E3: Sony meant to set Killzone expectations high - Harrison News

We'll see. Not long now.

Yes. There is such a thing as setting expectations too high, Phil.

Sooo they set them astronomically high with that rendered trailer way back when, and then knocked them right back down to Earth with that pretty poor picture yesterday.
Have any sites commented on the Killzone 2 presentation yet? Wasn't it supposed to occur just a couple of hours after MS's conference?

And you failed. Because that wasn't just high, that was beyond what you can do on any computer in the next 5 years.

When's the embargo over, then?

Poor GG, nothing like that sort of horrendous pressure to make you really mess up.

Okay, a bit will push them on, but they must really be sweating under the ridiculous way they're game has been hyped to mars and back.

"...with Guerrilla telling journalists that the demo shown on Tuesday evening drew upon virtually all of the PS3's many important capabilities..."

So has this demo happened then? And why did GG have to tell people it looked great? ;)

It cant be that great of they are not allowed to talk about it!

Obviously more Sony Hyperbole!

Come on Sony show us why your system is worth 400 notes!

There is that word 'plans' again!

Naughty!

They must have something very impressive to show off at E3 with these claims... otherwise they will be slaughtered by the media and gamers.

Haha, talking about raising expectations to gamers is just asking a big bunch of them to turn around and say "But I expected it to hand-deliver the pizza to my door as I killed Super-Blob-X"

... I want pizza.

So what happened at the unveiling? The special invite-only showing of the game that supposedly occurred a few hours ago??? Or am I sadly mistaken?

I think Phil Harrison has relapsed into the press release muck-ups that happened at launch.

The long and the short. Welcome back ye pre-rendered cut scenes (now with added blue ray hi-def). Graphics as good as gears of war. Textures that simply don't fit into memory leaving the need to use clip mapping and copy level data to the hard drive to make it viable.

Heck the Halo 3 trailer looked like your basic generic FPS and look at the hype the press is giving that!

spill the beans

Bullcrap Phil. A fake render will only cause backlash, not understanding.

This is why E3 without the real people is just a bogus information hive. Real people would look at these games and give a collective Meh! If the press have been asked not to reveal what they saw at the Sony event, then the only reason can be that it simply wasn't impressive.

I should add that having been in these situations first hand, the PR people then go to town to try to get the press to spin the story their way i.e put everything in a positive light. Look out for such phrases as "this was early code" and "feature X is likely to improve before release" etc. etc.

"Heck the Halo 3 trailer looked like your basic generic FPS and look at the hype the press is giving that!"

There's a bit of a difference between the press hyping a game and Mr. Sony hyping his own games. That's all.

Sony meant to set Killzone expectations high - Harrison

lol. This is not going to end well. Expectations can be set too high. I think Killzone 2 will be an example of that.

One thing I just noticed... even though it was MS's conference, there are nearly as many sony articles up today.

Makes me think Sony planned to release all these little tidbits (useless though they are) purely to steal some thunder from MS.

They need not have bothered, MS was barely as loud as my Rice Crispies today, with their lacklustre presentation. (Good games, though)

I call shenanigans on the pic yesterday.

There is clearly some managing of expectations going on here, and I think that the pic was a bit of a smokescreen TBH, actually meant to look a bit ropey as what it pictured was the player looking at a poster on a wall and not an in game model, but this is not immediately apparent from the EG gallery which dosen't show the edges of the actual screenshot (that clearly show the stickytape atatching the poster to the wall).

Sony really need to wow the crowd with this and it would be suicide if K2 turned out lookng shit.

I was as sceptical as anyone at the 2005 footage and still don't think reality will match the render, but it needs to be at least marginally close or there will be uproar.

The_Xbot_Hunter: Even though I hate your nick, that was an interesting read and sound like what I would expect.

The Joystiq preview that is, the IGN one is filled with hyperbole.

One level takes 2 gig of disc space...IGN are raving about the 15 minutes they've already played.

Looks like E3 2005 wasn't as BS fuelled as previously thought.

IGN will rave if MS or Sony explode a chicken using a gameport. Certainly the screens don't showcase the wealth of background level detailing they purport, it looks like GRAW.

Still, wouldn't mind seeing it in action,

I like the depth of field on the gun. Its little things like that, that get me giddy :)

Thx for the links xbot_hunter. Hoping for a vid to see for myself now.

EDIT:
@disc - The Joystick page frustrated me. Especially since the author didn't finish some of his sentences!

Sweet mother almighty reading the IGN preview, if this is our expectations crashing down to earth sign me up to next gen now!!

Ooh for those interested, from IGN:

"Want to see the game for yourself? Head to the PlayStation Network at 3pm PST on Wednesday and you'll find a brand-spanking-new trailer waiting there for you."

EDIT: Anyone know what that is BST?

exceed the original "footage"?

i think not baldy.

http://kotaku.com/gaming/e307/killzone-2...

Bizarrely contradicting the Joystiq one on facial animation.... still curious about seeing this one in action, as the Joystiq screens don't look all that brilliant to me. Not that I really give a monkeys, mind you, as I'll never be able to afford a PS3.....

They'll have to do a LOT better than that poor screenshot, and they'd better, or I predict a lot of returned PS3s suddenly.

@ sanctusmortis

"They'll have to do a LOT better than that poor screenshot, and they'd better, or I predict a lot of returned PS3s suddenly. "

Why you still talkin about that screenshot? all the news stories are starting to come in on Killzone 2 at E3. - Do you really thikn that 1 screenshot will prompt people to return their machines???? Come ON!

http://www.1up.com/do/previewPage?cId=31...

1UP preview. They're not as impressed as IGN, but they still liked what they saw.

http://blog.wired.com/games/2007/07/kill...

It is intense.. What can the PS3 do and 360 cant?

Yeah, found that link like ten mins ago, still not loaded. Yipes!

http://www.gametrailers.com/player/21490...

The Trailer is here....be excited.....

what can ps3 do 360 cant...well play blu rays, have games utilise the hdd, 7.1 sound, 1080p hdmi as standard, connect wirelesy out of box, not wake the nieghbours with its fan, motion control.... ok so games are thin on ground at moment but there coming, oh and it will probably not break so much, just how may of the 12milillion 360's shipped are because of returns?

The trailer initially excited me, then I realised it was the direction and particle effects that were providing the wow. The animation's pretty solid, but the game looked like Graw meets GOW. Beautiful weather effects though. I'd need to see more!

Sony said at E3 2005...this is what Killzone 2 will look like.

Just seen the new footage...they haven't delivered what they said they would.

simple

In what aspect didn't they deliver?

The trailer is impressive, looks better than I thought it would. Not as good as the pre-render, like most people will point out, but it's not that far from it. As for gameplay, well, who can tell. Until you play it for yourself, you won't know. This does look more atmospheric but all these war shooters 'feel' the same in trailers and I find it hard to get excited by yet another one. It has got me excited enough to wanna play the thing and see for myself though, which is more than most do.

Incidentally I thought the first Killzone was pants.

My you be cast forever bald if your claims don't stand up Mr Harison.

...oh

I hope Killzone 2 lives up to expectations. Nothing GG has done before has been much good, so other than fancy pants graphics this game has a lot to prove in terms of gameplay.

I'm not sure I like the message Sony is delivering... We all know the story....

E305, they show amazing pre-rendered footage
Sony get busted for showing pre-rendered BS
Now Sony come out saying they intended to do that all along.

It's starting to smack of overconfidence again, just when they seemed to have learned their lesson. I bet there's been a lot of sweating at Sony while they waited to see if GG have been able to deliver!

KZ2 seems to be have become this albatross round the PS3's neck... If KZ2 looks and plays great then Sony wins... if it does not come up to scratch the the PS3 is doomed. There are so many other games in the pipeline from more established developers that seem to get less coverage. KZ2 wouldn't even make it on my Most Wanted list.

So they wanna sell PS3s with another mainstream FPS???

What about something new and original???

Looks nice enough I guess, still got to play it with the horrible playstation controller though.

djronz:

The fact is blu-ray is a flop: Has not taken of anywhere inc Japan. And thanks to digitalhi-def downloads becoming the norm, i don't see blu-ray taking off (Minidisc, Beta, Artc, Super cd, etc).

360 is capable of running 1080p - but if you look at the PS3 nothing actually runs as smooth, or even looks worse. Only very few games are capable are able to run 1080p. Usually there are games that don't have much going on screen at once...Look at VT3 Tennis running on 360 compared to 1080p on PS3 - why does the 360 look better, and has smoother edges. Check Ridge Racer too:

http://www.destructoid.com/ridge-racer-6...

Also NBA: Homecourt, plays & looks better & smoother on 360 though it's running at 720p. Oh and VF5 on 360 will have better edges and full 3d backgrounds (PS3 were 2D).

HDMI on PS3 running on my Pioneer 1080p 50" plasma, and RGB HD on my 360 - Why does the 360 look as good if not better then PS3 running at same resolution or when possible at 1080p: Don't be fooled by hype.

Who in world has 7.1 sound in there house! - No one...5.1 and 7.1 is hardly a huge major difference. No one needs it unless they have a massive room with enough space to for the speakers to surround the entire area circle, and hopefully if any game developers will bother using it - I doubt it very much. I seriously doubt it!

Oh! The Darkness looks and plays better on the 360. Lighting, shadows, textures, framerate - all better on 360.

@disc

"And you failed. Because that wasn't just high, that was beyond what you can do on any computer in the next 5 years."

Very bold words. Lets hope they don't come back to bite you.

Saw the video;

Looks amazing. Was skeptical after looking at the screenshots, but the game looks stunning in motion.

The rest of this fanboy bickering is plain ridiculous.

Just watched the vid. Looks awesome.

"Haha. So predictable. Now that we've seen the trailer is half good it suddenly is all about gameplay again and how KZ 1 sucked."

Now if that isn't one of the most moronic posts I've read on here....

It should always be about gameplay. If I just wanna see pretty graphics I'll rent a summer blockbuster. What is it with all the graphics whores these days? Sure, graphics play a factor but if a game plays shit then it's shit. Mad Dog McCree had amazing graphics, photo realistic if you like, but it was still a below par light gun game - although it did have it's comedic value.

The original Killzone was pants, in my opinion, but then, I'm not a huge fan of 'made for console' FPS games. If you liked it, great, you didn't waste your money.

For a 1st year ps3 game it's bloody impressive.