Gran Turismo HD gets release

By Tom Bramwell Published 21 September, 2006

Old and new, with lots of DLC.

Gran Turismo HD will be available for PlayStation 3 after all, according to reports from the latest issue of Famitsu Weekly, but it'll be more of a "Prologue" title than anything.

In fact there are going to be two separate game elements on one disc, released in Japan this December, one of which will use the E3 "Gran Turismo HD" demo as a basis for an online multiplayer showcase, while the other will offer a sample of content built to the Gran Turismo 5 spec.

Gran Turismo 5 won't be out until 2008, according to translations of the Famitsu piece, which features an interview with creator Kazunori Yamauchi. Sony has yet to comment on the details in the West.

The Gran Turismo HD "Premium" element will be the GT5 sample, and will include two new tracks and 30 cars that fully utilise the PS3's power. You'll be able to race both tracks using any car you like from the get-go, with arcade style races available.

One of the courses is Eiger Nordwand, while details on the other are scant, but Yamauchi reportedly says he'd like to experiment with changing weather conditions - rain halting halfway through a race, and so on.

Apparently the GT HD "Classic" element will be very bare bones to begin with - the idea being to buy downloadable cars and tracks to race them on, with some 750 cars and 50 tracks reportedly set to be made available.

Costs will be 50-100 yen for a car, or 200-500 yen for a course. That's about 22 to 45 pence per car and 90p to £2.25 for a track. Photo mode might also be made available as a downloadable.

Edit: cleaned up some mistranslation. Hopefully. [Fires self.]

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  • Steroyd #1 5 years ago

    I hate what Polyphony did with these microtransactions it's exactly what i feared Microtransactions would become. :-(

    What's worse is that people WILL buy them.

  • UncleLou #2 5 years ago

    Hyoushi wrote on the forum:
    Most news related to this seems to be mistranslated garbage.

    This will not be two SKUs, this is one game with two modes. Premium Mode is fully optimised for PS3, but only features 2 tracks and 30 or so cars. Classic mode is what you saw at E3, i.e. GT4 in 1080p with 750 cars and 50ish tracks. This is also the mode optimised for online play. But only 20-30 cars and a few tracks available initially, the rest will be unlocked by microtransactions.

    So. No free disc. One game. Two modes. Releases in december.

    Thank you, come again

  • kingmob #3 5 years ago

    I can't speak for others but, seriously, fuck this noise.

    If they're planning to go down that route then the disc itself (I can't really call it a "game";) had better be free.

    edit: ^^^ I see it isn't free. Oh dear. Bye-bye Turismo, hello Forza for the 360.
    Edited by 1 at 21/09/06 @ 10:09

  • skillian #4 5 years ago

    £2.25 for a track? Wow.

  • Balסּr #5 5 years ago

    Being generous and sticking to the low end of the scale results in $408 spent if you want all 750 cars and all 50 tracks (roughly what you got in Gran Turismo 4). - <a href=http://www.joysti q.com/2006/09/20/dubious-rumor-gran-turismo-hd-to-ship-witho ut-cars-or-tracks/>Joystiq</a>

    Fecking Sweet price!

    Why is it Sony are fixated on copying the hell out of everyone else, and making it a 100 times worse than it ever was before. This, a recent article about <a href=http://www.neogaf.com/index.php?opti on=com_content&task=view&id=29&Itemid=32>what 'entitlements' really are</a>, and the actual cost of the console and games surely has me very afraid of Sony's next console.

  • lambtron #6 5 years ago

    lol so much for Sony "free" online strategy.

    Assume the position!

  • alpha-0ne #7 5 years ago

    wow its so great to have free online play, nothing is ever free as demostrated by this article ;-)

  • Steroyd #8 5 years ago

    It's Polyphony not Sony before people get into a frenzy....

  • lambtron #9 5 years ago

    Come on Stereoyd, Polphyony are to all intents and purposes a Sony first party developer. As such they are Sony in all but name.

  • Dizzy #10 5 years ago

    GT fans really get it up the ***. I feel sorry for them.

  • Mugwum Verified Operations Director, Eurogamer Network #11 5 years ago

    UncleLou:

    He's right - sorry about that. I've made an edit.

  • Steroyd #12 5 years ago

    But all intents and purposes it's Polyphony that's making the game not Sony.

    Thiis isn't even a full game it's like a GT5 Prologue.... OH DEAR GOD!!!
    Edited by 1 at 21/09/06 @ 10:15

  • Darren #13 5 years ago

    Jesus, that sounds like a terrible idea... basically selling people the game engine and then expecting them to pay for the content in order to have something to play?!?

    What's so difficult about selling the entire game as a COMPLETE package? I mean this is an old PS2 game updated to hi-def isn't it not an entirely new game.

    Why bother with this game anyway... didn't Sony say that all PS2 games would be backward compatible on the PS3 and upscaled to 720p? If that's true then you might as well buy GT4 for £20 and you'll have 30+ tracks and 400+ cars from the off. The PS2 game even has 1080i support I believe...

  • Dezm0nd #14 5 years ago

    And people moaned at £179 for a wii and wii sports

    GT CLASSIC AND 750 cars only for £300! WOOO CHEERS SONY YOU ROX!!

    With these HD old crap driving game you are really spoiling us.
    Edited by 1 at 21/09/06 @ 10:16

  • Perry #15 5 years ago

    I'll believe this when I see it.

  • Blerk #16 5 years ago

    This is the future. This is what all games will become.

    The future is shit. Let's build a time machine!

  • skillian #17 5 years ago

    Half-Life 3 will be doing this too apparently. Headcrabs for £3 a pop and a tenner for those huge antlion things. And Gordon will speak if you stick fivers idown his HEV suit.

  • MyPointIs #18 5 years ago

    So, if a car on average is 34p and a track is on average £1.58 ...

    To buy what GT4 had already (750 cars and 50 tracks) will be ...

    750*0.34 + 50*1.58 = £250 + £236 = £491

    Five hundred quid.

    Welcome to the world of tomorrow.

  • Mr_Brown #19 5 years ago

    This can't be true...$408 for a old PS2 game in HD?! Thats terrible...

  • Steroyd #20 5 years ago

    yea but this isn't the proper type of GT where you win races win cars win more races win even more cars, this is solely an online affair meaning you won't want to own all the cars right (which limits variety online i must say).

    Anyway isn't this a similar philosophy to the Price between PS3 and Xbox 360 the sum of all it's parts if you so "choose" ends up more expensive than an all in one package?

    Not saying i'm not pissed at Polyphony for their brilliant ****ing idea, but this is just a filler for the real Gran Turismo 5 in 2008/9/10.

    Which god help me if they follow this route with that game....
    Edited by 1 at 21/09/06 @ 10:22

  • kangarootoo #21 5 years ago

    @Steroyd

    lambtron is right, Polyphony are effectively a Sony studio and are recognised as such internally.

  • Steroyd #22 5 years ago

    Not really othrwise they wouldn't be known as Polyphony they'd be Sony Games Studio or something.

    Like how Nintedo's internallly published games are made from Nintendo.

  • T4RG4 #23 5 years ago

    It's probably just some twats at Sony who've not been checked by their masters. I cant imagine it'd ever come out and be this crap. Polyphony really seem to be doing feck all of late.

  • kingmob #24 5 years ago

    quote: steroyd: "this is solely an online affair meaning you won't want to own all the cars right (which limits variety online i must say)."

    Which means that every online race you have will be a track full of the same cars with the exception of the one guy who hasn't read Gamefaqs to find out what the best cars are. Kind of like what happened to PGR3.

    I'm waiting on the announcement that when you buy a car it's only factory spec. Need racing tyres? That'll be a quid sir. Need a turbo? Call it £1.50 mate.

    Bullshit.

  • smelly #25 5 years ago

    WTF?

    That's just pure cunt-ish-ness!

    You buy a game, only to be told you then have to go online and buy extra stuff to make it the full game. And even then, you wont actually GET the fully game until 2008 (well lets face it - past track record - 2009).

    Fuck that. They can fuck off if they're getting my money now. GT is one of the few games I *would* buy a ps3 for ... If that's their attitude, they can get to fuck.

  • smelly #26 5 years ago

    >It's Polyphony not Sony before people get into a frenzy....

    LOL. Polyphony are pretty much part of sony. Sony would've almost definately have had a hand in this!

  • login_name #27 5 years ago

    The future of gaming sure looks expensive. At the risk of being flame grilled by rabid fanboys, this is one of the things I was worried about with Microsoft entering the console market. They pushed this with their Live! service and now everyone has to copy :(

  • oreillymj #28 5 years ago

    Welcome to the 21st Century were all the entertainment that was free is now pay per view, and still just as crap. The PR people hype it like they're doing you a favour and we all cough up whatever price is demanded. Works for Sky.


    Before they start coding weather conditions, how about real car physics and damage.

    I don't want shinier bumper cars.

  • Steroyd #29 5 years ago

    It's a force of habit usually when a game fucks up in some way i always blame the dev rather than the publisher.

    But whatever you guys say...

    Got to remember that this is a prologue though... just like the rip off demo GT4 prologue for £25 before it.

    If Polyphony/Sony/Whatever do that to the main game that is GT5 (non of this GT5 prolgue HD premium nonsense) then i'll break my computer to bits. :-)

  • lance.carter #30 5 years ago

    Not good news. I think we still need to hear whether the AI, Online + damage modelling will be like before anyone declares Polyphony to have lost their crown. Forza is looking like a serious contender providing the physics is about right.

  • brooza664 #31 5 years ago

    Isn't Rare a Microsoft developer? They don't go by the name Microsoft Game Studio

  • CrumpledPaper #32 5 years ago

    Who wants GT4 HD anyway?

    The only reason I'll be buying this disc is for the GT5 stuff.

  • Steroyd #33 5 years ago

    £330 for the equivalent of having the same amount of cars as GT4.

    Providing all cars cost 44p.

    That's not even including the tracks 50 of them for £2.50 a pop.

  • Darren #34 5 years ago

    Sony should release GT4 HD as a complete package at a budget price of, say, £30 (it is after all the same game as the two year old PS2 version) and leave GT5 until it's ready and sell it too as a complete game. They should forget all this downloadable content nonsense which is fine for brand new games but not games that you can already buy COMPLETE on the bloody PS2. It's nothing more than sheer stupidity and sheer greed on Sony's part and I certainly won't be buying either games, thank you, I already have GT4 on the PS2.

  • zoidberg #35 5 years ago

    "Half-Life 3 will be doing this too apparently. Headcrabs for £3 a pop and a tenner for those huge antlion things. And Gordon will speak if you stick fivers idown his HEV suit. "

    @hillian

    This just made my day. Thanks.

    P.S. Brilliant way to look at the direction things are going. What the hell?! Why not strip out the Blue Ray and get a big-ol' HDD in there (something like 500 GB) and use just pay-per-download games. If the console is 200-250 quid and downloadable games are still 40-ish, it'll look better. Broadband is going to rule the earth, and there will be NO DVDs/HD-DVDs/BR-Discs. Why stock up on a format that's going to be obsolete in less than 10 years?

  • Foxclose #36 5 years ago

    For goodness sake: don't pay for it then.
    If it's crap I am sure people won't anyway.

    However some of the cars and tracks may be to my liking! ;)

  • Rambaldi #37 5 years ago

    I'd be more bothered about this if:

    a) I didn't think the PS3 was a financial and design monstrosity
    b) I was inspired in any way shape or form by GT
    c) I was insanely forgiving and bought this piece of half-baked, unfinished, mid-development trite

    /is calm

  • AcidSnake #38 5 years ago

    I bet you they'll make the tracks and cars forwards compatible...
    Meaning that GT5 will be bare bones as well...

    But what about all those people without broadband connections?
    They're left with a crap skeleton game...

    Sony are having a streak of bad luck I'd say...

  • Foxclose #39 5 years ago

    "If all the cars and tracks can be bought instead of won from winning races... whats the point in the game?"


    I guess cars can be won or bought! You eithier good at racing or pay for the best cars!

    Just like real life simulation! This idea is sounding better and better! Although I feel sorry for people that don't want to pay extra for stuff!
    Edited by 2 at 21/09/06 @ 11:02

  • Wrobel #40 5 years ago

    Isn't Rare a Microsoft developer? They don't go by the name Microsoft Game Studio

    As is Bungie

  • spongebob #41 5 years ago

    Yeah, yeah, PS3 is doomed. Come on, we know this already.

    YAWN.

  • Steroyd #42 5 years ago

    >If all the cars and tracks can be bought instead of won from winning races... whats the point in the game?

    The whole point of this GTHD Classic nonesense is to build an online community by time GT5 hits the retail.

    And the whole point of GTHD premium edition is a GT5 prologue.

    Basically they're both fillers until the proper GT5 comes out while at the same time provides income for the game.

    Which isn't such a bad idea on paper....

  • Pooley #43 5 years ago

    GT4 was the game that made me go out and buy a PS2 and force feedback steering wheel.

    GT HD/GT5 is the game that'll make me want to do the same with the PS3 (wonder if the old steering wheel will work?)

    However, if you have to buy tracks and cars to proceed in the game, then there's no way I would support this. If you can unlock cars/tracks by completing races and winning monies, then this is okay. Then I would be tempted to buy the odd car, Lancia Integrale 16v/Evo for sure, but not if this is the only way.

    C'mon Polyphony, don't do this to us.

  • moggsy #44 5 years ago

    This is a shit idea.

    You can't even compare it to buying an album by downloading and paying for a song at a time. It's more like downloading an album which starts of as just being a base line and you have to pay to add the other instruments and singers voice.

    Ludicrous!

  • Steroyd #45 5 years ago

    doubt it... GT5 is two years away god knows what it'd really look like by then.

  • SuperBas #46 5 years ago

    Buy a PC instead.

    Problem solved.

  • Steroyd #47 5 years ago

    It's just that i've always seen the dev studio seperate from whatever Sony is in this case.

    It's like saying Rare is Microsoft so therefore Micrsoft ****ed up with PD0 and Kameo for example.

    Or Square Enix created the wonderful Dragon uest 8 even though it was Level 5 who did the dirty work.

    thanks for deleting you post Kangarootoo. :-(
    Edited by 1 at 21/09/06 @ 11:36

  • Scientist #48 5 years ago

    "It's just that i've always seen the dev studio seperate from whatever Sony is in this case."

    Yes, but in this instance Sony publishes the game so they will most likely be the ones who came up with the online charging system.

  • T4RG4 #49 5 years ago

    I'd pay £5 to download some AI

  • MENTAL1ST Verified Senior Software Engineer, Picsel UK Ltd. #50 5 years ago

    Buy a PC instead

    But all PC racing games are shit. Especially that GTR nonsense. Just because a game is difficult to control doesn't mean it's a good driving game (or even a good simulation).

    For some reason even the PC version of Toca doesn't feel right compared to the Ps2 version played with the same bloody steering wheel.

  • Les #51 5 years ago

    They're a bit slow with converting the IGN articles to EG-ones. There was also something about Team Ninja making a PS3 remake of their only good Xbox game... ;)

  • T4RG4 #52 5 years ago

    Toca has always been awful to drive, in older versions we accepted it because we thought it would improve with faster machines. It's still pants grrr.

    GT is pretty good handling wise, maybe a bit easy. But it has NO AI, awful, awful. Still, nothing on PC or PS to rival it.

  • crozon #53 5 years ago

    Well not really bothered about this news since i discovered Toca 3 and the true race sim GTR2.
    Amazing how these companies want to bleed people dry by these micro transactions.
    Glad i am a PC gamer. Considering that the guys who made trackmania gave away a free expansion pack and made a free game Nations. FEAR's multiplayer was given away free. Even Battlefield 2 how have gone into make small booster packs have given away 2 free maps..........

  • kangarootoo #54 5 years ago

    @Steroyd

    After I had read on it seemed a few people were getting at you for the same thing, so I didn't want to be ganging up on you. I can put it back if you would prefer? :)

  • speedjack #55 5 years ago

    Just so you're all clear...

    You're paying for a 'bare bones' multiplayer version of a souped up 2 year old PS2 title, and an equally tiny sample of the proper PS3 version which isn't due out for another 2 years....

    ...and you'll pay twice to have anything close to enough content to make it worth your while.

    BARGAIN !!!

  • Steroyd #56 5 years ago

    Why would i feel ganged up on the internet... I may have feelings but this is the internet for christ sake.

    Bah!! all i know is that Polyphony makes Gran Turismo so it's Polyphony's fault.

  • kangarootoo #57 5 years ago

    @Steroyd

    Well OK, not ganged up on as such, but I seemed to be just joining a chorus of people saying "Polyphony is a Sony studio" and there didn't seem much point. Jesus dude, I removed it for your benefit too you know.

    In this particular case, who decided what packages should be releasedin what form and at what price point will have been decided at various levels by various departments, so you can probably blame everyone :)

  • Vin #58 5 years ago

    Just sod off, Sony.

    Nintendo, we all love you really.

  • UncleLou #59 5 years ago

    But all PC racing games are shit. Especially that GTR nonsense. Just because a game is difficult to control doesn't mean it's a good driving game (or even a good simulation).

    For some reason even the PC version of Toca doesn't feel right compared to the Ps2 version played with the same bloody steering wheel.


    Nonsense. With driving aids like spin control on, GTR becomes an arcade racer that controls pretty similar to Gran Turismo, only with 40 cars instead of 6, great AI and damage.

  • Darren #60 5 years ago

    I couldn't agree more. As a racing game, GTR 2 pisses all over Gran Turismo 4, which isn't really a proper racing game at all and certainly not the "real driving simulator" it claims to be. It's more of a driving experience, a bit like Test Drive Unlimited; collect desirable cars and get the chance to drive them. As a racing game, GT4 is pretty average thanks to no damage modelling and lousy, predictable AI.

  • Hughes. #61 5 years ago

    GT Concept and GT4 Prologue didn't sell very well, but this may appeal to those who've bought a PS3 and want a bit of eye-candy to show it off, but I can't see people spending much on the extra content. I can't see any way that this won't continue the awful trend towards those who spend more money being more successful in the game.

    If all the cars cost the same fair enough, but if someone is prepared to spend 2 quid to have a Pagani Zonda while someone else only spends 50p on a Civic Type-R, that won't be a very even race.

    This whole DL content stuff seems a very wrong turn for gaming, to me.

  • The-Bodybuilder #62 5 years ago

    >"It's like saying Rare is Microsoft so therefore Micrsoft ****ed up with PD0 and Kameo for example."

    Indeed they did. Seeing as MS are the publishers, they messed up. They should have told rare "no cartoon graphics", or "we want this, and that".

    Developers are just that, they develop.
    Publishers are the big boss. They tell you what they want, how they want it, where they want it (I'm still talking about gaming here).
    And guess who are the publishers? of Polyphony?
    You say polyphony are messing up? You do know that sony could EASILY put a stop to this (as they are the publishers)? So why aren't they?

    Next thing we'll have to buy killzone, and pay for the extra textures and effects to make look like the E3 2005 version.
    Edited by 1 at 21/09/06 @ 12:57

  • The12thMonkey #63 5 years ago

    Rare, Bungie, Polyphony Digital, Retro... they are all Second Party; seperated from the apparatus of the publisher, but they work exclusively for that publisher.

    And on the subject of microtransactions... I'm reminded of all those YouTube guttings of the Sony E3 2006 conference;

    "Microtransactions!"
    "Five Hundred and Ninety Nine US Dollars!"

    Thumps keyboard and smashes monitor.
    Edited by 1 at 21/09/06 @ 13:08

  • Steroyd #64 5 years ago

    You mean to say that i've been blaming Rare for messing up over the last 5 years when it was really Microsoft.

    /is confused

    Next thing we'll have to buy killzone, and pay for the extra textures and effects to make look like the E3 2005 version.

    But this is a Gran Turismo Demo with a money milking infrastructure not saying what they're doing is right but i guess i'm one of those guys who never bothered with GT3 B-spec, or GT Prologue and the other titles PD have launched as Beta tests.

    So about that Publisher = Develeper relationship....

  • psychokitten #65 5 years ago

    Awful awful idea. Really. Who thought of it? God, this is an awful idea.

    Did I mention it's awful?

    This has put me off buying any GT games, any of 'em.

  • PS3lol #66 5 years ago

    The bad news just never stops for people buying a PS3, seriously why are you still getting one?,they've already screwed the ass off you ten times this year, not had enough yet?.

  • Steroyd #67 5 years ago

    50Gb of blu-ray space... and that's all you get...

    rofl

    Seen some scans of it the game looks great BTW.

  • PS3lol #68 5 years ago

    Don't blame MS for this shit, they never milked you as bad as this. Just buy Forza 2 and a Xbox 360.

    Better game for only £45, not £400. Make sense to you dumb ass sony fanboys?, thought not. Go pay £400 for GT you deserve to be treated like a bunch of dumb bitches the way you carry on licking Sony's butt. They hate you, wake up.

  • kangarootoo #69 5 years ago

    "Next thing we'll have to buy killzone, and pay for the extra textures and effects to make look like the E3 2005 version."

    That would be a classic strawman argument right there (now I've remembered that term, I'm going to use it whenever I can). Wiki it if that means nothing to you.

  • chupachups #70 5 years ago

    "Rare, Bungie, Polyphony Digital, Retro... they are all Second Party; seperated from the apparatus of the publisher, but they work exclusively for that publisher. "

    But it's important to note that with almost any commercial game it's the publisher that calls all the shots, they're the ones who pay for the game so they're the ones that ultimately decide what the game is like. They're the bosses, the developers are the workers.

    If an independent developer didn't like what a publisher demanded, they could just go off and find another publisher. These one-publisher developers like Rare can't do that, so they're permanently under the thumbs of the publisher because they can either obey them or they have to close down.

    I could well believe Sony has ordered this pricing structure themselves, with an incredibly high upper limit on what can be bought to see just how much people are willing to pay for rather cheaply done extras. The more people do pay, the more Sony are going to include schemes like this in the games they publish.

  • Steroyd #71 5 years ago

    But this isn't a game... it's a demo goddamnit.

    If you're idiotic to buy a £25 demo that is GT prologue then you're idiotic to buy this Prologue Plus the cars for online.

  • jack_klugman #72 5 years ago

    Bungie Studios are wholey owned by Microsoft and are part of Microsoft Game Studios.

  • Steroyd #73 5 years ago

    But it's not mega milkage if GTHD and GT5 Prolouge come on the same disc....

    or download or... whatever.

  • doctor__no #74 5 years ago

    If the base game is close to or around ~£5, and the each car is 22 to 45 pence, and a track is 90p to £2.25; its a fine deal. I'll buy half-a-dozen cars I actually drive (No Opel Vectras, thank you) and couple of tracks; I should get a game I will actually like for less then ~£15.

    . . .and online better be free.

  • The-Bodybuilder #75 5 years ago

    >"So about that Publisher = Develeper relationship...."

    Publishers are the boss. Whatever they say, goes.
    And 99.9% of the time, whenever a game has some sort of money-milking structure to it (downloads or other), it's the publishers that see the cash. The developers get thier fixed pay (unless ofcourse they're independant) or a nice bonus.

    Most decisions (especially financial ones) are made by the publishers.

  • The-Bodybuilder #76 5 years ago

    No seriously, thier really is no excuse. This idea is simply aweful.
    However thought of this should recieve the dreaded "bum on a singapore sling" treatment.
    And you really don't want to know what that is (nothing sexual, just a lot of pain).

  • SomaticSense #77 5 years ago

    "Apparently the GT HD "Classic" element will be very bare bones to begin with - the idea being to buy downloadable cars and tracks to race them on, with some 750 cars and 50 tracks reportedly set to be made available."

    You have got to be fucking kidding me.

    Read this on teletext this morning and they worked the total cost out at around £217 for everything. That is an absolute joke and even if the disc is free, unless they pay ME over £150 in order to make up for the difference in how much it should cost I am not getting it.

    I just can't fathom at all how this is going to sell. I can imagine so many casual GT lovers who aren't aware of the microtransactions going into a shop, seeing the game and picking it up on impulse for around £19.99 (how much it is likely to cost knowing rip-off Sony), getting home and finding out they only have a demo of a yet to be released game, or NO cars and NO tracks in the actual 'game' they just bought. cue lots of angry consumers taking the game back resulting in practically fuck all sales of the game. Hopefully the whole exercise will end up costing Sony a pretty penny so they learn their lesson not to fuck us over so royally.
    Edited by 1 at 22/09/06 @ 18:39

  • mike_mgoblue #78 5 years ago

    The Playstation 3 is apparently NOT BACKWARD COMPATIBLE!!!

    You can read about this at this website: next-gen.biz/index.php?option=com_cont ent&task=view&id=3862&Itemid=

    Sony says that PSOne and PS2 games can be played on the Playstation 3 "as downloadable content, for a fee."

    If PS2 and PSOne games need to be downloaded for a fee in order to be played on the Playstation 3, it means the Playstation 3 is NOT BACKWARD COMPATIBLE like the Playstation 2 is. Looks like Sony was deceiving people all along...AGAIN!

  • Hughes. #79 5 years ago

    @Mike_MSstooge


    That's for games people don't already own, you think-lite corporate stooge. It must hurt that your paymasters at MS were too incompetent to make BC work, but it's been widely known for a long time that early PS3s will actually have PS2 hardware built-in until they have software emulation working well enough to do without. And in your own post you admit it can play them, meaning it quite obviously is backwards compatible.

    Are you actually this stupid? Or do you just hope people are dumb enough to believe your Cut & Pasted multi-thread spamming cretinism?

    That'll teach me to have an Ignore button amnesty.

  • Lex_Luthor #80 5 years ago

    Aren't there rules about spamming around here?

  • chronom4n #81 5 years ago

    This whole fiasco has got me stumped. I truly expected a racing game that will deliver all the thrills and spills of motor racing with the PS3. Not this bullshit. I invested a lot of money in to GT4 what with the race seat and steering wheel, so now they are asking me to fork out more money. They can more or less stick it where the sun don't shine! I love my racing games and especially GT4 with it 900 degree wheel. But the way things are going right now, i am going to give my money to Microsoft as they seem to be giving me all the right vibes when it comes to creating a real racing experience aka Xbox Live and/or Forza. All this talk of microtransactions. surely no one is going to be wanting to buy all of the 750 cars and all 50 tracks. what is wrong with the sony/polyphony guys? are they so hell bent on wanting to milk us that they have completely lost the plot? I suppose that kazanouri yamauchi cant see the future other than beyond his own nose. I am virtually saying goodbye to GT and Polyphony Digital IF this is really how they are going to expect me to play their games.

  • chronom4n #82 5 years ago

    @mike_mgoblue aka "not the sharpest tool in the shed" what type of gamer are you? i wonder if you have even reached the age of puberty. It is blatanly clear that you love M$ so please unless you have something intelligent to post on this forum, go away, because i am sure that you will have more fun playing with your dick than with a games console.