PS3 Virtua Tennis 3 in 1080p News

18 September, 2006

Virtua Tennis 3 will run at 1080p on PlayStation 3, according to reports from Japan.

1UP explains that during a SEGA press event in Tokyo this weekend, the game was shown off on high-resolution displays, while nearby placards declared it was running in 1080p.

Up to now, very few developers have managed to hit the PlayStation 3's highest single-monitor resolution, although some are hopeful of being able to do so.

Speaking to GamePro recently, a Sony spokesperson said that Insomniac is another aiming for the high resolution with Resistance: Fall of Man.

"Right now the game is at 720p and we are aiming to have it reach 1080p by the time the game is wrapped," the spokesperson said.

PlayStation 3 is due out in the US and Japan this November, with a European release set for March 2007.

Virtua Tennis 3 is due out on PS3 and Xbox 360, with PC and PSP versions also in development.

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18/09/06 @ 10:07

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No how can this be. They must be lying. Or something.

Omg.

paulf

18/09/06 @ 10:08

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thats really nice, now all we need is someone to sell a tele that can handle 1080p for less than the price of a small car, mind you by the time ps3 comes out over someone might

Xerx3s

18/09/06 @ 10:08

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Virtua Tennis 3 will run at 1080p on PlayStation 3 =! "Right now the game is at 720p and we are aiming to have it reach 1080p by the time the game is wrapped," the spokesperson said.

Not that it really matters though.

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18/09/06 @ 10:10

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Not really.

LFMartins

18/09/06 @ 10:13

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"Right now the game is at 720p and we are aiming to have it reach 1080p by the time the game is wrapped,"

Read the article.That�s a quote about Ressistance.Virtua Tennis 3 was displayed already at 1080p.

JHuxley

18/09/06 @ 10:13

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This'll be the way of things to come. More developers will take advantage of the feature as they learn more about the console. No brainer.

Darren

18/09/06 @ 10:20

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Now that's really good news and seems to hint at the PS3 being quite a graphically capable beast after all especially considering how detailed both Resistance and Virtua Tennis 3 are, with the latter running at 60 fps I believe. Shame that it'll be a long before I get to see those games running in 1080p though... :(

SeesThroughAll

18/09/06 @ 10:24

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LOL at people who can't accept that developers are already producing games in HD.

drumbaby

18/09/06 @ 10:25

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This is so unfair. Sega Tennis for the Xbox 360 could easily match this if it had been in development for the same number of aeons the PS3 version has. There will be no difference between the two systems' graphics where cross platform titles are concerned. None I tell you!

;)

penhalion

18/09/06 @ 10:26

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Virtual tennis has a very limited field of display so 1080p is possible. I don't think this is the case with Resistance hence the 720p with (jump on the bandwagon) hopes of hitting 1080p.

It's kind of like saying we have space invaders running at 1080p i.e. it's not like there is anything major going on (on screen) to stop you doing so!

asphaltcowboy

18/09/06 @ 10:27

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+1 for penhalion

SeesThroughAll

18/09/06 @ 10:29

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@ drumbaby:

But chances are that X360 owners will still be able to take a 1080i output and de-interlace it, which would be as close to 1080p as one could get. So everybody can enjoy HD. Of course, if the PS3 can output 1080p, why not use the feature?

Gotta love Sega :) I wish they came back with an uber-powerful console. They would kick BOTH Fony and M$ a$$e$.

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JHuxley

18/09/06 @ 10:35

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@penhalion

....yeah...that's it. Space Invaders.

:|

Machiavel

18/09/06 @ 10:35

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It's pong at 1080p, whoo-hoo!

spongebob

18/09/06 @ 10:36

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I think some MS spokesperson thought this was not going to happen (for games to run in 1080p). Here we go.

SeesThroughAll

18/09/06 @ 10:40

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I think some MS spokesperson thought this was not going to happen (for games to run in 1080p). Here we go.

Whenever a Sony spokesperson makes a wrong guess, it's because it was bullshit. Whenever a MS spokesperson makes a wrong guess, it's because what he said was "taken out of context".

Xerx3s

18/09/06 @ 10:41

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LOL at people who can't accept that developers are already producing games in HD.

Yeh, it must be really hard for ppl to accept the first HD games like VT3.

Oh well.

kangarootoo

18/09/06 @ 10:42

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Somehow, in some way, this is bad news.

I'm not sure quite how yet, but I'm sure you guys will help me with that one if you dig deep enough ;)

disc

18/09/06 @ 10:42

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Indeed. But I love them all. Especially those down to earth blogs that Microsoft runs.

Xerx3s

18/09/06 @ 10:42

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Whenever a Sony spokesperson makes a wrong guess, it's because it was bullshit. Whenever a MS spokesperson makes a wrong guess, it's because what he said was "taken out of context".

Who says he was wrong, aiming for and getting there are two different things and powerfull marketing tools. Besides, he said first year iirc (bash my head in if I'm wrong ;) ).

Darkedge

18/09/06 @ 10:45

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"Yeh, it must be really hard for ppl to accept the first HD games like VT3."

err 720p is a HD format. 1080i is a HD Format. 1080p happens to be the highest but that doesn't make VT3 the first HD title - any 360 title did that at launch LAST YEAR.

disc

18/09/06 @ 10:50

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Indeed.

Carpathian

18/09/06 @ 10:59

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edited and removed due to my stupidity and cross reading of two unrelated stories in the same news item.

Mondays, eh ? Who'd 'ave 'em !

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nickthegun

18/09/06 @ 11:02

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Somehow, in some way, this is bad news.

I'm not sure quite how yet, but I'm sure you guys will help me with that one if you dig deep enough ;)

Well, to be fair, you dont have to dig very deep.

Up to now, very few developers have managed to hit the PlayStation 3's highest single-monitor resolution, although some are hopeful of being able to do so.

Hopeful? Some developers are 'Hopeful' that they make use of one of the consoles main selling features? I bought a new car the other day because I was assured that Ford were 'Hopeful' the 5th gear would work......

I know you were being sarcastic, but despite the VT news being good (looking forward to seeing it) the rest of the article isnt massively positive.

LeDilettante

18/09/06 @ 11:05

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THAT really matters. Given how my family can't distinguish between SD and HD TV, I'm sure they'll spot the difference between 1080i and 1080p.

MaxiSleep

18/09/06 @ 11:05

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Given that the Ps3 has a 7900 gt class cpu it is not surprising that games with reasonably small environments can do 1080p (I run 2560x1600 for many games on my pc)

BUT I believe that for larger games the memory constraints will cause issues. Assuming double buffered screens you save 35MB of ram approx by going with 720p vs 1080p (assuming no aa overhead etc). And in a machine with 512mb in total that is a LOT of textures

I was surprised that both sony and Msoft did not go with 1 gig of ram for the consoles, because that would make 1080 p (or 1080i for xbox) rather easier to support in long run.

asphaltcowboy

18/09/06 @ 11:05

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Carpathian:

The "Right now the game is at 720p and we are aiming to have it reach 1080p by the time the game is wrapped," comment isn't referring to VT3 at all... it's about Resistence!

Frogger

18/09/06 @ 11:06

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I thought that all games were natively 1080p...

18/09/06 @ 11:06

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Can't you run most PC games in 1080p if you have the hardware?

The only difference is that the PS3 is a console - thusly meant to be played round the TV with a few mates (especially games like VT3).

For the price of a TV that supporst 1080p and the PS3, you could buy one hellova PC, and play a lot more games, at a lot higher res. than 1080p, at a lot higer framerates. - Go Figure.

IMO 720p/1080i is about the right price point for the current TV tech market. We are already begining to the the downside of developing for higher resolutions (unreadable text etc.). I think a lot of people on this site forget about the large majority of the market that still play their games on a SCART < 30" TV

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LeDilettante

18/09/06 @ 11:09

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I have a 720p/1080i capable display, and I won't upgrade to another HD set before donkey's years.

Thanks for the useless feature.

spongebob

18/09/06 @ 11:10

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Can't you run most PC games in 1080p if you have the hardware?

Sure, 1080p means non-interlaced (progressive) 1920x1080 resolution. You just need a telly that supports that or a video projector that is capable of showing that. Or if you want you can also use a monitor.

spongebob

18/09/06 @ 11:13

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LeDilettante: THAT really matters. Given how my family can't distinguish between SD and HD TV, I'm sure they'll spot the difference between 1080i and 1080p.

Would you like to tell us what program source have you used when you've tested your family if they can spot the difference. Also, please enlighten us what kind of a screen you have.

FluffyTucker

18/09/06 @ 11:15

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Cool, nothing wrong with future proofing something.

JediMasterMalik

18/09/06 @ 11:16

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1080p isn't really a feature, it's more of a capability. Which is NO bad thing.

Garulon

18/09/06 @ 11:17

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"Now that's really good news and seems to hint at the PS3 being quite a graphically capable beast after all especially considering how detailed both Resistance and Virtua Tennis 3 are, with the latter running at 60 fps I believe."

Well it'd have to be, otherwise it's functionally identical to 1080i, isn't it?

1080i/60 = 1080 line Frame sent in two 540 line fields, fields sent 60 times a second
1080p/60 = 1080 line Frame sent in a single 1080 line field sent 60 times a second

If they're only updating a 1080p display every other frame, that's the same visual resolution and frame rate as 1080i/60.

Stormflood

18/09/06 @ 11:18

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For the price of a TV that supporst 1080p and the PS3, you could buy one hellova PC, and play a lot more games, at a lot higher res. than 1080p, at a lot higer framerates. - Go Figure.

So you're comparing the cost of a PS3 + 1080p HDTV to a PC + cheap LCD monitor? How about comparing the cost of a shit hot PC rig to a PS3, both on the same display...

rhinoxious

18/09/06 @ 11:20

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Will the real 1080p please stand up . . .

Some questions -

1. is 1080p at 60fps, or at 30fps, no one knows yet and it makes a huge difference.
2. is it true 1080p, or like PGR3's upscaled non-720p
3. Will we see more games in 1080p over time, as the console is pushed technically, or less because as the graphical bar is pushed upwards, with games competing for the best possible 720p graphics, there actually becomes less spare power to do 1080p.

JediMasterMalik

18/09/06 @ 11:20

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I'm gonna get a 1080p LCD monitor for my PS3, only costing me a extra �550.

Plus I can use it on the PC aswell, so good all around for me. :D

LetsGo

18/09/06 @ 11:21

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Why are people shocked? The PS3 is more powerful than the 360 afterall....

rhinoxious

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"I'm gonna get a 1080p LCD monitor for my PS3, only costing me a extra �550"

Make sure it supports HDCP, otherwise you may be unable to play blu-ray discs at 1080p in the future.

FluffyTucker

18/09/06 @ 11:22

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It would be cool if it was, I love progress.

spongebob

18/09/06 @ 11:23

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Some of you people are going to have some crappy time playing fun games in the near future.

Take Garulon for instance. Sounds like he's going to be spending time counting the frames per second and doing math instead of concentrating on the game experience.

JediMasterMalik

18/09/06 @ 11:23

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@ Rhinoxius - It does, through DVI I beleive. :)

LeDilettante

18/09/06 @ 11:26

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@Spongebob

As said before, I have a Dell 720p/1080i HDTV. Looks very nice on 360 games.
I'm also subscribed to a satellite TV service provider in my country, with an HD receiver. The provider is called TPS, and is the first in our country to broadcast Live and prerecordered HD programmes. Thus I was able to enjoy Arsenal vs MU in full HD glory. But no matter how many times I pointed out to the wife how good the picture was, superior to DVD with more details and more clarity, the only thing she notices when switching from an SD to an HD channel is the picture stretching to full 16/9.

Even when they broadcast 'Desperate Housewives' in HD she just shrugged when I asked her if she could see the difference in quality.

JediMasterMalik

18/09/06 @ 11:28

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Maybe you shouldn't be asking a woman about these things. My mum still asks me how to copy and paste. :P

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Resistance being at 1080p would be very impressive indeed.

However, seeing as VT3 only has to display a maximum of 4 highly detailed characters, and is hardly a graphical powerhouse, this announcement doesn't mean very much - and is no indication in itself that a whole loadof PS3 games are going to run at 1080p.

But as I said, if Resistance can do it, then it's impressive. I doubt it will though.

rhinoxious

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Why are people shocked? The PS3 is more powerful than the 360 afterall....

I'd like the PS3 to be an amazingly powerful console, after all you'd have to be some kind of sad rabid fanboy to want something to be worse, just so that your console looks better.

What I dislike is Sony's posturing over 1080p/real HD, it's a standard that hasn't come of age yet, but sony keep trying to push it as a technical advantage over 360, it simply isn't.

It's also largely unrelated to how powerful a conso;e is, it's what you do with the pixels onscreen, not how many you have! I'd rather see an army of a 100 soldiers in 720p, fighting on a massive battlefield, then look at two tennis players, or two brawlers in 1080p.

FluffyTucker

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Women are crap though aren't they, all they seem to give a shit about is nagging and celebrities.

LeDilettante

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"But as I said, if Resistance can do it, then it's impressive."

@Eighthours

Undoubtedly. But wouldn't it be like a 'hidden' feature? How many people will be able to display it in full 1080p next March in Europe?

FluffyTucker

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I didn't think fill-rate was as big a performance hit as it used to be, certainly on my PC I don't see much of a frame rate difference between running in 1280x1024 and 1920x1440.