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23 August, 2006

Speaking at the Leipzig GCDC, Lionhead's Peter Molyneux has warned that motion-sensing controllers such as the Wii remote could leave gamers exhausted unless developers think creatively.

Molyneux's speech, titled 'Combat - Time to Evolve?', focused on the problems with traditional combat games, and suggestions for how to improve them - such as getting rid of hit points, allowing for one-hit kills, and letting characters use items in the environment around them.

When asked by an audience member how he thought these ideas might work with the Wii remote, Molyneux replied: "If you wanted to make a big difference, where's the best place to make that difference? I think the controller is definitely it. There's no doubt in my mind that controllers are changing, and they're changing really fast."

However, Molyneux continued, "I've realised I'm an incredibly lazy person when I play games, and actually slouching back on the sofa, playing on my beer belly, is my most comfortable position. When I have to get up, it's painful. I make noises and start grunting."

When Molyneux first realised that players might be able to swing a motion-sensing controller just like they would a sword, he thought the concept was "brilliant! But then I realised, when I looked at myself in the mirror, I actually looked really stupid.

"And if I do that," Molyneux continued, waving an imaginary sword in a much less expansive way, "Even with nothing in my hand, I get tired very, very quickly."

"It became a real problem. I think motion-sensitivity is very, very useful, but I think the obvious way of doing it - unless you're dealing with a 15 to 20 minute experience at most of actually being hugely physical - is not where the opportunity lies here," Molyneux continued.

"I think it's a more creative medium. It's not turning a controller into a sword... You cannot do it for 20 hours."

Molyneux went on to recount how "one of the hardware manufacturers" approached Lionhead during the development of Black & White with a glove-shaped peripheral that could sense the movement of the users' fingers.

Lionhead decided to see how it worked with the game, and one tester was giving the task of trying it out for a month. According to Molyneux, the tester became "greyer and more pale" with every day that went by.

"It was like some sort of Japanese torture that we'd put him through, and it took three months after that to actually get his hand back to normal use," Molyneux added.

But that doesn't mean he sees no place for motion-sensing technology in gaming - simply that he believes developers must think creatively when working out "How we are going to change games - it's not the obvious solution, it's clearly more subtle.

"I think the DS proves that. What I've found really fascinating is not using [the DS stylus] to scribble with, but using it in a very clever, innovational way," Molyneux concluded.

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KillahSouljah
23/08/06 @ 14:00
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PLAYSTATION 3

FUTURE PROOF NEXT-GEN SYSTEM
PLAYSTATION 3
- Blu-ray Disc Player (built-in)
- 60GB HDD (built-in)
- HDMI connector (built-in)
- Wi-Fi enabled (built-in)
- Wireless Analog Gyroscope Controller (included)

LAST-GEN CATCHING UP TO BE A NEXT-GEN SYSTEM
XBOX 360
- HD-DVD Player (add-on)
- 40GB HDD (add-on)
- HDMI connector (add-on)
- Wi-Fi Network Adaptor (add-on)
- Wireless Gyroscope Controller (extra)
Jesus: Action Figure
23/08/06 @ 14:03
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Oh dear KS, Oh dear...
Blerk
23/08/06 @ 14:03
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Oh, do shut up.
Eighthours
23/08/06 @ 14:03
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That's the second comments thread you've put that in, you idiotic fanboy twat.
LOLLERS
23/08/06 @ 14:03
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shut your noise hole
Dexter
23/08/06 @ 14:05
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Laziest troll evar.
nick303
23/08/06 @ 14:10
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Yeah, no homework what so ever. Everybody knows the 360 HDD is 20GB, not 40GB ;)
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Xephon70
23/08/06 @ 14:13
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Hmmm. If Sony were offering all of those add-ons wouldn't the very same people crying "fanboy" be calling them rip off merchants, for charging for extras? But it's ok, big ole cuddly Microsoft are doing it, so that's alright then.

They're as bad as each other, they all want the money from your pocket. Sony did it with the PlayStation 2 (memory cards, multitaps, etc), and MS have learnt the lesson...build nothing in when you can charge extra for it!
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smelly
23/08/06 @ 14:13
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Erm.. IF yer gonna troll at least get your facts right.

For example:
The lower priced ps3 doesnt even HAVE wifi, even as an addon :-)
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Jesus: Action Figure
23/08/06 @ 14:13
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Anyway, back on track, when does the 360 home Dev Kit thingy become available?
Eighthours
23/08/06 @ 14:14
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Hmmm. If Sony were offering all of those add-ons wouldn't the very same people crying "fanboy" be calling them rip off merchants, for charging for extras? But it's ok, big ole cuddly Microsoft are doing it, so that's alright then.

Another one. Oh great.
Xephon70
23/08/06 @ 14:16
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Another one my arse. The last time I was a fanboy, SEGA broke my heart. So I've all the consoles, it makes life a little less fanboyish, so don't be jumping to conclusions.
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Netfreak
23/08/06 @ 14:18
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PLAYSTATION 3

FUTURE PROOF NEXT-GEN SYSTEM
PLAYSTATION 3
- Blu-ray Disc Player (built-in)
- 60GB HDD (built-in)
- HDMI connector (built-in)
- Wi-Fi enabled (built-in)
- Wireless Analog Gyroscope Controller (included)

LAST-GEN CATCHING UP TO BE A NEXT-GEN SYSTEM
XBOX 360
- HD-DVD Player (add-on)
- 40GB HDD (add-on)
- HDMI connector (add-on)
- Wi-Fi Network Adaptor (add-on)
- Wireless Gyroscope Controller (extra)
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dumbest.post.ever
KillahSouljah
23/08/06 @ 14:19
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mwahahaha dont cry xbox fangirls, its just words.
sheepsteak
23/08/06 @ 14:23
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FUTURE PROOF NEXT-GEN SYSTEM
PLAYSTATION 3
- Blu-ray Disc Player (built-in)
- 60GB HDD (built-in)
- HDMI connector (built-in)
- Wi-Fi enabled (built-in)
- Wireless Analog Gyroscope Controller (included)
+ REAL-TIME WEAPON CHANGE
+ HISTORICAL JAPANESE CRABS THAT CAN BE TURNED OVER FOR MASSIVE DAMAGE
+ RIIIIIIIDDDDDGEEEEEE RAAAAAACCCCCCEEEEERRRRRRRR

ONLY $599!!!!!!!!11111ONEONEONE

This fanboy stuff is pretty easy...
KillahSouljah
23/08/06 @ 14:23
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you all know its true, you just cant accept it

FUTURE PROOF NEXT-GEN SYSTEM
PLAYSTATION 3
- Blu-ray Disc Player (built-in)
- 60GB HDD (built-in)
- HDMI connector (built-in)
- Wi-Fi enabled (built-in)
- Wireless Analog Gyroscope Controller (included)
= £425

LAST-GEN CATCHING UP TO BE A NEXT-GEN SYSTEM
XBOX 360
= £300 +
- HD-DVD Player (add-on)
- 40GB HDD (add-on)
- HDMI connector (add-on)
- Wi-Fi Network Adaptor (add-on)
- Wireless Gyroscope Controller (extra)
= way over £425

Whos getting value for money?...
SentientNr6
23/08/06 @ 14:25
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Thank God for the ignore button
The_Programmer
23/08/06 @ 14:26
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Well KS. At least us Xbox360 owners can play games on our console now while you will just have to put up with playing with yourself for a few months.
Netfreak
23/08/06 @ 14:27
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FUTURE PROOF NEXT-GEN SYSTEM
PLAYSTATION 3

- Blu-ray Disc Player (built-in) - destine to be a failed format. UMD anyone?
- 60GB HDD (built-in) - too little.
- HDMI connector (built-in) - bullshit. Nobody use that.
- Wi-Fi enabled (built-in) - nobody cares, and cable beats Wifi
- Wireless Analog Gyroscope Controller (included) - MS had this controller 6 years ago.

= £425 - expen$ive and not worth it.
sheepsteak
23/08/06 @ 14:27
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Yes, I can play Oblivion with my Wireless Gyroscope Controller I paid extra for. Lovin' it.
KillahSouljah
23/08/06 @ 14:29
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hahaha how can all you call me a fanboy when this site is crawling with Xbox Fangirls.

The pot calls the kettle black...

oh by the way good Microsoft Conference. what a joke.

Why copy the EyeToy.
Kikimaru
23/08/06 @ 14:29
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Seriously though -- £50 (or whatever the € equivalent is) for the *ADAPTOR*??
FFS, this should have been a £15 MAX USB dongle!

But the d-pad on the 360 pad sucks for fighters anyway, so I don't care.
smelly
23/08/06 @ 14:30
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I've ignored him, he's not still going is he?

OKAY : KS:

360
- Pro Evo (Available)
- Fifa (Availble)

PS3
- No wifi on cheap one, so it's extra
- and it doesnt have fifa/pro evo either.

So ya boo sucks.

PS : dont bother replying to me, as i've already ignored you so wont be able to see reply.

KillahSouljah
23/08/06 @ 14:34
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Freak said: "- Blu-ray Disc Player (built-in) - destine to be a failed format. UMD anyone? "

I say: 'XBOX 360 - destune to fail, XBOX anyone.'

To honest 360 is going against PlayStation 2 not PLAYSTATION 3.

Once PLAYSTATION 3's released thats when everyone's going to see next-gen games and performance.

No one in England knows or even want a 360 apart from the spotty geeks, we're all waiting for PLAYSTATION 3.
Xerx3s
23/08/06 @ 14:35
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FFS ppl! Stop quoting such tossers! It makes an ignore list pointless.
Netfreak
23/08/06 @ 14:37
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hahaha how can all you call me a fanboy when this site is crawling with Xbox Fangirls.


Because you're the resident idiot.


The pot calls the kettle black...


You sure are right describing about yourself.


oh by the way good Microsoft Conference.


Was good right? Yeah we know you paid attention.


Why copy the EyeToy.


EyeToy copied MS. Don't believe? Look at PS3 "tilt" copying MS tilt sidewinder.

KillahSouljah
23/08/06 @ 14:39
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smelly bum said:

I've ignored him, he's not still going is he?

OKAY : KS:

360
- Pro Evo (Available)
- Fifa (Availble)

PS3
- No wifi on cheap one, so it's extra
- and it doesnt have fifa/pro evo either.

So ya boo sucks.

PS : dont bother replying to me, as i've already ignored you so wont be able to see reply.

I say:

I've ignored him, he's not still going is he?

OKAY : Smelly Fanny:

360
- No Wifi on cheap 360
- No Wifi on dear 360

PS3
- We're getting all without no stupid add-ons.
- Oh yeh Metal Gear Solid 4

Smelly Bum sucks.

Money Hungry Mircrosoft,.
Gremmi
23/08/06 @ 14:42
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The Eyetoy copied Logitech webcam software from 1997.
JonFE
23/08/06 @ 14:42
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Isn't the 49.99 the price tag for the XBox Live Vision (the camera) and not the wireless kit? Otherwise why mentioned along the 89.99 euro pricetag (the one with a 12 month Gold pack)?
KillahSouljah
23/08/06 @ 14:42
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Who the hell even heard or used the crappy Sidewinder.


So you amit Microsoft is copying the Mighty Sony.
askew
23/08/06 @ 14:42
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What's the quality of the MS headset like? Might just replace my Sennheisers if the word on the street's good enough...
sheepsteak
23/08/06 @ 14:44
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I think the Xbox Live Vision comes with a free game too for €49.99
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23/08/06 @ 14:44
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The Eyetoy was a Logitech camera.

I think Logitech was fine with Sony buying the stuff :)
JonFE
23/08/06 @ 14:47
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Thanks sheepsteak; it's a bit confusing on the live feed. 49.99 euro for the wireless kit sound a bit steep though.
sheepsteak
23/08/06 @ 14:49
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Gameplay have it up for pre-order.
Dexter
23/08/06 @ 14:53
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Is KillahSouljah a new sock or a regular comments troll? I should visit the article comments more often! :D
sheepsteak
23/08/06 @ 14:56
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Not sure but it's been fun.
Netfreak
23/08/06 @ 14:57
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Is KillahSouljah a new sock or a regular comments troll?


He was also the resident idiot at playstation.com forums.
Zero Beat
23/08/06 @ 15:01
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50Euros for the receiver must be wrong. Gamespot have it down for $20 which is less than 16Euros.
holloguts
23/08/06 @ 15:07
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The PS3 will be a decent console (struggling - purely because of price, but decent).

But this ignored sidewinder that no-one supposedly bothered with may haunt Sony. I can't see how Sony can create a similar pad without breaching some patent. I know Microsoft has not commented much on it, but that's probably because Sony have not yet released it.

Will be interesting to see if Microsoft get an order preventing Sony from making any further motion pads, and claiming compensation for each one already released due to patent rights.

Could mess Sony up big time. Just depends on that technology and the patents Microsoft hold.

cyacomini
23/08/06 @ 15:08
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KillahSouljah

just FUCK off - Please.

Go back home, here..

http://boardsus.playstation.com/playstat...
chupachups
23/08/06 @ 15:09
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KillahSouljah, I'm extremely glad they're all add-ons on the 360 because I don't have a HDTV so Blu-ray, HD-DVD and HDMI would be a total waste of money. Microsoft give us the option of not buying them, but Sony forces them down our throats whether we want them or not.

Most people won't have HDTV for the lifetime of the PS3 (the next five years despite Sony's lies), so compulsory Blu-ray and HDMI is just daft.

To top it all off, by the time most people DO have HDTV, the price of a Blu-ray or HD-DVD player will probably be about $100, not $600.
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The12thMonkey
23/08/06 @ 15:09
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I thought we had a better standard of troll in these parts? Dear, oh dear.

And yes, the good side to the upgardeable system is clear. Means we aren't sold technology we don't want/need as standard. Downside? Means Microsoft can milk the price a fair bit. Still, like chupachups said, I don't have an HD TV, so HDMI and Blu Ray is utterly worthless to me.
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smelly
23/08/06 @ 15:15
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WHY ARE PEOPLE EVEN RESPONDING TO THE TIT? STOPPIT..

Yer making me pressing ignore pointless.
KillahSouljah
23/08/06 @ 15:25
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why you all clicking ignore, is it because you cant face the truth. bloody vassy holes...
thinktank
23/08/06 @ 15:28
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/opens thread

/see's fanboys squabling

/leaves
Shroom420
23/08/06 @ 15:36
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I'm a PC gamer myself and dont see much point in buying consoles i love pro evo and GTA have them on pc (GTA:SA online is awsome). The next gen console have really caught my eye this year.
Personally i am getting a Wii asap but i am going to agree with Killah, not all the facts he puts across but PS3 is going to be a better console in my opinion. I wouldn't say killah is a fanboy (maybe biased) but all of the people calling him a fanboy don't seem to be saying that the 360 is better just saying he is a fanboy everyone is entitled to there opinion.
The 360 is jerky and the graphics arent "next gen" on any of the games i have played. 360 has the advantage of being out now and will be able to drop prices more for when the PS3 is out, also fair play for landing fifa and pro evo they have massive fan bases. Assasins Creed is going to be the game to look out for on the PS3 but i still doubt it will pull me to buy one.
JonFE
23/08/06 @ 15:39
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Is there going to be a Sony conference today ?
Netfreak
23/08/06 @ 15:47
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I wouldn't say killah is a fanboy (maybe biased) but all of the people calling him a fanboy don't seem to be saying that the 360 is better just saying he is a fanboy everyone is entitled to there opinion.

We all can accept different opinion unfortunately Killah is an idiot.
Shroom420
23/08/06 @ 16:02
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i'm not saying he isn't an idiot i don't know the guy but i had to pop on and say what i think. If he has been pissing you all off then fair enough hes an idiot but i only saw his first post and everyone jump on him.

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