MS on why FFXIII is coming to 360 Comments by Robert Purchese
It's all about console sales, apparently.
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the_dudefather
08/08/08 @ 15:45
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thread prediction (in order):
1)'no shit' style comments 2)ps3 sucks comments (teh cell lololololol) 3)'enjoy swapping discs all the time' 4)'enjoy waiting 30 minutes while installing the game' 5)Final fantasy sucks anyway comments 6)a handful of people arguing about consoles until the dead of night, unrelated to original topic |
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I remember reading comments from Square-Enix a year or so ago about how cross-platform development would be the way to go because of rising costs. It makes commercial sense to release your games on more than one platform anyway as it maximises sales and this generation has seen evidence of that, e.g. Devil May Cry 4, Virtua Fighter 5, GTA IV (the latter released simultaneously on both the 360 and PS3), etc. There will always be exclusive first-party games but I suspect we'll see more and more third-parties going multiformat rather than supporting a single format.
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MasterNameless
08/08/08 @ 16:01
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Nice one dudefather. Hopefully you've nipped the real moronic comments in the bud!
Although, I must say the comment about Squenix bringing FFXIII to the 360 'for the success of the console' is highly dubious, I mean, who's going to believe that! I think it's probably more along the lines of selling more copies of the game to... err... make more money perhaps?
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PinkSpider
08/08/08 @ 16:03
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Well Obv. The 360 is much bigger in the US from what I've seen data wise and us such they are going to want that money. Heck, if it was equal they probably would too.
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I shall take the "Final Fantasy sucks" seeing how I've been disillusioned by FFXII. :(
I do love how Sony and MS completely ignore the Wii when they talk console figures... I'm not entirely sure with Sony but it does look like MS is only concentrating on the PS3... which has sold less than them worldwide... such an awesome strategy on MS's behalf. >_> |
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mossychops001
08/08/08 @ 16:08
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Square Enix just want a bigger slice of the pie, and after seening how well GTA4 And COD4 have done on both consoles.
Why not! Square Enix shareholders will be pleased. |
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Load of marketing bull, yet again.
And for those bemoaning disc swapping- is that really any worse than having to sit through an install? Disc swapping takes a few seconds, although, yes, you do have to get up. Installs take anywhere from 5-20mins so far, and I'm betting FFXIII will have some kind of install to reduce the load times for battles. And for those saying 'final fantasy sucks' stop talking bollocks and go play some instead of bashing them because its the cool thing to do. Some of the finest stories ever told in videogames have been in Final Fantasy games. though they do have their flaws, I'll admit. Personally, I don't know which platform I'll opt for this on. It might be nice to get the PS3 one and give the PS3 some much-needed attention, but then, I'd rather play it on the 360. But in any case it makes perfect commercial sense to release big budget games like this on multiple formats, especially when their being developed on PC's in any case. EDIT: FFXII did suck, actually. I'll give you that.
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Anyway, by the time this comes out, console sales fugures could be VERY different. Especially at the rate of PS3 sales at the moment and the recent stock shortage.
Given SE's previous record, and how slow they are to send a game over shores... i wouldn't be surprised if MS was hyping the Xbox 720 and FFXIII is STILL not released over here. |
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TheDudesRug
08/08/08 @ 16:10
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I'm certainly not trying to be antagonistic but I for one don't see the Wii as direct competion to PS3/360. It's a quite different product.
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seasidebaz
08/08/08 @ 16:27
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Well, if id can't make any money from printing a game on 3 discs, I don't think anyone will. So, did Microsoft waive the licensing costs (which work on a per-disc basis)? I reckon so...
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galerian86
08/08/08 @ 16:46
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Both consoles going to need game installation by the time FF13 comes out, isn't it? So,this 'enjoy waiting 30 minutes while installing the game' is for 360 and PS3 , well until MS release the new Dashboard
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PinkSpider
08/08/08 @ 16:57
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Im going to be anti fanboy as possible:
- Installing: all fine and dandy, I can go make some food or go on the PC or something. Or just put the TV on. - Disk swapping: I can get off my arse, it takes 20 seconds and disk swapping was not an issue on the PSOne, heck a game having 4 disks was ace. - FFXII did not suck. Clearly enough people liked it. In your opinion you did not like it and it's not how you felt a Final Fantasy should be. Good show. |
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immateriaux
08/08/08 @ 17:01
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"I think the most obvious reason that [Square Enix] made the announcement is just looking at the success of our console"
How do these people say stuff like that and keep a straight face? Some kind of animatronics? Botox-ed from the waist up? It's some kind of talent, though not one I particularly admire. |
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Foregone Reality
08/08/08 @ 17:09
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I loved FFXII..It's just that the ending came when I least expected it.
Oh well. :\ |
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JediMasterMalik
08/08/08 @ 17:11
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I like how he not even a single time claimed that money hats weren't involved. Simply trying to convince us it wasn't without ever saying it. Smart man.
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@Pinkspider - quite true. Neither is really an issue, although I have to say I do prefer the idea of being able to put a disc in and play right away instead of waiting for it to install first.
@evilfoxhound - you only have to install once, yes, but it takes longer than swapping discs hundreds of times. @Pinkspider again - My issues with FFXII aren't related to its departure from series tradition, but rather due to the generally unfinished and tardily put together game mechanics that leave plot threads halfway through without resolving them and require you to grind constantly -often with very little input, if you set your gambits up right- for hours in order to be able to see the next part of the story. So no, it didn't suck - its clearly a well-produced and stunning looking game- but looking at it competely objectively, it has major issues, more so than any Final Fantasy before it. @Galerian - I don't believe MS have any plans to allow any games to require an install. They are going to let you rip games to the hard drive if you want to, but thats a player choice thing, not something developers will be able to insist on, since not all 360's have HDD's.
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designerheadache
08/08/08 @ 18:41
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ms paid for squeenix to get out of their exclusivity contract in US and EUR. But wouldn't fork out for japan since they wouldn't get the cash back. It's hardly rocket science.
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Kazzahdrane
08/08/08 @ 18:42
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I can't believe anyone has a problem with disc swapping in JRPGs. Seriously, if you managed to get all the way through a disc in one sitting you'd need a break anyway! Plus they almost all let you save your game on the next disc before you physically swap, so I usually use it as a good moment in the story to stop playing for an hour or more. Disc swaps (usually) come at climactic moments in the story (guess a story can only really have one climax but let's pretend it's a woman), after beating a big boss or something.
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theindustrialone
08/08/08 @ 19:33
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I assume he is not factoring in the wii when making these statements.
Edit upon reading the comments: Don't give a toss why it is coming to the 360, just glad more people can enjoy the game.
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"I think the most obvious reason that [Square Enix] made the announcement is just looking at the success of our console."
LOL. The reason FF XIII is coming to 360 is because the Wii is kicking the but of 360 and PS3. Targeting two failures is better than targeting one...
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"How do these people say stuff like that and keep a straight face?"
Ill give u some examples: 1st. The delay after delay of the PS3 release and also another delay in Europe. 2nd. Sony made comments on MS selling 360 on 2 versions before they released PS3 during their first 1year release delay.Look at PS3 now 3rd. The revolutionary and "future" of games BR that has only given so far instalations, bricking and not even the same quality graphs on multiplatform games and yet you still suck up on it like a good pet for them. 4th. Check out the PS3 controller oO. Not only they even copied the center-console button in the mid of the controller but also check out the trigers. 5th. Remember their comments on the gamerscore? The achievements in the games for 360.... That NEW feature that came with the last firmware update on PS3. 6th. Sony spokesman bitching about FFIII going to 360. I mean "lol", really. |
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Hugh.G.Rection
09/08/08 @ 07:47
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@davisorle - you had to ruin it didn't you. Also i didn't hear anyone complain about Final Fantasy 3 going to 360?
I do believe FF has to go through some changes to capture the same adulation and regard it has previously held. I'm not saying it's lost any, but the gaming landscape is changing and Square are no longer one of the world leaders in grandious stroytelling, plot and game structure or getting the best out of the hardware. Time will tell. |
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Stepharneo
09/08/08 @ 11:31
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"Disc swapping is so awful I stopped playing FFVII when the "Insert Disc 2" message came up. "
really.....you missed out, thats just when the game gets good. "I'll be toasting Square's downfall with a glass of milk. The traitors." I really do hope that is sarcasm, could anyone really be so unutterably thick, there will be no downfall, the whole reason for this apparent treachery was to make more money, therefore they'll be better off. even if no ps3 owner buys it because of the backstabbing 360 owners will buy it just to have something to shove in the face of ps3 owners, they will of course say it was a crap game anyway. and still the treachery issue, i was not aware that square had to sleep with people in order to make them buy games, and if not then how are they traitorous, you aren't friends with them, they are a company not a person so stfu, damn thats some good venting. |
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"Disc swapping is so awful I stopped playing FFVII when the "Insert Disc 2" message came up. "
Huh? When you bought the game did you think that the extra 2 discs were free coasters or something? Anyways disc swapping isn't so bad. You do it once in the course of a playthrough (more if there's 3 or 4 discs) and you'll probably have taken the disc out to play another game in that time. Installs aren't that much of a problem either - although they are a frustrating obstacle when you've got a shiny new game you're just waiting to play. |
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