New PS3 model rumoured

By Games Industry.biz Published 4 May, 2007

Probably not "PlayStation 4".

An Australian technology website has suggested that a revised PlayStation 3 could be less than 18 months away, citing "a Sony insider" as its source, GamesIndustry.biz is reporting.

The Smarthouse report refers to the proposed machine as a "PlayStation 4", but goes on to state that it will be based on the same chipset as PS3, differing from the current model only in the "drive bay and attachment area". According to the source, it will also include a software suite for managing streaming of content to TVs and hi-fis, and feature improved output.

A Sony spokesperson declined to comment on the story, classing it as speculation.

Smarthouse quotes the source as saying, "We have even looked at a Sony home server based on PlayStation technology. This would allow consumers to connect home automation devices to the Sony server while also delivering online gaming and access to an extensive movie and music library."

The idea of a full-fledged PlayStation 4 coming so soon after the company's vast investment in designing and launching PS3 is far-fetched. But expanding PS3's abilities as a media server, connected to multiple devices in the home, would be consistent with Sony's oft-repeated vision of PS3 as a multimedia home entertainment centre.

The device outlined in the aritcle is also consistent with Reuters' recent report that Sony is considering launching PS3s with larger hard drives, much as Microsoft has done with the Xbox 360 Elite.

However, PS3 hard disks are industry-standard components, and users are free to fit larger drives themselves if they wish. Many of the other features described in the story could be achieved by updating the PS3 firmware, with no need for a hardware revision.

One - cut a hole in the box. Two - put your junk in that box! Three - get her to open the box. And that's the way you do it.

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  • Tonka #1 5 years ago

    I'm amazed that you give any creit to waht a gadget magazine journo has heard from an un named source.

  • AusFreelancer #2 5 years ago

    They should rename that website "DUMBHOUSE".

  • Zomoniac #3 5 years ago

    Well, it'd be a great idea since the PSX was such a roaring success and didn't suffer a series of rapid price drops before quickly being discontinued...

  • Cloudane #4 5 years ago

    We won't see the PSThree (or the slim-line PS3) until 2009 at least.

  • Stormflood #5 5 years ago

    PSX2

  • Darren #6 5 years ago

    Sony know they have to focus on marketing the PS3 so it's no wonder they're not commenting on this latest rumour.

    But if it's true, then I'd have to question why Sony feel the need make another machine so soon after the release of the current PS3 as their experiences with the PSX, which by all accounts was a total flop, should have surely taught them something and this new machine sounds like it might be very similar.

    Good luck to 'em if it is... I mean my PS3 has a 160 GB HDD, HDMI, a BD drive and numerous memory expansion slots, what else do I really need?
    Edited by 1 at 04/05/07 @ 15:08

  • SeesThroughAll #7 5 years ago

    PSX2

    That's called a PS3.

  • Tomnd #8 5 years ago

    god dammit whens the ps4 comming out!

  • SeesThroughAll #9 5 years ago

    LOL

  • BadBoyBonner #10 5 years ago

    Think the use of industry standard components is to be applauded.

    Personally I can not believe Microsoft has had the audacity to market the slight modification (i.e. a HDMI port) and a bigger Hardrive – as a new Xbox model. Surely they are just natural updates to the machine over it’s lifecycle.

    I take my hat off to them – the cheeky twats.

    At least what’s talked about here (in the article) might offer something new at no cost if it is a firmware update.

    Now as I bought a 360 when it first came out (an haven’t bothered with a PS3 to play games I already have) please Sony stop me from buying a new Xbox Live console(better name than Xbox720) and release Playstation 3.5.

    It would be easy – double both sets of memory giving it a gig, chuck in a few more cells (or make all 8 parts of the cell run) and provide it with two pads as standard that work on PS3 games one with rumble the other a Six Axis. The console costs that much that it is not going to make much difference in price – but would allow it to exceed the 360 in a much more timely fashion.

    Job done and a much faster climb back to the top.

  • AL7AIR #11 5 years ago

    PS-triple ... if I read this one more time I'm hunting down Chad and kill him >:[

    Other than that, I second the PSX2 comment ;)

  • jonsaan #12 5 years ago

    How about a new version with a little circle on the front that tells you when it's overheating?

  • BadBoyBonner #13 5 years ago

    In fact reading my own post - I think it is the machine Sony SHOULD have launched with. I mean come on, the extra 512mb could have made all the difference, and is the least one could expect with something launching over a year later.

  • Hench #14 5 years ago

    Pfft, just a load of bollocks really.

  • BadBoyBonner #15 5 years ago

    All joking aside.

    Who on here honestly thinks that there will be as much time between the Ps3 to PS4 as there has been between ps1-ps2 and ps2 to ps3?

  • Killerbee #16 5 years ago

    Playstation 3.1?

    Not a bad idea per se, but it's still not really what gamers want. I guess if it was accompanied by a massive price drop in the "vanilla" PS3, it might be a good thing...

  • SeesThroughAll #17 5 years ago

    Who on here honestly thinks that there will be as much time between the Ps3 to PS4 as there has been between ps1-ps2 and ps2 to ps3?

    Of course it won't, they just lost their market share. On the other hand though, even in the fairly likely event of MS winning this gen, I doubt they will support the 360 for as long as Sony supported the PS2. They do historically have a "upgrade or else" policy.

  • Have_to_Speak_Up #18 5 years ago

    It's my dick in a box

  • BadBoyBonner #19 5 years ago

    Probably the biggest decision will be when MS are going to launch the next system.

    Does the big push for Vista mean they are looking at a longer window - it appears so.

    Or should they try and get the Next next gen (lol) out ASAP and crush the PS3?

  • bonker #20 5 years ago

    Guys, it's not going to be the PS4, obviously but it is going to be a new SKU for the PS3 and will be much cheaper.

    It WILL be out next year and probably not that late into it either ...

  • kangarootoo #21 5 years ago

    Source?

  • lennon #22 5 years ago

    "But expanding PS3's abilities as a media server" :)

    That made me laugh!

  • Darren #23 5 years ago

    A cheaper PS3 sounds good to me but what exactly are they going to remove to make it cheaper? They can't take out the BD drive as games rely on it as is the standard HDD. The other specs would have to remain the same to ensure games run the same so that just leaves the HDMI and memory card ports.

    Somehow I can't see this new model being cheaper somehow as Sony have just announced that they're dropping the cheaper 20 GB HDD model anyway, which lets face it is the very model they should be selling in Europe, where the 60GB HDD PS3 is considered expensive.

    No, it'll be some sort of multimedia home entertainment hub aimed at the filthy rich and, thus, will be a massive flop. I bet a tenner on it! LOL

  • Gurgeh #24 5 years ago

    The PS3 is supposed to last 10 years(!), although you can bet a PS4 will be along a year or two before then. Personally I can't see Sony holding to that schedule and I'm certain the next XBox will be out well before then.

    Allowing the hard disk to be easily replaced with a standard unit is a great move from the consumers point of view, but not from Sony's point of view. I bet if they could get rid of that feature they would. They started out with 2 sizes of hard disk and there's no reason to think they won't introduce a larger disk model again (at a larger price and profit, after all it seems to work for MS no matter how much of a rip-off it is.

  • muftak #25 5 years ago

    "Of course it won't, they just lost their market share. On the other hand though, even in the fairly likely event of MS winning this gen, I doubt they will support the 360 for as long as Sony supported the PS2. They do historically have a "upgrade or else" policy. "

    whos lost what market share its way to early to tell saying sony have sold the same as M$ in the same amount of time means they are still on course to do well.

    what annoys me is when m$ did this with the elite there was no comments like this very petty
    Edited by 1 at 04/05/07 @ 15:39

  • moggsy #26 5 years ago

    based on the same chipset as PS3, differing from the current model only in the "drive bay and attachment area"

    Is the drive bay an expensive component? I know it's not a standard type (there's no slide out tray) so maybe this is a more expensive item. Switching this for a standard tray drive could reduce costs.

    What's meant by the 'attachment area'?

  • SBfistfun #27 5 years ago

    Good luck to 'em if it is... I mean my PS3 has a 160 GB HDD, HDMI, a BD drive and numerous memory expansion slots, what else do I really need?

    Some games worth buying would be a start.

    /chortles

    /poo's

  • Hughes. #28 5 years ago

    I'm still filing this rumour as "gigantic crock of shit", but I did enjoy your rendition if "Dick in a box" in order to link to GI.biz.

  • bushwod #29 5 years ago

    Maybe it will be a PS3 with a HD-DVD drive, just in case they lose the format war.

    :-)

  • lennon #30 5 years ago

    "Good luck to 'em if it is... I mean my PS3 has a 160 GB HDD, HDMI, a BD drive and numerous memory expansion slots, what else do I really need?"

    The one expansion slot that would have been most useful? A ps2 memory card slot!

  • vane101 #31 5 years ago

    Can't wait for the PS4 next year! :)

  • ChromeMud #32 5 years ago

    A Media Centre Extender.Wow, who would of thought?
    I'm gonna sell my PC now.
    Lets hear it for the DRM's!

  • chrisjm #33 5 years ago

    with all the delays ps3 had its not a bad idea to think about releasing ps4 soon.

  • bonker #34 5 years ago

    @Kanga

    Common sense :)

    They've already alluded to the new 'chassis' so it's a straight fact that there's some reshaping going to happen plus there's been other quotes from Sony re 'reconfiguration' (my word) of the innards.

    The simple fact is that Ken is out of the way now and the likes of Stringer and Harrison can start getting real with the PS3. I think you can basically forget anything you were told by Sony prior to March and start listening afresh from now on.

    If these guys have the cajones for the job then they'll be thinking along radical lines as they can afford to as it's no loss of face for them within the organisation as the PS3 isn't THEIR baby. Therefore, I wouldn't bet a limb on any particular part of the current PS3 surviving in a 'refreshed' model.

    The 2007 battle is already over and lost but Sony have shaken up their squad to try and stop the 2008 & 2009 battles becoming a foregone conclusion ...
    Edited by 1 at 04/05/07 @ 17:01

  • smelly #35 5 years ago

    >Some games worth buying would be a start.

    Come off it. It's not been out long, same as the wii.

    At the moment, the price is appealing to the hardcore nerd gamers who'll buy anything just to get the "latest thing". They dont need games. It's sold nearly 4 million units already (compared the the 360's 10 million units, which has been out for over a year longer).

    Come christmas there will be an innevetable price drop. During the next 18-24 months it'll drop to below 200 quid, and then it'll become a mainstream machine, and will have the games which people crave for.

    The ps3 will then take a strong lead again as everyone who has a ps2 upgrades.

    You fan kids can wish all you want that it wont happen, but it will.

  • chupachups #36 5 years ago

    "The ps3 will then take a strong lead again as everyone who has a ps2 upgrades.
    You fan kids can wish all you want that it wont happen, but it will. "

    So if by Xmas 2008 this hasn't happened, and the Wii and/or 360 are still ahead you'll eat your hat?

  • SBfistfun #37 5 years ago

    ^ Be careful before answering this one smelly.

    its a scathat......

  • zuljin #38 5 years ago

    @Gurgeh
    "Allowing the hard disk to be easily replaced with a standard unit is a great move from the consumers point of view, but not from Sony's point of view."
    I can't possibly see why this would be bad from Sony's POV...

    If all this is true, which I doubt very much, it'll most likely be the slimline cheaper version.

    @Darren
    "A cheaper PS3 sounds good to me but what exactly are they going to remove to make it cheaper?"
    Over time they figure out how to reduce the number of components in consoles. Less components, less hardware failures (not always tho) less cost. Can't remember where I read it, but PS2 was reduced in number of components by about half in slimline.

  • smelly #39 5 years ago

    "So if by Xmas 2008 this hasn't happened, and the Wii and/or 360 are still ahead you'll eat your hat?"

    If by christmas 2008 the ps3 hasnt outsold the other two, then i'll quite happily post on the forums in big capital letters saying "what do ya know, i was wrong".

    But for the moment im quietly confident that the ps3 will outsell the other two. Hell, it might even outsell the 360 this year (not so sure about the wii though).

  • smelly #40 5 years ago

    >This does remind me of Sega with their 32x and Sega CD add ons.

    Me too.. what msoft and sony are doing with all these add-ons and revisions of the same hardware is killing the market and making it confusing for consumers - who bought games machines in the first place because it was simple.

  • smelly #41 5 years ago

    (Sorry about triple post)

    @Darren: The ps3 is using some parts which are "off the shelf" im sure the price of said components will go down over time (memory/bluray drive/harddisk/graphics card/etc)

  • septimus #42 5 years ago

    Bastards. The PS3 could easily do most of the stuff they mention through a firmware update.

    You don't need to rip us off again Sony! Tossers.

  • Carrybagma #43 5 years ago

    One - cut a hole in the box. Two - put your junk in that box! Three - get her to open the box. And that's the way you do it.

    What's that all about?

  • Vandrius #44 5 years ago

    Haha.

    Always fun listening to little 360 fanbois getting all excited.

    It reminds me of daycare.

  • DUFFKING #45 5 years ago

    I've already got a PS4, I glued two PS2s together.

  • Hendo #46 5 years ago

    "What's that all about?"

    It's my dick in a box!

  • captainrentboy #47 5 years ago

    PS3 outselling the 360 by the end of this year??.....Reeeeally?
    It's sales are now officially what we like to call pathetic in my store (Wonderful GAME) customers keep coming in saying things like ''Sooo when's something decent going to be released?'' (I'd like to say what are you moaning for? The fantastic Untold Legends is out,look it's over there, but that would be cruel)all teary eyed and sad because they've recently blown £425 on a massive black paper weight, and one that scratches really easily too.
    In all seriousness when is something decent coming out for it chaps? Well something decent that wont be on the 360 too but with added online play and achievements.
    The PS3's release schedule for the remainder of this year looks facking dire, so why oh why would it's sales pick up at all antime soon? Not forgetting that MS have that lil game called Halo 3 coming out just in time for chrimbo, which is sure to gie the 360 another maaasive boost in sales.

  • Mr_Brown #48 5 years ago

    As long as its a cheaper model then thats alright with me.

  • smelly #49 5 years ago

    "In all seriousness when is something decent coming out for it chaps? Well something decent that wont be on the 360 too but with added online play and achievements. "


    It's been out in the uk for what, 2 months? The 360 had LOTS of exclusives after 2 months didnt it?

  • crouchy #50 5 years ago

    PS3 outselling the 360 by the end of this year??.....Reeeeally?
    It's sales are now officially what we like to call pathetic in my store (Wonderful GAME) customers keep coming in saying things like ''Sooo when's something decent going to be released?'' (I'd like to say what are you moaning for? The fantastic Untold Legends is out,look it's over there, but that would be cruel)all teary eyed and sad because they've recently blown £425 on a massive black paper weight, and one that scratches really easily too.
    In all seriousness when is something decent coming out for it chaps? Well something decent that wont be on the 360 too but with added online play and achievements.
    The PS3's release schedule for the remainder of this year looks facking dire, so why oh why would it's sales pick up at all antime soon? Not forgetting that MS have that lil game called Halo 3 coming out just in time for chrimbo, which is sure to gie the 360 another maaasive boost in sales.
    ------
    The ps3 is already outselling xbox worldwide!. For a young console the available selection of games is pretty good. Also once we get to June/Julyish till the end of the year the lineup is stunning.

  • smelly #51 5 years ago

    Crouchy.. dont waste yer breath.

    Every fanboy knows the 360 will outsell everything..

    *cough*

  • crouchy #52 5 years ago

    About the article though. What a crock of shit as usual from the spivs at eurogamer.

  • miiiguel #53 5 years ago

    mates you are already calling MS fanboys to each other...
    damn, that's silly...

    Even if you love the japs, oh so much, why wont you face it... PS3 isn't PS2, has nothing to do with it, it's average, and with a price of something special.
    360 brings the same, only: slightly better, first, with online capabilities, and more, oh... much, much more!. It's an easy choice isn't it ?

    c'mon do yourself a favor and - Jump In!
    Edited by 2 at 05/05/07 @ 23:10

  • Xerx3s #54 5 years ago

    Threads like this are great. They really contribute to my ignore list. We should have these threads for the wii as well.

  • Dizzy #55 5 years ago

    >The ps3 is already outselling xbox worldwide!.

    Only in an alternate universe.

  • Overlush #56 5 years ago

    They're all still PS3 bashing? How quaint.

    Do they get hot and bothered about people who buy expensive cars but don't drive them every day? Do they stomp and shout and laugh and proclaim that there will always be more semi-detatched houses insead of mansions? So they giggle with glee at the fact that McDonalds will always have more customers than Pret a Manger?

    I think not

    Why then, do they get so excited about the PS3 costing more than their own console? Do they wish to save us 'lost souls' or do they revel in the fact that they have more pennies left in the bank? Perhap there's just a tinge of jealousy in there for good measure?

    Who know for sure: not I. I have tried to fathom out this mystery but have been somewhat pre-occupied with Resistance, Motorstorm, Oblvion, GOW2 and Okami. I have been, despite my best efforts, busy with Ninja Gaiden, Tekken 5 and...oh yes...typing posts such as this via my console's wonderful web browser.

    If only I had the time to truly get to the bottom of such globally important matters instead of wasting my life away playing video games and watching BluRay movies. Sigh...
    Edited by 1 at 06/05/07 @ 10:10

  • zuljin #57 5 years ago

    @Crouchy
    Just thought I'd highlight this:
    "Also once we get to June/Julyish till the end of the year the lineup is stunning."

    Freudian slip? :)

    I agree tho, PS3 has had pretty good launch titles. And even though I disagree with the whole "it's all about the exclusives" idea, the 3 main games I'm looking forward to are - Ratchet & Clank, Heavenly Sword and Lair.

  • monkey-ken-wizard #58 5 years ago

    @ Probably not "Playstation 4"
    There might not be a ps4

  • davisorle #59 5 years ago

    @crouchy & smelly

    You 2 think you are worthy and capable of judging and calling others fanboys when all you can do is hold on eachother's lil prick and call out for sony. PS3 is outselling whom? PSP maybe. Next time ignorants and opr peopple that have no fuckin clu eaboput somethin should really not be talking shit to anyone. Just go play motorstorm allready and stfu till you grow up and get a life.

  • davisorle #60 5 years ago

    @zuljin

    Dude what launch tittles? after a delay like that shit and the PS3 had all the bad versions of the first games of xbox360 like the least 1 year old rather than Motorstorm? Are you serious?
    Edited by 1 at 06/05/07 @ 15:55

  • zuljin #61 5 years ago

    @davisorle
    Okay I'm trying to actually make sense of what you're saying, but your grammar isn't making it easy.

    Do I enjoy Motorstorm? Yes. Do I enjoy F1? Yes. Do I enjoy Resistance, Blast Factor, the Godfather? Yes.

    Did I say at any point "OMFG PS3 lauch shows how much MS suxxors!!!!"

    No.

    So let me review what I was trying to say: I liked the PS3 launch titles, and I thought many of them were good. Yes many games were multiplatform, but if you only own a PS3, then there was a pretty wide selection on offer.

    The end.

    PS: if you're going to accuse smelly and crouchy of fanboyism, might I suggest a trip to your nearest mirror.

  • miiiguel #62 5 years ago

    PS3 = Game Over.

    Insert a lot more coins next time..., you know u will...

    Meanwhile, why don't you Jump In ?

  • captainrentboy #63 5 years ago

    ''It's been out in the uk for what, 2 months? The 360 had LOTS of exclusives after 2 months didnt it? ''
    If you want to ignore the PC versions, then yes, yes it did :/
    And what's coming out for the PS3 after July but before January that's going to be super special then? I seriously can't think of anything, well nothing that's going to get your common or garden gamer really excited about going out and buying one. Or to put it another way, nothing that has a chance in hell of getting the same interest/massive advertising push as Halo 3 will get at the end of the year.

  • zuljin #64 5 years ago

    @captainrentboy
    LittleBigPlanet

  • smelly #65 5 years ago

    LMFAO!!

    HEY EVERYONE.. APPARENTLY IM NOW A PS3 FANBOY!!!


    (makes a change from being a nintendo one i guess)

    @davisorle: All i have merely stated is that it's blindingly obvious that the ps3 will eventually outsell everything else - and the fanboys such as yourself, are so scared of such a thing happening that you'll come onto a thread about the ps3 and post something like you just posted.

    You've got to ask yourself why, if you arent a fanboy scared of the ps3 being a success, why you posted what you just did?

    Personally I dont own a ps3, they're too expensive for me at the moment. Will i own one in the future when they come down in price? Of course, but then so will most people who own a ps2 too.

    I presume you're a 360 owner? They tend to be the worst when it comes to willy waving and telling everyone how great their machine is and how unworthy the other 2 are. Im surprised you havent posted a long list of 360 games yet.

    The ps3 has been out a short while, and it only launched in europe a month or so ago. But yet, despite being "a failure" it has "ONLY" sold 3 million (ish) units. The 360 has been out for more than a year (getting close to 18 months now), and has only sold 10 million.

    Surely you dont need gcse maths to figure it out.. :-)


    Not that it matters.. as long as you keep going into threads regarding the ps3 or wii and telling everyone how crap they are compared to your machine - i'm sure everyone will stand up and take notice and buy your machine instead.

    quite sad when you think about it.

  • smelly #66 5 years ago

    "If you want to ignore the PC versions"

    That wouldnt be an exclusive then would it?

    So no, i wont. That's like saying the ps3 has had lots of great exclusives (if you want to ignore the 360 versions)

    As for halo 3, I can only hope it's better than the pile of skank which was halo 2... Otherwise some poor babies are going to be crying on this forum when the reviews come out.. "boo hoo, how dare you give the bestest game on my bestest system something other than a 10 out of 10"

    Edited by 1 at 06/05/07 @ 21:52

  • davisorle #67 5 years ago

    @zuljin

    smelly said something like "As for halo 3, I can only hope it's better than the pile of skank which was halo 2... Otherwise some poor babies are going to be crying on this forum when the reviews come out.. "boo hoo, how dare you give the bestest game on my bestest system something other than a 10 out of 10""

    If HE isnt a fucking fanboy then you are both too young to be dealing with. I dont have time to waste for you till you get a life and grow up. Thanx. Resistance sucked by the way and I really dont give a shit if you agree or not. They talked shit about a game like Gears of War and they tell me Resistance is SO good to play? You are fucking stupid.

  • captainrentboy #68 5 years ago

    I said to ignore the PC because we were supposed to be talking about consoles, ignoring the 360 when looking at the recent PS3 games would be daft because it seems bar Blu-Ray the 360 can pretty much do what ever the PS3 can do gameplay wise but for a lot less money (and of course all of those games came out months ago on the 360), those things couldn't have been said back in Dec 05 if comparing a 360 to a PC.
    And yes LBP looks promising, but bar a few geeks and some teenage girls who see it as looking rather Simsesque I can't see it appealing to a massive audience.
    I mean we can all harp on about how amazing Okami and Katamari are, but games like that don't do F'all for actual console sales, because they don't really appeal to that large a consumer group.
    MGS4 and GT5 will be the titles that get the mega sales in, but they're soooooo far away.
    Edited by 1 at 07/05/07 @ 09:34

  • monkey-ken-wizard #69 5 years ago

    @But for the moment im quietly confident that the ps3 will outsell the other two. Hell, it might even outsell the 360 this year (not so sure about the wii though).

    This year?
    I like your blind faith, I’m no mathematician but that’s crazy talk fella , Have you seen the figures? – Week by week the PS3 is selling less than both machines?
    I’m not sure but wouldn’t the PS3 need to out sell its competitors?

  • the_dudefather #70 5 years ago

    PSthree?

  • zuljin #71 5 years ago

    @davisorle
    "If HE isnt a fucking fanboy then you are both too young to be dealing with. I dont have time to waste for you till you get a life and grow up."

    Hmm. Underneath "Poster" is the person that posted that response. A different name (usually) means a different person. I have no idea who smelly is in real life, all I hope for is that his name is not a decription of him. So you think he's a fanboy, therefore I'm too young to be dealt with? Awesome logic man. 24 by the way, thanks for asking.

    "Resistance sucked by the way and I really dont give a shit if you agree or not. They talked shit about a game like Gears of War and they tell me Resistance is SO good to play? You are fucking stupid."

    Like I said, I liked Resitance, and you're more than welcome to dislike it. If you'd have asked me if I liked Gears of War I would have said yes. The graphics really moved the goalposts for ever game out there. So let me figure this out:

    "They talked shit about.." GOW, and "they tell me Resistance is SO good...", and I'm "fucking stupid"?

    Please think about what it is you're actually trying to say in your next post.

  • SeesThroughAll #72 5 years ago

    @zuljin, just don't waste your time with him.

  • smelly #73 5 years ago

    "I mean we can all harp on about how amazing Okami and Katamari are, but games like that don't do F'all for actual console sales, because they don't really appeal to that large a consumer group. "


    Well i cant think of many 360 games which have sold that console either.. or it wouldve sold more than 10 mill by now.



    @davisorle : A fanboy of what? Ps3? Just because I think it's going to outsell the other 2? Or just because I didnt think halo 2 was very good (wouldnt be the first one to say that though)? I've played a hell of a lot of fps games on the pc, and halo2 didnt compare even slightly. So halo 3 had better be good, or i presume you'll be one of the first people crying in the comments thread?


    Honestly though. I find it strange. in every wii related thread the 360 fans come on and start to slag it off, and if you respond by saying they're talking nonsense - you get accused of being a fanboy. In every ps3 related thread the 360 fans come on and start to slag it off, and if you respond by saying they're talking nonsense - you get accused of being a fanboy.

    Maybe the 360 owners who post in the other consoles threads may want to take a look in the mirror before posting and then resorting to name calling to anyone who doesnt agree that their machine is the bestest in the world?

  • smelly #74 5 years ago

    Why are 360 owners so insecure?

  • Overlush #75 5 years ago

    I drive a BMW. It doesn't bother me that many people drive inferior cars and neither does it bother me that others drive superior cars. I certainly don't feel the need to go on car forums and spread any hate in either direction. This leaves me with one question:

    Why do console forums attract all the pathetic, boring, repetitive, uninspired, unoriginal, frustrated, argumentative, narrow minded, pedantic and repressed cock-knockers?

  • smelly #76 5 years ago

    @Overlush: Its strange, they normally seem to be 360 owners too.

    You hardly ever see wii/ps3 owners going onto 360 threads telling everyone how doomed it is.

  • smelly #77 5 years ago

    Fanboy trolls: Read this:

    [link url=http://archive.salon.com/tech/log/2000/1 0/27/playstation_rant/index.html
    ]http://ar chive.salon.com/tech/log/2000/1...[/link]

    Replace the word "dreamcast" with "360" and "ps2" with "ps3"... and it all sounds amazingly familiar.

  • Overlush #78 5 years ago

    LMFAO!

    History has a strange habit of repeating itself, no?

    PS1 vs N64
    PS2 vs Dreamcast
    PS3 vs 360

    Anyone spotting a pattern?

  • smelly #79 5 years ago

    I think i'm gonna post that link every time i see a 360 troll in a ps3 thread telling us all how doomed it is.

  • captainrentboy #80 5 years ago

    Maaaan for something that you supposedly aren't massive fanboys of you're all getting slightly worked up about it all, what with the finding of condemning webpages from six years ago to defend it and what not, you need to get a grip guys.
    I'm just saying what I see, I don't doubt that the PS3 will sell a shitload at some point, but judging from those godawful sales figures posted week in week out and the absolutely gash release line up for the next 7 months it's not going to be anytime soon.
    That's all I'm saying, chiiiil, go play Resistance, Motorstorm annnd hmmmm, well, y'know those two :)
    Edit: Just one more thing, back in the day with those different console Vs console scenarios didn't Sony have one big ace up their sleeve? That being the steady flow of cracking exclusive after exclusive. But from what I can gather it really is a different story nowadays, they have like two, and those two are over a year away :/ And their main rival now has all the same big games as them, but for cheaper, looking/playing exactly the same but with a more established online service.
    Edited by 1 at 08/05/07 @ 00:15

  • smelly #81 5 years ago

    "That's all I'm saying, chiiiil, go play Resistance, Motorstorm annnd hmmmm, well, y'know those two :) "


    How am i going to do that? I dont own a ps3.. it's too expensive for me at the moment and doesnt yet have any games i want to play.


    "hat being the steady flow of cracking exclusive after exclusive. But from what I can gather it really is a different story nowadays, they have like two"

    The ps2 launched in europe with bugger all decent games too (read that article i just posted moaning about lack of decent games on it compared to the dreamcast). As far as i remember the only reason to own a ps2 at this point after it's european release were "fantavision" and "timesplitters".

    If anything the ps3 has better games :-)
    Edited by 2 at 08/05/07 @ 00:19

  • davisorle #82 5 years ago

    @smelly
    Dude Im not a fanboy. I wish Nintendo the best. I dont care. Its just that Sony isnt worth of all this and most of all this time with this console... Thats what im saying. I dont care if MS will do any good. I just want the best. And that price of a console for what it can do it sucks imo. Thats how it is. No more uber exclusives, no more anything... What is its worth for that price or to end up first? Nothing. Thats how i see it. And I love ppl that stick with Nintendo. Those kind of fans migt be retarded and geeks from times to times :p but they atleast are cool.

    "if anything the ps3 has better games"
    From which console? GBA? cause you really can't compare me neither Wii or 360 tittles with the PS3. Are you serious?

    Im mostly a pc user and i spend some time on playing games and I'm getting and will be getting all I need on Xbox that's for sure and I dont wanna start naming tittles... Is that answer of mine enough for you? I just hate that shit about "ms fanboy trolls". Its like some ppl in here need to grow up for reals. Learn how to deal with the facts. Only reason I dont go nintendo is I dont like kids games.
    Edited by 1 at 08/05/07 @ 06:47

  • smelly #83 5 years ago

    "if anything the ps3 has better games"
    From which console


    From the ps2 at launch in europe.



    "Im mostly a pc user and i spend some time on playing games and I'm getting and will be getting all I need on Xbox that's for sure"


    Erm, if you're a pc user, why do you want a xbox? Most (although admitidly not all) the best games are on pc :-)


    "Only reason I dont go nintendo is I dont like kids games."

    Funny, i consider nintendo to be the only console to get if you dont like games aimed squarely at kids (shooters/fps/racing/other mindless tatt), and actually want some grown up fun. But that's for another discussion.


    But yes.. I agree the ps3 is too expensive, yes i agree it doesnt currently have any decent games.

    But then (as shown in the link i posted) they said the same about the ps2. When it does become cheaper, it'll have decent games, and everyone who has a ps2 will probably upgrade.

    At that point, I'm sure i will too.






  • Big-Swiss #84 5 years ago

    This has become such a joke, you can't read a decent thread without somebody trying to convince other people how perfect the shit is they have, all the freaking time the word FANBOY is mentioned and it is (IMHO) so wrong of use, there are probably fanboys out there, but not every guy who plays something you don't is a FANBOY, I hate that word by now!

    I'm sure every console has its ups and downs, its advantages and disadvantages, and in regards of what your looking for you choose what suits yourself.

    All the XBOX guys who don't understand why guys like me buy a PS3 and what it matters to us to go on board with sony, these guys who need to bash that to yell Fanboy and Tard all over the place, these guys have probably not a lot of Game experience or they would realise its not about what system you got, its about what you make of it. For me a PS3 was the total logical move to make, for somebody else (perhaps a big XBOX gamer, zocker) it is a logical move to buy a 360 and it wouldn't be clever for him to choose PS3. We should respect that more..........

    In the end when I buy a title, practice it and compete Online against the rest of world, then that is all that matters, that is what makes my Gameheart rise, the rest is just details........................

    Acctually this is about a new Sony console, and comment for that is no way Jose I don't need a new console in 18 months, I would be angry if they force me to buy already something new to be upgraded.
    Edited by 1 at 08/05/07 @ 12:03

  • miiiguel #85 5 years ago

    smelly, seesthrougheverything, crouchingtigerhidendragon..., allways the same guys, I bet you were the three guys that actually bought the holy-grill.

    About Halo, you're the only ones who are worried if it's good or bad, Bungie sure isn't. Bungie to gamers is like Sony to the 3 of you - they could come up with big pile of smelly shit, and they'd still sell cazillions copies (on first day).

    So lighten up, and Jump In, or Jump Out (Ken did the later... oh no he was pushed, because PS3 is doing so good, I forgot...).
    Edited by 5 at 08/05/07 @ 11:40

  • bonker #86 5 years ago

    Guys, all this talk of what happened way back when is neither here nor there when you're talking about the current gaming market.

    Sure, you can always talk in terms of there being 2-3 main competitors in the arena but other than that, everything else is different.

    With the tremendous innovation and market-making shown by MS and N in the current gen, Sony are struggling for a USP for their own product - never mind issues of pricing or lack of games. This is what Home is all about of course, to try and generate something unique for the PS3.

    Sony REALLY need to nail Home and make it big. I gotta admit that I don't see anything in it personally but many others may do. Anyway, regardless of what I think, Sony MUST make it work bigtime as currently it's the only differentiator thay have ...

  • SeesThroughAll #87 5 years ago

    With the tremendous innovation and market-making shown by MS

    No. Just no.

  • captainrentboy #88 5 years ago

    Smelly it just occured to me, those various, thrilling different versus scenarios you wrote down, you missed one out, the PS2 Vs Xbox one, except for of course with that scenario what you need to do is swap the PS2 with 360 and the Xbox with the PS3, then that too sounds awfully familiar. Big black monstrosity that's overpriced and really late to the 'party', with a complete lack of exclusive titles.... See we can all do that.

  • Overlush #89 5 years ago

    "Sony MUST make it (HOME) work bigtime as currently it's the only differentiator thay have ..."

    Is it? Perhaps. For me there are many more though: better software and hardware build quality (much smoother, faster and more egonomic interface, no powerbrick, silent running, more sleek and stylish, music visualisations are classy as opposed to gaudy, front loading drive, motion sensing pad), better functionality (Bluray, WebBrowser, USB/ Blutooth Keyboards, Mice and Headsets, Flash Card Readers, built in WiFi, free online) and better BC than anyone else (all PS1 and half/all of PS2).

    This is no girly fanboy lalalala rant by the way, just my own personal list of things and yes, I owned a 360 for 18 months.
    Edited by 1 at 08/05/07 @ 15:24

  • captainrentboy #90 5 years ago

    Yeah it has all that, but it's still selling like shit.
    Why? Because to go against just one of those things you wrote down, it doesn't have the quality software, a console can have all the technical gubbins in the world attached to it but without some worthwhile games than cannot be bought on your competitor's console for a lot less moolah why would people splash out the extra cash for your jack of all trades console?
    And yes that list of features does read out like a tech head's wet dream, not so much for your average 10-14 yr old GAMER though. I mean having a massive list of extra functions over its rival didn't really help the PSP out did it?
    Edited by 1 at 08/05/07 @ 15:58

  • smelly #91 5 years ago

    "Smelly it just occured to me, those various, thrilling different versus scenarios you wrote down, you missed one out, the PS2 Vs Xbox one, except for of course with that scenario what you need to do is swap the PS2 with 360 and the Xbox with the PS3, then that too sounds awfully familiar. Big black monstrosity that's overpriced and really late to the 'party', with a complete lack of exclusive titles.... See we can all do that."



    Eh? PS2 vs xbox eh?

    Okay.. ps2 - 120 million units.

    Xbox struggled to sell more than the "failure" which was the gamecube (around 20 million units). So I fail to see your point?

    ps2 late to the party, expensive, no decent launch titles - went on to sell shitloads


    so where's your comparision?




  • smelly #92 5 years ago

    @miiiguel:

    So anyone who replies to the 360 trollboys on any forum is therefor a fanboy of said machine?

    So now im a ps3 fanboy? Makes a change from being a wii fanboy i guess. sigh.

    READ MY LIPS RETARD: I dont own a ps3, and have no intention on getting one until they're cheaper with more decent games available. But to therefor presume the ps3 is going to fail, well that aint gonna happen - no matter how much you wish it will.

  • miiiguel #93 5 years ago

    your guys are nervous, and agressive. I do not offend u guys, not my style.
    PS3 is da best, it's selling multi-billion units every second, it has a magnificent library, and 360 is da suxors...

    Happy ?
    Peace!

    /hands a xanax to fellow gamer/
    Edited by 2 at 08/05/07 @ 17:39

  • captainrentboy #94 5 years ago

    Maybe it was my wording Smelly, or maybe something else, but it seems you misunderstood my wonderful Vs scenario post. I'm fully aware of the original Xbox's maaaasive failure in the industry, which is why I then childishly put a couple of similarities between that console and the PS3 and made it into this this generation's new VS scenario.
    Ahhh I'm only messing anyway, to be honest I couldn't give two fucks which console wins which silly war, I'm in far too much debt and work in too shitty a job to worry about which massive company makes the most money over the next 5 or so years.
    I own a 360 it keeps me entertained but I'm quite happy to admit that it's the most shoddily put together console ever released, and Microsoft are facking scumbags for not owning up to the problem.

  • miiiguel #95 5 years ago

    note: I do like beeing called "a boy", when you're 34 it feels nice...

  • Overlush #96 5 years ago

    "Yeah it has all that, but it's still selling like shit.
    Why? Because to go against just one of those things you wrote down, it doesn't have the quality software"

    Is it not a little harsh to be judging it's library after so little time on the market? And I wouldn't go so far as to say it's 'selling like shit'. Anyhoo, your argument doesn't seem to hold water when you think about the Wii: selling like hotcakes but naff all 'quality software' to play on it.

    It's going a bit slow because it's expensive, but that will change in time, as will it's library. Both for the better I might add!

  • captainrentboy #97 5 years ago

    Don't get me wrong Overlush, like I explained in my last post I'm not some deluded fanboy, Microsoft have messed up a lot with this console, and still are.
    All I'm saying is that I just can't see this shining star on the horizon, PS3 software wise(especially this year anyway), that a lot of you seem to be seeing. And I can't stand by whilst comments like ''The PS3 will probably be leading the console sales war by this Christmas'' without having a little dig, I mean if you're going to say that you've at least got to back it up somehow, and reading off it's impressive list of tech specs doesn't really justify the daft statement. (Which I realise you didn't make btw)
    To be honest when the PS3 hits that magic sub £300 price point I'll end up getting one too, even if it is just for GOW3 and a cheap BR player.

  • bonker #98 5 years ago

    "Is it? Perhaps. For me there are many more though: better software and hardware build quality (much smoother, faster and more egonomic interface, no powerbrick, silent running, more sleek and stylish, music visualisations are classy as opposed to gaudy, front loading drive, motion sensing pad), better functionality (Bluray, WebBrowser, USB/ Blutooth Keyboards, Mice and Headsets, Flash Card Readers, built in WiFi, free online) and better BC than anyone else (all PS1 and half/all of PS2).

    This is no girly fanboy lalalala rant by the way, just my own personal list of things and yes, I owned a 360 for 18 months. "

    Well there's no doubt that from a hardware perspective, the PS3 knocks the 360 into a cocked hat and most of what you've mentioned is hardware-related. I'm coming from a software (i.e. games) perspective though and I'm afraid the PS3 is nowhere there.

  • davisorle #99 5 years ago

    @zuljin

    Why did you sound so logical in your last post? just to comfuse me? :S :p
    Well I still just dont get the fact noone says anything bad about sony's console till you make them to. Why even though they cant afford it they have to wait for a price drop? they dont even consider of the 360 for some reason and that cant be cause 360 sux or has no tittles cause we all know that the best expected tittles (exclusivewhise) are coming to 360... The rest are for both consoles. It just makes no sence to me. I know guys here that are waiting for theps3 price drop and they admit they just have to go sony. They dont know xbox or whatever it is and they have to go PS... They dont care to look at the xbox as a console till you make them or something. Thats what pisses me off. Anyways I dont know if you understand what Im saying... Btw Im 24 as well but I kick a lot of my age out of my workplace cause of the way they act etc.

    @smelly

    Ive grown up in with computers. when I was 9 I built my first own pc and my education stands on pcs. There is nothing more I am intrested in doing in my life and i dont mean to play games. My first and only console was NES even though ive spent lots of hours weekly on my friends gatherings playing games on consoles and stuff like that sinc kids. Now I use my pc mostly for the best looking games to enjoy them on my new hardware every time ( Like cant wait for Crysis to stress out my new pc to max ^^ ). But everything else I rather throw my dvd in the xbox, lie down on my bed and play on my new Samsung (use it as monitor 2 but anyway) . Now I play mostly WoW and Lotro on the pc since I own guilds in both. So thats why i play on a console if it still made sence to you. It only annoyes me that you guys are waiting to enjoy it like nothing else a Halo 3 failure. What are you going to get out of it? If, like you've said, you 'll be getting a ps3 and talking shit already about a game like Halo and calling others fanboys it just looks as if you're trying to heat things up. Cant you understand that? And no I dont cry. I left my country and went 2 USA when i was 17 to live on my own and Ive been in the army. I dont think Ill cry for something you or anyone else would say. You'll figure that out as the years go by I hope.

  • Overlush #100 5 years ago

    "Well there's no doubt that from a hardware perspective, the PS3 knocks the 360 into a cocked hat and most of what you've mentioned is hardware-related. I'm coming from a software (i.e. games) perspective though and I'm afraid the PS3 is nowhere there"

    But it will be in time, won't it? I mean, even if it looses ALL it's exlusives it's getting 90% of waht's coming out on the 360!

  • bonker #101 5 years ago

    ""Well there's no doubt that from a hardware perspective, the PS3 knocks the 360 into a cocked hat and most of what you've mentioned is hardware-related. I'm coming from a software (i.e. games) perspective though and I'm afraid the PS3 is nowhere there"

    But it will be in time, won't it? I mean, even if it looses ALL it's exlusives it's getting 90% of waht's coming out on the 360! "

    Well yes, like any new console, the only way is up for PS3 s/w :)

  • SeesThroughAll #102 5 years ago

    @ miiiiguel:

    Nao me digas que a tua consola maravilhosa avariou-se outra vez ;)


    Seriously, your comments on "aggressive" people, and saying "you guys are the only ones worried about Halo 3 being good". Look up the thread: you'll see smelly is the only who quoted Halo. If I was the least interested in Halo, I would have "Jumped In", like you so subserviently say.

    Don't drag me into your bullshit, k? Thanks, that's all.

    YOU lighten up.

  • Les #103 5 years ago

    "I'm coming from a software (i.e. games) perspective though and I'm afraid the PS3 is nowhere there."

    You're right. But 360 isn't much better.

  • miiiguel #104 5 years ago

    I'm really sorry if you got over-upset, I really don't give these ramblings a big deal, I didn't realize you actually seem to.
    Mostly it's for the fun.
    And about the subverservient...
    I've told you before and I tell you again, I don't even have a Windows PC at home, something that many of anti-MS aren't capable of doing. (allthough I admit I have a virtual machine on my SuSE box - VMWare rocks! - for Zune's sake).
    I wont try to sell you SuSE though...

    Nenhuma das minhas consolas avariram, nunca (sem cotnar com a PSP que tem 4 dead pixels e a Sony recusa-se a trocar, mas isso é outra estória). Felizmente a 360, PS2, DS, PSP (+/-), XBox e Wii funcionam muito bem.
    E é como te digo, infelizmente tenho 34 anos (gostava de ter 18), e os "rants" não são mais que isso. Às vezes esqueço-me que os fans da PS's parecem-se com os Ultras so Porto/SCP ou SLB.

    Isto está cheio de typos, mas tenho de ir trabalhar, se não não recebes a tua reforma ;)

    Edited by 8 at 09/05/07 @ 18:23

  • davisorle #105 5 years ago

    @SeesThroughAll

    "If I was the least interested in Halo, I would have "Jumped In", like you so subserviently say."

    I agree with you and thats what most dont understand that they do. Thats all