New 360 Wi-Fi adapter priced, dated

By Tom Bramwell Published 11 November, 2009

£59 for 802.11n support.

Update: Microsoft has told Eurogamer that the new adapter will launch in the UK on 20th November priced £59.99.

Original Story: Microsoft has announced that the new Xbox 360 wireless adapter will go on sale in the US this week for $99.99.

The new adapter is a dual-antenna effort which supports the 802.11a/b/g standards and the new, faster 802.11n.

The latter will be necessary for anybody who hopes to stream 1080p videos over the Zune Marketplace when that launches.

We've asked Microsoft UK for news on a local release date and pricing, but have yet to hear back. The new adapter is currently not listed by UK e-tailers.

Wondering what it looks like? Cast your eyes a few inches downward.

'New 360 Wi-Fi adapter priced, dated' Screenshot 1

Bigger, faster, hopefully not pricier.

Picture of Tom.

About Tom Bramwell

Tom is Operations director of Eurogamer Network and Editor-at-Large of Eurogamer.net. He joined the company in February 2000.

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  • BartonFink #1 2 years ago

    So it will be somewhere around the same price as the original one when it came out at around €80.
    Very pricey indeed.

  • Earlyflash #2 2 years ago

    Blimey,not exactly cheap! Better to get a normal wireless bridge, since at least then you can use it on other devices.

  • MORZTAN #3 2 years ago

    That price is borderline insane!

    Even Nintendo would flush, if they demanded that.

  • Darren #4 2 years ago

    Ha... Microsoft really do love their absurdly overpriced peripherals, don't they? :o

  • BartonFink #5 2 years ago

    Should have been in the machine from the off. But hey they do need to make a few pennies ;)

  • sweetcheeks #6 2 years ago

    i dont believe the draft n standard wasnt available back then bartonfink,
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/09 @ 08:58

  • mkreku #7 2 years ago

    But wouldn't that put it (the Xbox 360) over the price of a PS3, which has this functionality built-in from the beginning? I don't understand this price at all.

  • Widge #8 2 years ago

    One advantage over the PS3 is that its a modular upgrade. Its nice have wifi built in but there is no upgrade path now.

    Pros/cons of both methods there.
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/09 @ 09:01

  • miiiguel #9 2 years ago

    mkreku, PS3 doesn't have 802.11n.

  • BartonFink #10 2 years ago

    @sweetcheeks

    Errr yea obviously I was talking about wireless should have been in the box from the off.

    Widge does have a good point about the modular updates though. Bloody expensive ones though.
    Slightly more expensive than the current one would probably be reasonable. Current price €45 so around €55 anything more is taking the Nintendo.
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/09 @ 09:05

  • Horse #11 2 years ago

    No way I'd buy something like that, it's more than the price of a good wireless bridge! I've my 360 hooked up to a wireless bridge, along with a Popcorn Hour, with two more ports free for a PS3 or whatever else.

  • skillian #12 2 years ago

    One advantage over the PS3 is that its a modular upgrade. Its nice have wifi built in but there is no upgrade path now.

    The PS3 has USB ports, no? The wi-fi is just as upgradable as an Xbox.

  • Doctor_What #13 2 years ago

    Ouch. My wallet hurts just thinking about that. I guess it's just as well that I use the PS3 for all my media.

  • skankmustard #14 2 years ago

    Joystiq reported them being on sale in the UK a few days ago:
    http://ww w.joystiq.com/2009/11/09/xbox-3...

  • actionfitz #15 2 years ago

    "We've asked Microsoft UK for news on a local release date and pricing, but have yet to hear back. The new adapter is currently not listed by UK e-tailers. "

    well going by the past...
    $99 will = £99.
    good old micro$oft, who cares what the real currency conversion is... they know better.

  • miiiguel #16 2 years ago

    @Doctor: you still need to buy a 802n if you stream HD.

  • StooMonster #17 2 years ago

    miiiguel: or use a cable.

  • miiiguel #18 2 years ago

    @ Stoo: duh...! Of course, but that's kinda off-topic, since we're debating wi-fi prices ;)

    @ Earl, 12 quid for a 802n, where? I'm looking for one.
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/09 @ 09:48

  • Widge #19 2 years ago

    Oh yeah, the PS3 does have USB, but I'm a bit against having all sorts of dongles hanging out of a console. One box lover.

    I've got a keyboard and the headset dock hanging out at the moment and thats more than enough for my liking. Thats why I was never a big fan of the 360 add on drive.

    BUT as I say, pros/cons for either method. Lots of people aren't one box solution lovers like me... preferring to buy a basic box, bolt stuff on as time goes along as desired.

    Sony got it right with the HDD design though, universal and simple. Well, unless you use a motorised screwdriver and bork the caddy!

    /is idiot

  • Widge #20 2 years ago

    My solution to no N draft - I stream music, photos and SD, I copy across HD files. Doesn't take too long and with 320GB to play with, I'm not crying for space.

  • StooMonster #21 2 years ago

    What's wrong with using LAN cables? No bandwidth problems for HD streaming.

    I ran them all over my house for things that are in a fixed position, such as games consoles, my AV rack has six Cat6 cables feeding into it. I only use wireless for things that move, such as laptops and mobiles.

  • FooAtari #22 2 years ago

    That's what I do Stoo, not a huge fan of wireless. For both consoles and two desktops I have cables running all over the place under the carpets.

  • miiiguel #23 2 years ago

    @ Stoo: chicks don't dig cables across the living room.
    Anyway, it really depends, if you can use cables is always a better option in a technical standpoint, if you can't - for aesthetics sake - wireless is a must.

  • Skurmedel #24 2 years ago

    It sounds pricier... bloody $100, and that's in the USA. Gonna cost a fortune over here.

  • FladgeMangle #25 2 years ago

    Why is everybody who says it's expensive being marked down?

    Stop being needy. It IS an expensive peripheral. However, if you're the sort of person who gives negative feedback to the truth you'll probably buy one at any price.

  • onyxbox #26 2 years ago

    Everyone knows 'tru' gamers use wired... Wi-Fi latency will kill you in a game of CoD MP ;)

  • Skurmedel #27 2 years ago

    More than likely what will kill you is having a "yellow" ping in MW since you ended up with a US host for the fifteenth time.

  • GamerG #28 2 years ago

    I wish you could filter out "wireless" players on games to help with latency

  • Retroid #29 2 years ago

    Christ.

    Just integrate it like everyone else and be done with it.

    /Wouldn't use Wifi on anything other than a handheld / portable anyway

  • davisorle #30 2 years ago

    LOL this is so funny really.. Cause on an american website they announced yetserday that this adapter has been spotted only on a UK store... at the price of 49. Ill go find a link for you guys and to be added in the article if you want it..

  • davisorle #31 2 years ago

    [link url=http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Xbo x-360-Wireless-Adapter-802.11n,9023.html
    ]http://ww w.tomshardware.com/news/Xbox-36...[/link]

    There is the link and its priced @ £49. Acording to the link this is tracked from a UK at Asda retailer. Also mentions that's owned from Walmart which i had no idea about it nor that Asda excisted by im not from UK :)

  • StooMonster #32 2 years ago

    miiiguel: meh. Do a proper job, trunk cables under the floors and through walls. ;) No cables visible in my place, even speaker and video cables are trunked and not visible. :)

  • aegisuk #33 2 years ago

    I don't like wireless much as I've got quite thick walls in my house and it interupts the signal. But I don't like cables much either.

    I've got my xbox using a powerline adapter plug and it works a treat. No cables and no signal interuptions.

  • interceptor #34 2 years ago

    Went into my local ASDA last night and its in stock for £49.99 (which equates to around $80 so we're getting it cheaper than the US!)

    Still too expensive though...

    Not that I care, cos I have my Xbox hooked up to the router via the ethernet cable that the console came with :p
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/09 @ 12:33

  • smernicki #35 2 years ago

    loving the evil-anime-cyborg-rabbit-head design

  • Skurmedel #36 2 years ago

    Not the stupid wireless VS wires debate again, if they had one in it it wouldn't do any harm. I'd wager there's far more expensive stuff in the console than a fucking WiFi-chip. No matter what you think of using wireless, it doesn't constitute an inflated price.

  • Eraysor #37 2 years ago

    Thank god my Xbox is only 20cm away from the router. I'd hate to have cables running everywhere.

  • Eoin #38 2 years ago

    Oh yeah, the PS3 does have USB, but I'm a bit against having all sorts of dongles hanging out of a console. One box lover.

    Then you are surely against this adapter as well? Not sure why you are saying that this is an advantage of the 360 over the PS3 - it's an add-on, it's significantly over-priced, and you can get an ethernet bridge that will work with the PS3 (and/or Xbox 360) for less money. There is the small advantage that this adapter is going to be a tiny bit easier to set up, but other than that, either the consoles are level on this field, or else the PS3 (with its built-in wireless and gigabit ethernet adapter) edges out the 360 slightly.

  • smernicki #39 2 years ago

    sorry for the n00b question but do you have to buy a new router as well? will this improve performance for gaming or is it only really regarding streaming audio/video?

  • kangarootoo #40 2 years ago

    This is fully taking the piss. A standard non 11n USB wifi adapter can be found on ebay for about a fiver. Its not that big a step up tech wise.

  • kangarootoo #41 2 years ago

    @smernicki

    Yeah, your router needs to support 802.11n as well if you want the full benefits.

    And it should improve the performance of everything, but by how much its hard to say (wifi performance is not an exact science due to the pronounced effect of the environment).
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/09 @ 12:57

  • muscleblade #42 2 years ago

    Cables are better than wireless because it doesnt expose you to EMF radiation. EMF Radiation and health is an issue getting bigger and bigger. Better to be safe than sorry. Asbestes was a great material back in the day too remember.

  • kangarootoo #43 2 years ago

    @muscleblade

    Mobile phones are hands down the bigger problem there (if indeed there is a significant problem).

  • smernicki #44 2 years ago

    thanks kangarootoo!

  • moggsy #45 2 years ago

    Just buy a couple of 'home plugs'. Cheaper and better.

  • bioreit #46 2 years ago

    Used wifi on my main 360 right up until a month back - no issues with CoD4 at all!

    To be fair, my router is about 4 feet away from the 360, so never had lag (unless my b*st*rd housemates started using up the wifi bandwidth!) And this is with Be* broadband giving me 14-16 Mbit/sec - still plenty of capacity available even if the rate dropped to 36 or 24 Mbit/sec.

    Price-wise the N adapter is a bit too steep - I think £40 max to be honest - but I do like the modular upgradeability of it compared to the PS3. I was toying with the idea of buying a N-capable router a year or two back, but decided against it because only my 360 (via the A band) and one of my netbooks (N) would really benefit. If the PS3 either had A or N or the ability to upgrade the wifi, I probably would have gone for it.

  • muscleblade #47 2 years ago

    @kangarootoo

    Mobile masts you mean?

    Its true that the phone itself has larger amounts radiation, but only in conversation. The wireless router exposes you with a lower amount over a much longer time period. If you never turn it off ( many people live it on at night when they sleep). Its up to 24 hours exposure. Not 10-30 minutes.

  • kangarootoo #48 2 years ago

    "Just buy a couple of 'home plugs'. Cheaper and better."

    Great point. They work a treat most of the time. My parents have some supplied with their BT broadband and they have never had a problem with them. I've used them in hotels occasionally too (back before wifi was common) and they were always fine.


    In fact I was worrying that when I move to a new place wifi might be an issue, but I could just hub everything together and run it through a pair of home plugs. Yay for the reminder of their existance :)

  • Toothball #49 2 years ago

    Ah, that's the same price as the old one. I wonder if they'll be selling that one cheaper or just killing it off entirely.

  • muscleblade #50 2 years ago

    "Exposure to electromagnetic radiation has been documented to have major biological effects on living tissue. The exponential increase in the use of wireless technologies will most likely present serious, global public health consequences in the near future. Despite mounting evidence of severe health effects, the scientific facts are generally ignored by most governments. For pure commercial reasons, the telecom industry continues to refer to outdated and irrelevant safety standards, blissfully endorsed by their respective regulators."

    I have kids, so i need to consider this to a certain degree when i can.

  • kangarootoo #51 2 years ago

    @muscleblade

    Ther whole lot. Masts are an issue. And as you say the output of a phone during conversation is huge. Not sure what the levels are like during standby.

    Interesting article.

    [link url=http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/may/21/bbc. broadcasting
    ]http://ww w.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/m...[/link]

    From that same article.
    "The Health Protection Agency says a person sitting within a Wi-Fi hotspot for a year receives the same dose of radio waves as a person using a mobile phone for 20 minutes."

  • kangarootoo #52 2 years ago

    @muscleblade

    Always give a source for quotes dude. Without a source, the quote cannot be recognised as having any value. It could have been written by anybody (and that particular quote looks suspect already, due to its "the scientific facts are generally ignored by most governments" generalism).

  • mcmonkeyplc #53 2 years ago

    Take a look at the price tards. Like I said in the natal thread £1 does not equal $1.

    The number of people on here that seem to get that mixed up is frankly scary. Before anyone else says "tell MS that", someone clearly already has!

  • Sunyavadin #54 2 years ago

    My entire flat is wired, with 2-4 cables in the network trunking of each room.

    Working out at about £40 LESS than one of these costs, to wire up BOTH my XBoxes, AND up to 6 friends' boxes when I have lanparties.

    Yeah, sticking wired for now. Even the cheaper third party ones cost more than my network set me back.
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/09 @ 13:25

  • muscleblade #55 2 years ago

    @kangarootoo

    I agree. Sorry mate. There is a huge conference being held here in norway regarding this issue. I took it from their program.

    <a href="http://www.nmf.no/
    ">http://www.nmf.no/
    </a>

    If your interested this is is very interesting reading.

    <a href="http://www.bioinitiativ e.org/
    ">http://www.bioinitiativ e.org/
    </a>

    Norway is the worlds leading country for new wireless technologies so its a huge issue over here. There isnt a building that dont have tons of mobilemasts for different frequencies including Tetra on the roof. Every phone company need their own masts for competition purposes. Many people are getting ill and brain tumor cancer is exploding. We dont know for sure if there is a connection.

    Btw. Mobile phones in stand by is not a problem unless youre sitting in a car with the phone on you as it needs to find new masts all the time to keep the connection up.
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/09 @ 13:32

  • mkreku #56 2 years ago

    Woah, I had no idea the PS3 didn't support n (or at least draft-n). Colour me disappointed.

  • JahB #57 2 years ago

    Just integrate it like everyone else and be done with it.

    no thanks. my entire home network is wired, i don't want to pay for the inclusion of a device i don't need. the price for the thing may be outrageous, but it's still better than forcing it into the box and raising the price for that.

  • muscleblade #58 2 years ago

    Cables are cheaper, better (more reliable) and safer. Its a no brainer. Oops!!! Sorry.

  • canIdoyabombsforya #59 2 years ago

    So they subsidise your 360 console, and you moan when they have to claw back some profit.

    Will the moaners please buy a PC in the next gen.

  • swissorc #60 2 years ago

    Can anyone send me a link to an idiot proof alternative as I want to setup my gf's 360 (has to be wireless sadly) so we can play together (no pun intended). Nothing too techy because although I'm no pleb I have little experience setting up networks.
    Cheers happy gaming all

  • Tonka #61 2 years ago

    buy some CAT 5e cabling instead. Seriously..

    Nothing HAS to be wireless
    (well, no 360 HAS to be)
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/09 @ 14:11

  • chessboxer #62 2 years ago

    I wonder how many people will buy this under the impression that it will magically increase their broadband speeds to the maximum supported by 802.11n...

  • kangarootoo #63 2 years ago

    "That's a good price for the sophisticated Techonology involved."

    Really?

    [link url=prd:11314492|cat:Networking">http://www.play.com/PC/PCs/4- /11314492/Buffalo-Nfiniti-Wireless-N-Ultra-Compact-USB-Netwo rk-Adapter/Product.html?&_$ja=tsid:11518|cc:|prd:11314492|cat:Networking
    ]http://ww w.play.com/PC/PCs/4-/11314492/B...[/link]

  • markymark22 #64 2 years ago

    Hmm kinda show's the value for money the ps3 is right now with its wifi and wireless controllers (no batteries required!)

  • markymark22 #65 2 years ago

    Hmm kinda show's the value for money the ps3 is right now with its wifi and wireless controllers (no batteries required!)

  • IronGiant #66 2 years ago

    comical

  • biru #67 2 years ago

    There'll be a cheaper third party adapter in due course. As long as there are people who unfailingly buy official stuff just because it's official, console manufacturers will charge over the odds for it. Microsoft is just doing what everyone else does.

  • skillian #68 2 years ago

    @biru: http://ww w.eurogamer.net/articles/micros...

  • GamerG #69 2 years ago

    I can see why some people do not understand why this is £60.

    It is because they do not understand that Microsoft sales the consoles at a tiny mark up and then makes money on the games and accessories, this benefit also applies to retailers who can sell these with new consoles which means they are more likley to push 360 over PS3 in ads and so on.

    For me Sony invented this business model with the memory card on the PS1, the only reason why we are having this discussion is because Sony bundled a blu ray player in with their machine so the sales price rose and they felt they needed to add stuff in it to justify the cost to people not interested in Blu ray.

    What people have to learn is that wireless is not required and is infact is not recomended for the things you want the xbox to do so not putting it in and charging a premium for those that insist they do makes a lot of sense.

    Besides outside of routers which are extremly cheap the other things like wireless bridges and so on are not completly out of whack with this price, try and find me a wireless print server for example even non N stuff is £60+

  • muscleblade #70 2 years ago

    "The Health Protection Agency says a person sitting within a Wi-Fi hotspot for a year receives the same dose of radio waves as a person using a mobile phone for 20 minutes"

    I know quite a bit about these things. You also receives more EMF from using a vakuum cleaner from time to time than from living 20 metres away from a high voltage powerline. It seems from all the articles and scientific studies ive read that long time exposure without any breaks/rest is more harmful than shorter bursts of higher exposure.

  • kangarootoo #71 2 years ago

    "There'll be a cheaper third party adapter in due course"

    I doubt it. There has never been a 3rd party wifi adapter so far has there?

    MS have always been very closed about their overpriced proprietary peripherals. No 3rd party wifi, no 3rd party memory cards, no 3rd party HDD, no 3rd party wireless controllers.

  • kangarootoo #72 2 years ago

    @muscleblade

    "It seems from all the articles and scientific studies ive read that long time exposure without any breaks/rest is more harmful than shorter bursts of higher exposure."

    No doubt, its a complex subject with a lot of influencing factors.

    Your vaccum cleaner reference, is that 20 from the cable or 20 from the base of the pylon (which is obviously rather tall, further increasing the distance).

    And how long are we talking about vaccuming for (most people vacuum for tens of minutes a week, whereas living by a pylon obviously means near-continuous exposure).

    I bet microwave ovens could factor into these things too, but that (much like the vacuum cleaners I imagine) varies hugely depending on the model in question, as the individual shielding is very influential.

    These questions are all rhetorical really. I am just pointing out that there are a lot of factors involved, almost too many to count, and that for and against studies are both often guilty of just picking the examples that suit their own existing point of view.

    I genuinely don't know whether EMF radiation from wifi is a risk or not, as I've yet to find a genuinely comprehensive and objective study. Maybe I should buy some detecting equipment and survey my own flat :)

  • miiiguel #73 2 years ago

    I bet ppl will look at this and think "oh, it has N. Must be worth the 100$" So sad

    Why sad? It's my money, I judge what's worth and what's not. You don't even own a 360, talk about sad.

  • Bigglesworth #74 2 years ago

    @muscleblade
    I haven't seen any evidence from reliable sources (say, the WHO) to say that exposure to EMF is cumulative, which seems to be what you're concerned about?

    This guy makes a strong argument however.

    edit: ^^ sarcasm
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/09 @ 16:27

  • mcmonkeyplc #75 2 years ago

    THE PRICE IS NOW IN POUNDS!

    Jesus, next one to mention $100 dies.

  • kangarootoo #76 2 years ago

    @Bigglesworth

    A couple of things to say about that website link.

    First off, its a bit full of (to put it frankly) unscientific waffle. What exactly is does "which are at frequencies that disrupt your brain and cellular functions" mean? Disrupt in what way?


    Secondly, and far more importantly, there are two general stages to any scientific observation. Very loosely step 1 is "is something happening", and step 2 is "what does that mean".

    All the stuff about DNA strands breaking in rats only covers step 1. The newsflash is that DNA strands in your brain are breaking down all the time. To paraphrase somebody whose name (and original quote) escapes me, the only stable state is a dead state... something like that.


    This kind of feels like it is part of that much wider set of world fears that seems to have at its heart the belief that we will all live forever if we just look after ourselves. The stuff in that article about the cumulative effects of exposure fails to explain what the effect of that will be within the average lifetime.

    Quite simply, being alive is bad for our health. Somebody observing that XYZ causes some form of detectable damage only proves that damage can be detected under experiment conditions. What I am interested in is what the actual tangible effect will be in the real world within my lifetime.

    The referenced study talks about what happened to the rats DNA, but it did not talk about what that actually means for the rat in question. If the rat lived out the rest of its life with no ill effects, what do we conclude from that?

  • Bigglesworth #77 2 years ago

    Agreed entirely! Apologies, I forgot when making my earlier post that across the internet my eyes can't be seen rolling =)

  • kangarootoo #78 2 years ago

    Ahhhhhh. Now tis clear :)

    Edit: I thought that was oddly out of character for you.
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/09 @ 16:36

  • Les #79 2 years ago

    I'm a big supporter of wi-fi though I have to admit that recently I connected my PS3 to the net via a cable as its wi-fi appeared to sometimes interfere with my SingStar wireless mics. Don't really notice a network performance improvement though. Was great with wi-fi and it still is.

  • canIdoyabombsforya #80 2 years ago

    semitope
    "Sure... wonder why the ps3 doesn't have a crap load of peripherals overpriced to claw back the profits... The 2 consoles are priced the same at this point so any excuse is pretty much invalid. the ps3 still has its bluray, still has its wireless, still has free online, still has home, still has removable HDD; for the same price as a 360 which has none of those. Yet you want to argue its OK for them to charge more and more to "claw back some profit" "

    What a complete tw#t! Sony arn't making a profit but you think my point is invalid? And you ask why they can afford not to have an add on market? Isnt Blu-ray and the killing that industry could be worth blatantly obvious? You do realise how much the DVD industry is worth right? and that's not from giving out freebies.

    This just validates my point, the big 3 console makers all have different strategies, and until such a time it becomes illegal to sell the main system at a loss, then overprice accessories, you have no argument. The release of add ons and high mark ups is also a retail pleaser, it's not just a greed based decison.
    90% of everything else you whingers buy has a nice tidy mark-up on it (including Blu-ray discs funnily enough) TVs, Hifi with much bigger profits than this dreaded wireless adapter.

    Microsoft don't have Blu-ray to make a killing from, hence no free wireless or online play, get it yet? Or perhap you think Sony are a charity? Certainly not to the dying high street shops they're not.
    The Xbox 360 first and foremost was and is a games machine that did not, and still does not need and ons or upgrades. There is no rip off or no scam. Sony may have had the forsight to see people would want media hubs in their living rooms, but when they made this decison, large capacity hard disks were still a lot of money. As it happens, you can now buy better media hubs for peanuts.







  • jimbo118 #81 2 years ago

    doesn't wireless suk for online gaming? Warping and the like.

  • Les #82 2 years ago

    "To paraphrase somebody whose name (and original quote) escapes me, the only stable state is a dead state... something like that."

    And even that is not true, as dead stuff is still subject to the second law of thermodynamics... The only stable state is no state. ;)

  • canIdoyabombsforya #83 2 years ago

    Sparkplug
    "Your argument is totally flawed as you are someone who really believes that MS are some saviour and Sony some demonic company. All they want is your money."

    I've been saying that for years that all they want is our money, but the people Im replying to wouldnt see the logic in that either.
    Where have I shown a preference to either company.? I own all 3 consoles, and like many online shoppers have done so spending 30-40% less than RRP.
    Which part of my argument is flawed? The practices of these big companies are borderline breeching EU anti competition laws and it's sad we only have 3 makers left out of 100s of console makers in the golden era.

    The main part of my argument, that you obviously dont want to see, is if you accept a console for $200 subsidy, then dont moan when they make 30% profit for an add on (that you dont even need ). Certainly don't compare console add ons with the PC market, where the profit can be pennies. And that platform isn't looking too healthy right now is it.
    It's also ironic that the Sony fan boys (or MS haters) love to throw about all these freebies they got on top of a subsidised console, yet the one thing Sony are relying on to dominate and make them a killing, is one the fasting growing areas that people are searching out for free. Blu-ray 264s and ISOs are what all the people buying £60 media centers are craving right now, not dated optical media. Also search forums for mkv PS3, it seems a lot of PS3 owners are pirating the very movies Sony need to make their strategy work.

  • Skurmedel #84 2 years ago

    "I don't care about WiFi but I'm sure gonna tell everybody how much I don't care and how much they should do what I do instead."

  • prettyboytim #85 2 years ago

    Goddammit. 1 week after I buy the old one.

  • MrsPacMan #86 2 years ago

    Use the network point you fucking idiots. Faster and cheaper

  • ogryn #87 2 years ago

    [link url=http://www.ebuye r.com/product/150039
    ]http://www.ebuye r.com/product/150039
    [/link]

    2x 85mbps Power over Ethernet adapters - £30
    5 port switch - £10


    Gets the internet from two stories down up-to my room better than the wifi ever did. And it "just works" in both Vista and Ubuntu. So for £10 cheaper than the standard 360 adapter I get fast internet to the Xbox and a better connection to my PC.

    It's a no-brainer!

  • Skurmedel #88 2 years ago

    ogryn: it works well yes, but it would be even cheaper if one didn't have to buy anything at all :) Still, homeplug is the best alternative I've seen so far to WiFi.

    One could also use a photosensitive diode and a flashlight to transmit the bits by hand, but that would probably wear out your thumb pretty fast.
    Edited by 1 at 11/11/09 @ 22:56

  • MARKIV #89 2 years ago

    £59.99 for the privledge of streaming wirelessly 1080p movies off video marketplace, I don't think so!! It should be free with your first rental. Considering a 1080p movie rental will probably be around 700 points ( £6 ish ).

    Plus the majority of people I bet run the 360 wirelessly. If you've got the 360 connected to your main widescreen tv in the living room, your not likely to be running an ethernet cable.

    The next 360 will have bluray period, otherwise if it's download only it will endup like the PSPgo!


    540 points for 720p HD movies
    360 points for SD movies


    100 500 1000 2000 5000
    £0.85 £4.25 £8.50 £17.00 £42.50
    Edited by 1 at 12/11/09 @ 08:03

  • tnt_2008smum #90 2 years ago

    "still has home"

    God are the PS3 fantards still using this pointless rubbish as a positive!

    And just in case hollow head semitope goes off on one again I think the PS3 is great and that uncharted 2 is one of best games of this generation.

  • muscleblade #91 2 years ago

    "I haven't seen any evidence from reliable sources (say, the WHO) to say that exposure to EMF is cumulative, which seems to be what you're concerned about? "

    There is neither evidence from reliable sources of the opposite. Thats why i mean "better safe than sorry" principles should be applied, especially when it comes to children. Nobody can say for sure that EMF radiation even waaaay below WHOs (ICNIRP) safty standards (that only take bodytemrature increase within 30 minutes of exposure as a health factor) has neagtive health effects.

    Back in the day even smoking was considered safe. Almagam was considered totally safe until last year when it suddenly became illegal here in Norway.

  • tnt_2008smum #92 2 years ago

    I mean, imagine you need a special peripheral to charge your 360 controller. They went even that far...

    Or imagine having to buy a new controller because Sony told you that rumble was last gen...

  • FTM #93 2 years ago

    my local asda had these in yesterday for 49 quid

  • kangarootoo #94 2 years ago

    @Les

    "And even that is not true, as dead stuff is still subject to the second law of thermodynamics... The only stable state is no state. ;)"

    Well quite, if my memory and paraphrasing hadn't been so rubbish my quote might have made more sense :)

  • kangarootoo #95 2 years ago

    And how did this thread turn into yet another 360 vs PS3 shit pile?

    Flinging your poo at each other and ranting on about how each others' arguments "are invalid".

    Freaks.

  • muscleblade #96 2 years ago

    @Kangarotoo

    "Your vaccum cleaner reference, is that 20 from the cable or 20 from the base of the pylon (which is obviously rather tall, further increasing the distance)."

    20 Metres from the cable has a lower EMF exposure (about 5 microtesla depending of cable type) than standing right beside a vakuumcleaner or using a shaving machine. The difference is that living near a cable you are exposed all the time.

    Mobile phone use gives a higher exposure when your in conversation than wireless networks but the wireless network gives you 24 hour exposure.

    Same thing really. Everybody use vakuumcleaners but not many people wants to live near a powercable. Right. The same will become the case regarding mobile masts and maybe even wireless networks in a few years time.




  • canIdoyabombsforya #97 2 years ago

    MARKIV
    "Plus the majority of people I bet run the 360 wirelessly. If you've got the 360 connected to your main widescreen tv in the living room, your not likely to be running an ethernet cable."

    In the UK maybe.
    Please dont make the mistake of thinking the world revolves around the UK though.

    You'll find houses on mainland europe are more advanced and better prepared. New houses come with all the right cables or conduits in the right places. Have far better broadband and cable Tv services and speeds. A lot of the european TV and telephone services require ethernet cables and they will drill them for free to any TV set top box if they're not done already. 10 years ago the biggest take up of of broadband in the world was smaller European countries and they've always had the fastest speeds. All this was done with wires before the wireless trend.
    Speak to any new build specialist and tell them you want HD multi media around the house, they'll design it with ethernet throughout. Ethernet can also be used to replace HDMI cables for 1080p, and its going to get better in the future. Wireless is fine for laptops and phones.

  • tnt_2008smum #98 2 years ago

    "now do you see what i mean people...... patience bears it's fruit and i get a lot more for my money and reliabilty.. thank you for reading my rant."

    Right have you finished? Good, now F**k off!