New Xbox Experience Comments by Tom Bramwell

@CB.Gamestation

Why are people complaining that you have to put the disc in to play off the HDD?

You are either a cheap cunt or a lazy fuck.

Evilfoxhound was making the following points IN REFERENCE TO HAVING TO KEEP THE DISC IN FOR A HDD INSTALLED GAME:

Cheap Cunt - You don't want the disc in so you can pirate software.
Lazy Fuck - You don't want the disc in because you can't be bothered to go and get it.

So your comment of "Not everyone can afford to buy every game they want" has NOTHING to do with his original comment, which is why he assumed you must be talking about his piracy comment of 'Cheap Cunt'.

You may well be more mature than everyone here and don't have to resort to swearing or insults, however, I can now see why you work in Gamestation.

Edit: Spelling

lol.
I don't ride a skateboard nor do I have spots.

I wasn't saying what he said was wrong...I agree that you shouldnt be able to install the disk then never have to put it in again...as everyone would buy games then return them after installing...
I don't mind putting the disk in to verify...I just wanted to know if you have to keep it in all the time while playing or you can take it out and put another one in for later...

:)

(ps what's wrong with working at Gamestation anyways...dont hate the player hate the game my friend :) )

For those with the NXE, does the HD install option cause the disc still to be spun on a low speed continually while it's in the drive?? This is what my Xbox does when I'm not playing a game and I'm in the dashboard or playing an arcade game, but this spinning causes a very deep low rumble that's rather annoying (forcing me to remove the game when I'm not playing it). I REALLY hope the disc isn't continually spun and that the Xbox just checks it initially then completely stops the drive from spinning after that.. can anyone say what happens?? Cheers!

Also, anyone else with experience of the new 1680x1050 monitor support, is it as good as I'm hoping (my PC connected to this monitor in it's native resolution is fantastic, I'm hoping my Xbox picture will look as good now with the update)...

Looking forward to the NXE, and even the installs - just wish it didn't need to disc in the drive.

Perhaps MS could compromise and make it you only need the disc in the drive the first time you play a game. So if I play GoW2 I put the disc in the first time but then each consecutive time I play it after that I don't need the disc (as long as I don't play a different disc-based game in between). If I then play a different disc game (e.g., Mass Effect), then when I put GoW2 back in it needs the disc for the first play again, but not each consecutive time after that.

I don't know about anyone else but this would fit my gaming habbits as I flit between XBLA games, but tend to keep a retail game in the drive until I'm done with it - at least this way I could keep playing one game, and keep the disc to another game in the drive (such as a multiplayer game for if friends suddenly came online - I could switch game without disc-swapping).

Alternatively, maybe you only need the disc 1-in-10 plays, or something like that? Or even if each copy of a game comes with a unique serial number, you could register the serial number online, proving you have bought it, and Microsoft could blacklist rental copies, so you could never install it? I'm probably just babbling, but there has to be a way to allow you to play without the discs?

"Xbox 720 in all but name."
What bollocks.
Everyone knows that the Xbox 720 will have 15 CPU's, 8 GPU's, 16GB of RAM, a 10TB HDD and cost £720.

All you folks blaming the fans for the noise, I think you'll find you're mistaken. The DVD drive running at full speed constantly does, indeed, sound like a fan, but it is not. There is a hack where one can slow down the DVD drive to 1x while playing games and if you try it (as i did) you will see that it is in fact the DVD drive making that constant whooshing noise.

*Of course, this is just on my console, so I suppose results could vary...

A) The disk in drive thing will never change, and for good reason microsoft makes most of its 360 profits off the back of game sales.
B) The group friends update is the most important and the only feature that id like to see on the ps3, whos interface i like because its simple.

"All you folks blaming the fans for the noise, I think you'll find you're mistaken. The DVD drive running at full speed constantly does, indeed, sound like a fan, but it is not. There is a hack where one can slow down the DVD drive to 1x while playing games and if you try it (as i did) you will see that it is in fact the DVD drive making that constant whooshing noise.

*Of course, this is just on my console, so I suppose results could vary... "

Or you could just play a dvd, xbox 1 game or HDD beta. No noise whatsoever as the drive spins at much lower rates.

Wonder if there will be a new revision to the XMBC to mirror this little lot :-)

new xbox experience = blu ray on ps3

new xbox experience = blu ray on ps3

My god what a stupid comment by a stupid person. Why do these idiots bother?

Nice, I truly like the way they are taking the XO to. Nice to be able to play games with much quieter console, thats the best part about this upgrade.

BUT - I must say that the avatars look damn ridiculous and I wish that they would either get rid off them or just change them overall, but I doubt that happens anytime soon. Who really thinks that they look good and on par with everything else on XO? I mean why make them these childish-looking-Wii-Mii-wannabes?

I really dont want a retarded comic-character to represent me on the gaming-world. Either make them more realistic (or something like spore where u have total control) or just make them optional for those that want to play sims and giggle at their newly gotten hat for their avatar.

Stupid. :/

At what point will it actually become available? Been on a few times this morning expecting the usual "There is an update available" message but so far nada. Being far to excited about this update, I would like it sooner than later.

LOL you can even pick up the Mii360 and its legs wiggle.

NXE is as slick as fuck, but would have prefered to see all my content like with Channels. The irony that Nintendo have the more Windows like interface.
HD installes are great to cut down on noise and preserve the life of DVD unit, but serve no other purpose it seems. Load times are neglible, I swear Fable 2 has a voice bug now.

I've had a play I think it's pretty terrible TBH (please no angry tearful xbot posts berating me as usual, it's just my own opinion on the interface).

Seems to me it's actually MORE cluttered and confusing than before! A simple task such as checking out what your friend are doing from the dash is now a joke for anyone over 5. I can't even choose not to have a crappy Mii because of a gaping silhouette where the thing goes.

HUGE amounts of advertising, you've gone too far MS the little ads before were OK - just, but I'm bombarded with advertising now! Here's a tip MS, turn on a PS3 or Wii and see if they plaster games, movies, demos, music or crappy inside Xbox which no one reads anyway all over the interface.

I wonder MS, you gonna give me my money back for all the "half" themes I have now? If you think I'll waste money on that sort of thing with you ever again you're wrong!

I am so happy it's used for games and nothing else (except for my modest HD DVD collection) I couldn't bear to be on the dash for too long! TBH my 360 is on the way out (or so it sounds!) and if it does die I may think real hard if I want to replace it or just go it alone with my super slick interface (ad and Avatar free) PS3 - god I sound like the SDF!

Was never not really sold on the "NXE" and now I've had a look I was right (about MY OWN view!!!!!) on the new interface. Oh well the installs might impress...

@Zero Cool, the 1680x1050 resolution isn't 16:9, it's more like 16:10, and since ALL Xbox360 games are displayed at 16:9 then it's either going to display it with the sides cut off, or squeezed in horizontally (a skewed and innaccurate image) or else as it is now, with borders at the top and bottom preserving the aspect ratio of the games AND allowing you to see the whole image being output by your games/DVD's. What do you want them to do, send you a new monitor that's in the right 16:9 resolution for you?! I personally like it because before I had to seriously stretch my image out to get the right aspect ratio (i.e. cirlces actually being circles and not ovals on the screen) but that meant I lost quite a lot of the sides of the image off my monitor.

It's now in native resolution and you can see the full image that's present with no compromises. The only one being that it shows up the fact that our 16:10 ratio monitors are just that and that we should be richer and have got full on 1080p TV's. Sorry, mini rant over but your post annoyed me some.

As for the NXE I only had a little play around on it this morning and will be going on it again soon, but it looks alright, works pretty quickly and the avatars aren't really present all that much anyways, fortunately cos my make-shift one looked a bit shit. Need to spend endless hours getting mine just right... Also got to test out HD installs but as long as it works can only be a good thing to reduce that awful drive spinning hurricane that's ever present in a game.

I can't really say anything negative really, it's got a few improvements, no big downsides that I can see (you can get access to the old blades anyway now with the guide and it looks a hundred times better than what the old guide button used to bring up..) so I'm pretty happy. Now to go play with it.

PLUS woot at the proper aspect ratio for me with my stupid 16:10 monitor, I can watch DVD's without being annoyed I'm not getting the best picture! :)

Seems cool enough, but it's nothing too exciting to be honest.
My 360 has frozen twice since installing it, and from doing the same thing to, looking at what one of my friends are doing and then exiting out, BAM! Frozen. :/
Avatars are alright, nowhere near as customisable as the Wii ones.
I think it all looks a lot nicer, there's no doubt about that. But it doesn't seem any easier to navigate, infact to look at what friends are online it's far easier to push the guide button and revert back to the old style :/

Ah I get it, no wonder EG have been promoting the the NXE.

What's that EurogamerTV, on inside Xbox channel you say.... ;)

/ starts an EG conspiracy theory "they're running it all in secret you know!!!!"

/ puts on tin foil hat and sits quietly with Mel Gibson and Joaquin Phoenix on the couch.....

Been messing around with it for a while and its bang on.

Superb update. The HDD installs make a nice improvement on loading speed and the whole dash is more responsive and looks slick as hell.

Of course there will be whiners, there always are. The update is nothing but improvement though.

Always the 'OH my god its STUNK' luddite crowd around.

Sure you cant get a from b without getting c and the unforeseen side effect you also would get d.

Overall its a great improvement, a few mates on XBL have been very positive, avatar is not really a necessity but would counter Wii and Home and so XBL does not look stark naked next to them! Avatar would have some uses but the real change are party lobby and the interface.

I loved the installs, I already used up almost 80 gbs to install the recent new games! A pain to put in the disk for verification but great that I can put in disk and option not to boot up when tray closed. So a pretty good update.

Aside from not liking the clutter of the advertising pretending to be information it's a massively good update with many, many improvements on the original. If you are having trouble finding stuff then the mini guide (press guide button) works a lot like the old system only less cluttered and easier to use. so you can use this to get a list of what your friends are playing or cruicially quick launch stuff with ease.

What I'm also impressed with is that there isn't just the big features, there are loads of cool little features in there too.

This is better and more fun to use that the playstation 3 front end in my opinion.

New update is fucking FAIL. Now when browsing for demo's I have to siv through a fucking list of Arcade Trial's and proper Demo's mixed together. Before I could filter between "Arcade" and "Demos". FAIL.

They had it spot on before with the old dash: New, however, is a horizontal sorting menu, broken down by filters like "All Games," "Arcade," "Demos," and "Recent Downloads." (This new horizontal and vertical organization is not unlike Sony's XMB design -- Microsoft calls it "twist" navigation, the same UI used for Zune.)

So why the fuck did they get rid of the "Demos" filter and make it "Demos + Arcade trials" or whatever the fuck it's called in the new dash. They kept the arcade only filter, but got rid of the demos only one. I can't even go back to the old one which is even worse.

nxe = xmb + miis + coverflow. hooray for progressive thinking.