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PS3 software tie-in ratio rubbish News
PlayStation 3 News by Games Industry.biz
Enterbrain, publisher of Famitsu, has revealed the the tie-in ratio of software to PlayStation 3 sales is 0.98 - less than one game per console.
The figure suggests that a portion of the 88,400 units sold were bought with the intention of selling on as part of the 'grey market', the unofficial channel for second hand machines via internet auctions and retail stores, which label the stock as 'used'.
As previously reported, Namco Bandai's Mobile Suit Gundam and Ridge Racer 7 were the top-selling titles, clocking up sales of around 30,000 units each.
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AtomicBanana
14/11/06 @ 13:19
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'how does one buy 0.98 of a game?! '
I dunno, many release games are 0.98 of a game ;) |
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the_sas_man
14/11/06 @ 13:20
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Maybe if Sony released the Army Men games they could make up that 0.2 of a game
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the_sas_man
14/11/06 @ 13:23
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Demand far outweighs supply, so there are a few rich idiots out there. But it certainly was overpriced, because if you are like me, you will wait till the PS3 is reduced in price before buying one.
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groovychainsaw
14/11/06 @ 13:25
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Well, the launch games didnt impress me much either, if you were that keen on most of them you'd have bought a 360 instead...
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BartonFink
14/11/06 @ 13:34
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Wasn't the tie in ratio of the PS2 far worse than this? (bad memory maybe)
That is pretty bad though. |
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In comparison, I believe the Xbox 360's game to console ratio was around 2 I believe if I remember what I read last year.
Remember it's possible that those tech-happy Japanese consumers might be buying the PS3 to watch Blu(-ray!) movies on as I recall that the PS2's launch games sold poorly in Japan when it launched in March 2000 as the Japs were buying it as a cheap (in more than one sense of the word as it turned out!) DVD player |
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chupachups
14/11/06 @ 13:48
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Of course loads of people are going to buy PS3s just to sell them on, in fact you'd be crazy not to sell it on at this stage in the game.
Cost of buying PS3 at shop in Japan = £300 Price of PS3 on ebay = £800 - £1200 Ignore the hardware, look at the money. The shops are effectively giving away £500 to £900 to anyone who can make it through the queues and lotteries. If someone manages to buy more than one, they could earn thousands of pounds in just one day. It's free money, pure and simple. If you sell your PS3 now you'll make enough money to buy loads of games as well as the console itself next year. If you don't sell your PS3 now, you're effectively paying £500 to £900 plus the cost of the console itself just to play the mediocre launch titles.
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chupachups
14/11/06 @ 13:58
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"how can you have less than 1 game per console?"
Because so many people have been buying PS3s just to sell them on Ebay without any games. Anyone with a PS3 right now can easily make hundreds of pounds profit from it, so it's incredibly tempting to sell it on. |
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Let me ready my fanboy calculator!
At $200 loss per console, 88,400 consoles = $17,680,000 lost ?! 0.98 attach ratio means 86,632 games sold ($10 profit per game?), which means they managed to recoup $866,320 - Surely this is deep in Microsoft territory for throwing money away? At the going rate of EG's London importer story (1 console + 5 games = £1500), the black market worth of PS3 so far is £2,589,600! Roll on the US launch :) |
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"Um, considering they have a great deal of interest in blue ray succeeding (and collect royalties on each disc)... i don't think it will actually - you know - fuck them."
considering the loss they are taking per console and the hope of recuperating some costs on games and accessories I think it will hurt, I cant see that they are happy about launching a games console if its only going to be used as a blu-ray player by the few techie's that will but it. Also, I’m sure the revenue generated by the games division will be more than the money generated by blu-ray movies which, lets face it, has an uphill struggle against HD-DVD |
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360 was actually 3 games to each console in North America. Once again I say, if you're going to launch with bad games you're going to have poor sales. And this is even worse as most games released for launch day do really well.
But what about the Xbox 360 in Japan? MS shipped 100,000 to Japan like Sony, and more or less shipped with similar games bar a platformer (Kameo) so surely you've got to compare Japaneese sales with Japan. |
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chupachups
14/11/06 @ 14:15
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"But what about the Xbox 360 in Japan?"
Actually the attach rate for the 360 in Japan might well be even higher than in America. The 360 sold incredibly badly there, really really badly, so there was no market at all for scalpers, anyone who wanted a 360 in Japan could just go into a shop and buy one. The few people who bought a 360 in japan did it purely for the games because what other reason could there be? The console wasn't fashionable, it wasn't profitable to sell on. |
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"Why didn't Sony only sell their PS3s in Japan in bundles with one or two games?"
They don't want their console to get the reputation of costing more than it already is? The main focus of Sony should be: get as many of these things installed and the software sales will follow. I am sure whoever ends up with these consoles via the grey market will buy lots of upcoming software.
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Royal Fool
14/11/06 @ 14:42
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The large majority weren't buying it as a multimedia hub or or a cheaper Blu-ray player. They bought it to sell it on ebay, Yahoo or other places. That's why the scalpers did not buy software along with the units - they would do so elsewhere, seperately to either bundle with their overpriced auctions or to sell seperately online.
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rhinoxious
14/11/06 @ 14:52
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I can't see why anyone would pay so much money for a PS3 now.
Surely the price of ebay PS3s must come down once the bulk of the available stock hits the US market on Friday. It's only a week to wait! |
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monkey-ken-wizard
14/11/06 @ 15:34
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Namco Bandai's Mobile Suit Gundam looks shocking.
I feel for those 30,000 people. |
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PearOfAnguish
14/11/06 @ 16:16
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Namco Bandai's Mobile Suit Gundam looks shocking.
I feel for those 30,000 people. It's Japan. You could sell people fresh, runny dogshit over there if it had the Gundam logo on it. |
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"But what about the Xbox 360 in Japan?"
"Actually the attach rate for the 360 in Japan might well be even higher than in America. " If memory serves, the 360 had a very similar attach rate to the PS3's launch - in other words something around 0.91% (though I cant find a decent link to support that). The reason was most likely e-bayers. With the 360 initially in short supply (in America) there was plenty opportunity for Japanese consumers to flog their hardware to desperate westerners for a tidy profit. If you read Kotaku's recent article about this you'll see its not something that has anything to do with the quality of available games or the consoles added features. |
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Inflatable
14/11/06 @ 16:53
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Very bad news for Sony, because it means they're losing a lot of money on each PS3 sold and not making up for it thru gamesales..
http://news.com.com/Microsoft+exec+lauds... Xbox 360 game attachrate was close to 4 at the end of 2005.. So I have no idea why some here are saying it did just as bad as the PS3 now.. Maybe they are in denial the Xbox 360 'might' actually do better then the PS3.. |
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Batman2100
14/11/06 @ 16:56
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Surely the attach rate will go up, once those people with far too much money have got thier consoles from Ebay and buy games for them. You gotta realise, the PS3's bought purely to be resold haven't reached thier final owners yet, hey'll buy the games once they've got the hardware, then we'll get a clearer picture...
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BartonFink
14/11/06 @ 17:06
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Yea had a look at those Mobile Suit Gundam videos and it looks like a bad port of a bad PS2 game, truly awful.
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