Halo 3 to see off PS3 News

Will it be another late night at Eurogamer towers?

"radiant with bloodlust" - excellent turn of phrase!

/applauds

laughable.

Well the conference starts at 3.15am in UK time so they could get a few hours before hand.

What would be even funnier would be if people bought a PS3 and a copy of Halo 3 to play on it as they assume the advertising is part of the launch point of sale for PS3 :)

Even if Halo 3 comes when PS3 is launched, it won't have any effect on me. I'll still buy the PS3 :P Halo 1&2 are probably the most overrated games ever (IN MY OPINION)

Stuff like this makes me sick, it's a good thing to have competition between consoles but this is just ghey school playground nonsense - I expect more from people like Bill Gates who should act in a much more responsible fashion for someone in his position.

I'd say it's more a problem H3 coming out when the PS3 arrives. Personally. But the lad has to fight his corner, I suppose.

It just shows MS, despite their bravado and dick waving, are still unnerved by what Sony may wheel out.

Halo 3 won't be enough on its own if both consoles are priced around the same level. If MS dropped price under PS3 launch price then the fun would begin.

/also imagines look on Bills face should Sony magically launch with a new Grand Theft Auto title...

Msoft do seem to have rather a militant attitude. They've also got that twit Bulmer often voicing a similar kind of belligerent rhetoric...And the even more (annoyingly) vociferous Itagaki sitting in their pocket, slagging off this and that.

I'm all for competition, but their blatant gunning-for-Sony attitude is bordering on pantomime, and sets them up for a big fall, if they're distant runner-up a second time.

Is this all part of the 'thought war' (or whatever horrendous jargonistic bollocks it was) they've apparently won?

:)

This appears to be a bit over the top to me. Are MS really putting all this confidence in to H3 already?!

/ gets well excited about 11pm tonight.

Good to see the inevitable Halo 3 confirmation albeit I'm sure bungie are slapping their collective foreheads. As for whether the sales of one would affect the other? Possibly, but not to any great degree and not in a way whereby one would undermine the other. It would also be a logistical nightmare I'd imagine.

"It would also be a logistical nightmare I'd imagine."

It would be, that is if Sony actually did an adequate day 1 ship of the PS3, which, let's face it, is unlikely... @:)

Tit. Can I have a second-er?

One game, no matter how big, is not going to stop the biggest company in the gaming industry from selling their console.

Meh!

Halo - who cares? Get over it Bill ffs it's not the be-all and end-all of gaming. I'm with you Azu87 I can take it or leave it...

You might think its childish nonense but unfortunately it does work. Look at the demolition job Sony did on the Dreamcast!

Cool your beans folks, surely we all benefit from this posturing?
Halo 3 and PS3 on the same day (or near enough) warrants an adjustment of my budget. Although PS3 will probably be out 6 months later in Europe.

Hear hear, Azu87. The irony is I bought an xbox when it came out at its initial Ł300 price-tag specifically to play halo. I've never played such an overhyped but painfully average game as halo. I don't get it and never will. After completing it, I sold my xbox but unfortunately the price had dropped in the meantime. Needless to say, I smoulder with genuine rage. So screw xbox 360 and halo3 and roll on Sony.

Dry as a bone as usual Ellie :)

I think Nintendo should release Mario Party 23 (or whatever) for GameCube when 360 launches... That will show 'em.

:-D

Seriously tho' I don't think Sony have too much to worry about just yet, especially with the proposed 360 software lineup. Most of the games seem like minor upgrades to what's already being played on XBox and I'm not sure how that will convince their existing user base its worth the upgrade... unless they launch at Ł150 with backward compatibility that is. Besides Halo 2 left a taste of bitter disappointment in the mouths of a lot fo off-line gamers, so I'm pretty sure Halo 3 won't be greeted with the same enthusiasm as Halo 2.

What most people here fail to get is that Gates isn´t saying that Halo 3 in itself will stop the PS3 dead in its tracks, but merely that when faced with the choive of getting a) a 360 with the follow up to 2 of the most critically acclaimed games of the last (current) generation, or b) a PS3 with a potentially not very impressive launch catalogue - some people might be tempted to go for the former.

Like Halo 1 & 2 or dont, but there is no denying that they are some of the absolute heavyweights in the console business - and a 3rd game is DEFINITELY going to have an impact on PS3 sales.

The key driver will still be the price point of the 360 hardware versus the PS3 when Sony launch.

The formula is:
Xbox 360 + Halo 3 Bundle = Price of PS3 hardware at launch (no game included).

That will have all the non-hardcore in their target market thinking seriously which is better value.

/cries

So PS3 customers will walk in an shop and on pure instinct buy Halo 3 instead... riiiight ... LOL!

Gates IS the new Trip Hawkins :)

The reason why this makes sense, at least for the US launch of the PS3, is that the Halo 2 launch was the biggest entertainment launch ever (or some similar phrase).

Basically Halo 2 comllected more money on its first day than any other game or film. It was massive, something like $125 million if can remember.

After it's launch the number of Xbox Live users also doubled, though they were all stupid bloody Yankie-doodle-do teenagers

So even if the whole of Eurogamer doesn't like the Halo games, the rest of the world (well the big bit that reckons it runs it and is the biggest territory in gaming) does

"So PS3 customers will walk in an shop and on pure instinct buy Halo 3 instead... riiiight ... LOL!

Gates IS the new Trip Hawkins :)"

Thanx for proving my point brilliantly. But then again life IS much more fun when you only see what you want to see, and understand what you want to understand.

Carry on.

Bit of a stupid comment.

It assumes that Bungie will actually deliver Halo 3 on time, which they never managed with 1 or 2.

Then again, I assume that if it doesn't look likley they'll make that date they could always release the game with the singleplayer in unfinished state... sorry I mean with a 'cliffhanger' ending.

But they'd never do that - would they ?!








/just sayin'

I think Mr. Gates is not that smart after all. In my opinion, the Halo's are the most overrated games in the universe, but very effectively marketet by M$, I have to give them credit for that. If only the gaming media would be a bit more hype proof. But then again, if that's what the readers want...

But if the PS3 is really way more powerful than Xbox360 (what a lousy name and I would even say that if I didn't hate M$) like rumour suggests, and Sony is able to offer it at a competative price, I think the 360 will bring even bigger losses to M$ than the current Xbox. Right now PS2 is outselling Xbox even though the hardware is less powerful and it costs more.

"or b) a PS3 with a potentially not very impressive launch catalogue"

Wow now he's psychic too.

"Like Halo 1 & 2 or dont, but there is no denying that they are some of the absolute heavyweights in the console business."

I genuinely believed that until i bought Halo2. Now i'm not bothered about part 3.

Overrated? Understatement!

;-)

phAge : You should try to wake up!

No game will hurt the launch of a major platform as the PS3 in any measurable way.. no matter how great it is. It's simply not possible.

If MS launched Xbox 360 AND Halo 3 on the same day as PS3, yes maybe... but this is not the case.

Most PS3 customers are the mainstream (like most PS2 customers are today) and they are not gonna be seduced by "a game on the other platform" as they are about to buy "the new powerfull PlayStation".
This HAS nothing to do with which console or game is the best - this is pure marketing !

Gates knows this of cource...

Hear hear, Azu87..I've never played such an overhyped but painfully average game as halo.

Amazing what marketing and group mentality can do isn't it?

After it's launch the number of Xbox Live users also doubled, though they were all stupid bloody Yankie-doodle-do teenagers

Seem more like some in-bred do-hickies.

Ten pound says Bill Gates has no idea what the bloody hell his own companies are doing, never mind Sony.

what worries me is that a title like halo 3 would only have a years worth of work on it I assume since beforethat they would have been doing halo 2? I thought halo 1 was poor and halo 2 was ok but still very over hyped. I got bored quickly anyway so pinning hopes to one game seems a little silly.

Well I'm questioning my want for a PS3 as it is, and although bringing out Halo 3 wouldn't stop me buying a PS3 it may make my decision slightly easyer.

I mean there isn't that many PS2 exclusives that pull me in, seeing as GTA will probably be on NextBox(much better than 360) there is no real point in having a PS3, when I can have all the best games and a Hard drive, Live and more features in the 360 /shudders at name


/my opinion, feel free to argue

@ IronGiant: Yeah - I guess youre right - I *do* claim to know the future. Otherwise I might have written "potentially" or something like that, to show that I am merely making an educated guess... Oh. Right.

Judging by the launch titles of the PS2, this isn´t Sonys strongest sides, and while I fully acknowledge the fact that they might have learned from the past, I see no reason whatsoever to believe that they will have a launch game to rival Halo 3.

But, again, the only people ridiculing Gates for saying that Halo 3 will kill the PS3 is - oddly enough - Sony fanb0is who need to believe that Gates is stupid enough to make such a statement.

The rest of us simply read "Halo 3 will be a major asset for the Xbox 360 in the console-war - and launching it alongside the PS3 is bound to sway a lot of potential console-buyers".

"@ IronGiant: Yeah - I guess youre right - I *do* claim to know the future. Otherwise I might have written "potentially" or something like that, to show that I am merely making an educated guess... Oh. Right."

Yeah but you had to just make that comment didn't ya, Sony now have a massive challenge to their dominance of the market and you really think for one second that they're foolish enough to risk launching what is probably their most incredibly important piece of kit for many a year with crap games? Come on. Even an XBox fanboi of your stature can't believe that.

I'm not ridiculing BG at all, he's one of the richest people on the planet for good reason, the XBox is good for gamers as it's raised the bar and competition for that space under the TV.

I personally think Halo isn't the console selling asset that people like to believe, that is all. PS3 releasing with a strong line up of games including GTA would tempt just about every gamer, chav or not!!

Am I the only person who hates HALO and every other First Person Shooter? If Xbox's killer ups are all going to be FPS then I better stay away from it.

^^^ No, there isn't a single game or genre in existence that somebody somewhere doesn't hate. And you can extend that to movies, books, albums, etc...

Regarding Halo3, I don't see the problem, it's perfect timing and a classic tactic.

Some here seem to have forgotten (or are unaware) that Sony did EXACTLY THE SAME THING with MGS2 (which some also think is overated), timing the release of their game to coincide with the launch of the XBox in 2001!!!

MGS2 didn't stop gamers who wanted an XBox from buying the console, but by releasing such a high profile game at that time, gamers were reminded that the PS2 was still a force to be reckoned with.

So whether you think Halo is overated or not doesn't matter, it's simply a high profile game timed to send the same message Sony sent with MGS2 back then.

Geez, so lighten up some of you, it's not evil and it's nothing new! ;)

GTA PS3 launch pisses over Halo3....

"But, again, the only people ridiculing Gates for saying that Halo 3 will kill the PS3 is - oddly enough - Sony fanb0is who need to believe that Gates is stupid enough to make such a statement."

Who needs to believe that Gatesy is stupid enough to make such a statement? He's gone and made it. No faith required to spot that stupidity.

MGS2 didn't stop gamers who wanted an XBox from buying the console

No, what stopped gamers from getting one was the 500 € price tag!

Heh, if Halo 3 is as good as Halo 2, then I don't think Sony have anything to worry about.

Not they ever did in the first place.

IronGiant - not to pick holes or anything, but surely if people believe it's a console-pushing asset, then it IS a console pushing asset? I think I know what you're getting at - it's a killer-app on hype and not substance. But there's no denying that it shifts consoles.

WOW! It looks like it's all gone a little WWE in here! All we need now is Gates, Kutaragi and Iwata to put on their tights and go at it in a fatal 3 way bra and panties match!

Anyway Halo 1 and 2 are without a shadow of a doubt two of the most overrated, overhyped pieces of crap I have ever had the misfourtune of playing. These 2 games along with the Project Gotham series depress me, they're awful and just the mention of the words Halo 3 and PGR 3 sends chills down my spine. (This is just my opinion don't be offended)

Will this have any affect? Only time will tell. I recall final Fantasy 8 launched on the PS1 at the time of the Dreamcast launch and it did mess Sega up a bit.

I suppose Billy boy has to do his bit, but we all know Sony will also do theirs, it's beginning to get really competitive and I expect more handbags, but I guess that's natural.

Hell, why stop there? Take a lesson from the rap world and go all "Eat side vs West side" with drive by shootings and stuff. ;)

Would fitt in perfectly with the next GTA marketing campaign.

Er, that's providing Sony does launch PS3 next spring, Bill.

snickering. hehe. maybe he knows more than Sony?

next-gen PlayStation release in Q1 2006? he is a madman!

I don't expect Sony to release the next PS before the end of 2006.

What a pack of nuts this thread has attracted.

Halo 1 didn't bruise PS2. Halo 2 didn't pop a cap in its skull either. So why do they rely on Halo 3 to finish the job?