Import PSP owners 'absolutely not' a target for Sony News

"we're absolutely not going after consumers - that's not our objective at all."

yeah, cause you wouldn't have a leg to stand on, it'll be a PR nightmare, and it'll make you look like a bunch of cunts... Which you are anyway by pursuing this stuipid notion that we should wait until YOU feel like releasing this into Europe and double the price...

AS IF YOU COULD EVER GO AFTER THE CONSUMERS!

Double yew tee efff thats ridiculous. Its like saying 'We definately wont be eating the moon'.

Bah! Djini says all the sensible things. I might get a swasticker and append it to the end of the Sony logo.

But why would they need the exact names and addresses of everyone who's imported? That excuse just doesn't make any sense - surely simple sales data would establish the level of damages?

Is this like the way I don't hate my boss? I like him when he pays my salary but I don't invite him down the pub...

Djini said everything that needs to be said they are pretencious muppets plain and simple

they already look like a bunch of cunt and this would make them look like the FIA..

perhaps as an act of good will they should start releasing the games over here so that the existing user base can pay £10 more for each game.

*cough*Nazis*cough*

The moral of this story wil be...

Don't bite the hand that feeds you?!

And the bad press just keeps on coming, i'm scooting to new york in august, will probably buy a few PSPs while I'm there, damn my evil importing hide straight to hell!

The piss poor treatment by this lot is one of the main reasons why I wont be buying one of these things.

"main reasons why I wont be buying one of these things. "

And not because you've played all the games before on a tv? and they're not really suited to handheld?

Sony hardcore fanboys gets the bastard child treatment. heh!

Wait a sec...haven't Sony said they're NOT chasing after the consumer? Why all the negativity?

"*cough*Nazis*cough*"

That's a bit harsh, I mean, Sony hasn't tried to wipe out an entire race of people, has it?

Not yet, anyway.

"The situation with PSP importing is completely different, however, and Sony acknowledges that it's unlikely that it would have any legal avenue to pursue individual consumers even if it actually wished to do so."

in other words:

"if we could we would hunt the bastards down who are so impatient as to import a PSP. Who do they think they are as to be so bold as to import for a cheaper price than what we will launch at"

but anyway they are after the consumer in one way or another by trying to take away the opportunity to import. Damn their eyes

well thank you

Consumers may not be a direct target, but the control of distribution (which is what they are after) certainly hurts out back pockets (and freedom of choice). Sony, you've lost my business you excessively greedy turds.

"Absolutely not...." LOL! You can see them saying this whilst scratching their chins an avoiding eye contact....

Wait a sec...haven't Sony said they're NOT chasing after the consumer? Why all the negativity?

It seems that Sony bashing is in amongst the youngsters.

Tomorrow's article: Sony to release the PSP in Europe for 10 €.
Mongtard comments: FUCK YOU $ONY, YOU GR€€DY EVILDOERS!

> Wait a sec...haven't Sony said they're NOT chasing after the consumer? Why all the negativity?

Because they ARE going after the consumers. Stopping people from buying an import PSP. Surely the consumers can decide themselves what they buy and from whom (as long as the loot is legal).

I have revised my stance on this by 180 degrees.
SONY: Please go after those poor blokes that have choosen to buy your PSP.
Dear people of Europe: DO NOT BUY this console. Buy the Nintendo DS instead!
'nuff said. I am moving on...

Phew... now that's a relief. I can rest easy tonight knowing Sony hasn't rustled up a posse to cleanse me of my wrongdoings.

Had they done a witch hunt and successfully tracked me down, in words of Charlton Heston in 'Bowling for Columbine'... "From my cold dead hands!"

Sony, stop being flids. Or you'll be getting a turd in a jiffy bag from me.

EDIT: I aer teh thicko

asphalt - read the whole article again.

"(as long as the loot is legal)"

But that's the point isn't it.

Whether you like it or not, they are going through the courts to stop what they see as an illegal trade.

If it's not illegal then they'll not succeed, but as it is stock from outside the EU, I suspect they will win.

one PR distaster after the next for Sony

I'm looking forward to the watchdog episode after launch where they talk about the dead pixels...

After Sony being total assholes about Europe I bought a DS. Nice bright screens, do GAME turn off the backlight in stores? I was surprised when I turned mine on... a Nintendo handheld where you can actually SEE the game and also, not a dead/stuck pixel in sight! ZOMG!!!11! I wouldn't buy a PSP (imported or not) now after wanting one because it's still money going to smug bastards. I hope importers still get to piss Sony off and ruin the European launch, it looks like they already have as GAME and HMV seems desperate for preorders, giving up shelf space just for boxes asking for a deposit of £20. Looks like the hardcore gamers, the majority of early adopters of new hardware, are all importing.

I dont think you will find anymore PSPs on Ebay, after . I feel sorry for all of those companies, individuals who have a lot of stock of Sony PSPs (TM).

more pr hype! sony really do know how to do hype... how the hell are sony going to know if i imported a psp!!

"selling import PSP devices"

does this include games? will they stop me from importing us & jap games?

"how the hell are sony going to know if i imported a psp!!"

Part of their court case against the importers is to obtain a list of people who purchased from them. That's how they'll know if you imported a PSP. Quite why they need this information I don't know; I don't believe this stuff about estimating damages or whatever.

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In Corporate Europe, PSP owns YOU!

"Part of their court case against the importers is to obtain a list of people who purchased from them. That's how they'll know if you imported a PSP. Quite why they need this information I don't know; I don't believe this stuff about estimating damages or whatever. "

And what if i didnt import the console from any of the so called "importers"

How about if i went direct to sony and bought one and then traveled across the sea!

Does this mean that every games magazine, online and paper based, every newspaper is going to be sued? Does this mean the death of Eurogamer, and everyone else connected with videogames?!

"Because they ARE going after the consumers. Stopping people from buying an import PSP. Surely the consumers can decide themselves what they buy and from whom (as long as the loot is legal)."

You're looking at it from the wrong angle. Sony are trying to prevent the online stores from importing PSPs into Europe, they're not going to arrest anyone who imports a PSP or anything.

Don't get me wrong, I hope Sony fail and I've decided to boycott the UK PSP because of their stinky attitude, but I think people are over-reacting a little with all this Nazi stuff.

I think people are making mountains out of molehills on this one.

Relatively few people have imported PSP hardware.

The industry has always frowned upon the import practice. Sony has just been the one to take a few of the importers to court, as other such companies have done in the past.

Statute dictates that they are given all information purtaining to the import. Which includes the name of the recipient.

No company is ever going to impound something a member of the public has bought. It's impossible to achieve. They wouldn't even involve a member of the public, if it can be avoided.

They probably want your name and address to send you junk mail about *official* European releases.

Or perhaps you end up on a tech support blacklist...

I'd guess they're more likely to want the addresses for marketing than anything else.

If I had a PSP imported - I would say 'come and try'.

I think Sony feels that the reaction to their "pr releases" has been 'absolutely not' positive.

Sadly, Sony (at least here in the UK) has proven repeatedly that its customers are the last thing on its mind. I remember, about five years ago, buying a Vaio computer with a Memory Stick slot and a Memory Stick music player, reasoning that I'd be able to record music to the stick on my PC and then transfer it to the player (obviating the need to connect the player to the PC with cables). The drone in the Sony Store thought the same thing, but no. Sony PC Memory Stick slots didn't support the fascistic OpenMG DRM technology Sony was using on its players. My call to Sony to enquire as to their plans for supporting their own technology on their own products was met with "you have obviously confused us with someone who cares" indifference.

Recent attempts by Sony to hobble CDs with ridiculous copy protection technologies that not only impede fair use of the products but also make them unplayable on a wide range of machines again demonstrates that Sony comes first, customers a very distant second.

This doesn't even begin to touch on the hypocracy of a company that has one division making devices to rip and burn music, while another (Sony Music) sues the arses off people who have the cheek to actually do so.

I'm not really surprised that Sony have made such a mess of the PSP issue. The chief motivations for the company are fear and paranoia. Their immediate reaction to any non-approved uses of their products is "kill it, quick!" The idea that technology companies and their customers are actually a mutually reinforcing ecosystem (a la iPod) has yet to penetrate Sony's collective brain. To them, we are merely cattle to be kept docile and compliant until the next milking.

Regarding the PSP, Sony must be fuming that they've lost control of their distribution channel in the UK. There they were, all ready to nail us with the usual 100% mark up that we Brits pay for everything, when some buggers begin importing the damn thing. Looks like Sony hasn't heard of globalisation or ecommerce either. Poor loves, they must be really confused by the modern world.

so, what if I imported more than one? how about if I got 6 for me and all my mates and I got them from liksang? where do you draw the line $ony?

"$ony"

"You're looking at it from the wrong angle."

A different angle, not the wrong angle.

"Sony are trying to prevent the online stores from importing PSPs into Europe, they're not going to arrest anyone who imports a PSP or anything."

That's quite clear. Sony are saying "like us because we are not going to take you court", we're (well some of us are) saying "no way. You're trying to stop us doing something we want to and should be allowed to do. Furthermore, the reason you're doing it is to shaft us out of more money.".

"I've decided to boycott the UK PSP because of their stinky attitude,"

Good move. The best way to change Sony's attitude is to stop buying their stuff (and let them know about it).

Ryujin makes a good point.

Sony are not a nice company. Unfortunately, they are highly successful, and likely always will be, because they have The Image thanks to the PS brand. PSP may not be a triumph over DS or even GBA in the long-run (this is what happens when you challenge Nintendo without a back-way in), but it will sell well enough, and maintain The Image.

Hence Sony will always have support, certainly from their homeland dev studios if not anywhere else (which is unlikely). This means I will always at some level want to buy their stuff, as I love Squenix, Capcom and Namco too damn much.

However, I've lasted this long, and my Sony hatred shall survive!

"I think people are making mountains out of molehills on this one.
Relatively few people have imported PSP hardware."

Then wouldn't that be Sony making the mountain out of a molehill? In any case, this isn't about the number of people importing, it's about our right to import. If I can buy a book from Amazon in the US (as I should be able to do), why shouldn't I be able to buy a PSP.

"The industry has always frowned upon the import practice."

They frown on anything that impedes profits. Doesn't make it wrong.

"Sony has just been the one to take a few of the importers to court,"

Only the importers who have the balls/resources to stand up to Sony's bullying tactics. So we're displaying our appreciation for Sony's benevolence in not taking us to court. What a thoroughly nice buch of arseholes.

Some of you guys need to chill a bit, get a little perspective and some fresh air. I'm not saying Sony are right (because I believe what they are doing is wrong) but being offensive and getting yourselves this worked up over something like this is a little over the top.

"why shouldn't I be able to buy a PSP"

'Cos the law says so. Don't make it right but Sony are just doing what they are allowed to do.

The level of imports in the case of the PSP is unprecedented. I'd say it's gone past the hardcore gamer to the general consumer. When Which? magazine (a uk front for the consumers association) recommended that you import a PSP from Liksang rather than waiting for the official release it must have sent Sony ape shit.

The problem has however been completely caused by Sony. They started marketing the PSP to the mass market at Christmas (in various lads mags) and so they've completely shot themselves in the foot.

Any legal challenges now are too little too late, and as people have said, will do Sony's image no good at all.

I got my PSP from Play-Asia... I wonder how they're going to go after them :-)

And I got my US PS2 from the PLAYSTATION SHOP in San Francisco :-)

Those naughty people in the official Sony shop selling me something which I even told them I was exporting!

In other news, Sony changed their mind about going after import consumers but found their efforts to reclaim hardware thwarted when the tried and tested "Go F**k Yourself!" stratagem was used against their collectors.