KOEI brings PS3 titles to 360 Comments by Tom Bramwell

next gen is all about sharing

@ onyxbox

yep totally agree, this gen there will be a shortage of exclusives!

I think MS might just have the edge over Sony in terms of exclusives this time around!!

Woah there really aren't many PS3 exclusives left.

I suppose the big question is will MGS4 and DMC4 still be PS3 exclusives... hmm.

MGS4!
Come on Kojima!
I don't want to buy a PS3 just for your game!

What? You mean 1st party really is becoming more important. And to think, everyone flamed Sony for saying that before...

Wow PS3 loses two more apparenly exclusive games.
Maybe the pubs are getting a little tetchy about all the delays and the calamity that was the launch.

The first to hit 10 million, really is the milestone.

It's at that point the developers get big dollar/pound signs in there eyes.

MGS4?

Can you just imagine how many codec conversations he could fit on blu-ray.

Those cheesy dialogues were the most cringeworthy things my wife has ever heard on any console, made me embarassed to be playing!

MGS wil probably stay exclusive. I wouldn't be so sure about DMC though.

er... think tank... Dreamcast?

Lol 1st/2nd party rules.

But with MS's current situation in Japan wouldn't this hurt more than help KOEI?

Its small baby steps like this that builds momentum for a platform. We've seen it before: get more publishers/devs on board, get more breadth in games - thats what did it for both the PS1 and PS2.

I don't think Kojima is likely to go multi platform with MGS4. At least at launch anyway. But you never know I suppose - could be a case of:

"Hey Sony - I always liked you. Its nothing personal - but business is business, okay?"

DMC on the other hand could be a much more likely target for MS. Especially if the rumours of MS buying Capcom turn out to be true.

But then I remember the rumours of MS buying Sega ....
...and then rumours of MS buying Nintendo .... which Bill Gates had to deny LOL.

Both came to nothing.

both of Playstations bigest brands for the PS3, FF and MGS have appeared on a Xbox.

In terms of MGS4 and FF(13 is it?) its a matter of when not if.

Although its good that we could potentialy play all these great games on one console, i think they might loose some of their specialness.

- is completely aware specialness is not a word.

@ onyxbox: Video Gaming 2.0 ... I like it!

"MGS wil probably stay exclusive."

Kojima has already stated in interview that the 360 can easily handle MGS4. One wonders if he's looked into it...

Yeah and the same guy said the Xbox 360's GPU couldn't handle doing the octo camo.

Steroyd - why would this hurt KOEI inh Japan?

C'mon steroyd - you've been around these boards enough to know the DC - xbox comparison i so flawed.

Shuuned by EA
No marketing support
No money
Coming of the back of the saturn
Not enought western products
No decent sports franchises

As for MS's situation in japan, Capcom has proven that games market is considerably larger than just Japan.

Although i'm not sure how well these games are targeted at us westerners.

But with MS's current situation in Japan wouldn't this hurt more than help KOEI?

Why would they think as small as Japan? It's a tiny market compared to the other regions (wtf is japan marked as 'region' anyway?).

So that's why they were hiring for a PS3 WipeOut... they saw this coming.

So really, unless you're bothered about a gimmicky pad, low-end BR player, paying for every car in GT4 and the next MGS movie, there's fuck all reason to buy a PS3?

I've always thought Dynasty Warriors was more popular in Japan if that type of game is western Centric then fairy do.

Nevertheless the DC sold 10 million first and several million more than the PS2 at the time why did EA of all companies dodge Sega like the plague if that's where the money is at?

please rambaldi

Its like giving guns to the poor, it will only end in a mess

I know, it's almost like owning a whoopie cushion - it still makes me giggle :)

@ steroyd

I duno, prehaps some behind the scenes corporate hatred.

But lack of a big sports frachises killed DC, Every console that has ever been successfull has had big sports games.

I miss my DC.

Apparently EA did not support the Dreamcast because they were afraid of Sega's sports franchises - they were widely considered to be vastly superior to their EA counterparts (note American Sports franchises so the point the DC had no decent sports that us Europeans are interested in is still valid). Tis a crying shame because the DC was an awesome bit of kit and I don't think EA had anything to worry about. They've proven time and again they can sell any old shite even if there is a better product from a competitor.

MGS has been on all consoles the last generation...
And I seriously doubt that the 360 isn't capable of doing the octocam...What's so special about it anyway? It's a translucency effect of some sort...

The PS3 holds only MGS4 that I would like to play...
If I had a choice between the PS3 and 360 (I haven't got one) I would favour the 360...Just because it has more games that appeal to me...But I really really need MGS4!

And I admit the codec conversations can be quite the cheesefest... :)

Right now though as a developer it would make little sense to be PS3-exclusive. Very few units will be around in the US and Japan, and Europe won't even get to see the console till next year, and who knows how few units we'll get then. Why make a game exclusive to a platform with a small userbase? You want to sell as many copies of your game as you can, and you won't do that on the PS3 (not for a good while).

It'll be interesting to see what things will be like a year from now, or two years. The PS3 will be out properly then and more developers might be inclined to stick with them. But it'll be nice to see Sony eat some humble pie in the meantime.

@ steroyd - I'm not sure if Dreamcast reach 10 million before the PS2 did. The total number of sales of the DC was 10.6 million but I'm sure that at this stage PS2 sales had far surpassed that. And, I might add, the DC/ XBox360 comparison is absolutely laughable.

Hang on, is Steroyd saying the 360 can't handle OctoCamo from MGS4 and that it's comparable to the DC?

Did I miss something or has he just lost it? Will someone sit that boy down with a 360, a HDTV and a copy of GOW please?

/is baffled

Sony shipped 6.41 million by the end of 2000 and Sega officially stopped the Dreamcast January of 2001 (japan only).

Sony's Shipment figures

So if Sony killed the dreamcast it was in Japan alone.

It's interesting on how Sony have shipped double the units to Europe and the US than Japan.
And i'm talking about the Situation that MS and the Dreamcast were in they even have the same swirly logo and the same PR guy Peter Moore. lol.

Dreamcast 2.0

Don't worry they have a 10 reasons why it will succeed as well. ;)

So is it reasonable to say that PS3 is dead already or what's this parade about?

Ahh bring the gaming back to PC. The consoles are all bs anyway :)

This and Sony declining to have GTA exclusivity, is that part of a plan I don't get? It's good to have exclusives on the own platform because that will convince people to buy it and developers to specifically target your platform in order to make a better game instead the lowest common denominator across all platforms?

Sony is not stupid, so what's up?

"Sony is not stupid, so what's up? "

Two things, first Sony have serious financial issues so expensive exclusivity deals aren't an option, and second they really do see the PS3 as more than a games machine. For Sony it's a way to lock consumers into buying Sony music and films from the Sony online shop, cutting out the middleman and eliminating pesky piracy on the way.

Yeah, you're all right. The PS3 is dead.
Can we move to the next subject now?

For me this sounds like Sony is really losing people except real PS3 fans. Someone who cares about the games mostly doesn't care if they get to play the game on a 360 or a PS3. And most of them probably already own a 360 anyway. So why would this people bother to shell out a lot of money for a PS3?

Personally the only appealing thing about the PS3 is the games. And bluray for a few people. But the 360 does everything the PS3 does and with more and more so called exclusives also coming to 360 what is there left that makes one want a PS3?

I guess the most positive thing is that Fatal Inertia was never going to be a system seller in the first place (from what I read) and Bladestorm? I never even heard of this title.

Share the love baby, mmmmmmm.

Bladestorm looks like Dynasty Warriors under a different name... hence why i asked wouldn't it cripple KOEI financially in Japan.

unless that type of game has significant western appeal... someone please tell me. :'(

Steroyd - but they're coming out on PS3 and 360 dude!

I guess its KOEI trying top spread its income as far as possible.

American Technology Research's P.J. McNealy, in a note to investors, said there were just 125,000 to 175,000 PS3s in stores for the system's launch. That's roughly half of his initial expectations. Colin Sebastian of Lazard Capital Markets estimated the number at around 150,000.

Might be off topic, but interesting nonetheless.
From the cnnmoney site.

Bar a few exculsive titles I'm struggling to find a reason to buy a PS3. This may be the first generation in years that i've not owned all the main home consoles.

Bah!!

look harder.

@JediMasterMalik - Thing is though, waht in house titles do Sony have that are really worth a damn?

Sure they have some solid games, God of War is excellent. But no system sellers that I can think of. Im not really a huge fan of either Zelda or Halo but those two games will sell systems for MS and Nintendo

I does seam as if sony is lacking its Zelda or Halo. God of War, maybe

Three titles have pulled up stakes and moved to the
Xbox 360 (as cross-platform). Read on for more...

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It's said that the rats are the first to abandon a sinking ship. While not rats, publishers are beginning to abandon the PS3 after its less-than-impressive launch and news of production woes. Three titles have pulled up stakes and moved to the Xbox 360 (as cross-platform).

Koei, long time PlayStation supporter (and company frequently billed as key support to win the generation) has pulled Fatal Inertia and Blade Storm: The Hundred Years' War from the PS3 exclusive list and plopped them squarely into the Xbox 360 camp. Another PlayStation staple, the Armored Core series, is also coming to the white box in the form of Armored Core 4.

Sony is going to be in for a difficult battle if key players keep moving over party lines; Microsoft is doing far better coaxing exclusive content over to the 360. If Sony continues to lose its differentiation, why should gamers continue to shell out up to $200 more just to play the same games? Enjoy this machine translation for those who can't read Japanese.

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http://www.joystiq.com/2006/11/22/ps3-lo...

Fatal Inertia providing Fatal Inertia? Surely that should have been the title! lol

So what are the Sony exclusives now? MGS, GT and that sword game with the women with red hair. Those are really the only titles I know about coming for the PS3 at some stage that are not due to be on the 360. So we have some tied sequels and an unproven title that may turn out to be a Daikatana

I am sure there are more exclusives though so if I were Sony I would start trying to get more info into the press on the exclusives they do still have.

"Sony shipped 6.41 million by the end of 2000 and Sega officially stopped the Dreamcast January of 2001 (japan only). "

Sega announced that they were pulling out of the hardware industry in Jan 2001. They continued to manufacture the DC until the end of March that year. Units were still on sale Christmas 2001 (remember the value pack with TF3, MSR and JSR). So, unless you can show me monthly sales figures I'm pretty sure that the PS2 got to 10 million before the DC (not that it's a big deal or anything:)).

Well... If they see that Sony has problems and they need so less time to convert the games for xbox 360 so much easier then yeah. More and more titles will be more likely exclusive for xbox than PS. I think it's that simple.

But.... but.... only Cell could handle TEH aw3s0me physics of Fatial Inertia....???

@ Steroyd

The Dreamcast 2.0 thing, I loved the Crazy rich bald guy one.