X360 Oblivion benefits from HDD

By Tom Bramwell Published 19 August, 2005

But doesn't need it.

However much Microsoft says about the way Xbox 360 works, there always seems to be some lingering confusion - such is life as consoles become more complex pieces of kit, we suppose. Fortunately, some developers are keen to keep their fans up to speed, and one such dev is Bethesda Softworks, whose exec producer on Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion revealed this week that the game won't require a hard disk, but may benefit from the addition of one to the X360 Core System.

"We've known since day one that there would be versions of the 360 without a hard drive, so Oblivion will still work on every 360," he confirmed. "That being said, Oblivion takes full advantage of the hard drive and uses it extensively, so we'd certainly recommend that everyone gets one."

As announced earlier this week, Xbox 360 will be made available in two flavours - the main version, featuring various peripherals including the 20GB hard disk, will cost £279.99 / EUR399.99 at launch, while a Core System package without the hard disk and just a wired controller for company will cost £209.99 / EUR299.99.

Whether or not Oblivion buyers have a hard disk, one thing they will benefit from is the voice acting talent of Lynda Carter - best known for her TV role as Wonder Woman. Earlier this week, Bethesda announced her involvement. She's honoured to participate, apparently, as it "represents another major step forward in the evolution of videogames". Patrick Stewart is already on the voice-acting cast as the game's Emperor.

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Comments (98) Latest comment 7 years ago

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  • deaner #1 7 years ago

    Bethesda Softworks > SkyNet > Microsoft

  • kewny #2 7 years ago

    Oh no, here we go again...............!

  • Blerk #3 7 years ago

    Oblivion takes full advantage of the hard drive and uses it extensively, so we'd certainly recommend that everyone gets one

    Translation:
    It runs like shit without a HDD. You'd better like loading screens.

  • Furbs #4 7 years ago

    Paging Gareth.de...
    Gareth.de to a courtesy phone please...

  • Teeth #5 7 years ago

    LOL, this is going to be excellent...

    Come on lads, let's have a fight!

  • trevd72 #6 7 years ago

    its only fair. get the harddrive and stop complaining. i want no more complaints like in the other 300+ post rant - o - thons. if you are an early adopter and a gamer you know what to do. if you a dole blodger and cant afford it dont complain or get the max package out of your mams catalogue at an inflated price over 40 weeks.

    i hope to see some of you who think the x360 is a bargain on GR3. baadooomm
    Edited by 1 at 19/08/05 @ 15:14

  • Celeborn #7 7 years ago

    I still don't get this HD buiseness. Sure you could get the cheaper version, but then with £30 required for a memory card to actually save your progress, you pretty much up there with the HD bundled system (which i'm presuming games can see and save there instead).

  • trevd72 #8 7 years ago

    you answered your own question and like i said 10 times yesterday the 209 one is for pricing and marketing the real system is the 279 one

  • barchetta #9 7 years ago

    If devcos are creating software knowing that a hard disk is not to be taken for granted from console inception - and not a HD introduced sometime later in a console cycle - then surely this won't lead to the same situation as PS2.

    Accomodation can be made which would give HD users a 'better' ride - (quicker load times/game saves/added DL & user content etc.) without denying non HD users the same game.

    Granted, new concepts that would make radical uses of the HD may flounder but I didn't see much use of this for xbox this gen. Cross-platform development probably accounted for much of that - lets see if Sony supply a HD as standard...

    I've seen a lot of talk on this 'has it got one or hasn't it?' conundrum but have yet to hear much in the way of a coherent explanation from either developers or Microsoft itself.

  • trevd72 #10 7 years ago

    grrrrrr we went through this yesterday..........

    things will switch on in a game when the HDD is detected like caching, soundtracks and shit

    and the manufacturing ratio is 80/20 to 279/209. and frankly you have to be a fuckwhit to buy the 209 x360 or your the type of gamer who will only play on it 1 hour a week.
    Edited by 4 at 19/08/05 @ 15:25

  • Bumbuliuz #11 7 years ago

    I have know from day one I would pick up a xbox 360 with a hard drive. For me it´s one of the reasons the xbox is better than the ps2. I love the custom playlists, not having to use many memory cards. And on the plus side I will finally have a "42 Plasma HTDV TV when the Xbox 360 launches so I can enjoy the HDTV goodness :)
    Edited by 1 at 19/08/05 @ 15:26

  • deaner #12 7 years ago

    Only if it's 720p or 1080i.

    If it's 480i, 480p or 1080p you'll want a PS3.

  • Dizzy #13 7 years ago

    >If it's 480i, 480p or 1080p you'll want a PS3.

    Not really... since Sony has said devs can choose their own resolutions. Let's wait and see how many will have smooth 1080p games running.

  • trevd72 #14 7 years ago

    lets see how many of us will have HDTV

  • captain-future #15 7 years ago

    *LOL* She's honoured to participate and took the money!

  • PearOfAnguish #16 7 years ago

    Microsoft is making life difficult for both consumers and developers. Devs must take into account users who may not have a hard disk which could mean features are missing because they don't want to alienate potential buyers. Or they just decide that it's easier to use the hard disk, forcing everyone to buy it anyway. Not to mention the fact that you'll need a hard drive for the 360 to be backwards compatible.

    Screw MS. Buy a modded Xbox and use it as an emulation machine.

  • lennon #17 7 years ago

    You only have to look at sites like amazon to see that the strategy works. They have adverts that say xbox 360 from £209

    I really think people are making more out of this issue than needed. Blerk you may have a point but we just dont know so until we do we shouldnt speculate.

  • Furbs #18 7 years ago

    What we gonna talk about then? :)

    What would avoid this whole situation is if there wasnt the apparent stipulation by MS that games had to work on both versions. Its not like if you buy the cheap one you cant upgrade. Just accept that out of the box you may not be able to play EVERY offline game. Would avoid confusion on the part of the devs.

  • trevd72 #19 7 years ago

    lennon - amen
    Edited by 2 at 19/08/05 @ 15:41

  • drumbaby #20 7 years ago

    This is how every game should be made. Both for PS3 and Xbox 360. Luvverly jubbly HDD functionallity if you splash out on HDD. Less functionallity (but it still works fine) if you don't.

    As long as no functionallity doesn't = utter shit, everyone's happy, and the HDD becomes a much publicised and gradually more desirable bit of kit, and not just a mysteriously forgotten about peripheral like the PS2's.

  • lennon #21 7 years ago

    I understand where your coming from furbs and I do wish they could have included it. I just dont see that it will cause a massive problem. I suspect that many devs will simply ignore the HDD possibilities if it means extra work which is a shame but as long as it doesnt affect the games overall I will be happy.

    Just to stir things up a notch did you know that the included remote in the premium pack is actually a mini remote and not the full one?

  • Furbs #22 7 years ago

    You're right lennon, either way the games will be good, I've no doubt about it. I guess I'm bored of seeing a game written with one spec in mind being ported over to the Xbox with no apparent improvement or optimisation. If it happens with the HDD, its not going to put me off wanting one, it wont make me scream and shout, and to be honest, I wont give a shit if the games are good. Would just be nice if they could be even better :)

    Yeah I noticed that about the remote though. From what I can see, the only differences are its missing the numeric keypad. Given that on my Xbox remote and my (Sony!!) DVD player I've used the number keys about twice, I'm not too bothered if thats the only difference.

    From reading whats available on the remotes, it certainly doesnt seem you lose any major functionality.

  • trevd72 #23 7 years ago

    yeh i noticed the "mini" in a couple descriptions. as long as it allows me to turn on/off and basic dvd controls i am ok with this. i dont really use the other options on a DVD or XBMC.

    Take a look at this site

    http://ww w.gogames.co.uk/product.php?cat2=8

    they have some early release dates. do they know something?

  • Freek #24 7 years ago

    Backwards compatabitly doesn't work without the harddisk either. Cheapo package is crap.

  • kewny #25 7 years ago

    trevd72: Yeah just looked at the site. Early November seems to coincide with a few rumours of the release date I read about the other day (not sure if they were on gameinformer or not). I guess we will find out in due course......

  • lennon #26 7 years ago

    I think thats likely to be a bit early to be honest. Gameplay have gone to the end of november for their predicted release date but I think they want to manage expectation.

    As for the remote I just wanted to see if anyone wanted to vent their spleen about something else ;)

  • sephy #27 7 years ago

    Patrick Stewart \o/

  • trevd72 #28 7 years ago

    so is Oblivion going to be another Marmite game?

  • mattigan #29 7 years ago

    I'm going to be getting a Plasma HDTV soon, anyone got any cheap sites for them? I'm going for a 37inch+ one

  • Darkedge #30 7 years ago

    Lynda Carter? Mmmmmmmmmm foxy :)

  • jellyhead #31 7 years ago

    as Razz isn't around ...
    Linda Carter
    / wanks

  • trevd72 #32 7 years ago

    she is a MILF.

  • lennon #33 7 years ago

    Whats that mean? A man in ladies fur?

  • Teeth #34 7 years ago

    Come on! I was expecting more of a response from yesterday's 370-post partygoers.

    What's the deal here? Have they all gone away? Surely the argument can go on now?

  • ralphwolfenstein #35 7 years ago

    Argument won thanks, so I shaln't bother

    ;P

  • PearOfAnguish #36 7 years ago

    Lots more info here:
    http://www.planetxbox360.com/?view=article&article=83

  • Xerx3s #37 7 years ago

    So HOW exactly does it take full advantage of the HDD? Does it increase the speed? Do the graphics look nicer? Is the game speed higher? Simply using it to load and save savegames isnt using it to full advantage. It would be nice ie if you could copy a nice gamesoundtrack to the HDD and listen to it whenever you want (or somthing).

    Hey! I know some other consoles that dont have a HDD! So if your ranting about this, does that mean that you consider them to be absolutely lame too? I really dont get it. First ppl are ranting about how lame a console WITH a HDD is. Then ppl are ranting about how lame a console WITHOUT a HDD is. It almost seems that ppl are ranting for the sake of ranting.

  • Jmog #38 7 years ago

    "Only if it's 720p or 1080i.

    If it's 480i, 480p or 1080p you'll want a PS3."

    Rubbish. All Xbox 360 games will run in 720p, 480p and 480i.

  • Xavier_B_OXford #39 7 years ago

    HAH! Let this wondrous news silence all those $ony masturbators and Quimtendo gimps who were so smug about the Xbox 360 HDD being a 'pointless accessory'.

    This console is going to beat all the others over their pitiful heads with a rusty crowbar when it hits. It's gonna be the DADDY! The BS3 won't even have a hard drive, and as for the Plebolution, fuck, I'll be amazed if they can get that Fisher Price bollocks to even do more than say "Hi, I'm Barbie, will you be my friend?".

    Xbox 360 will run full circles around the so-called 'competition' and leave them crying into the dirt, with the fanboys desperately drinking their tears.

  • onyxbox #40 7 years ago

    I think I'll wait a few months. Most of the games are a bit 'meh' and by the time any must have games come out all this HDD malarky will have settled. Hopefully by then MS will have realised the error in their ways and bundle 'all' the XBox 360's with a HDD.


  • Furbs #41 7 years ago

    Xavier, have you ever used the phrase "gheystation" or "gaycube"?

  • Xavier_B_OXford #42 7 years ago

    I'm not that childish, Furbs.

  • velocity_girl #43 7 years ago

    I think I am right in that it is possible to stream content from a pc running media center on a 360 - could you also save games and stuff on the pc through the wireless connection? as this would mean you wouldnt necessarily need an hd with 360..

  • Furbs #44 7 years ago

    Pure guess, but I think they'd stop that to be honest, otherwise they'd lose all the addon HDD/Mem Card sales.

    Just bear in mind with the streamed media though, its unlikely (but possible I guess) it wont support Divx/Xvid or maybe even Quicktime/Real Media.

  • Roamer #45 7 years ago

    "I'm not that childish, Furbs"

    I beg to differ.

  • phAge #46 7 years ago

    I think Xavier is really Gareth 2.0 - with added fanboy-theasaurus, and simplified to work on all audiences. I liked 1.0 better.

  • Freek #47 7 years ago

    Re XerX3s:
    It would be nice ie if you could copy a nice gamesoundtrack to the HDD and listen to it whenever you want (or somthing).

    That is one of the things that the HD does, custom sountracks are hardcoded into the console and work with every game, the developers don't even have a say in this, it's standard feature, well if you have a HD ofcourse.
    Edited by 1 at 19/08/05 @ 22:00

  • Fubdub #48 7 years ago

    The interesting thing would be if Sony suddenly announced that the PS3 would come with a hard disk:
    The Xbox fanboys, who have now suddenly realized that hard disks are not all that important, the Sony fanboys who would suddenly have to realize that it's actually impossible to play a game without hard disk, their favourite game would certainly not run without.
    It will be like the opposite world from last generation, guaranteed fun to be had.

    I remember some guy on an Xbox Shenmue board who was sure that (lol, omg) Shenmue 2 would never be able to run on a PS2, since the savegames would each take up 40 PS2 memory cards (like totally, (I'm forgetting he was American here)), completely neglecting the fact that the game was designed for the Dreamcast with its 1mb vmu's.

  • Gareth.de #49 7 years ago

    Cue Furbs with his dick out "OH MY GOD IT DOESNT WORK WITHOUT A HDD WE'RE ALL GONNA DIE!!!!!"

    Mong.

  • Gareth.de #50 7 years ago

    The Xbox fanboys, who have now suddenly realized that hard disks are not all that important

    Firstly, where are there fanboys saying this exactly?

    All I see is people saying that it isn't a necessity and that games will still work without it. Oh, which just happens to be a FACT. Is it better to have a HDD? Yes. Will I be buying the one with a HDD? Yes. Have I at any point said that the HDD is not important? No. But, will all games work without the HDD, meaning that the HDD is not a necessity for those who do not wuish to buy it by their own free fucking will? YES.

    I wish EG would implement a system where you need an IQ at least in double figures to post here.
    Edited by 2 at 20/08/05 @ 12:42

  • Gareth.de #51 7 years ago

    phAge, Xaviour is a dick and a fanboy. I take any comparisons with him as a personal insult. Retract them!

  • phAge #52 7 years ago

    phAge, Xaviour is a dick and a fanboy. I take any comparisons with him as a personal insult.
    Excellent - mission complete. Seriously though - what regulard are you? Your spelling says clever, yet your sentences say tard. Something doesn't add up...
    Edited by 1 at 20/08/05 @ 14:44

  • Gareth.de #53 7 years ago

    How does someone become a tard simply by having NO patience with wankers and morons?

    Unless of course you *are* one of these, I fail to see how you reach your conclusion.

    Stating facts and having no time for the brain-dead does not make a tard. Get over it.

  • Furbs #54 7 years ago

    Do you fancy me Gareth? :)

  • Gareth.de #55 7 years ago

    No, you're an even bigger moron than Smelly, and that's saying something.

  • Furbs #56 7 years ago

    Why the petty insults? Cant we just be friends?

    Its a shame only Teeth replied to your request for friends to play with you on Live given he doesnt have Live.

    Theres a few of us EG'ers playing in a BF2 friendly next week, would you be interested?
    Edited by 1 at 20/08/05 @ 17:08

  • Gareth.de #57 7 years ago

    Ah well, if my memory serves me, I did try to be civil. Insults started with you, I do believe. The thread is still there if you'd like to take a look?

    I didn't expect people to start listing their gamer-tags. I for one wouldn't put it on here to be spammed by fools.

    Is that for PC or Xbox? I only have it for PC at the moment.

  • Furbs #58 7 years ago

    I believe the phrase was "you are being a jerk", not that you *were* a jerk. Its hardly on a par of being called a moron (which is defined as having a reading age between 7-12 and educationally challenged - given I have a 2.1 from Southampton University, I'm sure you'll agree you are wrong to use the phrase), a wanker, a washed up piece of shit (my fave!) and a retard (see above). Sure, acting as one is fine, but being one is a whole new kettle of ball games. Incidently, what provoked the "f*ck off out of my face bitch" comment to velocity girl?

    So how many replies actually indicated a wish to play against you? Just curious as it probably gives an indication of how well you are regarded by regular contributors to the site. Not that I'll mention the 16 players I got to join in a BF2 match the other day ;)
    For someone who is a clear expert on the Xbox, I'm amazed you think it would be that format, since BF2 is not coming out on it. Perhaps you mean "Battlefield: Modern Combat", a different game that doesnt even have a confirmed release date on the UK EA site? You want to be careful, people might get really aggressive and call you names for *appearing* so stupid :)
    Anyway, whats your user ID on BF2?

    Edit: You probably dont trust me, for fear of being spammed! Mines [EG]Furbs
    Edited by 2 at 20/08/05 @ 17:55

  • Gareth.de #59 7 years ago

    I believe the phrase was "you are being a jerk", not that you *were* a jerk.

    I could easily apply the same politician-style weasel words and say that you were a wanker at that point in time, and maybe not in general? Or that you were a floating turd at that particular instant? But seeing as I'm not a spineless politician-wannabe, I won't.

    Its hardly on a par of being called a moron

    Could a pig complain about being called a pig?

    (which is defined as having a reading age between 7-12 and educationally challenged - given I have a 2.1 from Southampton University

    In what, by the way?

    I'm sure you'll agree you are wrong to use the phrase

    Not really.

    Sure, acting as one is fine

    Maybe this attitude is the root of the problem? Acting like one is not fine at all. A shame you didn't learn this while obtaining your 2.1.

    Incidently, what provoked the "f*ck off out of my face bitch" comment to velocity girl?

    Seeing as you believe you can read at a higher level than a 7-12 year old, why not read her post?

    Just curious as it probably gives an indication of how well you are regarded by regular contributors to the site.

    Again, why would I care how I'm regarded by users of this site? The vast majority are brain-dead spotty little teenagers. Ah, hello Smelly. Had I wanted to make friends and lovers on a website like some others here I could mention, I'd visit an appropriate website and not one aimed for gamers to talk about games.

    Not that I'll mention the 16 players I got to join in a BF2 match the other day ;)

    A sign of how many people enjoyed the thought of repeatedly shooting you in the face perhaps?

    For someone who is a clear expert on the Xbox, I'm amazed you think it would be that format, since BF2 is not coming out on it.

    Explain to me, if you will, why it was so 'amazing' to suppose that a moron would not call Battlefield on Xbox BF2 after he has *repeatedly* banged on and on about issues that do not exist, completely ignoring 1st and 3rd party statements? You expect me to regard you with any kind of respect after that? You expect me to believe you are capable of such a relatively sophisticated task as giving a game its proper name? Hmm.

    Perhaps you mean "Battlefield: Modern Combat"

    Ah, the game that was only fairly recently named so to avoid said confusion with Battlefield 2? The game that until then was indeed called Battlefield 2? Yes, I think I mean that game. Well done you.

    a different game that doesnt even have a confirmed release date on the UK EA site?

    Do you think I spend my time browsing websites for release dates? As I actually do this thing called "work" for a living, I have neither the time nor the inclination to do this. I walk into a shop, see what I want, and buy it.

    You want to be careful, people might get really aggressive and call you names for *appearing* so stupid :)

    Pretty similar to how people get annoyed with you when you really *are* so stupid then?

    Anyway, whats your user ID on BF2?

    Stick it up your arse, mate. Not even the satisfaction of stabbing you in the eyes on BF2 would overcome the embarassment of playing against such a mong.
    Edited by 1 at 20/08/05 @ 18:05

  • Furbs #60 7 years ago

    Its in psychology and sociology believe it or not. Your posts make for REALLY interesting reading :p

    Still kinda interesting you asked if we were playing a game which is still nowhere to be seen on the radar...doh!

    Incidently, not that'll it bother you (since we're all teenagers!), but you'll be banned on sight if you enter the EG BF2 server. Oh I'm an admin there.

    Have a good weekend :)

  • Gareth.de #61 7 years ago

    Its in psychology and sociology believe it or not.

    I won't believe it, but thanks for the attempt at making me laugh my arse off. I guess standards in British education *really are* slipping.

    Still kinda interesting you asked if we were playing a game which is still nowhere to be seen on the radar...doh!

    Are you still kinda interested how you managed to carry a thread through 100 posts by banging on like a little bitch about non-existent issues?

    Incidently, not that'll it bother you (since we're all teenagers!), but you'll be banned on sight if you enter the EG BF2 server.

    You're right, it won't bother me. I've been playing the game online for weeks and not once been tempted to join an EG server. It would be like unleashing hell in a special needs home if you are anything to go by.

    Oh I'm an admin there.

    Well, I'm glad that EG can do their bit for the community and let mongs take part with roles that make them feel useful. There's a very pro-mong attitude in the UK lately, and I think it's great to give these unfortunate people a reason to live.

    Oh, but please explain to me how you plan to carry out any kind of ban. You don't know what my username is and my IP (which is dynamic, may I add, and which you won't know without accessing the admin logs on this site) can easily be spoofed by using any of the thousands of proxies and wingates available to me. To conclude, I could *easily* play on that server if I wanted to, and there's sweet fuck-all you could do about it. In fact, if you were to continue to piss me off in the way that you have been doing, I could quite easily ruin your stupid little game completely using these wingates.

    Not quite to clever now, are you boy?

    Have a good weekend :)

    I will, thanks. Get run over.
    Edited by 3 at 20/08/05 @ 18:52

  • The Old Bill #62 7 years ago

    "I could quite easily ruin your stupid little game completely using these wingates." Be careful when you issue an open challenge boy, you never know who'll be listening.

  • lennon #63 7 years ago

    Man I cant wait for the xbox 360 to come out.

  • The-Bodybuilder #64 7 years ago

    I wish I had a friend like gareth.
    He seems like such a popular guy. I bet he was the top dog when he was at school.

  • Gareth.de #65 7 years ago

    Be careful when you issue an open challenge boy, you never know who'll be listening.

    Ah, the key word there is could.

    Aren't weasel words great, furbs?

    Besides, the challenge came from furbs I think. Telling me I'd be banned upon entering the server sounds like a challenge to me. ;)
    Edited by 1 at 20/08/05 @ 22:06

  • Roamer #66 7 years ago

    I too, hope for a friend like Gareth, his friendly demeanor and charismatic communication methods is evident of a man of high self-esteem.

  • Gareth.de #67 7 years ago

    Hey, I have nothing against those of you who aren't mongs. There are a few here and they no-doubt know who they are. It's not like I'm on a mission to slag everyone off or anything. In fact, I prefer to get along.

    But I won't be trying to get along with any mongs, sorry.

  • Gareth.de #68 7 years ago

    Gareth, serious question here: Do you talk in real life like you type on here in any way?

    Are you for real? Of course not. No-one talks like that in real life. Not even me. ;)
    Edited by 1 at 20/08/05 @ 22:24

  • drumbaby #69 7 years ago

    Despite the iddy biddy penis?

  • Gareth.de #70 7 years ago

    Despite the iddy biddy penis?

    I doubt your iddy biddy penis should affect the way you speak, man.

  • Gareth.de #71 7 years ago

    I'm torn between this and kameo for an rpg launch title, kameo looks amazing but i know elder scrolls will be an insannley huge game with loads of cool stuff to explore like the previous ones.

    Yea, Kameo does look good. So many games to get, so little time to play them.

    *sigh*

  • phAge #72 7 years ago

    This is hilarious! Gareth is acting like a slightly retarded and less tolerant bastard-child of Balor and Jon Allard, only with weaker arguments and more transparent rhethorics (!). Still can't quite believe that Gareth is real (=not a sock), but I s'pose I'll just have to accept that the ability to write coherent sentences does in no way guarantee even the slightest hint of intelligence.

    Gareth - you are the very definition of the word "wanker", and I'm proud to make you the 3rd person on my ignore list.

    Cheerio, fuckface!

  • Gareth.de #73 7 years ago

    This is hilarious! Gareth is acting like a slightly retarded and less tolerant bastard-child of Balor and Jon Allard

    I'd ask you to say why, but since you're such a fucking retard I think I'd be wasting my time.

    only with weaker arguments

    Facts are weak? Whatever arsehole.

    Still can't quite believe that Gareth is real

    I bet your mother said the same thing about you when you were born, poor bitch.

    Gareth - you are the very definition of the word "wanker"

    Ouch that hurt! What a retarded abortion thinks of me is just *so* important to me. How am I going to sleep from this night forth?

    and I'm proud to make you the 3rd person on my ignore list.

    Thank fuck for that. Now I won't have to read your retarded "responses" (used in the losest possible way) to my posts. I'm sure everyone else is counting the days to when you'll finally put them on your ignore list too, you sad little sister fucker.

    fuckface!

    Ah that reminds me! Tell your mother she's shit at sucking cock.

  • Dirtbox #74 7 years ago

    Just exactly which bit of "and I'm proud to make you the 3rd person on my ignore list." escaped you? Would like me to email him your post so he can read your sparklingly witty retorts?

    Silly nob.

  • Gareth.de #75 7 years ago

    Just exactly which bit of "and I'm proud to make you the 3rd person on my ignore list." escaped you?

    Erm, I thought it was pretty clear by my post that none of it did. Are you a retard too?

    Would like me to email him your post so he can read your sparklingly witty retorts?

    Actually, I'd prefer it if you just got a life and pulled your tongue out of his arse.

  • PearOfAnguish #76 7 years ago

    Bloody hell, they're only games consoles. Are you lot the same people that used to write into Digitiser and complain everytime Digi said something about the Amiga?

  • tengu #77 7 years ago

    Why does this thread suddenly smell a lot more bullshit free?

  • The Old Bill #78 7 years ago

    Most your sock-puppets are gone?


    ;P

  • tengu #79 7 years ago

    /Checks

    Nope, still there :)

  • Firewine #80 7 years ago

    Translation:
    It runs like shit without a HDD. You'd better like loading screens.

    I like loading screens o_O

    ...gives me time to drink my tea ;)

  • brombeer #81 7 years ago

    And go to the bathroom...

  • brombeer #82 7 years ago

    Who is this Xavier anyway? Bill Gates The Second or something? For the love of God...Do you get paid by Microsoft?

  • bootsy_NL_30 #83 7 years ago

    ok look I know its trendy to slag off Bill Gates and Microsoft ....but I have a better idea ...if you dont like the products or the brand...dont buy them.

    youll probably be spending a lot less time thinking up critiques for a product line and a company that you are unable to effect in any real way and more time with the brand that your prefer,whatever that may be.

    I can apreciate the frustration of home PC users with Microsoft.Who knows maybe Bill Gates does stay up at night and read forums of internet game sites and maybe he does take all the criticism to heart and balls his eyes out to his psychologist about what PrOn_HE3D_69 said on tuesday night about his company and the way they do buisness...but I doubt it.Bill Gates is the figure head of modern capitalism if your sick of windows XP or the X-Box or MSN messenger etc etc and you really want to kick him in the pants dont consume his products.

    all you guys are doing now is whinging

  • Gareth.de #84 7 years ago

    Why does this thread suddenly smell a lot more bullshit free?

    Dunno. Have you been for your annual wash?

    It's pretty sad to remove all of my posts. Even the ones that were civil before I got annoyed with mongs like furbs. I guess this *really* is EuroLamer as has already been said.

    For those of you whos brother is also your uncle, ramming information through the skulls of dickheads is not bullshit. If this is what you believe then you're going to see a lot of 'bullshit' in your pathetic lives.

  • Furbs #85 7 years ago

    /waves at Gareth who is trying to post

  • phAge #86 7 years ago

    Ah yes - look at 'im - all red in the face, stamping his feet and trying to look scary... Bless.

  • w00t #87 7 years ago

    This thread made no sense to me until I realised I'd put Gareth.de on ignore about 3 weeks ago...

    /waves at Gareth

  • deaner #88 7 years ago

    I don't think I've put him on ignore, but I can't see any posts by him in this thread?!?

  • Furbs #89 7 years ago

    He's been banned, so all his posts disappear.

  • deaner #90 7 years ago

    I see. Shame, he was hilariously stroppy.

  • Carrybagma #91 7 years ago

    Oooo what happened to Gareth.de then? All his posts deleted, rather than moderated? Did the pull of the full moon ignite his blood-lust and unleash the content of his swearosaurus? Will he be allowed back again? Who will do the victory dance now - the mods?

    PS. Is that Xavier person Arnie again? Balor seems very ineffectual, so perhaps he's playing 'tag team' with his pals and taking a break.

  • Carrybagma #92 7 years ago

    Ah.

    Right you are then.

  • mystic_mick #93 7 years ago

    Xavier_B_OXford, The Xb360 will be the gayest console ever. It will retail for £99 before the PS3 is launched and still nobody will buy it. Well only the gay-gamers will. The PS3 will sell more units in the first week of release than what the puffbox has sold in all the previous months. Even the Fisher Price Ninty machine will have more power than the M$ junk box.

  • mystic_mick #94 7 years ago

    We can thank tengu, for bringing Gareth.de to the attention of the mods. Now we've lost one our bestest posters in the comments section. :o(

  • Furbs #95 7 years ago

    Heh, the irony
    /winks at tengu

  • mystic_mick #96 7 years ago

    The irony?
    /wanks at tengu

  • #97 7 years ago

    Well, it didn't take too long to work out that my email address is on some kind of watch list to prevent me signing up with a different username. Unfortunate then, that there are websites around that let you set up email accounts on the fly, isn't it?

    Banning people in this way is somewhat problematic in that you would have to ban every possible email address, username and of course source IP to enforce it, which would again mean blocking legitimate users from the site.

    Unless your brother is also your uncle, you should have the intelligence to realise that the best course of action is instead to simply stop being a cocksucker like phAge and Furbs.

    I was originally tempted to post obscene photos on here to show these wankers exactly what I thought of them since there's no real way for me to be banned, but instead I would rather try to get along (and just put the mongs on ignore) as there are actually a few decent people on here that I like.

    So, I'd like to continue posting in a less offensive way if possible, and instead of losing my rag with brainless people I'll just instantly put them on ignore.

    On the other hand, you may decide to ban me again in which case I'll be forced to make up another random email address to reregister and let my imagination decide what to do next.

    Up to you. ;)

  • Furbs #98 7 years ago

    You must be bored :)
    I bet its less work for you to be banned than it is for you to sign up new accounts.

    Still obscene pics are always good!

  • tengu #99 7 years ago

    Couldn't stay away, eh Gareth? ;)

    And micky boy, the mods were aware of him long before I ever said anything. I completely agree with your comments to that Xavier mong though. Why a guy like Gareth is banned from here and HE'S allowed to remain is beyond me!

  • Furbs #100 7 years ago

    Xavier > Gar.de to the power of 10

  • #101 7 years ago

    I bet its less work for you to be banned than it is for you to sign up new accounts.

    Actually, no. Take a look by all means. Very simple as I'm sure even you will see.

    Still obscene pics are always good!

    I wasn't going to post any photos with men or animals in, so don't get too excited.

    Couldn't stay away, eh Gareth? ;)

    Had fuck all to do with you, that I can promise you. It was more to do with showing how easy it was to come back than actually wanting to be here to be honest. As well as being completely unable to ban me from your sad little BF2 games, it's now blindingly obvious that should I choose to post here, there's absolutely nothing you can do to prevent that either.

    That 2.1 was pretty useless in the end wasn't it?

    But don't worry, I'm not going to contribute any more to EuroLamer's cash-for-hits counters if they're lame enough to ban someone who offends one of their mong readers. Although there are a couple of people here that I'd like to be able to talk to. No prizes for guessing that you're not one of them.

    And micky boy, the mods were aware of him long before I ever said anything.

    Yes, but it's your persistent whining like a little bitch that forced them to move to protect you, which is why no-one else gets banned for using the same language.

    I completely agree with your comments to that Xavier mong though. Why a guy like Gareth is banned from here and HE'S allowed to remain is beyond me!

    Why people like you are allowed to live is beyond me.
    Edited by 1 at 22/08/05 @ 18:17

  • inpHilltr8r #102 7 years ago

    HD Dependency => PC Developer ;)

  • tengu #103 7 years ago

    Gareth, you're a cunt.

  • phAge #104 7 years ago

    Yawn. Your pathetic rants aren't even amusing any longer, Gareth - but then again I bet you get that a lot.

    /ignore

  • Furbs #105 7 years ago

    What Gareth probably doesnt realise is that now EG have his IP address, and the fact he has threatened, or hinted that he could carry out a denial of service attack (suuuuuuuuure), EG or Jolt could probably, if they were arsed, lodge a formal complaint with his ISP.

    As we used to say in the old days...[plonk]
    Edited by 1 at 22/08/05 @ 21:23

  • phAge #106 7 years ago

    As I have him on ignore (in both his pathetic incarnations), I don't know what he's threatened, but there is no way he is able to do ANYTHING like a DoS-attack. Still, would be hilarious if EG would file a complaint with his ISP. Now *that* would probably get the poor kid in trouble with mom and dad! :)

  • Furbs #107 7 years ago

    Ah it was basically a vieled threat to try and bring down the EG BF2 server.
    /does the Blade "phhhhhhhhhh scary" noise.
    Edited by 1 at 22/08/05 @ 23:04

  • phAge #108 7 years ago

    Ah. I can just see him, in his parents' basement, pleading his "friends" to teach him some h4XX0r-skills, only to be laughed at for being such a tosser. Wonder if he'll be back again - just to let us know (again) that he "can't be stopped!"...?

  • #109 7 years ago

    Hallo, my good friends at EuroGamer!

    Bangor is a lonely place, so I would like to apologise to all of those people whom I have insulted and invite them to debate on my old web-site - funky.co.uk. Here's my profile -
    http://www.funky.co.uk/members/viewprofile.php?user =Gareth.de

    Let's be friends! Please, no abusive comments on the guestbook, as it's rude.

    Best regards,

    Gareth.de

    edit - Silly me!!
    Edited by 1 at 23/08/05 @ 01:12

  • #110 7 years ago

    Hey there phAge, you old joker you!

    I am a Network Admin you know, so watch out!

    I may even develop some software to sort you out!

    :-D

  • #111 7 years ago

    What Gareth probably doesnt realise is that now EG have his IP address

    LOL. How could I possibly not realise that? I'm not one of you dozy fuckers am I?

    the fact he has threatened

    Nope, I said I could. Team-kill that is. And I can. Anyone with a computer and a copy of the game can. Your point?

    or hinted that he could carry out a denial of service attack

    Erm no, I said I'd join and team-kill. How the fuck that means a DOS attack is beyond anyone's understanding if they're not a fuck-wit I suppose. There's a pretty major difference between a DOS attack, a DDOS attack, and team-killing.

    What a stupid cunt you are.

    (suuuuuuuuure)

    I have the knowledge to carry out DOS attacks yes, as it's what I am required to know about in my job. For prevention purposes more than actually doing it myself, but that's the difference between black hat and white hat. Not that you'd have any fucking idea what that means. But the bottom line is that I know how to. I have absolutely no intention of carrying out any kind of DOS attacks though.

    EG or Jolt could probably, if they were arsed, lodge a formal complaint with his ISP.

    And say what? "Gareth said he'd team-kill on our servers. We don't like team-killing so please do something. Oh, and a bunch of stupid cunts on our forums say team-killing is somehow linked to DOS attacks, so surely you can do something with that?"

    No, I think they'd actually require something in the way of proof or evidence before they could lodge any kind of complaint. Traffic logs for example. Words on a forum will get them absolutely no-where.

    Christ, you are the dullest fuckers I've ever had the misfortune to encounter.

  • #112 7 years ago

    I preferred how we did it back in my high school though, where the under 14s weren't allowed internet access unsupervised.

    I guess that's a mong joke of some sort? Weird what you lot think is funny. I guess you still laugh at each other's farts too right?

    I know I haven't been the nicest guy on here, but when I'm accused of saying stuff that I haven't said, accused of being a fanboy when I'm just stating facts, and banned for trying to ram the truth through some dull fucker's skull, I don't think anyone can blame me.

    Anyway, how about this for a deal? You all banged on about how I had threatened to bring down the EG servers with some amazing DOS attacks. So, if you can show me where I said that, or where I even said anything about a DOS attack, I'll leave this forum for good. If however you can find no such claims, because I actually made nothing of the sort, then you apologise to me for being the stupidest bunch of cunts that ever walked this earth and get out of my face.

    Of course, you're not going to accept this deal because you already know I'm right. You already know that you made this stuff up and that now you have some giant eggs on your faces.

    I just wanted to make a point of it.

  • Furbs #113 7 years ago

    I would, but for some reason I cant seem to find any of your comments :p
    Love your website by the way! I'm impressed a 23 year old can remember playing on the Dragon 32.

  • #114 7 years ago

    I would, but for some reason I cant seem to find any of your comments :p
    Love your website by the way! I'm impressed a 23 year old can remember playing on the Dragon 32.

    So why not use your heightened status here as EG game server administrator to obtain the posts? You use it to try and get people banned, so why not use it to obtain the proof you need to get rid of me?

    What? Cos there is no such proof? Ah yes, that would be it. What did you say? You just made it all up exactly like I said? Well, isn't that news?

    And which website is this? I have specified no website of mine on here, nor have I ever mentioned playing a Dragon 32.

    Making more stuff up I see. Unfortunate that mongs lack the capacity to learn from their mistakes, isn't it?
    Edited by 1 at 23/08/05 @ 12:21

  • Furbs #115 7 years ago

    I apologise, I'm getting you mixed up with Petay_Pan. Similar temprament yasee.

    I had no hand in getting you banned other than report your abusive language. Sadly my admin rights on the BF2 server carry no weight at all with this sites admin. Maybe you should email admin at eurogamer dot net and ask them to reinstate you?

  • #116 7 years ago

    Or maybe not? I'm quite happy with this new name of mine.

    Having the same temprament would explain why I keep thinking I flushed you down the toilet last week then.

    Seeing as we all know you made that stuff up then, and that you're consequently the stupidest fucker that ever walked the earth, I think this conversation is over.

    /ignore

  • tengu #117 7 years ago

    "Or maybe not? I'm quite happy with this new name of mine."

    Don't get too attached, son.

  • Furbs #118 7 years ago

    "Having the same temprament would explain why I keep thinking I flushed you down the toilet last week then."
    And this coming from the same 23 year old that thinks laughing at farts isnt funny ;)

    I prefer Garth.Dee.Dee anyway, at least he wont ignore me.

  • Teeth #119 7 years ago

    Begone!

  • Teeth #120 7 years ago

    Wow, it worked.

    /looks at hands

  • tengu #121 7 years ago

    Ha HA!

    Bye bye again Gareth. See you next time you claw your way back in you WORM! :)

  • Furbs #122 7 years ago

    /sucks up to Teeth