implodes
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 15:06
  • Muddtallica #113 5 years ago

    JediMasterMalik: "There was no Sony drum banging, I was simply pointing out that all PSP games are not crap. How is that drum banging?"

    It's drum banging because all PSP games, without exception, are crap. Crap crap crap. This is a universal and unimpeachable truth, regardless of whether or not it is actually true. If you express any sentiment that could even remotely be described as positive towards any PSP game, it means you are a brainwashed zealot, you are mentally deranged, or you are Kaz Hirai. In all of the above cases, you must be shot.

    I hope this has clarified things. :p

    Also: I clicked on this page after noticing it had racked up 100+ posts, in the hope of reading a good old-fashioned flame war, only to discover that the majority of those posts had been spent discussing maths. :/
  • Hughes. #114 5 years ago

    Nice tag line for the article. Now I can have the EG troll experience without having to read the comments section. Smart work.
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 17:43
  • TonyBlair #115 5 years ago

    YO! Malik + Steroyd from the Sony Centre DO THE MATH!

    ONLY ONE DUNCE CAP I'M AFRAID! BUT FOUR CORNERS U CHOOSE!

    :)

    Do u want fries with that!

    SONY R gonna replace my Bravia YIPPEE KAY YAY!
  • yagisencho #116 5 years ago

    "Sales of PSP units, meanwhile, were up by 280 per cent...PSP software sales increasing by almost 168 per cent."

    In other words, a tie rate of 0.6 Sony-published titles per PSP sold (at least for the increased sales portion). Wowzers. Quite the uh...accomplishment.
  • tiddles #117 5 years ago

    I just have to add that the Antonov An-225 is the coolest aircraft ever!

    I thought it was particularly cool that there is only one of them in existence, although it does get a lot of use and they are apparently thinking of building another.

    Sony has in fact used Antonovs in the past to transport consoles in for Christmas, although possibly not ones as large as the An-225...
    Edited by 1 at 30/11/06 @ 22:08
  • secombe #118 5 years ago

    Vulcan is much cooler than the anotov one. I am fortunate enough to have seen one take off and land IRL. The shriek of that giant delta wing against the air shook my bone marrow. It was truly a sight for sore eyes.

    Whilst in itself that is hard to argue with (yep I have seen one flying myself, stunning) for the purposes of this thread it's hardly practical, keep up!

    Ignoring the fact that as I understand it there is not a single Vulcan capable of flight on the entire planet, it would probably be only be able to carry about 1900 PS3s even if space wasn't an issue (which it is), so financially it's not entirely viable.
    Edited by 2 at 01/12/06 @ 00:25
  • dr_lha #119 5 years ago

    Its called "Christmas Shopping".
  • Redeye #120 5 years ago

    PSP games are only 96% crap.

    /divides thread by 0
  • projectmayhem #121 5 years ago

    psp sales are up, no doubt. i work in a store and it's noticable. it's not because it's sony, or because the psp is uber leet. it's because finally, there's software worth buying on it