Gears can rival Mario - Rein News

Getting a bit ahead of theirselves there, Gears is good but Mario is a Juggernaut

Great visuals and a solid effort. I'm looking forward to see what they have in store for us. :)

What about FIFA?
That's a long running series as well...
Why o why didn't he say that gears can rival FIFA?

Gears Of War: Road To Sera 2007

Ka-CHING...

Loving this game.

Although Mario has always been a system seller to me, do I have a need for bright primary colours? Must avoid more hardware spending.....

Loved Gears. Looking forward to the next one being a little bit longer in single player, though.

ha ha ha Mark Rein talks such utter shit.

Im a bit worried that Epic own the Gears IP and might go all PS3 on our ass. MS shouls splash the cash and buy epic now to stop that happening.

Even if Gears went mult-format, it would be a big blow to MS.

erm... i'm sorry but if Mario can see off Crash Bandicoot, Spyro, Sonic, running amock on the DS what chance does a game that fits under the same demograph as Halo gonna do.

edit:

oooh he's talking about lasting as long, that's going to be very difficult Final Fantasy, GTA, Metal Gear Solid, Mario, have been embedded into our brains for at least 15 - 20 years, and they're in completely different genre's as well.

Mark Rein is long known for giving his teams ideas more credit than they are actually worth.

Gears is an awesome game, but I can't see it taking on as many games as Mario, purely because it cant change its style, it'll always be a third-person shooter. Marios appeared in many different genres, hes an expandable character, I don't believe Fenix is.

"I don't see the Metal Gear Solid, Mario, Grand Theft Auto or Final Fantasy series (among others) stopping at three."

Wow, his foresight amazes me.

This guy is extremely optimistic. Only sales will determine how many there will be. So far is looking good but some 25 years down the line, who knows.

Im a bit worried that Epic own the Gears IP and might go all PS3 on our ass. MS shouls splash the cash and buy epic now to stop that happening.

Why are you worried?

If it's a great game, surely it's better that as many people as possible get to play it?

Fenix is the new Lara Croft... sort of.

Here we go, then!

Gears of Kart!
Gears of Soccer!
Gears of Tennis!
Gears of Golf!
Super Gears Bros!

Oh god. GoW 3 on 3 hoops here we come!

Yeah, right.

No.
Gears relies on a very specific context, world and storyline that isn't all that malleable. It won't be a crutch for a while, but eventually it'll go the way of Sonic.

Mario games always have their context and worldbuilding downplayed. There are no arcing storylines, there are hardly any storylines at all in each game outside of the RPG's. There are no story things that need axplaining, no characters that need developing and no histieres and secrets that need uncovering in mario games, in short, it's really just a surface aesthatic layer to give some visuals to the gameplay mechanics underneath which, let's face it, is the purpose of the medium.
All Mario does is branding Nintendo games to make them easily recognisable as to their authorship and make sure gamedesigners don't have to deal with the bullshit of story and character such but instead spend their time on the actual game.

edit:
Like Final Fantasy, that manages to last long because the only thing really tying that franchise together is the title. Each game itself, being RPG's they rely a lot on plot, takes place in a diffirent world with a diffirent plot though.
(Except for X-2, being the only direct sequel to X and hinting at being a prequel to VII).

"(see Unreal Tournament as well)"

I would argue UT hasn't been any cop since (the admittedly brilliant) original. After that they went a bit pap IMO.

Im a bit worried that Epic own the Gears IP and might go all PS3 on our ass. MS shouls splash the cash and buy epic now to stop that happening.

Why are you worried?

If it's a great game, surely it's better that as many people as possible get to play it?


Because I dont have a spare £400 knocking around, thats why. I agree it is better if more people can play it but not at the expense of me not being able to play it:)

Aww...when I first saw this title, it had me thinking along different lines entirely.

"GEARS OF WAR SPIN-OFFS ANNOUNCED

Marcus Fenix Golf and Marcus Fenix Power Tennis to be shipped Q1 2007, to be followed by Marcus Kart, Dr. Fenix, and Marcus Fenix's Brother's Mansion."

edit: DAMMIT!! Blerk beat me to the joke!!! :(
edit2: ...and then Steroyd followed me up! Damn. Clearly I'm not the comedy genius I assumed I was. :(

Plus if he REALLY wants to expand like mario MS is gonna need a handheld soon.

New Super Gears of War
Gears of War 720
Gears of War Wars
Gears of War Portable
Gears of War DDR
Super Gears of War Party

Fenix guest appearance in DOA 7
Fenix guest appearrance in EA's SSX trickstyle extreme

Because I dont have a spare £400 knocking around, thats why. I agree it is better if more people can play it but not at the expense of me not being able to play it:)

Ah, you mean if it becomes a PS3 exclusive, not a multiformat title. That makes sense - my apologies :)

Damn, someone got in with the "Party of Gears of Party" joke.

\grasps at straws

The Legend of Gears: Delta Squad Princess?

I woulndn't mind downloading some old michael jordan from the 80's. U hear that NBA? get on it! please.

PokeGears colliseum: gotta saw then all.

He's talking again... oh dear.

Mario, FF etc are around because they are indepedent games almost, which can handle majour changes to gameplay and what not, GoW would get boring 5 games in...

Im a bit worried that Epic own the Gears IP and might go all PS3 on our ass.

Microsoft published the game and Microsoft Game Studios logo is also splashed all over the box and the title screen. So presumably MS was deeply involved in the actual development of the product.

Even if Microsoft didn't own the IP, I'm sure the terms of the publishing deal would prevent the game appearing on another format without Microsofts permission. Hard to see it leaving a Microsoft platform then.

SO long as they improve the AI... maybe

lol

@Blerk

Even if Microsoft didn't own the IP, I'm sure the terms of the publishing deal would prevent the game appearing on another format without Microsofts permission. Hard to see it leaving a Microsoft platform then.

Sony published the GTA series (yes under SCEE) that didn't stop them breaking contract and going multiplat.

Mark Rein is an utter t***er. If you've ever had the distinct pleasure of meeting him in person, you'll know how to take his comments.

So what is it about Gears that could carry a franchise?
I thought it was being reported as a lovely looking but shallow 3rd person shooter?
What makes it "Gears of War", the characters, shallow as they are supposed to be?
The setting?
Hiding behind walls with a gun?

can you please use this headline when Gears of War is the Xmas #1:

Heh! You're kidding, right?

Sony published the GTA series (yes under SCEE) that didn't stop them breaking contract and going multiplat.

Breaking contract - you absolutely sure? So you've read the SCEE GTA contract then? Props to you! Surprising SCEE didn't sue for breach of contract then - would have had a cast-iron case! :P

As I recall, the terms of the exclusivity deal Rockstar had with Sony for GTA:SA was for exclusivity for 6 months. Which Rockstar honoured to the day. The very next day it was released on the Xbox. My memory might be wrong though .... :-)

Gears of War beach volleyball... In Bikinis

Ah "EuroSexMachine/Idiot" will want it banned, so maybe not a good idea... /Next!

Sony published the GTA series (yes under SCEE) that didn't stop them breaking contract and going multiplat.

No they didn't - the original top-down games were published by BMG and GTA3 and onwards were published by Take 2/Rockstar

EG should have an entire news section devoted to the likes of Mark Rein, American McGee and Peter Molyneux. Expect news like:

"Coke Zero's a bit shite - Rein"
"We should pull out of Afghanistan - Molyneux"
"Where are my socks? - McGee"
"Nintendo is for kids - all"

I thought EuroEunuchMachine only banned games that turn out [i]not[/i] to have kiddy abuse in them?
Can't you drop kick orphans in Gears?

Well Rockstar broke some contract with Sony because there was a big deal about it back in the day.

Steroyd - see my edited post above.

The christmas number 1 won't be Gears I think...
Think Zelda and maybe even Viva Pinata!

By the way, for the thrashers among you, Megadeth has the demo for 'Gears Of War' as a download from their official site...
That's the demo of the song, not the game...

I'd play gears american football! =) How about Marcus Kart?

To do that you need a good character. Snake, Mario, Crash (I can name lots of GTA and FF characters. I haven't a clue who is the main character in the Gear of War games. It doesn't help that I don't own a 360 though......!

Im a bit worried that Epic own the Gears IP and might go all PS3 on our ass. MS shouls splash the cash and buy epic now to stop that happening.

Ms = publisher. How many first party published games do you know that hopped to another platform where the publisher didn't consent to it? Bet that it's less than the fingers on your hand.

Besides, I don't know but doesn't MS technically own (a part of) the product? Their writers worked out the story and background (Eric Nylund and co). Even if they don't own the product, they probably have a first option on sequels and spin-offs. MS isn't stupid you know?

Even if sony somehow manages to get GoW for the ps3, epic would never shoot itself in the foot and make it ps3 exclusive.

"Even if Gears went mult-format, it would be a big blow to MS."

So what? Do you own MS shares or sth? Why would any gamer want MS or any other company dominate the game? Competition is all that drives them!

Chtulie makes a valid point, Gears has a very specific universe and storyline, it can only go as far as Tomb Raider or Halo. Or go episodic like HL2

Hmm producer says silly things...reminds of that producer of the Matrix Sequels...

They need either decent character or a decent story.

They basically have a Schwarzenegger movie in terms of both so anything more than a trilogy and I think they'll be seriously pushing it.

Actually I REALLY love the idea of Gears of War Extreme Beach Volleyball. The press would go nuts. lol

They'd have to have the bikinis and wobbly pecs though! =D

what an idiot...