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New Super Mario Bros. Wii Hands On

Wii Hands On by Ellie Gibson

28 October, 2009

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At 10.30am yesterday morning, all was quiet on the Eurogamer Expo show floor. Apart from the 48 people in blue t-shirts running round shouting, "Where's Rupert / the bag of ethernet cables / the 17 missing Xbox 360 units," of course. And apart from the New Super Mario Bros. Wii area, where four of Eurogamer's finest had gathered.

Goodness knows who they were, but sadly they had to dash off to do something more important leaving me, Tom, Bertie and GamesIndustry.biz editor Matt Martin to try out Nintendo's latest offering. If you'd been standing nearby you'd have heard the familiar plink of gold coins and boing of bouncing plumbers. You'd also have heard giggling, shouting, cackling, cheering, jeering, ridiculing and a lot of swearing.

It wasn't the first time we'd seen the game in action. The Eurogamer editorial team voted NSMB Wii game of the show at this year's E3, causing a bit of consternation. But the Eurogamer Expo marks the first time UK gamers get to play NSMB Wii, and yesterday morning was the first time the four of us got to play it together.

As you'll know if you read Oli's E3 preview, that's how the game's meant to be played. At first glance it looks just like the Mario games of old, all blue skies and green pipes and yellow question boxes. You run from left to right within a 2D landscape, collecting coins and jumping on enemies along the way.

'New Super Mario Bros. Wii' Screenshot 1

Please hammers, do hurt 'em.

As you go, you encounter familiar power-ups like super-sizing mushrooms and fire flowers. In fact, the only difference seems to be that there are four characters on-screen (Mario, Luigi, yellow Toad and blue Toad, in the demo on show at the Expo). But to really understand how important this difference is and how much it changes the Mario experience, maybe you need to have a play.

So that's what the four of us did. As veteran Mario fans it wasn't hard for us to get to grips with the controls (apart from Bertie, who had to be told to hold the Wii remote horizontally instead of vertically, but he's the youngest and extremely next-gen). Within seconds we were all running and bouncing around with ease and it felt just like old times. Except now we could run into and bounce off each other, we discovered - using each other's heads as impromptu stepladders to reach those high-up coins.

'New Super Mario Bros. Wii' Screenshot 2

A lava level! What will they think of next? An ice level, probably.

We spent the duration of the first level experimenting with this mechanic and generally mucking about without too much concern for what each other was doing. But then the level ended and the scores screen appeared. We realised that in NSMB Wii you win points not just for coins collected, power-ups stockpiled and enemies boshed, but for things like how many lives you still have left at the end of the level. We realised, most importantly, that it is a competition.

The gloves came off. Which made it a lot easier to press the buttons, but also meant that everyone was more focused. Suddenly it seemed much more important to nab that giant bonus coin, or to snaffle not just one but all the fire flower power-ups before your rivals could get near them. The pace of the game shifted from a gentle stroll to a race.

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insincere_dave
28/10/09 @ 11:06
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Your observation skills are second to many.
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28/10/09 @ 11:06
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:D

I smell a new after-pub party game.
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28/10/09 @ 11:09
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Well, yes, it is does have exactly the same title as the DS game but with 'Wii' thrown in on the end, so it seems plausible they would look similar. Did you read about the gameplay at all Svpamm1?
sargulesh
28/10/09 @ 11:10
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I'm not sure he can read.
stevetuck
28/10/09 @ 11:12
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Looks exactly like two plumbers and some toads jumping round a level and collecting coins and dinging level 20 and getting a mount..

SOLD
EarlBassett
28/10/09 @ 11:15
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Did someone say Edge have reviewed it already?
How comes they got it so early
IronCladChicken
28/10/09 @ 11:31
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Edge from U2 - He used his mystic time-travelling abilities.
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28/10/09 @ 11:32
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I think this looks like great fun. If only my wife and 3 and 2 year old kids weren't crap at games! :-(

Does it have online 'co-op'? Would it even work online or would the latency just kill it?
DrDamn
28/10/09 @ 11:45
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LBP - which strangely gets no mention at all - worked just fine for online co-op. Doubtful this will have voice comms though and will possibly be crippled by a separate friends code system like Mario Kart. Without these I'd say it would be best played offline with 4 people round the same TV.
spekkeh
28/10/09 @ 12:01
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I don't have four wiimotes. Does anyone know if you can use a wiimote-classic controller combi for two players?
Der_tolle_Emil
28/10/09 @ 12:12
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I can't confirm but I think any other input methods rather than Wiimotes is unlikely since shaking it to 'control' your bubble would be impossible with other controllrs.
Genji
28/10/09 @ 12:15
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Well, I'm sure they could just substitute the shaking for furious button mashing on a classic controller. It wouldn't be as fun, but it's hardly impossible.
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Cadence
28/10/09 @ 12:21
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That is sarcasm right?
cianchristopher
28/10/09 @ 12:23
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I fuckin' love the Wii.

Greatest....Console....Of....All....Time....
almighty-slayer
28/10/09 @ 12:25
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@Genji

Yes they could, but they won't.
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28/10/09 @ 12:29
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@almighty-slayer

...why wouldn't they? If the bubble moving is the only thing they use the shaking for, then it would be a simple matter to just give the option for the classic controller. It's not like trying to control Mario Galaxy or anything.

There's no reason for them to not at least include the classic controller option.
Der_tolle_Emil
28/10/09 @ 12:39
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No, there isn't a reason. Remember Mario Kart Wii? Yes, they offered GC Controller support but it was gimped. I wouldn't be surprised if they dropped everything else entirely this time.
Ace_McCloud
28/10/09 @ 12:41
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Sounds like the perfect girlfriend friendly living room party game.

Might actually get to play a fun game all the way through on co-op, without breaking up with her by the end.
sandys
28/10/09 @ 12:52
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Was thinking much the same, me and the missus played LBP to death in the attempt to get all trophies etc, if this offers as much entertainment I may actually get around to buying a Wii.
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Bremenacht
28/10/09 @ 13:02
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This sounds like a great alternative to SSBM to me.
photoboy
28/10/09 @ 13:26
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That does sound incredibly fun, but finding three other people to play it with me could be tricky...
Fletche
28/10/09 @ 13:27
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"but it doesn't seem to do the co-op as well as 'Splosion Man, which requires players to really work together, the multiplayer here feels a little forced, it doesn't actually add anything to the gameplay"

But that depends how you want to play it, if you are playing co-op then the the MP would have to work together to get to areas and thus to items they could get to on their own, but yes, if you are playing completativley then you wouldn't have to work together. The whole point is that you can choose, which would actually give this a lot more scope than maybe you first think
stampax
28/10/09 @ 13:34
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Would def buy.... if i had 3 mates to play it with :(
StringBeanJean
28/10/09 @ 14:40
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Again this'd be a must buy with online multiplayer. Fact is I don't have any friends who come round my house to play games. And the gf doesn't like games.
smelly
28/10/09 @ 17:29
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@drDamn : LBP didnt control like a mario game.. I've answered this one in the nsmbwii thread yesterday.. Simply put LBP had a delay between button presses and action on screen, it also auto-guided your characters for you... Doing either of those things in a mario game would suck balls, and wouldnt be mario.

(read yesterdays comment for a full on explanation)
smelly
28/10/09 @ 17:32
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"After that, you've had Mario 64, Mario Sunshine, and Mario Galaxy in the main series. That's it. Four, maybe five games since 1990. Such over exposure... "

Funny that.. 5 "Super Mario" games in 19 years, and people moan (mainly xbox owners)... Ironically - In 8 years we've had the same number of halo games...
tnt_2008smum
28/10/09 @ 18:10
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Funny that.. 5 "Super Mario" games in 19 years, and people moan (mainly xbox owners)... Ironically - In 8 years we've had the same number of halo games...

Silly smelly! If you’re going to use Halo Wars to make a point then you’ll need to add all the other additional non platform Super Mario games that have been released over the last decade into your little equation! That bumps the number up a bit doesn’t it?
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I love Mario games (and platform games in general) and I’m looking forward to trying this out.
smelly
28/10/09 @ 19:14
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>non platform Super Mario games

Silly tnt_2008smum : I specifically said "Super" Mario bros.. I think you'll find that the only SUPER mario bros games since 1990 are platformers...

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WinterSnowblind
28/10/09 @ 21:39
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@smelly
Your arguement just doesn't make sense. If you only want to count the main series, fine. But then why are you counting all of the Halo spin offs and expansions? By the logic you're using for Mario, we've only had three Halo games in the past decade. If you're going to count them all then do the same for Mario.

I'm also not sure where your blind hatred for the Xbox comes from. You could just as easily pick on Metal Gear Solid for this problem, or Modern Warfare. Why does every one of your posts seem to be anti-Xbox/Halo? Stop trolling and play some damn games.
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smelly
28/10/09 @ 22:04
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>By the logic you're using for Mario,

Im not.. I'm using the logic for "SUPER mario" - there's a difference.
WinterSnowblind
28/10/09 @ 22:12
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So if the next Halo game happens to be called "The Forerunner" or something to that extent, that would automatically shut you up and prove their not milking the series?

The name of the game has nothing to do with it, what you're trying to argue is that there have been very few Mario games in the main series, just as many Pokemon fans would defend that series because the main RPG games are still good, despite the ridiculous amount of shovelware they release. But all of those games are still called Pokemon, would you count them as main Pokemon games because of that?

All I'm saying is that it's extremely biased to count all of the Halo spin-offs, and not the Mario ones, simply because they use a different name.

And that aside, there has actually been 8 Super Mario Bros. games since the 90's. 9 if you count Mario Galaxy 2. So no matter how you try and cut it, there's still been more Mario games in the same period of time that Halo's had since the original was released.
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smelly
28/10/09 @ 22:30
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>Why does every one of your posts seem to be anti-Xbox/Halo?

I own an xbox.. Anyone is welcome to add me "MrSmellyClam" btw.. See all the games I've owned and played.. I slag off games like halo3/bioshock/etc because IVE PLAYED THEM (to completion too).. I'd like to see a lot of you xbox trolls say the same thing when you start slagging off a wii game you dont own and have never played.

but reading thru the threads on this site.. the same names which pop up time and again in 360 threads also pop up in threads taking a pop at wii/ps3.. For some reason its nearly ALWAYS the 360 owners who are the most insecure about their purchase who feel the need to tell everyone how "crap" their machines are..

So they're the ones i respond to..
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28/10/09 @ 22:33
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"So no matter how you try and cut it, there's still been more Mario games in the same period of time that Halo's had since the original was released."

Right.. So you're counting any game which happens to have the CHARACTER of mario in it as being a mario game - to defend you dear halo franchise?

Right.. Halo is an fps.. as an FPS you're not controlling a character - you're playing as yourself.. THEREFOR using your logic.. there has been 1000s* of games featuring that character on the 360.

* probably an exaggeration.
smelly
28/10/09 @ 23:21
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@Pro_Gamer : Wash your mouth out at once young man.. we'll have none of that filth in a nintendo topic thank you :-)
ShiroBen
29/10/09 @ 00:31
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I was grinning like an idiot just reading about this game. Sounds brillo.
Burkey123
29/10/09 @ 00:37
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Sounds awesome. This is my most anticipated game for Christmas.
smelly
29/10/09 @ 03:01
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>Sounds awesome. This is my most anticipated game for Christmas.

Im worried how the single player will play out.. Im worried if there's going to be things i need to complete the game 100% which i cant get unless i'm playing co-op.... If those 2 things are fine - it'll be a must buy for me (regardless what the reviews say).
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29/10/09 @ 06:16
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Yeah, I can't wait for this, but am a little concerned that the single player might not have the legs of the multi, and I'm usually (though not always) gaming alone. Still, looks hella fun. :)
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29/10/09 @ 10:01
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@smelly
Going by your Gamertag, I'd assume you know someone who owns a 360, and have occasionally signed in to a profile you created on their console. You claim to have played games like Halo 3 and Bioshock, but neither appear on your GT and the games you do have been played very little, if at all. That doesn't sound like someone who is completely open and unbiased in this arguement.

I'd also like to point out that I love Mario and as I said originally I AM looking forward to this game, I just said it conveys the feeling of being rushed. It was you who jumped over all these comments as only coming from "fanboys". And I certainly don't see how all of them were from Xbox owners. All fanboys tend to act exactly the same way, I don't see how you can try and claim one kind is so much worse than another.

And more on topic, yes, the EDGE review pointed out there were certain items you can only collect by using your partner as a spring and bouncing off their heads.
Rob the Hermit
29/10/09 @ 12:37
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I'm selling my Wii. I can no longer put up with titles that should excite me turning me off instead because I'm a solo gamer. With no friends.

Check the swapsies thread next month if you want an NTSC Wii.
tnt_2008smum
29/10/09 @ 16:47
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Silly tnt_2008smum : I specifically said "Super" Mario bros.. I think you'll find that the only SUPER mario bros games since 1990 are platformers...

Im not.. I'm using the logic for "SUPER mario" - there's a difference.

Oh silly, silly smelly you really are clutching at straws with that one!

I specifically said ‘Halo Wars’ and I think you’ll find it was an RTS! You are trying to use it as an example of how many ‘Halo’ games there have been so your suggestion that we only include ‘Super’ Mario games that are platform games does not hold water. This, indecently, was my point in the first place!

on a footnote, you really don’t like it if people don’t agree with you do you?

In fact just to keep you happy I’ll comply with your view!

Here goes ‘deep breath’

You stupid xbots go play your ‘mature’ blood and guts shooters because if you don’t like this you must be an xbot Halo fanboy! Halo sucks!
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29/10/09 @ 17:43
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"You claim to have played games like Halo 3 and Bioshock, but neither appear on your GT and the games you do have been played very little, if at all. That doesn't sound like someone who is completely open and unbiased in this arguement. "


Now you're just talking nonsense.. I dont play online games.. but if you look at my achievements - you'll see i've completed both those games... And just this last weekend i completed mirrors edge... Also look to see how many hours i clocked on Burnout Paradise... In other words, you're talking crap my son.. Good try at a troll though.
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29/10/09 @ 17:45
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Quote "Halo sucks! "


I couldnt agree more.
WinterSnowblind
29/10/09 @ 18:57
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@Smelly
It doesn't matter if you've played them online or not, you would still have the achievements for playing through them the next time you connected to XBL, which according to your profile was on the 26th of this month. In comparasion, take a look at my gamertag for Perfect Dark Zero and you'll see that the majority of achievements were unlocked on my profile while I was offline, yet it still logs me as having played the game and unlocking the achievement, even though I haven't played the game in years and NEVER online. It still updates automatically, so unless you've played through Halo 3 in the past three days.. You're lying.

http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h203/W...

The fact you've put some amount of time into other games doesn't really mean much either. I've played through games at a friends house as well, and it's not unusual for me to have invested a lot of play time in a multiplayer game.

Good try at trolling though.
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29/10/09 @ 20:37
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@WinterSnowblind : I dont know what you're looking at.. but my achievements are there for all to see.

And the only reason i gave my account name was to show that I do own a 360, i do play on it more than the wii.. I'm not some nintendo troll "bitching" on 360 owners.. And I am looking forwards to this game more than anything else this year (well, i also want to get uncharted 2 too)... And t doesnt change the fact you're wrong... As you state:

Quote "And that aside, there has actually been 8 Super Mario Bros. games since the 90's. 9 if you count Mario Galaxy 2. So no matter how you try and cut it, there's still been more Mario games in the same period of time that Halo's had since the original was released."


According to you thats 8 super mario games in 20 years (SMG2 doesnt count as it's not out yet, and neither is NSMBWii .. so that makes it 7)... So that's SEVEN super mario games in TWENTY years... and FIVE halo games in 8 years.. So I dont know where you're getting this "more mario games in the same period of time".

In fact since 2001, when halo was released there has been : Super Mario Sunshine, Super Mario Galaxy, and New Super Mario Bros DS... That's 3 Super mario games (on 3 platforms), in the same period that there's been 5 Halo games on 2 platforms.

So you're obviously wrong. Oh and halo sucks balls.

tnt_2008smum
29/10/09 @ 20:53
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4 Halo games smelly as you can't include Halo Wars.

Oh and Wii Music sucks balls ;)
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29/10/09 @ 22:03
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Most exciting game of the year IMO and I never play games on my girlfriend's Wii except for Wii Sports with friends that are too self conscious to try out SingStar (even Mario Kart Wii has been in its box ever since we bought it). This might change that (a bit) though.

Curious to learn if, besides a major gameplay innovation for the franchise, there's enough new stuff for Ellie's liking. She's rather picky when new stuff's concerned... ;)
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>4 Halo games smelly as you can't include Halo Wars.

yes i can and i did.. And 4 is still more than 3.

>Oh and Wii Music sucks balls ;)

So now you're equating halo to wii music? Okaaay.. I guess they both are designed to appeal to kids who dont like challenge..
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