Blue Dragon sequel planned News

Fingers crossed the Japanese feel the love and actually buy this game.

With Dragon Quest I didn't mind the DBZness but everything about this game seems DBZ-ish from characters to music to special moves.

The game has garnered decent interest in Japan.

'We have free downloadable content planned for this game that isnt out yet'.

...... what ? How lame that you *must* have the online service to get the full retail content.

@bdc
So if they charge you for content you moan, if they give it to you for free you STILL moan.

The first game is now finished, he revealed, and will ship on three DVDs - uncompressed, it actually takes up a whopping 30GB of disk space.

maybe now all the BlueRay bashing will stop. sony's claims that more than a single DVDs space is needed for some games has now been proven, and by a microsoft published game.

we all know this isn't sony's only reason for pushing BlueRay, but it seems to be a valid one.

I would rather have a game over 3 DVD's than pay over the odds for Bluray, if anything Microsoft shows DVD is fine by being able to use multiple DVD's instead of some expensive technology thats not needed.

@Myiagros
unless you dont want to pay 500/600$ and dont mind changing the dvd

I would rather have a game over 3 DVD's than pay over the odds for Bluray, if anything Microsoft shows DVD is fine by being able to use multiple DVD's instead of some expensive technology thats not needed.

perhaps you are right, but maybe going by this theroy we should be demanding that Hi-Def movies ship on multiple DVDs also (just a thought)

Edit: also maybe we should just ask for the game to ship on 30 odd CD's so we don't have to pay for the newfangled DVD thingys ;-)

Let's not forget it's uncompressed. UNCOMPRESSED.

Plus, it does say uncompressed, so compressed it would be noticeably less.

@Myiagros

DVd's are as cheap as CD's

I have no problem at all with changing a disc once in a while.
The multiple discs of FFVII were a selling feature not a hinderance.

Changing discs a selling feature? Are you joking? Crazy people...

Cast your mind back to the release of FFVII and YES the multi disc was a selling feature. Also Panzer Dragoon Saga and even Resi 2!
If you think people are crazy maybe they are.

I don't get it... 30 gb uncompressed but they needed to put it on 3 dvds (27gb of space)? That doesn't make any sense at all.

"Plus, it does say uncompressed, so compressed it would be noticeably less."

Yeah, 30gb uncompressed and 3 dvds compressed ( 15 gb? )

Ok, so that's the first "told-you-so" that Sony have actually got completely right. i eagerly await the next one.

perhaps you are right, but maybe going by this theroy we should be demanding that Hi-Def movies ship on multiple DVDs also (just a thought)

Changing discs every 5-10 hours in a game is a forgiveable and minor experience. Changing discs every hour or less for a movie would have people reaching for the flaming torches.

Remember the stink people kicked up over the early flipper-disc DVDs?

"Yeah, 30gb uncompressed and 3 dvds compressed ( 15 gb? )"

3 DVDs is 27gb. 15gb would fit on 2.

Hell at least it aint riven!

I need to change the disc for every bloody island? Everytime I switch between them? AUGH!

Since it's a JRPG, and will hence be rather linear, doesn't sound like there will be much disc swapping.

First to mention Oblivion will be first against the wall come the revolution.

Fingers crossed the Japanese feel the love and actually buy this game.

Doubt that it will even be enough to get remotely close to covering the costs. Only what? 80K 360's in Japan? Bet that it will do a lot better in the west though.

Comparing changing discs for a movie vs a game is not a fair comparison. If you had to change the game disc after 30 minutes of gameplay it's not very practical. But that's what you'd be looking at if you wanted to use DVD to carry HD. Perhaps even less, I don't know the exact HD content a DVD can hold.

So, changing DVD discs (like on this game) is OK for most I would imagine, it's going to happen several hours into the game and not be *that* intrusive.

How predictable this would bring out the fanboys arguing over whether the PS3 needs BluRay for games.

I read the 360 had sold 160k since launch is this true or is 80k nearer the mark? Either way the Japanese continue to avoid feeling the love. I'll bet there are a few Japanese Xbox fanboys who never get invited to any parties.

I don't get it... 30 gb uncompressed but they needed to put it on 3 dvds (27gb of space)? That doesn't make any sense at all.

You need to duplicate massive amounts of data on each disc of a multi-disc game - basic textures, models, code, sound, music etc which are used in multiple segments of the game.

Pay £500 so i dont have to swap discs, i couldnt care less how many discs it comes on, final fantasy 7 came on three and its still the best game ever.

Not just that but in theory and hopefully Resistance pioneers the idea devs should be able to put in all languages on one disc, so for example Europe would get Blue Dragon the exact same time as Japan and we get to listen to the Japaneese voices which would be sweet.

Unless Blue Dragon is being launched worldwide at the same time, then all i can say is Why the **** can't Square Enix do that for the past ten years.

nice. perhaps they can maintain the gameplay, which seems to be great, and get an artist who doesn't make it look like alex kid in miracle world 3d.

granted, the art direction is a matter of preference. but it turns me off completely.

Look at me, I am a Sony hater! Sony sucks even though they like to make things easier for the developers and the gamers! I'd rather swap games 10 times per gaming session than use some stupid FORCED format I never wanted. I'd rather still use cassettes if you ask me! They're cheap, too.

Steroyd: The language idea is nice, but I can't see it ever happening for something like an RPG. Makes more sense for them to get their money back as fast as possible in one region whilst doing the localisation for the other regions. But it would be great... and thanks Shinji - That makes sense. I wonder if they'll allow some installing to the HDD? That would be pretty cool.

This idea benefits devs as well think about it, it would literally kill the need for say Square Enix to hire BVG to localise Kingdom Hearts 2 to Europe, a matter of one size fits all.

Sure it screws that dev from starting out in the world, but SE saves money and time on localisation (or at the very least less time for me waiting for the damn games to arrive).

At least i hope that's the reason Sony setup a SCEWWS.

I only say this because of a glimmer of hope

I'm going to buy the x360 when this game will arrive here. Hope we'll have a deluxe pack similar to the one the Japanese will have, with special plate and action figures

For goodness sake MSFT. Make the HD-DVD a permanent feature!

I told people here that more than 9GB were needed in this gen and guess what I was RIGHT!!! :)

And now watch all the MSFT fanboys spin it on how great it is to swap discs! LOL!!

Japanese should eat this up. This should shift a load of 360's in Japan no doubt. But I'm more interested in a European release for this. Videos from TGS for this look apsolutly outstanding.

It will happen that there will be a non-linear game/game with a sandbox-like structure where changing discs is not an option, which needs more space than one DVD, I don't get what's so hard to understand there. And this game won't be on the 360.

And no, I couldn't care less about Sony, or Microsoft, or Nintendo, it's just so bloody obvious.

It's bloody amazing on how this turned into a Blu-ray vs DVD debate.

Actually, it's the one of about 2985792857 threads recently where I am not amazed that it turned into that debate. ;p

seriously who besides fanbois f****** cares?

Generally caring about which format is a suitable one hardly has anything to do with fanboyism. I agree that a reasonable debate is pretty much impossible because of fanboys from both camps, that doesn't make the topic unimportant though.

@Steroyd: It doesn't look much like DBZ at all. If anything, it looks very much along the same vein, design-wise, as Chrono Trigger. Which isn't too surprising given that that was the game that was produced last time Sakaguchi and Toriyama collaborated.

@Xerx3s: I'm pretty sure they've sold more than 80k X360s in Japan - I think it's closer to 120k - but even so, they apparently sold 100k preorders for the limited edition of this game in the space of a few hours, and I heard that they were going to produce another 90k LE copies because of the unexpectedly high demand.

Really, if MS markets this properly in Japan there is no reason why it couldn't be a big success. Especially given that no one can buy a PS3.

Character design of Chrono Trigger and Blue Dragon is by the same person that done DragonBall, HARDLY a suprise it looks like DBZ ...

That alone is enough to turn me off, I developed a alergic reaction to DB ... never got DQ VIII for 2 reasons, cell shadding and character design.

The multi disk is something I could not care less, I am not lazy enough that I cannot get up, open the tray, switch disks, close tray and press a key on the controler ... what the hell are you? europeans or lazy fat americans?

"The multi disk is something I could not care less, I am not lazy enough that I cannot get up, open the tray, switch disks, close tray and press a key on the controler ... what the hell are you? europeans or lazy fat americans?"

Maybe in an RPG it won't be bad. But RE4 on the Gamecube was. (after you finish the game and go through the extras).

Still prefer everything in one disc.

NegativeZero: As of last week there were pretty much exactly 164k 360s sold in Japan. (Those are actual sales numbers not shipping numbers).

[Edit - Unrelated. I don't really mind swapping discs. I did it for Final Fantasy 7 and others. I'd like to see options to install to the HDD though, especially if bigger ones are released or MS makes a caddy. I'm actually glad to see they're willing to go multidisc rather than just not make the game.]

You mean 164k sold in that week?

Foxclose: He means in total. But Blue Dragon will change that. After all it is a guy from the creator of Final Fantasy and it is a huge thing.

If that's not a success in Japan nothing will be.

Is this the first multi-disc release for the 360?? (Bonus DVDs excluded)

Disc changes, hell yes. Disc changes were a big part of the PSX-era Final Fantasy/JRPG games.. They were like act breaks in the story, and they were a great reference for gaming conversations ("how far into the game are you, man?" "oh, about two hours into disc 3"). Also, the multi-disc packages felt like a bigger and better deal.

I'd rather take an odd disc change than pay out of my a** for a drive I don't really need. Size is a restriction, sure, but CGI cutscenes excepted, you won't really need a size bigger than a DVD-9 for quite a few years yet. (Yes, I'm playing the Oblivion card.) In five years, the situation will most probably be a different one, but for now, Microsoft did the right thing. Multi disc games are going to be the odd exception, not the rule.

So, sequel eh? Is Blue Dragon going to be a new Final Fantasy scale franchise now? I bet so, if it sells well. If it's good, I'll jump in.

Jonathan_Fakenham: Disc changes aren't that awful, it's kinda cool to see a game divided up into different 'Acts' and having to insert that new disc gives it a feeling of wow this is a huge game.

It sort of adds to the charm in a way.

Well, the PS2 was a success in Japan because it got RPG after RPG every week. I think the PS3 will achieve a similar output in a couple of years but will the X360?

Yeah but on the PS2 i've grown too used to 100 hour RPG's on a single disc.

/tries to runaway from discussion.

Jonathan_Fakenham: Disc changes aren't that awful, it's kinda cool to see a game divided up into different 'Acts' and having to insert that new disc gives it a feeling of wow this is a huge game.
Yes, that's what I'm saying too. They do add to the charm.


Oh, s**t! -- Play is having a sale on "Dragon Quest VIII: Journey of the Cursed King"!! £12.99/€19.49

Just grabbed myself a copy. :D

Why do people keep talking about disc changing when noone is actually arguing about that?

The point is that GTA III would hardly have been possible on CD-Roms.

Yes, that is true, Lou.

But it's also true that there's still plenty of space to play around with on "just" a DVD-9 (I'm playing the Oblivion card, again).

Stop playing that card then since Oblivion resues the same models so many times its not even funny.

Like it or not the DVD in the XBox 360 will either lead to multi disks or short games and as I said, if you have a problem with multi disks you are nothing but a fat lazy american.