Home is "best-looking multiplayer world"
Others garish and hardcore, says dev.
Creative director Ron Festejo believes PlayStation Home is the "best-looking" and most "user-friendly" multiplayer world he has seen.
He used the frequently compared Second Life life as an example of a world that has to cater to lots of different system specifications, which is something the PlayStation 3 sidesteps, allowing his team to reach new visual benchmarks.
"Personally, looking at other models, a lot of them are too hardcore, a lot of them are garish in the way they look. I think what we've done with Home is have the best-looking multiplayer world - and actually the most user-friendly that I've seen as well," Festejo told GamesIndustry.biz.
"I think the PS3 platform has given us an advantage in terms of keeping a polished look, and it not to look like Second Life. I don't want to dis Second Life - obviously they've been successful and they have to cater for people with old Pentium IIs and whatever, so I can understand why it looks the way it does.
"So it's not to criticise them, it's just that as a PlayStation 3 online space it was very important that there is a quality bar that we want to hit," he added.
PlayStation Home is the virtual world where PS3 owners will interact with each other between playing games. You will have your own avatar as well as a house to personalise using game trophies, pictures and music from your hard drive.
The service is currently in beta and undergoing considerable changes, with the next batch of updates expected next week.
PlayStation Home is currently aiming for a Q2 2008 release.
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Talking out your arse, says MBar.
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I think what Sony fail to realise is that a MMO game is significantly different from a friends meeting lobby. Home has no RPG elements, level ups etc. etc. In essence, once you've exhausted the bowling and mini games you just end up wondering about occasionally waving or dancing on the spot for a quick laugh. You then exit home and get back to playing your games and wishing for a simply friends list invite!
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Xbox live's functionality and simplicity will be very hard to beat.
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Wearing my cynical hat. While it's not released, Sony can big it up as much as they want without actually having to deliver anything. I wouldn't be surprised if it got delayed again.
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The only thing missing on the 360 is private chat with groups.
But having to walk about to watch a trailer etc.... Whats the point?
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Toy stories graphics...
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Two years ago, people would have laughed at the idea of the Wii selling as well as it has so it could be that Home could do the same for the PS3? Anything is possible but at least Sony are attempting something a bit different from Microsoft rather than directly trying to copy LIVE. And it's free too so you don't have to pay £40 per annum to try it.
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Darren, all my 360s came with a free month, I didn't have to pay to try it. And Silver is free which is basicly Live minus MP.
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And so what if Xbox LIVE offers you a month free, you still have to pay if you want to continue using that service. The PSN and Home are completely free which means it could tempt more people to opt for the PS3 over the Xbox 360, especially if the latter proves successful. Home is exactly the kind of thing that could draw in the casual gamers IMO but only if it proves popular. It could be a big flop but at least Sony are trying something different from their rivals. Home could prove to be a brilliant concept or it could be a disaster, we'll just have to wait and see.
Has anyone tried the beta? If so would you care to comment on your experiences? Fun? Crap? Indifferent?
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Sure, I can agree with that. And your other comment:
"Still at least it's free and with all PS3's having a standard HDD, it means anyone with broadband access can try it."
An HDD is a necessity for me, and free PSN access is definitely a plus. But the thing is, these "casual" gamers, who aren't interested in having games consoles with cherries on top, won't fork out more money for a console with a standard (forced) HDD, to gain access to this "casual" Home, when they can opt for a Wii, or even a Core 360 at a lower price. It'd be different if this was the PS2, with its giant installed base. But it's the PS3, and Sony need to target the "hardcore" gamers, which is where Home can't compete with Live.
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"Toy stories graphics..." It was MS that made this claim and not Sony.
BTW Home won't be the only way of meeting up with friends and arranging groups for games etc. You will be able to do this via the XMB. Users are not forced to use Home.
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"Toy stories graphics..." It was MS that made this claim and not Sony."
Please, nooo, let's not start that all over again (*looks at miiiguel*)
Anyway, back to this topic...
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]http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.ht...[/link]
"The brain of Playstation II is a microprocessor that the two companies have dubbed the Emotion Engine. It is designed to draw tens of millions of tiny polygons, the building blocks of computer graphics, on a television screen every second. As a result, it renders animated graphics with the realism of the movie ''Toy Story'' but in what is known as ''real time.'' That is, it creates movement, characters and entire environments on the fly in response to the movement of a joystick or other gaming device."
And why are you calling names, are we school mates or something ?
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You might as well compare Second Life and Ebay.
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Written by an NY Times reporter and not claimed by Sony themsleves.
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Sorry, but as usual with you, that's utter bullshit. You cuold say the same with MS and their Movie downloads, but you don't because you like them. They're trying to do something different, a way of creating a community in an online network on a console. Plus it has games in it, and is intigrated into games.
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And don't forget the awesome 4D which PS3 is capable of:
"Kutaragi described the shift to the PS3 as a move into the 4D world. The 8/16 bit era with 2D sprites was refered to as "Plane", the PS1/PS2 era with 3D graphics was described as "Space", and the PS3 era was with its, according to him, 4D worlds, was described as "Live" (Space + Time)."
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First off Home looks incredible. That is a given. I have the beta at work and it's pretty cool. Having said that. It's also not very useful for setting up and playing games with your friends. Once you wonder to the theatre a few times, you tend to just jump there as the walking is quite frankly pointless. Once you've seen your home and had a few friends around, it get's quite boring too. We really did end up milling about and doing the dance emote for laughs (wore thin very quickly). The trophy room just plain feels tacky (looks great though) as it's like inviting someone over to view your etchings!
Home is a novelty. Note because it's bad in any real way but, simply because it overly complicates a process that should be simple. The steps should be and I'd argue should always have been.
1. fire up the ol' PS3
2. See what friends are online via an automatic friends check.
3. Join their game if they have that option enabled.
4. Invite them to your game if they are not currently playing their own stuff.
Home makes it into
1. Fire up the ol' PS3
2. Load Home
3. gun through some menues to see who is online and what they are playing.
4. Join their game if the game has the option and they have enabled it.
5. Send an invite to them (if they are in home!). Not sure how this works for people who are not in home as Sony will not tell us!
It's just a strange process to go through for something that should be simply.
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The Dreamcast was essentially beaten, not by the PS2, but by people waiting for the PS2, on the strength of the hype surrounding it. They've been doing the same thing with PS3, and the apparently infinitely delayed Home seems to be following the same pattern.
And my 2p on the matter of home? It looks like one of those cheesey 3D chat programs aimed at teenagers, except this time it launches games. I remember having something like this installed when i was about 13, that let you play music and other stuff from within a 3D environment. Seemed cool at first, but then... I was 13.
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But I agree the competition isn’t great either.
Sony has missed a trick; they should have used Big Little Planet as their social community hub
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SCEA PS3 Announcement May 2005
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I think Sony failed to wake up in time and have spent lots of cash. Now once it's almost finished, they have realised it's a waste of time and are disparately tying to work out how to make it have a point. So they wave their arms and say look at the graphics, look at the graphics, and hope you ignore the fact it's just an over complicated chat room.
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Not made any better by the fact that the graphics engine looks a bit like something that was bordering on looking outdated in almost ten years ago
I checked it out briefly a few months ago, and despite the obvious creativity of some users, it was hands down the ugliest virtual world I've seen in... well, around ten years.
I would think it really shouldn't take much at all to beat that - at least not in the technical department.
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There, there Jedi. I'm sure Sony know what they're doing by creating a protracted, meaningless, 3D GUI replacement for a chat box.
Don't fret.
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Home has every opportunity to surpass Live. Live is a terrific system and one of the few things I think that keeps 360 owners loyal to that machine - it promotes online community, competition and progress; basically turning lots of individual games in to one big online experience. If Home is better, or even on a par, I think there will be little reason for 360 owners to remain loyal past their next RROD.
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Yes. Yes, of course they will jump ship to the PS3 because of Home.
/rolleyes
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To be frank though George you only needed to read as far as 'retarded fanboy'.
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Hardcore software - virtual world full of customisable avatars and user styled content
- trying to be used to capture -
Casual Users - if navigating a 3D world was home to the casual gamer Zelda would be the best ever selling Wii game - which it is not.
** a selectable friends list, contactable, join-able and universal across all system games is clearly the best way to solve the problem - home sounds like nothing more than a gimmick and
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There isn't much in the ps3 vs 360 in terms of exclusives this year. Fair point last year, the 360 had a much better list though I played most on PC. Going forward though it's not really an issue, the amount of titles tied to one format is dwindling fast, it makes no sense commercially to tie yourself to one format unless the hardware manufacturer is paying you a lot of money.
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"Did you read my post? *Live is one of the excuses people put up with the 360's shitty hardware*, Home is designed to address that.
To be frank though George you only needed to read as far as 'retarded fanboy'."
Orly? Link please?
See, I thought people chose (put up with) the 360 because of the games.
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i love it
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Aww, come on Jed, lets be mates. We've both got PS3s after all! It's just that I can accept the issues with the product a hell of a lot more than a blinded tosspot like you can.
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Do we see you exaggerating the problems to make your 360 look like the god of consoles? Yes we do.
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At least I own both the fucking consoles, unlike you who seems absolutely fine in voicing an opinion on a console you don't even fucking own.
Retard.
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You're now defending the 360 console from an attack which does not exist. Seriously, you are nuts.
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Yes. A 2nd life type of GAME will surpass an ONLINE SERVICE. Are you just a muppet or are you deliberately comparing two totally different things?
EDIT: If you want to compare, compare PSN to XBL or 2nd Life to Home.
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"Microsoft - Buying the Industry since 2001!
]http://www.eurogamer.net/article_discuss...[/link]
Posting immediately after the article came up, in an obvious attempt to bait 360 owners. Oh, and nice smileyface touch, like that somehow redirects the intention of the post.
Also, in this very thread, you also said...
"Sorry, but as usual with you, that's utter bullshit. You cuold say the same with MS and their Movie downloads, but you don't because you like them."
At this stage, no-one had even mentioned Microsoft but you thought it prudent to bring them into the discussion, for what reason? Other than trolling, I mean?
And i'll say it again for the stupid kid at the back of the class, I own both consoles. I certainly don't need to 'prove' anything on these boards, let alone to a fuckwit like you, when I have the 'proof' of how good something is, that's already been purchased and sat underneath my 1080p/Dolby setup, right in front of me.
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"Yes. A 2nd life type of GAME will surpass an ONLINE SERVICE. Are you just a muppet or are you deliberately comparing two totally different things?
EDIT: If you want to compare, compare PSN to XBL or 2nd Life to Home. "
That comment makes you look totally misinformed. Home is an upgrade to PSN, designed to bring more functionality and features to the online set-up. Its not a game in the traditional sense at all.
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You are a far worse troller than I have ever been, hell you're worse than 90% of the people on here, on both sides of the fence.
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What? That statement is beyond nonsensical.
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Right.
So, the only thing which really counts is what the multiplayer world can do for the end users. I fail to see the utility in Festejo's statement unless the large majority of end users are "perty graphics now"-junks who need an increasingly stronger visual fix in their games or they never happened.
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An MMO lobby is just weird. I don't have time to log in to a lobby, run around to the pool table and see if any friends are online. I can look at a friends list for that. Much quicker. I also don't need to run around a lobby to recruit people to play an online game. I play COD 4 a ton. There are usually 200k people online. Why do I need to go to an MMO lobby to find people????
I think making XMB better makes more sense. Cross game invites, cross game chat, cross game messages etc, are much more useful than Home. Home will be s a novelty, IMO.
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I think your post sums up pretty well how a lot of people feel.... however, for every person who feels the way you do, there is another that gets it completely (not picking on your post btw, it just made the case for your pov very well, so I'll bag it as an example
The entire discussion can be condensed down into the old cliche "horses for courses". For those non-UK readers who haven't heard that term before, it really just means everyone has different tastes and preferences and what suits one person may not another (it comes from horse racing, referring to different horses running better on different surfaces).
If you set out your specific requirements then it is easy to directly compare Home to those requirements and find it doesn't do the job. Someone else who does get Home might describe their typical agenda howeverv, and find Home suits their needs exactly.
I think there is a difference between seeing that a product does or does not suit your own needs, and seeing that there is a huge market out there for a product based on everyone elses needs. Whether or not I would personally be interested in using Home, I don't doubt there are shed loads of people who very much are.
The words "I don't see the appeal" quite often find themselves been spoken by a person about to NOT make a huge pile of cash, followed swiftly by someone ELSE making a huge pile of cash. Loads of people didn't get WoW, or Second Life, or rollerskates, or rock music. They all did pretty well in the end though, even they didn't appeal to the entire population of the earth.
I think it is too early to judge Home. All I see now is big potential, which could either be realised or not. In any event, my own personal feelings about whether I would use such a product don't stop me "getting it" because I am sure there are millkions of people out there who totally DO want to use such a product.
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Home may be a complete turkey or the next best thing, personally I think it will be a turkey but that's my own opinion and I don't see any need to call people c***s because of it.
Life is too short people......
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Not the games? I suggest you keep quite in the corner over there.
As for Home. I don't personally get it. Then again, I thought the wii would be a fad that would die after the novelty wears off. Look how that turned out.
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As a standalone 'Im in the Sims yey' perhaps it would interest people, I can see that appeal. But trying to integrate into gaming life when I just want to whack on a game, find a mate and play, what on earth will this add? It will be far too time consuming, dare I say stupid, to use Home as a match making system unless there are menu shortcuts which then kinda defeats the whole object of building your character, making a nice house, walking across the late to find Bert and asking him whether he'd like to play a game.
An idea dreamt up by Execs who think this is the way forward. If it were a standalone game, sold to consumers, I'd understand it a little more, as a 'home' or 'hub' I think it's wide of the mark.
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he's down with the kids.
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I used to think the same, never wanted to play against other people as it put to much 'pressure' on my competitive personality, I thought it easier to play single-player the way I wanted
However, the 360/Live setup has made me thoroughly enjoy multiplayer gaming (when it works so well - forget xmas).
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We all know he's a troll, so why feed him? It'll only encourage the little shit. In an ideal world nobody would respond to him and he'd either leave (we win) or blather on in posts nobody can see (we win).