More DOA Volleyball 2 news

Cameraman mode promised.

Team Ninja boss Tomonobu Itagaki has revealed that the sequel to Dead or Alive Xtreme Beach Volleyball will feature a cameraman mode.

In an interview with Famitsu, Itagaki said you'll be able to take shots of all your favourite scenes and preferred poses. And to make sure the ladies you'll be photographing look lovelier than ever, Team Ninja is designing a whole new beach wear range, using fancy cloth simulation technology.

There will be a variety of modes to choose from, and they won't all be based around volleyball - although that's all Itagaki's saying for the moment. He also declined to reveal whether all of the modes will be playable online.

According to Itagaki, the game is coming along nicely - Team Ninja were hard at work throughout January and February, despite the fact they were also producing an online update for DOA4. Itagaki joshed that if Team Ninja were developing games any faster, he'd be dead.

He admitted that disk space had caused problems for the team when it came to Dead or Alive 4 - apparently they used all the available space up far too fast, and had to make lots of last minute adjustments. They're keeping a closer eye on things when it comes to DOAX2, though.

Team Ninja is set to reveal more of the game at E3, including the non-volleyball related modes - so roll on May.

Comments (26) Latest comment 6 years ago

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  • CyberClaw #1 6 years ago

    Topless mode godhand cheat tricksy confirmed!!!..

    Or not. I feel no shame in wanting to buy this game...
  • Furbs #2 6 years ago

    DoA4 filled a DVD9? I cry bullshit.

    Still, cant wait to see the visuals on this :p
  • CyberClaw #3 6 years ago

    Furbs, it's not really that hard to fill a DVD9 for team ninja. Ninja Gaiden filled a DVD9. DOA4 has as many FMVs, in HD (which makes them take way more space), and the textures are much more detailed than in Ninja Gaiden.
  • Stickman #4 6 years ago

    Does it feature a 'get them naked and jiggling for just long enough' mode?
  • Universal_Hamster #5 6 years ago

    Plus, with XBLive, you get to see who on your friends list is in jiggling mode.
  • reality_cheque #6 6 years ago

    I know at least one person who I'll have to bombard with 'PERV!' messages :)
  • Furbs #7 6 years ago

    CyberClaw, NinjaGaiden definitely didnt fill a DVD9...it might have been over the 4.5gb limit, but it wasnt a full disc. Plus it was filled with duplicate files all over the place.
  • ilmaestro #8 6 years ago

    /blithers
    /blathers
    /dribbles

    Can't wait!
  • Zuiyo #9 6 years ago

    A 4.7 Gb disc is a DVD 5, not DVD 9.
  • Tweakmonkey #10 6 years ago

    Who gives a monkeys about disk space? Show us the pics! ;-)
  • Furbs #11 6 years ago

    Zuiyo - I know :p
    I meant it filled (or even went over) DVD5 but was nowhere near filling a DVD9.

    And I've just checked the "iffy/dodgy/arrr" version of DOA4 spans 98x 50mb volumes so the iso is probably only about 6gb. Apparently there was a big "dummy" file.
    Edited by Furbs at 30/03/06 @ 16:14
  • Furbs #12 6 years ago

    Neither is Jessica Rabbit, but given half a chance...
  • CyberClaw #13 6 years ago

    Furbs, the Ninja Gaiden Iso weights near 9 gigs. The only duplicted files, are the FMV files, which are both with both english and japanese language - and only those that feature any dialogue at all (FMVs without dialogue are not duplicated).

    I was part of the Ninja Hackers comunity, and did some skins myself back in the day the forums weren't closed and the administrator wasn't in court...

    So, let me explain better why I believe DOA4 takes up the 9 gigs.
    -First the devs said so, and they said they needed to cut on stuff
    -Seccond, all the FMVs, are in High Definition - which obviously takes a whole lot more space than Ninja Gaiden's FMVs. All story characters have ending FMVs, and then there is the monster FMV that shows the link betwen all FMVs when you finish with Helena (that FMV alone must take up a ton of space).

    Finally, the textures, both in clothing (look at Kasumi C1 kimono - we can finally see clearly that's blue velvet), and in scenary, must take up a whole lot of space. DOA Ultimate Vol 1, which featured no FMVs what so ever, had a Iso of 4+ gigs if memory serves me.

    What's so hard in believing that DOA4 took 9 gigs? It's only natural, specially when it comes to Team Ninja texturing methodes (if you opened up their textures, you'd be amazed at the ammount of detail which was mostly useless - for example in Dead or Alive 3, the dogtags arround Bayman's neck, feature a 64x256 texture with all his personal data (blood type, name, etc) - despite not being "seeable" during gameplay). Various layers of clothing are many times fully textured (so that if a jacket opens, you see the clothing bellow) - to the point of having fully textured "boobies" (lacking nipples of course, and back in DOA3, lacking stars as well) behind many kimonos and tshirts (despite the full boobie never coming into view during gameplay).

    Yea, I have no doubt DOA4 takes 9 gigs. If you are really curious and don't believe I'll check the ISO size.
  • CyberClaw #14 6 years ago

    Furbs, the size of a compressed file, is very different from the size of a uncompressed file. And not thanks to dummy files, but thanks to advanced compressing algorithms (Daggerfall iso for example, takes 600 megs, but can be compressed into 150 megs).
  • Furbs #15 6 years ago

    pwnt :p

    I'll have to check my HDD though, I've ripped NG:B to it and theres no way its 9gb. Maybe the ripping software I used relinked files.

    From what you're saying though, it simply sounds like they are very inefficient when it comes to coding - using models that arent needed or are never seen. To me that still justifies my call of "bullshit" since its perfectionism to the point of non-viability. Not to mention filling a disc with FMV and then complaining you are running out of space is taking the piss slightly.
    Edited by Furbs at 30/03/06 @ 16:38
  • CyberClaw #16 6 years ago

    Eheheh, half true. The FMVs are excelent selling points. A still of a FMV sells better than a still of a game for the uncultured public. But yes, they have many technical "waste", which I myself do not consider waste - but artistic detail.

    Modeling the breasts behind the clothes even they are not to be seen, putting the details in Bayman's dogtags, etc. it's just some of those things that show that they won't compromise their artistic integrity...

    There is some waste - there always is in every game. In DOA3, there was a unused Hitomi model (hitomi in a pink bikini with scuba gear and flippers), and there was a move-list for Tengu, despite Tengu not appearing in DOA3, among other stuff people discovered.

    But it's fascinating to see what techniques they used. For example, the reflections in the puddles of water, etc, used a secondary low poly low detail model (which was a replica of the costume you were using).
    And the breasts behind the clothes? That's just pure bonus. This way we could change the clothes as we saw fit (by chaning the alpha layer, and making certain parts of the texture invisible), and not worry about showing up holes under the clothes. For example, you could change Tina's short shirt, into a netshirt, and have her show her breasts (or a bra for example) behind the shirt. If the breasts weren't there, when you changed the shirt into a net shirt, it'd show a hole... One of my skins, had Jann Lee all battle damaged, with a couple of tattoos and scars, bandages all over the place, and his pants torn and ragged at the bottom... It wouldn't be possible if the legs weren't modeled bellow the pants.

    Keep in mind they didn't model everything bellow the clothes. They only modeled bellow most "free clothes" (in other words, clothes that reacted to phisics, like the shin part of large pants, the arms on large sleeves, etc).

    I'll see if I find some pictures of my skins and post here =)
  • Furbs #17 6 years ago

    Yeah I'd be interested in seeing them. I didnt mod my console until the Ninja Hacking thing was in full effect so it was impossible to find out any info.

    Are there any good forums back up and running now or is it still awkward?
  • CyberClaw #18 6 years ago

    I couldn't find any decent images, but I still have my skins in my HDD if anyone is interested. Anyway, just to proove I'm not bullshiting, I leave here a couple of very very old images I had on my webspace

    http://www.geocities.com/cyberclawx/mai.htm

    The Kasumi model was a "test" of a Mai skin, and this picture was basicly a color test (I was asking people if they wanted a bright red mai (like the 2d version of mai) which probably would feel out of place with the other characters, or a more "realistic" dark red mai, which wouldn't be as accurate, but more in the style of doa clothes and colors).

    To the right you can see a skin of Hayabusa which I made just for kicks. I covered his shoulders, added a mouth piece, and painted his hair white. That was my very first skining atempt ^_^ (I made some nice stuff later, specially tag team skins, and goth hitomi - but I don't have pictures of those)...
  • CyberClaw #19 6 years ago

    Furbs, I'm completly out of touch with the skinning comunity. I've become good friends with a coupe of skinners of old, but I don't think a new comunity has been built.

    If you want to try my skins, add me to MSN, and I'll dust off my XBox and take the skins from my HDD for you (they also include my personal favs, like Ein as Crow, Hitomi as a black haired, with red high-lights goth (Hitomi being my favorite char, that's definitly my fav skin), etc) my email is cyberclawx [at] hotmail [dot] com
  • Furbs #20 6 years ago

    Thanks, I'll have a look tonight :)
  • JaysonG #21 6 years ago

    He admitted that disk space had caused problems for the team when it came to Dead or Alive 4 - apparently they used all the available space up far too fast, and had to make lots of last minute adjustments.


    Blu-Ray FTW
  • yonno #22 6 years ago

    DOA Volleyball 2 on X360 £49.99

    REAL pornography £20-25

    whats the point???
  • Pirotic #23 6 years ago

  • Mr_Whacker #24 6 years ago

    Why can't I enjoy both? (not at the same time though - I'm only human)
  • Stickman #25 6 years ago

    Who'd have thought that computer nerds could take news of a game like DOA Volleyball 2: Now With Added Boobs, and turn it into some incredibly tedious discussion about disc size?

    Splendid work!
  • el_pollo_diablo #26 6 years ago

    Team Ninja boss Tomonobu Itagaki...

    needs to get outside once in a while and stop being such a pervy saddo.