New LittleBigPlanet release date
Qur'an thing costs Sony a fortnight.
Sony Europe has said that LittleBigPlanet "will start to appear in stores no later than the week commencing Monday 3rd November in the UK, Europe, Middle East, Australia and New Zealand, on a country by country basis".
The platform holder added: "We appreciate all the enthusiasm surrounding this much anticipated title and we would like to thank PlayStation fans for their support and understanding."
In case you missed all this, LBP has been delayed after last-minute testing confirmed that one of the background tracks includes Qur'an references. Developer Media Molecule prepared a patch, which would have fixed it immediately, but Sony decided to recall every copy of the game worldwide to replace the disc with a new master version.
Media Molecule has admitted to being "shellshocked and gutted" by the discovery, but said Sony felt it had to act. In the meantime, copies of the game that have already made their way into the wild are changing hands on eBay for over a hundred quid.
Sony America has said the game will be released across the pond in "the week of October 27th".
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EPIC FIRST
Edit mind me though my understanding of English is not good.
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I wonder what would happen if someone brought out a muslim variation of the life of brian.
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I thought this as well (and still do to some degree) but apparently it is quite offensive to some muslims, as they're not suppossed to mix words from the Qu'ran with music or art.
As someone over on the OLL forums pointed out to me:
"To indicate how seriously the veracity of the text is taken; if a spelling mistake is identified in a print, the entire print run must be burnt. If a copy of the Qur'an is placed on the ground, the book must be burnt. The book cannot be just thrown away once it becomes unusable and unreadable, it must be burnt. It cannot be edited and updated, only added to, and then only be the prophet."
So yeah, I guess after the whole C of E thing with Resistance Sony won't want anything to tarnish the reputation of their big console seller. Which makes sense from a business standpoint I suppose.
Still annoying, though.
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Fallout 3 has at least 150 hours of play, i think you'll still be screwed!
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WTF is this shite? Just give us the release date and stop pissing us about.
Sony should take a look at MS and how they treat their customers so well.
xbox ftw.
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BASTARDS!
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They are clearly rushing to send the new version out as soon as they are printing them. So copies will not land everywhere at the same time (as a normal launch). It sucks but as special situation
At least this gives me time to play some Dead Space and Fable 2
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Sad...
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Finally. While the date isn't ideal, I've finally got something to plan around. I need to book a week off work.
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Let's just hope the recall doesn't mean a shortage of games come release day.
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It's not as though they have all the discs sat there waiting for a good release slot to put it out there, this has literally happened in the past week. Re-arranging everything to get these discs reprinted in the busy pre-Christmas window has probably taken an awful lot of effort.
I imagine, if anything, that they are just being honest. They will be out when they are out, and I can only assume that for a little while it may be quite hard to get hold of, even when first shipments start appearing.
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Suits me fine as I believe there's only a little game called Gears of War 2 out that week that I want and I can easily see LittleBigPlanet being the more enjoyable of the two games for me because it's more unique. I'm kind of glad that it didn't come out on the 14th though as that's Banjo-Kazooie Day, the biggest day of the year for me, with both the original (I've pre-ordered so I should get it two weeks early) and new Nuts & Bolts game. And nothing else will get a look in once I start playing those! Good times ahead!
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Uproar or not, it was released without any cuts, AFAIK, though.
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Christ, LBP hadn't even launched, and already its been retooled.
Sony can put a set piece inside an abandoned church, but they can't have sack boy sing a verse from the Qu'ran?
as already stated, i wonder what would happen if a muslim life of brian was launched.
anyway, better bring this back round to games
LBP = epic waste of time. i'm still amazed that anyone thinks user developed content is going to equal some massive paradigm shift in console play
it'll be like spore, 4 weeks hype bell curve
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I know it did thats the whole point. We need to stop pandering to Muslims; I am not racist but in 20 years time we are going to be ruled by them if things carry on the way they are going.
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It's not the BBFCs job to judge a film on its religious merits (or lack of), it's safe to say if LBP ever did go before the ratings board, it would have been cleared without any problem whatsoever.
The LBP cut is self imposed, it would have never needed to go before the BBFC anyway.
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The song isn't a parody or commentary on the Qur'an, it takes passages from the book and sets them to music. As far as Islam is concerned, that's the same as idolatry, which is blasphemous - insulting to God or, in this case, Allah.
Monty Python's film, on the other hand, was satire - while it was insulting to the Catholic church and various other denominations, which could be considered heresy, it didn't do anything that the faith itself expressly forbids, so it's not as serious on the scale of theological insults.
I for one am glad to see that the games industry is taking a mature, respectful approach to this problem and removing the offensive material from the game - since it's just incidental music, I can't see this harming the quality of the experience offered by Little Big Planet.
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LBP will dominate the market and cause MS to cry themselves to sleep."
As a ps3 owner, even I find this comment offensive!!!! BURN IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
EDIT @ Aniki - Satire in a way is blasphemous. I'm a Catholic and I find the term "Happy Holidays" used during Christmas offensive. It's a Christian holiday season for crying out loud! If we can live with this without causing riots, why cannot other religions.
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Which is about as far removed as you can get from half the posters in these comments threads, but never mind.
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Cliff Richard's "Millenium Prayer" anyone?
But maybe not deeply offensive for the same reasons, just offensive because it was so bad....
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Forget it, JUMP IN
Fable 2
Gears of War 2
no mistakes, no release date changes...and so much more!
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Satire in a way is blasphemous. I'm a Catholic and I find the term "Happy Holidays" used during Christmas offensive.
I think you're confused about what counts as "satire".
It's a Christian holiday season for crying out loud! If we can live with this without causing riots, why cannot other religions.
It's not just a Christian holiday season, though - there's also Hanukkah, Kwanzaa, and occasionally Ramadan (which changes every year). That time of year also encompasses secular holidays like the new year and (in the US) Thanksgiving. Insisting that Christmas is the only event worth marking seems like a very blinkered view to me.
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"November will be the ending of the XBOX.
LBP wil ldominate the market and cause MS to cry themselves to sleep."
don't trow stones to the air, they might hit you, let me remind you about fable 2(friday)ihihihih, and GoW2...Banjo....left4dead....lips...Xbox new experience (new dash board) ...if i correctly where's your Home???
this holiday season is all about JUMP IN!!!
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No. You're not racist. Just completely fucking mental.
You seriously think that British folk are going to give up ; beer, tits, bacon sarnies and the bookies anytime soon ? More nuts than "they" are to be honest.
Am I alone in thinking Sony have done this purely to protect their profits in the face of a boycott which could have impacted them world-wide ? Sony being massive in Saudia-Arabia and Dubai for example.
ps instead of Life of Brian ... try Popetown for a comparison. Relgions are by definition completely fucking nuts. Just to varying degrees
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Seriously, as soon as I saw that "thing" headline I thought someone is going to complain and the page will get an instant worldwide recall ...
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I don't think you're alone in that view but I think you're wrong.
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Seems over for sony.
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"It's a Christian holiday season for crying out loud! If we can live with this without causing riots, why cannot other religions. "
Christian holiday my arse. It was a pagan holiday before that. And now it's largely a celebration of consumerism.
But - by all means go ahead and attach "little baby jesus TM" to it all you like. After all you have little other chance to get yourself into the public consciousness these days.
Religion - redundant.
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Maybe Eurogamer needs moderators to take action?
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Really accurate analogy that ...
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Twat.
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Maybe Eurogamer needs moderators to take action?
I absolutely agree on this.
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As you succinctly put it "twat".
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Maybe Eurogamer needs moderators to take action?
I absolutely agree on this."
I wonder if we will ever see a 360 thread without trolls like you PUSS3 fanboy?
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"Hopefully there will be no similar problems for 'Popestabber 3d' out in November. "
Really accurate analogy that ...
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Excellent point scoring, you win!
/doffs cap
I'm happy to live and let live - a few days extra wait for a videogame isn't a big price to pay for the possible offence this song could cause. But this isn't the place for reasoned debate is it?
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As you succinctly put it "twat". "
Sorry mate lol.
I've just typed an enormous amount of words on why I think Sony reacted the way they did in the 400+ comments article on the front page of the site and didn't want to go through it all again! Please feel free to check it out on the last page and to slag me there
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We live in a world where we have to bear in mind the wishes of different faiths and belief systems. It's not always easy, but most of the time it's not hard either.
Most games developers avoid religious imagery in their games because it makes publishers nervous and can annoy consumers (including Christian imagery). You'll more often see things that hint at religion (stained glass windows, for example) than actual icons or real religious symbols. This is a deliberate choice.
To me that says that our industry needs to grow up, get some balls, and deal respectfully and intelligently with religious themes in our games and stories, but I guess we're just not that artistically grown up yet. That's probably a discussion for somewhere else!
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It's a UK gmae so surely that falls under SCEE juristication, so why are we getting it later?
I suppose im not on Sonys franlky retarded n spineless PR team so I'll never know what makes them think they will have less backlash on delaying the game than the complaints for having a song that is - easily patchable/ Penny arcade suggestion; Mute-able.
Why cnat they jsut send out a ton of stickers saying "Warning: May offend those of Muslim faith", it covers there arses , no need to reprint a ton fo disc for the sake of one song and no delay. Then jsut ship the already available patch.
Also is it jsut the way ive been reading the articles but wasnt it jsut one guy on the forums that poiinted this out, and whay is this song still on iTunes, why is it jsut LBP using the song thats an issue?
Its a shame a gmae like this is gonna haveo t have this stuff surrounding its relious, GTA, Manhunt etc are all fine with scandal, but Sackboys jsut a cute plushy, why does he have to deal with religion?
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No we don't, we live in a world where all but one faith just gets on with praying to their imaginary friends without sniffing around for someone to attack or to blame or to find offence.
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For one, Sony is doing the right thing from a common courtesy point of view and quickly making amends for a slight oversight in their music content. They don't have to, but it's just a respect thing. And it keeps their squeaky clean PS3 flagship title... squeaky clean.
As for the common opinion that Muslims get whatever the hell they want because if they don't they'll start rioting... get an education. We've all been programmed to think like that, it's how our governments get what they want.
LBP has nothing to do with that though, so just shut up and be patient.
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""Quran thing? Show some respect. "
Seriously, as soon as I saw that "thing" headline I thought someone is going to complain and the page will get an instant worldwide recall ... "
Odd really as it is very much a "thing". I guess the first poster has some special, derogatory meaning of "thing".
[link url=http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/thing
]http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionar...[/link]
1 a: a matter of concern : affair
2 a: deed , act , accomplishment
I'd say it fits both uses of that word; it's a deed or act that has caused concern.
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Feel free to comment further when grammer permits.
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They've started treading a dangerous path here. It's now pretty much open season for anyone to claim something offends them on religious grounds in a Sony product. Failure to act can then be seen as favouring one religion over another.
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If you're advocating that we shouldn't offend each other in general, I'm with you. What we shouldn't do however, is let faith or believe systems or whatever you want to call them that are based on irrationality put restraints on what people can do or expand the freedom of movement of its members. So it's fine if someone wants to be a muslim or a christian or whatever. If however, they want to use their faith to impose limits on the freedom of others (banning exhibitions, music, cartoons, etc.) or putting themselves above the law (e.g. disregarding conscription, slaughtering animals without regards for the general laws concerning food processing) the line must be drawn.
Because no matter how you put it, religion is socially accepted insanity.
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"Because no matter how you put it, religion is socially accepted insanity."
Very well put. I might quote you on that later.
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We've already found those. Getting ridd of religion would remove one particularly vicious reason and will take part of the sting out of wars fought for other reasons as well.
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Difference of opinion no longer counts.
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Sony, common courtesy? If Sony had any common courtesy or respect they would not have lied to all religions about how the PS3 would change gaming on release. Only to change their minds once they'd sold to the easy 10 million or so, and say it will be the latter half of their now 10 year plan before we see those truly groundbreaking games and services.
I say if Sony have any common courtesy and respect for any religion, then pull the PS3 from sale and do a re release with the truth, and what we can really expect.
Sony's marketing, fake websites and roach bating, seems like the work of the Devil. If that doesnt offend you, then how about the news of reducing the PS3 price by more than 50% of the original this xmas? So thats 18 months of slightly inferior Xbox 360 ports, over priced HD movies, and 1 month of finally their flagship game LBP (fingers crossed) all for a loss of £225.
God Bless
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""Quran thing? Show some respect. "
Seriously, as soon as I saw that "thing" headline I thought someone is going to complain and the page will get an instant worldwide recall ... "
Odd really as it is very much a "thing". I guess the first poster has some special, derogatory meaning of "thing".
[link url=http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionar...
]http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionar...[/link]
1 a: a matter of concern : affair
2 a: deed , act , accomplishment
I'd say it fits both uses of that word; it's a deed or act that has caused concern.
"Issue" would have been better
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What's crazy about a predominantly christian culture being afraid of islam and judaism?! They're the competition. It would have been strange if christiaphobia had been prevalent around here. Or islamophobia prevalent in the Middle East.
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EXACTLY!
"Islamophobia and antisemitism are both crazily prevalent views in Europe."
What is Islamophobia? Feeling afraid and conscious as a result of having already been target of terror and further threats of mass killing is not a phobia to me! A lot of ‘moderate Muslims’ argue that terrorism must be separated from Islam and that terrorists do not represent all Muslims. However what they don’t seem to understand is that moderate Muslims in the west form a tiny fraction of 1.3 billion Muslims in the world. I'd like to know why every single extremist planning or attempting acts of terrorism in the west since the turn of the century has been a Muslim and not a Jew or a Christian or a Buddhist or whatever? Why have a great number of the so called ‘moderate Muslims’ failed to condemn the loss of human lives at the hands of their less moderate fellows?
If Islam is indeed what we see today then I’m Islamophobic and so are many free thinking people who think Europe should stay Europe.
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We should be glad the guy wasn't offended by the human caricature that's Sack Boy. One of the reasons islamic art in general depicts patterns rather than figures is that they fear depicting humans is idolatry... Of course such a claim would have been self defeating for the complainer as he wouldn't have been able to play video games anymore. That's the problem with religion: pick and choose without any rational underpinning.