Nintendo Revolution details

By Ellie Gibson Published 13 May, 2005

Backwards and DVD compatible.

Now that we've all had a chance to see and admire / slag off the Xbox 360's design, Nintendo has offered the first hints as to what its next-generation console will look like.

The New York Times quotes Perrin Kaplan, Nintendo's vice president for corporate affairs, as saying the Revolution console will be "very, very sleek".

She went on to reveal it will be horizontal, and no taller than a pile of three DVD cases.

Kaplin also confirmed that the Revolution will play DVDs, and work with wireless controllers. There will be a focus on high definition, online games, and the console will be backwards compatible with GameCube games.

Well now. It all sounds very interesting, but there's still a while to wait before we find out just how sleek the Revolution really is - rumour has it that Nintendo won't be debuting the console at next week's E3, preferring to show a few rolling demos of in-game footage instead. Boo.

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  • effinwooly #1 7 years ago

    DVD compatibale eh !! Well i'm sold !

    *meh*

  • Dizzy #2 7 years ago

    Will it have 3rd party support this time? That is the only thing that I want to know.

  • #3 7 years ago

    will it have nintendo games, that's what I want to know !!!

    If yes, sold.

  • mattigan #4 7 years ago

    3cm tall is all well and good, but what if its 3 foot wide!!

  • lost_soul #5 7 years ago

    "3cm tall is all well and good, but what if its 3 foot wide!!"

    It'd make a good ironing board?

  • Sid-Nice #6 7 years ago

    3cm tall is all well and good, but what if its 3 foot wide!! Imagine a 3cm tall Xbox?

  • drumbaby #7 7 years ago

    So Xbox 360 is the same size as the old PS2, the Revolution as the new slimline PS2.

    So (my) logic dictates that the PS3's size will be half way between the old GCN/ Xbox in return?

  • chacha #8 7 years ago

    meh

  • tiddles #9 7 years ago

    Nintendo Revolution - able to leap 3 DVD cases in a single bound!

  • skalmanxl #10 7 years ago

    Well, since it's got a DVD-playback function, it might appeal to the general public. Now it just needs games that the general public wants to play as well.

  • Kiigan #11 7 years ago

    I wonder if there's any point.

    I'm all for more competition if the market can support it... but really, aside from a handful of excellent first and second party titles, was there any actual point to the GameCube or N64? Both died at retail way before their time.

    Do we really need 3 new similarly specced boxes under our tellies that all do the same thing, only slightly differently? As much as I like Nintendo's games, if three new expensive pieces of hardware appear on the shelves in the same 12-month period, most people will choose just one of them for their Xmas pressies. Is it likely they'll choose the Nintendo offering, after the way GameCube went?
    Edited by 1 at 13/05/05 @ 18:09

  • chacha #12 7 years ago

    most of the general public wil aready have a dvd player - the dvd playback facility is no longer an enticement for the general buying public as it was when the ps2 and xbox where released imo - not many people had dvd players 4-5 years ago but now most people will so dvd playback not all that special, its a bit of a given.
    As for backward compatibility who really cares, seeing as you can pick up a gamecube for less that a full priced game

  • chacha #13 7 years ago

    bump - kiigan

  • Derblington #14 7 years ago

    Those of us with Cube games already.

  • chacha #15 7 years ago

    "Those of us with Cube games already."

    What you mean all three of them ;)

  • Huxley #16 7 years ago

    Meh, meh, meh.

    I don't know what the "Revolution" is going to be on this console, I can guess that Nintendo is going to be another also-ran in the next generation.

    What I really want to see is them DO-A-SEGA (tm) and start concetrating on software, which is where their real talent lies.

    I'll be really happy with an XBOX 360 and then a 720 that runs the latest Mario/Link games!

    EDIT: Namn illiteracy!
    Edited by 1 at 13/05/05 @ 13:27

  • chacha #17 7 years ago

    i tell you waht the revolution is going to be - nintendo will release the new console with dvd playback facility, backward compatibility, useless connectivity to your GBA & DS and a piss poor live service

    thats the revolution people, watch the Nintedo fanboys lap it up

  • DaM #18 7 years ago

    If it has DVD playback then surely the pirates will crack it? Are there not GC roms knocking about? One lesson they have learned from Sony and M$ then!

  • Galvanizer #19 7 years ago

    Cool!

    It can play DVD's! Will it play VCD's as well?

  • jumpdeveraux #20 7 years ago

    /crosses concern it is thicker than 3 DVD cases off his Revolution worry list

  • spazmo #21 7 years ago

    "rumour has it that Nintendo won't be debuting the console at next week's E3, preferring to show a few rolling demos of in-game footage instead. Boo."

    Showing off games instead of hyping hardware!!?? What morons!!

  • IronGiant #22 7 years ago

    So BGiE now owes some folks here a lot of cash seeing the bet he foolishly made.

  • fkh #23 7 years ago

    I wouldn`t be surprised if Nintendo start to combine their games-division with their supposed move into the movie-business.

    Could be a good reason for why they include DVD-playback.

    Revolution Zelda-game with Zelda-movie in limited edition package, anyone?

  • Khab #24 7 years ago

    rumour has it that Nintendo won't be debuting the console at next week's E3, preferring to show a few rolling demos of in-game footage instead. Boo.

    So, er, showing actual GAME footage instead of what the box that plays the games looks like gets a boo?

    Not from me, it don't.

  • Singularity #25 7 years ago

    /crosses concern it is thicker than 3 DVD cases off his Revolution worry list

    That's worth a lol.

    So, lol.

    (: ))

  • Hunam85 #26 7 years ago

    By revolution, do they mean an internal one leading to some much needed conformity on nintendo's part

  • mattigan #27 7 years ago

    I prefer to wait and see what they all have to offer before making my choice, I may wind up buying all 3. But I certainly wont be rubbishing anything before I've actually seen it!!

  • Tweakmonkey #28 7 years ago

    So BGiE now owes some folks here a lot of cash seeing the bet he foolishly made.

    Irongiant - what did BGie say?

  • ring_piece #29 7 years ago

    I agree with mattigan.

    No one has seen 'Revolution' yet.

    So far, it sounds at least as capable as Xbox 360, but they still haven't said anything about it yet.

    I'll judge it when I see it.
    Edited by 1 at 13/05/05 @ 14:54

  • jumpdeveraux #30 7 years ago

    If it was as capable as 360 in hi def and online I'd expect a better countering term than 'focus'. They can't say outirght it's better or equal to MS offering meaning it in all likelihood isn't.

  • ElephantMonkey #31 7 years ago

    I love the way Nintendo acts.
    Nintendo back in the N64 days: "Cartridges good! Optical media BAD!" ... come next-gen Nintedo uses Optical media in its gamecube.
    Nintendo back in the gamecube starting days: "Consoles shouldn't play DVDs they should be strictly game machines" ... come next-gen Revolution plays DVDs.

  • gizmo #32 7 years ago

    hehe, Sooooooooooooooo last generation..

    'Me too' springs to mind.

  • IronGiant #33 7 years ago

    He wagered that Nintendo wouldn't release another 'home console' or words to that effect. At least one person took that wager.

  • Tweakmonkey #34 7 years ago

    BGiE is a knob. Nintendo won't die until it dies in Japan, and that's not gonna happen for the foreseeable future.

  • Sko #35 7 years ago

    As with every Nintendo product launch, you get the usual fools forseeing doom and saying they should give up. It's got to the point where it's actually become traditional.

    I only wish my bank balance saw half the 'doom' Ninty's did... :(

  • #36 7 years ago

    Aren't Square-Enix 'coming back into the Nintendo fold' with the DS/Rev? Compare that with Square-Enix's response on XBOX360: 'sorry mate - not interested'.

    As always, it's all about the games.

    Heard a lot about the (admittedly excellent-looking) 360 but not much about the games.

    I would never write off Nintendo. I think the DS/GBA experience shows that when Nintendo build a great product (which they invariably do) and actually MARKET/ADVERTISE the thing - the people come.

  • absolutezero #37 7 years ago

    1. The Gamecube has made Nintendo money

    2. The Xbox lost Microsoft a hell of alot of money.


    So which one lost and which one was a success again?
    Edited by 1 at 13/05/05 @ 15:54

  • Tweakmonkey #38 7 years ago

    I think the real losers are those people who upgrade too soon. This gen is hitting it's peak and I'm happy to ride the wave for a while yet. Early adopters are just suckers.

  • AOFanboi #39 7 years ago

    That there sounds like something with the same features as the XBox 360, except a) It won't look like Apple designed it, and b) it will be backward compatible, whereas Microsoft MIGHT emulate the old XBox at some point.

  • teabagger #40 7 years ago

    "1. The Gamecube has made Nintendo money

    2. The Xbox lost Microsoft a hell of alot of money.

    So which one lost and which one was a success again?"


    Oh come on, MS never expected to make a bean from the XBox, it was purely about getting themselves into a position where they could challenge Sony and Nintendo with the next round of hardware. They have acheived that goal, have placed themselves in a strong position and have everything in place that they need to go head-to-head with the PS3. Claiming it was a failure because it made no money just shows a real lack of understanding on your part.

  • terminalterror #41 7 years ago

    "I only wish my bank balance saw half the 'doom' Ninty's did... :("

    I'd settle for 1%

  • absolutezero #42 7 years ago

    Claiming the Cube as a failure is just as near sighted.

    For the most part I see this console war mainly taking part in the heads of Microsoft executives and fanboys.

    Not to say that Nintendo has no intention of competing but I think its just not such a huge priority as delivering something special.

    I know it seems like a stupid thing to say in this day and age but Nintendo really are interested in making games more than tons of cash.

    When Microsoft moved into the console market I never saw them doing so for any other reason other than to make money. The software backed that up, the Xbox has added absolutely nothing new to gaming.

    I was talking to someone the other day that basically came to the same conslusion. What the point int he Xbox? Would things have been any different if it had'nt been made, would videogames have changed? The answer is no, nothing has changed at all, most Xbox games are derivative and aimed at the lowest common denominator.

  • #43 7 years ago

    MS never expected to make a bean from the XBox, it was purely about getting themselves into a position where they could challenge Sony and Nintendo with the next round of hardware. They have acheived that goal

    I've heard this oft-repeated argument so many times. But really, why are MS in a better position now after having lost hundreds-of-millions whereas Nintendo, having made a profit and possessing a wealth of IP and experience, is judged to be in an inferior position?

    It just sounds so bizarre.

    The only advantage I see this time with 360 is that MS possibly have a 6 months headstart. As I said before, 360 looks good but that is only so much window-dressing - the PS2 looked, for want of a better word, crap but still succeeded. Why? Because as well as launching a full 18 months before the GC, it had the cream of the software development talent behind it. I'm talking about names like Square-Enix, Capcom, Konami, Namco on the Japanese side and publishers like EA and Activision on the Western side. Many developing/publishing exclusively for PS2.
    Edited by 2 at 13/05/05 @ 17:11

  • meggsy #44 7 years ago

    DVD compatibilityis pretty essential, even with most people having a dvd player in some form (computer, console, stand-alone unit) many gamers would see a non-dvd revolution as Nintendo being stupid and stubborn, not learning from mistakes etc, and the general public would see it as lacking because of it. I remember dixons leaflets comparing the Gamecube, Xbox and PS2, and the big red 'X' next to DVD playback where the other to had a green tick certainly swayed the parents of many kids into buying a console that they assumed to be more adult as it has technology they could also use in the console.

  • Tweakmonkey #45 7 years ago

    /shudders at the thought of buying a console in Dixons

  • Kiigan #46 7 years ago

    The millions that Microsoft has spent on Xbox hasn't been "lost". It's won them significant market share. It's money well spent, and Microsoft can easily afford it. Short-term profitability means fuck all to companies like Microsoft. The fact that Nintendo may have profited from the GameCube hardly matters - they've lost market share and saw their console die at retail almost as quickly as it arrived, not to mention thirdparty developers fleeing from both the GameCube and the GBA.

    I don't subscribe to the "Nintendo are screwed" hysteria you read on forums - Nintendo are very good at making money, especially with Pokemon, and milking old franchises. And the DS is doing well, which is great. However it's completely nonsensical to claim that the Cube was a bigger success than Xbox because it lost Nintendo less money - go out to the high street and try to buy a GameCube game, and then tell me how successful the GameCube is.
    Edited by 1 at 13/05/05 @ 18:17

  • ProfessorLesser #47 7 years ago

    Those who are saying Nintendo are playing tag-along with DVD support and optical media would be the first to nay-say them for sticking to their guns.

    Can't Nintendo learn from their mistakes? Can you see Nintendo focusing on their DVD playback? Will this detract from their software development? Interesting...

    This sounds like positive play from Nintendo. I don't even want to see the console.

  • Burton2000 #48 7 years ago

    go to www.nintendo.co.uk it sez there nintendo revolution games will b on a double layered DVD disk and that disks are self loading. does self loading meen the drive will come out like on a pc?

  • ElephantMonkey #49 7 years ago

    Since when did Gamecube bring lots of profit to Nintendo? I always thought sales of hardware and games were really low in every territory. I'm not sure about this but I believe Nintendos income comes from its handhelds (GB GBA are still selling like crazy).

  • gerg #50 7 years ago

    Straight from Nintendo's mouth:

    'In its final form, Revolution will be about the thickness of three standard DVD cases and only slightly longer. The versatile Revolution will play either horizontally or vertically, allowing the user total flexibility in setting up a gaming session wherever they have a television.

    Thanks to Nintendo's hardware development partners IBM and ATI, the small system will be packed with power that will enable it to wow players with its graphics. Nintendo's legions of loyal fans will be happy to learn that Revolution will be backward compatible, playing both Nintendo GameCube 3-inch disks along with its own standard, double-layered DVD disks in the same self-loading media drive.

    In the next generation, the addition of the Internet will be important to all consoles and particularly important to Nintendo. Revolution will be wireless Internet ready out of the box.'

    Having just read that... imagine how small that is. It's gonna be titchy! Predicts VERY suprised faces.
    Edited by 1 at 13/05/05 @ 20:59

  • absolutezero #51 7 years ago

    >>Since when did Gamecube bring lots of profit to Nintendo?

    Since Nintendo created and made most of the internal components themselves saving millions onbuying the rights to various pieces of kit and saving money in general on the production of the console.

    The Xbox is a very expensive console to produce, meaning that when Microsoft cut the price of the console to compete with the Gamecube, they basically lost more money than they brought in.

  • #52 7 years ago

    imo its between ps3 and xb360.. i can see nintendo market share lessen with each console, an dless on the handhelds with PSP, and what if MS decides to bring out a handheld too?

  • L0cky #53 7 years ago

    Hmm.. thinking about the size, it seems like either a joke or it'll look like a stick.

    About 2 inches high, 2-4 inches long. So how wide is it?

  • gerg #54 7 years ago

    ...good point - I hadn't though of it's depth. Hmmm...

  • Cregser #55 7 years ago

    I think self loading would mean that it spits the DVDs out and sucks them in - if you've ever seen a CD player in a car (not the boot storage ones). I've always prefered that to loading trays. It would make sense to save space in the console too. The small console is (for me) a reason to buy it over Xbox. And I believe it satisfies Japanesse who like their stuff small.

    I don't know why Nintendo chose DVD playback now (especially entering an era when Sony is trying to push Blu-Ray). But its better than nothing.

    All these people slagging the name 'Revolution'. The last console was code named 'Dolphin', released as 'StarCube' and quickly changed to 'GameCube'. So don't take Nintendo literally on names.

    If Xbox360 ain't out till Xmas and Revolution and PS3 roughly 6months after that. Aren't we all prematurely excited about these consoles??? Or is it because we've gone as far as we can without an E3?

  • stormcr0wfleet #56 7 years ago

    you guys might just be intrested in this video link.. some people are saying its fake.. some people are sayings its real, all im going to say is that as an idea, its a Revolution!.

    http://onefed. com/media/NintendoON.wmv

  • Nikanoru #57 7 years ago

    @stormcr0wfleet: I'm going to go out on a limb and say that video is made by the same guy who did the "celshaded Mario on GBA" video. Why? Don't know, just a hunch.

    I certainly don't think it's real, the "ingame" parts look a tad too amateuristic for that.

    Damn awesome video though, heh.

  • stormcr0wfleet #58 7 years ago

    I dont know, i surpose if i think about it.. i would agree and say it was faked. But then nitendo is the only games company that has the bottle to bring somthing like this out (remember the virtual boy). they tryed it back in the early 90's and it flopped... perhaps the tech has moved on enough now for it to suceed?. Hell that 6min video gets me more excited than the xbox360 teaser from OC and i for one WOULD buy it if it ever came to being. I really wish it is the revolution, beacuse we really need somthing more in this next generation than just better graphics and faster framerates.

  • Nikanoru #59 7 years ago

    (delete doesn't seem to work)
    Edited by 1 at 14/05/05 @ 07:07

  • Nikanoru #60 7 years ago

    Yes, it does get me excited as well, but now that I think of it, it's definitely fake. Just read the official announcement about the console's dimensions, then look at the video again. ;)

    Too bad though.

  • gerg #61 7 years ago

    The video doesn't work for me. What was it anyway?

  • regmund #62 7 years ago



    If some Nintendo spokesperson has used the name 'Revolution' ....does this mean that that this is the OFFICIAL name for the console?

  • #63 7 years ago

    "If some Nintendo spokesperson has used the name 'Revolution' ....does this mean that that this is the OFFICIAL name for the console?"

    Eh, no.

  • Burton2000 #64 7 years ago

    wow just watched that video and looks quite interesting if that wud be possible liked the look of the metroid bit. but chances are its not real.shame really

  • redd #65 7 years ago

    people on xbox 360 dvd: "buu thats no next gen stuff... 9gb per disc? hahah sony pwns M$ bigtime!".

    people on revolution dvd: "way to go Nintendo! hurray!".

    I currently have the most respect for microsoft, mainly because it cares about european consumers. We will get X360 a merely 7 days after the US launch, not almost a year after (PSP anyone?). Sony is already showing its limitations...

    As for nintendo, i used to be a big fan but i also dont like how they treat us europeans, i had to wait like 1 year to get my hands on animal crossing and i'm getting sick of all the rehashes comming out, for a company known for its awesome first party they can't seem to have any killer app going on for DS... I guess we'll have to wait for E3.

    I also dont see anything new on PSP, they should port the original prince of persia to it, then maybe you could finish a game before the batteries run out, that would be a revolution!.

  • Nithron #66 7 years ago

    "If it has DVD playback then surely the pirates will crack it?"

    While piracy decreases sales of legal software, and therefore profitability, i should think it actually INCREASES sales of hardware - Consumers are presumably more likely to buy a console if they know they can get games for a fiver, or for free, albeit illegally and using a modded console.

    Is it not possible that the poor hardware sales of the Gamecube, in comparison to that of it's competitors, was partly due to the difficulty of gamecube piracy? So making it easier to copy the games... might increase sales of Revolution hardware.

  • gerg #67 7 years ago

    redd: I'll think you'll find the responses different becuase of the fact that this is quite a big step for Nintendo. If the rumours of how good the internet service provided is are true, then Nintendo would have a somewhat multi-media console, and that is a big step for them.

  • Toonster #68 7 years ago

    Cool video, but as others wrote, I think it's a fake.

    Some people might be surprised when I say I don't think the DVD would be good. In fact, I think it's completely unnecessary.This is Nintendo, people! Nintendo is all about gaming. And gaming only. Having a DVD on a Nintendo system is very un-nintendo. Although I love Nintendo to bits, I say leave the DVD stuff to Sony. Does anyone agree with me on this, or is everyone gonna start flaming me?

  • ElephantMonkey #69 7 years ago

    ----------
    absolutezero wrote :
    "Since Nintendo created and made most of the internal components themselves saving millions onbuying the rights to various pieces of kit and saving money in general on the production of the console. "
    ----------

    could I be reminded which component of cube Nintendo created itself? Is it the cpu? nope IBM's. The graphics chip...?.. nope ATIs. The memory chips?... no. The sound chip then? ...no Macronix's. It must be the optical drive then? nope Matsushita's...

  • pinhead #70 7 years ago

    Nintendo create great software, and the gamecube platform was sublime in comparison to the behemoth XBox and dull PS2. Don't get me wrong I do own other consoles, but I know that if I am after quality rather the quantity then ninty are the platform to head towards. This round though I will play it safe and wait for the first round of price drops before dipping my toe in the next generation.

  • gerg #71 7 years ago

    Toonster: True, I'm feeling that the DVD playability is a very forced decision, like smiling whilst gritting your teeth. I also feel that it's uneeded, and I've always stuck to Nintendo becuase they're all about JUST games. Now, it's like the world is turned on its head. But I still think Nintendo are the right place to go, like seeing Star Wars Episodes I and II, just because you know they'll lead on to Episode III.

    Anyway, I just watched the video, and I don't care whether or not it's fake. To me, it's amazing anyway. But I did think that Mario would be shorter.

  • mc808 #72 7 years ago

    All that has been said is that the games wil be on dvd format discs.

  • ElephantMonkey #73 7 years ago

    "Kaplin also confirmed that the Revolution will play DVDs"

    If they are out to confuse us then maybe it won't play DVD-Video. But to the average guy when he hears something plays DVDs he immediatly thinks of playing DVD-Video.

  • Nikanoru #74 7 years ago

    If it already plays DVD media, there is absolutely no reason not to include movie playback, because all the components to do it are already there.

    It will play DVD movies.


    And imagine if it wouldn't, hypothetically, then it would be cracked to play them within a couple of months.

  • Cregser #75 7 years ago

    Nikanoru, to play DVD movies Nintendo would have to pay a license fee for every console capable of doing so. It's because DVDs use MPEG2 which uses patented methods that the owners want to charge everybody for. That's why Xbox doesn't play DVDs out of the box.

    That said, I'm also assuming Revolution plays DVD movies. They have 2 chips being developed for the console codenamed "Hollywood" and "Broadway". This has lead to rumours about Nintendo entering the the movie business in some fashion.

  • Nikanoru #76 7 years ago

    I guess that's true, but even still, I'm sure the sales gained by casual gamers and moms because of DVD playback will far outweigh any licensing costs.

    I'd be very surprised not to see it.

  • gerg #77 7 years ago

    I'm all for backwards compatibility, don't get me wrong, I'm just saying that Nintendo has been acknowleged, even by Ninty haters, that they're good becuase they do JUST games. Although another DVD player isn't gonna do damage, it feels forced and there for the sake of being there.

  • Kami #78 7 years ago

    To those who think Nintendo should go software only: yeah, Sega have been doing some STERLING games since they stopped hardware... *sigh* Yeah, blatant sarcasm. Sega's work always seemed so "right" on their systems, now they just seem to be raping their franchises - so far managing to destroy Sonic in literally one poor game (and crapping all over my memories - thanks Sega!), and just a string of "so-so" games. The only really top Sega stuff from recent memory are the conversions... which is a bit heartbreaking...

    Nintendo are in no danger of having to go "software only" - their system, their rules. And despite one or two down points, there are actually a lot of excellent games on the 'Cube. Nintendo Revolution? I'm not so much hoping for a revolution in technical terms, as just in marketing terms... Nintendo do NOT do a bad job, so let's skip the typical, "Nintendo is cr*p" rubbish because it doesn't wash anymore - Nintendo have done a good job and they're in profit. I just hope perhaps for a little more marketing power, and some better third-party support... that's all I'd ask for, and I'd sign up for the new Nintendo console right now.

    Now off for a "Night in with the Mates"... controllers, microphones and bongos at the ready...

  • Xerx3s #79 7 years ago

    And here i was, having high hopes for nintendo showing new inovative ideas. Sorry nintendo, but M$ beat you to it.

    "I'm all for more competition if the market can support it... but really, aside from a handful of excellent first and second party titles, was there any actual point to the GameCube or N64? Both died at retail way before their time. "

    Err, hate to break your balls mate, but the N64 was one of the best consoles ever and it still sold games by the time the ps2 came out. Anyway, it was way better than nything that came from sony.

  • drumbaby #80 7 years ago

    LOL!

  • swedish_furniture #81 7 years ago

    "low-power operation" perhaps theyre planning to make it portable, seems small enough if they added a screen and battery? Like on long car journeys an all

  • Kay #82 7 years ago

    Has anyone actually considered that the 'Revolution' could be tied in with Nintendo's plans to move into the novie business? If that's the case, then the Revolution will definitely be a multimedia console.

    In fact, that may well be the revolution itself - the fact that Nintendo's new console has more multimedia features than Microsoft or Sony's.

  • starmonkey #83 7 years ago

    "Do we really need 3 new similarly specced boxes under our tellies that all do the same thing, only slightly differently?"

    I understand the dilemma, but competition is good. Just look at AMD/Intel. It drives down prices and drives on innovation.

  • louyfitz #84 7 years ago

    My opinion is that the N64 was the best console Nintendo ever made, I mean I still play SSB and Goldeneye, you don't see me going back to my PS1.

    The GC was not a crap console, it was the games that let it down.
    The N64 had fun games that is why I still play it.
    EDIT: No online was the other let down.
    Edited by 1 at 16/05/05 @ 13:57

  • Flaezk #85 7 years ago

    First of all, the N64 was great! It had fantastic games, for example - both Mario 64 and Zelda: Ocarina of Time set a standard in 3rd person gaming when they came, and so, I think, did Goldeneye in 1st person gaming.
    Second, the Cube is still great. No one can play the Metroid or Zelda games and say that they're bad, because they're great!

    Now, the Revolution:
    Maybe there is something that Nintendo hasn't revealed yet? I mean, they have been VERY quiet about the specs and they don't say ANYTHING about the controllers! Perhaps they are creating something totally new, something that actually IS a revolution?
    I think that we shouldn't judge Nintendo before we really get to know what they're up to...

  • teabagger #86 7 years ago

    Much as I hope the Revolution is indeed a revolution and that Nintendo have a successful future, I think claiming the N64 was great and had fantastic games is stretching the truth somewhat. O.k so Goldeneye set a standard for console FPPS and Mario was great but on the whole there was very little worth buying in Europe. As a result the N64 went down in history as the perfect example of PAL territories getting a shit deal from Nintendo, and rightly so. The 'cube has had some decent games, but the big problem for them has been the huge gaps between releases... Metroid was highly polished but hardly groundbreaking, Mario was decent, Zelda obviously, Res Evil 4... maybe one or two others but on the whole they've still failed to hold Joe Publics attention because the killer apps come round so rarely. This time round they need a successful product with a more consistant release of good software otherwise they'll become known for occupying the bottom spot and risk loosing market share.

    I also think there's a danger in launching hardware that is underpowered compared to the competition. Yes yes, I know power doesn't automatically equal better games but the fact is the most people do believe that, they'll see the specs and decide that the Revolution is the inferior product. They won't want a product that people percieve to be the poor-mans PS3.