Gears 2 cheaters' Gamerscores wiped Comments by Robert Purchese

What is with the achievement obsession. My mate wont buy any game not on 360 because he doesn't get to add to his Gamersore!

Good news.

I hate cheaters.

Wow, it's only taken IW about a year to sort this out. >:/

"Microsoft declares 'fuck this shit' and sets everyone's gamerscore to zero"

"If you play fair and earn your achievements without glitching or cheating, you have nothing to worry about."

However, If you do feel you need to cheat to earn your little "medals" and make your life better you have everything to worry about.

I don't understand the obsession with 'em. People cheating, scouring the net for early achievement lists, playing crap for easy ones etc. Some of the crap on my profile have 0 against them where they went back and even the good ones rarely have 1000, do I care? no, I have a life and use the time I have PLAYING the game.

Of course I'm not denying it is cool when that little message pops up unexpected (got a 100 wins on SF4 recently, made me smile), but really do they matter that much to cheat.....

/ goes off to search for 1,000,000 flags in AC....

I'm with MisterCraig on this one. I've a modest 7000 ish score, but thats accumulated over a lot of games. Whilst i do appreciate the odd achievement, i never set out to get them all. The most for one game is circa 800 which is incidently on COD4.

I guess this has to do with the may "100" ranks out there in the game.

Ban the fuckers

I like to get most/all the achievements on the games i love. I recently got 1200/1200 on RE5 for example. I loved every minute of it too. Cheating, boosting and doing boring things just to get an achievement is crazy though imo.

They also should paint their gamertags green like they did a year ago, with the gamesaves hack.

What CoD4 cheating are they referring to? Just the glitching? I hardly see that anymore, but then I only play hardcore, maybe it happens a lot on the other modes?

Achievements are just the modern equivalent of high scores... people used to be obsessed with beating those too.

So lets see Ms/Epic. You release GW2 with broken multiplayer, you do nothing. Release and charge huge amounts for 3 maps and extra gamer score, multiplayer still broken. Now your trying to fix by removing scores from people that were stupid enough to pay you for it? Great !!! Its not peoples fault epic have terrible network coders.

LiveForever easy way to fix MP is do what I did.

Trade it in for something that works and when the inevitable GOW3 comes along don't buy it. That's my plan. ...

Cheaters everywhere, u seen the times on Left4Dead Survival mode??

Just demotivates people to even try.

Does this include buying Avatar to get an easy 1000 points?

/runs and hides from the MS eye

@Raajaa:

My friends and I have an agreement that if any of us are caught with Avatar in our list of games played, that person would be permanently ostracised. I don't think anyone here would be wrong in clicking that Ignore Poster button.

@TruWari3r - yeah that was my most immediate thought as well, and I've come across about 25-30 people online with it. Only about 2-3 of them I'd say were actually good enough that they might have a chance of getting that far legally (given time). As I know a few on my friends list who glitched it, have to see if they've still got it or not later this week...

Still wish they could do something about the lag switching...

I'm with bad09 on this one. I have one game with the full 1000 and that's phantasy star. Just completing the game gives you the 1000 as the main story doles out the points for each boss beaten. There is litterally no way NOT to get 1000 on phantasy star. Other than that I don't have a single game with the full amount of points. I play for the fun of it and rarely actively look for the extra points.

I guess achievements are good as they let you prove you've done something in a game when everyone is calling you a lair. They shouldn't be the sole aim for playing a game though as that's just plain silly.

I can understand both sides of the Achievement obsession arguement. I used to hate the idea of the achievement points but rather liked the actual achievements themselves as it adds to the longevity of a game without having to resort to multiplayer. It gives me extra things to do and I feel I get more of my money's worth out of a game. Of course, that's not always true with every game but for the most part that's how it is.

As for the points obsession. It's a leaderboard thing. A friend of mine started a mini leaderboard which included myself and many of his friends. Consequently I now know most of these people as actual friends. On a larger scale of hacking save files to have the highest score in the world... well that's just retarded.

i have a ps3

It's not the score that counts, it's the achievement itself and what it takes to unlock.
Only fools look to the overall score...

I have my 360 since 2006 and I only recently reached 20 000gs.
I like to complete my favourite games and unlocking challenging ( not ridiculous ) achievements.

@Mayhem64

Well let's just think this through, new title update, everybody played a lot of the game and the new maps, ranking up went quickly

Yet still I didn't see anyone above 30

Then all of a sudden a lot with the "100" and claim they have it "legit".

I play this game everyday and I see a lot of 50, 40, 30 and below. I've seen a couple of 60's but no 70's, 80's or 90's.

I've seen a whole lot of 100's, more 100's then 50's. Since each next rank needs more xp that's just not feasible and I assume this pisses epic off severely since this might hamper their matchmaking and it means there's no more punishment for quitters (quitting is minus xp but once you're a 100 this doesn't matter anymore).


Regardless though, I wish they would spend more time fixing the lag. I really notice it when I'm playing with yanks instead of with other Europeans unless it's on the very rare occasion that I'm host.

"What CoD4 cheating are they referring to? Just the glitching? I hardly see that anymore, but then I only play hardcore, maybe it happens a lot on the other modes?"

I imagine they're finally going to do something about the modded controller gimps. I think Treyarch already have in WaW.

"It's not the score that counts, it's the achievement itself and what it takes to unlock.
Only fools look to the overall score..."

Exactly, Survive 1 million on Geometry Wars > any other achievement

"What CoD4 cheating are they referring to?"

You can do the GoW glitch to gain achievements on COD4, i.e. change account, finish one mission and get all the achievements.

I really don't see the point myself, playing games and cheating to win must take the fun out of winning, as for achievements they are just a side effect of me playing games I don't really care for them.

so is this an Xbox360 fix only? I am not sure about the top 100 list in COD4 on the ps3 either to be honest... maybe they should have a closer look at the stats there as well. (talking about the online lot).

maybe there is no cheating on the PS3... I highly doubt that though, some of the fuckers ppl on there are blatently invincible ;).

Good news for CoD4. It's been really grating my goat of late, as there have been some arseholes playing who just float around the map ending with 100+ kills for no deaths. I personally don't see the appeal...but it'll be good if they get kicked off...

As with games as with reviews as with everything ever: If you add rankable numbers to something it automatically becomes a tard magnet.

Many people doesn't seem to understand what is cheating and what is not:

Following internet walkthroughs to get 1000/1000 points -> no cheating.

Leaving multiplayer game on for the night while you sleep to get "Play five hours online" achievement -> no cheating.

Taping firebutton stuck to get imaginary "Fire million bullets" achievement -> no cheating.

Hex-editing your savefile to get more money, weapons etc -> cheating, may get you banned.

Using savefile downloaded from internet to get 1000/1000 gamer points -> cheating, may get you banned.

@ TruWari3r - what I meant was that only a couple of people I've played who had level 100 were good enough to possibly get that achievement down the road. I didn't mean now as of this minute they could have racked up enough points to get it. Though you don't know, I've seen King Of The Hill gametype abused for points whoring in a large manner recently (basically one team was so much better that they spent most of the game, some 20 minutes or more, killing the other team and deliberately not getting the area points). Highest rank I've seen outside of 100 as of today has been 61. As for myself, I'm sitting on 39, close to getting 40. My original target of hope was to get to 50, so perhaps I'll be there by end of next month...