MS: Don't hold your breath over PS Home

By Robert Purchese Published 15 July, 2008

Gosen and Lewis pimp Xbox 360 avatars.

Microsoft has told us we "we shouldn't hold our breath" for PlayStation Home because it would be a "dangerous thing to do".

GamesIndustry.biz collared Euro suits David Gosen and Chris Lewis for a chat after the E3 media briefing last night, which revealed the Xbox 360 avatars and the social networking dream.

"So we've got a really active community already, and what we need to do is create an identity for those people. Personalisation isn't really new - we know people want to personalise their experience. Now, the avatars we've got are Xbox avatars, and they have arms, necks and legs, which other people's avatars maybe don't," said David Gosen.

"But that's just the start point. They're appearing in the game, and what you'll see us do more and more is make sure that avatars are truly integral to everything we do. It just goes back to true personalisation and creating a social network that really works and is really relevant to all people."

"What Sony does with Home is up to them, and my advice is that we shouldn't hold our breath, because that could be quite a dangerous thing to do," he added.

Last night Microsoft said it had over 12 million members on Xbox Live, and between them they had spent over USD 1 billion on digital content.

The Xbox 360 avatars and the redesigned Dashboard are due out this autumn.

Head over to GamesIndustry.biz for the full interview with Chris Lewis and David Gosen, where they talk about pinching historically PlayStation-exclusive games and appealing to a wider audience.

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About Robert Purchese

Bertie is Eurogamer's Senior Staff Writer. When he's not hunting down news stories he's often found playing with his kids or gabbling about fantasy games and strange online worlds.

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  • Skurmedel #1 4 years ago

    If we hold our breaths for too long, we may eventually suffocate?

  • Eraysor #2 4 years ago

    I don't care about either. Owned!

  • Arcadiian #3 4 years ago

    "Microsoft has told us we "we shouldn't hold our breath" for PlayStation Home because it would be a "dangerous thing to do"."

    I like that advice.

  • wingzerosys #4 4 years ago

    Micro$oft, big headed greedy b'stard's.

  • FeralUK #5 4 years ago

    Has anyone got pics of the new dashboard?

  • FireMonkey #6 4 years ago

    It's really sad seeing people write Micro$oft (with the $)
    Look I can do it for $ony too!

    Both are big coorporations, and both are here to make as much money as possible. It's what we call 'buisness'.

  • Wash #7 4 years ago

    wingzerosys, blind fanboy.

  • Ignatius_Cheese #8 4 years ago

    Welcome to Mii 2.0

  • FireMonkey #9 4 years ago

    Feral:
    http://ww w.engadget.com/photos/xbox-360s...

  • Execta #10 4 years ago

    Why do they even compare those Mii 2.0 characters into a great looking upcoming community, PLAYSTATION HOME? HOME will be a huge online community for all the PS3 owners, those Micro$oft's avatars are just, well, avatars, and they are even childish looking. Like Mii characters. HOME has real looking characters, own homes and rooms, public areas where to play awesome games like chess, billiard, darts etc. You can go to a movie theatre and watch trailers over there in high-defintion. All the furniture and items in the HOME world has their own working physics and so on.

    HOME is graphically good looking and physically in great shape, HOME is a community. Xbox 360's Mii 2.0 avatars are just characters and even cartoon-like, eh. I would hate to go around with a that lame character. ;/

    Keep your Mii copies, we will hold our breaths for HOME. (And suffocate.)

  • bad09 #11 4 years ago

    I wasn't interested in Home in the first place MS and your Home/Mii rip off dashboard/avatars don't interest me either so I'd keep my mouth shut if I was you......

  • Wash #12 4 years ago

    @Execta

    Err. read the article much? no once does he compare what they're doing to home, he even says what sony do is there business.

    Alot of defensive fanboys on here today aint there.

  • Darren #13 4 years ago

    Hmmm, Microsoft's Avatar concept comes across as a mixture of Nintendo's Miis and some of Sony's Home so there's definitely some liberal borrowing of ideas going on here. Microsoft are clearly hoping to attract casual gamers to the 360 with these Avatars and, to be fair, it does give the whole dashboard a cute and friendly look to it. I like it personally but I do wish that both Microsoft and Sony would stop being so arrogant as to comment on their rival's ideas before they've even seen them up and running. It does come across as rather childish to me, all this "psychological warfare".

  • anomagnus #14 4 years ago

    @ wingzerosys

    Micro$oft, big headed greedy b'stard's.

    As opposed to what? The Peoples company of Sony? The same Sony that GOUGED Europe on prices, for feature stripped kit?

    Sony is a massive multinational as well, with little or no concern for individuals. Its the nature of multi nationals ( i love it!). Dont pretend Sony is somehow a shining beacon of consumer hope.

    As for Home, what a bag of wank. It's bad enough i have to listen to tossers online,without having to fucking interact with them on virtual basis.

    Three types of people will use homeregularly:-

    1) Wankers
    2) 12 year olds
    3) Pedophiles
    Edited by 1 at 15/07/08 @ 10:01

  • monkie_king #15 4 years ago

    This is Microsoft jumping the shark =(

  • DFawkes #16 4 years ago

    Wow, companies are being especially bitchy recently, even non-gaming ones. I saw a weedkiller advert that literally stuck their competitor on screen and said "Ours is better than this other stuff!"

    I know they aren't saying theirs is better, but saying stuff like that is unnecessary.

    What's wrong with just saying positive things about your own machine?
    Edited by 1 at 15/07/08 @ 10:06

  • drumbaby #17 4 years ago

    Home is probably worth waiting for, unlike a pay-for unreliable avatar heavy XMB rip off a la Live.

  • T4RG4 #18 4 years ago

    Home sounds so shit its almost funny. I want to play games with friends, not chat with them in some dodgy virtual sims like world. Avatars from MS, couldn't care less.

  • peterfll #19 4 years ago

    "What Sony does with Home is up to them"

    No shit Sherlock.

  • TheJuriel #20 4 years ago

    I don't want ugly Miis to be an increasingly integral part of everything they do.

  • Xerx3s #21 4 years ago

    wingzerosys: for somebody who claims to be anything but a fanboy...

  • Xerx3s #22 4 years ago

    "Welcome to Mii 2.0"

    AKA: Me too!

  • moggsy #23 4 years ago

    @ Execta

    MS have said before they are sick of competing against vapourware. Where is Home? Is it actually any good? Will people really use it to play 'awesome' games like chess?

    I agree with MS - Sony need to release Home as soon as possible or stop going on about it being some sort of great white hope.

  • Wash #24 4 years ago

    @drumbaby.

    "unlike a pay-for unreliable avatar heavy XMB rip off a la Live."

    yawn.

  • Teamallstar #25 4 years ago

    I bought the PS3 on release because of Home. I can't believe that $ony have screwed their fans this badly. Whenever I used to speak to my friends with xboxs they used to laugh at me. We, we are 18 months further on and still no home. There should be laws against promising something to consumers and then not delivering it.

    I do now have a 360 and am happy to have the P$3 as a DVD player.

    Thank god that at least Microsoft do the things that they promise.
    Edited by 1 at 15/07/08 @ 10:19

  • Altrezia #26 4 years ago

    Tell you what. I hate the console 'war'. I hate the bitching between companies (tbh, mostly from Microsoft's side) and I hate the fanboys.
    I have both consoles, and like both. Both have their merits and their downsides. Why can't we all just get along? I'd rather the companies spent time creating new content and games for each console, rather than stirring up a war, as it'll be better for everyone?

    Hmm.

  • Ignatius_Cheese #27 4 years ago

    @ Xerx3s - D'oh! Wasn't quite quick enough with that one...

    /doffs cap

  • rob76 #28 4 years ago

    interesting to see how much the avatars will cost, seeing that even (most of) gamer pics cost ms points. if they cost any more than a penny, they can shove their avatars...
    I wanna play games not create a "second" life. I'll leave that for saddos.

  • optimusprym8 #29 4 years ago

    +1 Altrezia - I have all three because I love games and want to experience the best of what's available. However my Sony shelf is a lot slimmer than the 360 one. The Wii one even more so.

    But that might change when they release that new dashboard in Autumn. OMFUG!? I want to play games not be advertised to death.

  • bitesize #30 4 years ago


    i won't be holding my breath for either avatar system thanks... anyone with a wii knows it's something you play with for 5 mins when you get it, then never touch again. waste o time.

  • miiiguel #31 4 years ago

    @wingzerosys : "greedy" and shit... are you for real? Economics 101, companies exist to make money and please their consumers along the way - guess what, their doing their shit (pretty well, I might add), shock!. I bet you are no part of this equation as I bet you don't have MS (or M string...) stocks, nor have a 360, so what's your problem ?

    There's a word in eglish for ppl who get upset when a neighbour has a nice car... can't recall which is right now...

  • Freki #32 4 years ago

    At least the MS thing may actually be released. Unlike Home. Which we are still waiting for...

  • Xerx3s #33 4 years ago

    I think that it's a structural communications flaw on sony's side. When you look at nintendo or ms, they usually only start talking about things months away from release (a few minor exceptions aside). If they don't they at least have a fixed date on which it will be released. Sony on the other hand seems to announce something new and then delay it for some time (what is it, more than a year now?).

    It would be ironic if ms released their version before sony did.

  • Psiloc #34 4 years ago

    Quite like the look of this. Seems like it's as simple as it should be, rather than the overblown what's-the-point-of-this Home.

    Crap if you have to pay extra for it though.

  • JediMasterMalik #35 4 years ago

    From what I can tell, Avatars are a complete ripoff of Home, just without the world to inhabit them. And of course the owning your own apartment thing. ;)

    They even took the watching movies, and joining games thing as a group.

    I'm actually amazed more people aren't calling them out for it when they're so quick to call out Sony when they copy shit.

    Actually that shouldn't surprise me at all.

  • Artemis_Matsas #36 4 years ago

    More features is always good to have. My only gripe is that i have to pay in order to play online.

  • Dizzy #37 4 years ago

    I think most people that held their breath over Home died a few months ago.

    /RIP

    Oh yes JediMasterMalik ... Home is VERY original. It has never been done before.

    We had fucking 3D avatars in the 90s for chatting. It just came back recently because all the emo teens want one.

    /Sarcasm
    Edited by 1 at 15/07/08 @ 10:55

  • Xerx3s #38 4 years ago

    banfoi: There is a lot of irony in that post but I can't put my finger on one specific thing.

    EDIT: I find myself agreeing with dizzy a lot as of late.

    /duct tapes dizzy's mouth
    Edited by 1 at 15/07/08 @ 10:57

  • Dizzy #39 4 years ago

    "banfoi: There is a lot of irony in that post but I can't put my finger on one specific thing. "

    I finally got rid of him... I think he was a bot anyway.

  • Tyranix #40 4 years ago

    The tears of Fanboys over this week could bring about the Apocalypse by flood.

  • Teamallstar #41 4 years ago

    @Jedimastermalik

    Doesn't someone need to do something first in order for someone else to copy them??

    Last time I checked Home was just a pipe dream.

    We will be inhabiting mars before Home is released.

  • IronGiant #42 4 years ago

    "Now, the avatars we've got are Xbox avatars, and they have arms, necks and legs, which other people's avatars maybe don't,"

    Wow, just wow.. they have arms and legs and everyfink.

    The fact that he even mentions Home proves they're concerned about it. Sony should take as long as they need to make Home as polished and smooth as possible.

  • knocker #43 4 years ago

    Sometime, someone persuaded suit wearing tossers that having and encouraging rabid bed-wetting fanboys was a "goog thing".

    No doubt a marketing bloke stood up with a powerpoint presentation and referred to these characters as "opinion shaper" or "influential netizens".

    In a desire to nurture this brand loyalty, they set about trying to pour petrol on the flames of fanboy fanaticism by talking shite. And it works. They think that by encouraging this mindset - their little opinion bitches will go out and spread the good news.

    Unfortunately they are only preaching to the converted - and for every new customer recruited two are bemused and slightly scared by the hatred someone has for another persons choice of toy. And they wonder why nintendo with their painfully cuddly image outsell them ?

    In the meantime - cunts in suits keep spewing liquid shit, places like eurogamer spread it for page hits and mouth breathing fan boys greedily swallow it up.

    Ahhhhh. And breath.

  • moggsy #44 4 years ago

    @ knocker

    In the meantime - cunts in suits keep spewing liquid shit, places like eurogamer spread it for page hits and mouth breathing fan boys greedily swallow it up.

    You know another, more optimistic, view on this could be that such talk keeps each competitor on their toes. If this quip by MS gets Sony off their arses that slight bit quicker and so PS3 owners get Home a month or two sooner then that's a good thing no?

    Competition is very healthy for the industry as a whole - and this sort of quip is all part of it, as are the fanboys who are quick to pick up on the slightest flaw.

  • Feanor #45 4 years ago

    The Xbox avatars are so ugly; hopefully Home's people won't be such an eyesore.

  • wewillselfdestruct #46 4 years ago

    Why can't we all just... get along?

  • Yaster #47 4 years ago

    Looks like Microsoft have stolen the title of both rip off merchants AND arrogant f***ers

  • Lemming81 #48 4 years ago

    I bought a PS3 along with my powerhouse PC and Wii for the blu-ray playback and LBP. Anything else is honestly just gravy.

  • CannonAnBall #49 4 years ago

    People are being pissy and whiney about Home but lets look at these avatars - don't be shocked when MS create their own little world just like Home. I mean these avatars have legs and arms and stuff - MS will want to take advantage of these features!

  • penhalion #50 4 years ago

    I'm a fan of new stuff and a dashboard refresh is about due. I've been looking at and navigating these damned blades for years now. I always thought they should have had an interface like their own windows media center from the start.

    I also like the idea of having a Mii style avatar on my 360, seeing as I enjoy the one I have on my wii. It's fun to both create and share with your friends.

  • BobsUncle #51 4 years ago

    "At least people who dont like Home hav ea choice to use the XMB instead."

    Because that so fucking awesome too.

    Zander you suck.

  • hoster #52 4 years ago

    "It's really sad seeing people write Micro$oft (with the $)
    Look I can do it for $ony too!"

    Nint£ndo

    *for balance :)

  • Nithron #53 4 years ago

    People forget that before the whole Mii thing, there were a hojillion websites on the net for pre-teens to go and make a crappy South Park-esque version of themselves from pre-developed parts. So y'know, MS may be ripping ninty off, but ninty weren't even being original in the first place.

  • CannonAnBall #54 4 years ago

    ...and that makes the whole fuckin' avatar bollox alright then?

  • Beano #55 4 years ago

    "AKA: Me too! "

    That was the theme of MS's E3 press event... to clone Wii/Home, SingStar, Buzz, EyeToy, etc.
    It's clear that MS want to get a slice of the casual market, but I'm not sure ripping off Nintendo and Sony without bringing anything new to the table, is the way to go.

    I had bigger expectations of MS after their great 2007 line-up. Gears 2 is the only 360 2008 game I'm looking forward to.

  • Zander #56 4 years ago

    Yes the XMB does suck a$$ - (you can do it with any word!!). But i thought only sony copied off everyone else. Now MS wants a slice of home life?

    To be honest I have my consoles to play games not fanny about making a shite little avatar of myself or have him sit on a virtual sofa in my virtual apartment. I want to kill stuff with chainsaws!

    @Bobsuncle you wish i sucked. You little mincer!

  • BobsUncle #57 4 years ago

    But Metal Gear Solid 4 is better than Halo 3

  • Zander #58 4 years ago

    "But Metal Gear Solid 4 is better than Halo 3"

    LoL

    Also don't play with fire!

  • Teamallstar #59 4 years ago

    Sounds like Bobs uncle has not played Halo 3...

  • Landmaster #60 4 years ago

    I've been calling these "Mii 2.0"s 'Stii's' :)

  • Darren #61 4 years ago

    @BobsUncle - "But Metal Gear Solid 4 is better than Halo 3."

    Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better and at least it ran in high-definition and has anti-aliasing.

    /quickly runs off

  • Dizzy #62 4 years ago

    "/quickly runs off "

    Too late.

    /ignored

  • LHH #63 4 years ago

    Atleast MS has the unified structure of Live, surely that'll help hugely when planning an online community. I take it Sony will be running their own servers when they get Home up and running?

  • kangarootoo #64 4 years ago

    @FeralUK

    There is a movie on XBLM showing it all moving around and stuff.

  • kangarootoo #65 4 years ago

    So this is the future... a Mii with a neck.

    Let me contain my sense of wonder.

    /contained

    In all seriousness, the changed front end looks like it might well improve the experience of browsing. The current 360 dash is lardy to say the least. So some good news, some benign.

  • daz_john_smith #66 4 years ago

    I hate all this MyFaceBeboBook social networking bullshit, and I don't want it intruding on my gaming space.

  • secombe #67 4 years ago

    Now, the avatars we've got are Xbox avatars, and they have arms, necks and legs, which other people's avatars maybe don't

    Erm, how many console based avatar systems are there at the moment? I count one, and the last time I checked my Mii had arms and legs at the very least...it even changes size in Wii Fit, drives Karts and plays Football (PES 2008), amongst other things.

  • bitesize #68 4 years ago


    ^ hasn't got a neck tho has it? now THAT'S innovation...

  • wingzerosys #69 4 years ago

    I see I've upset a few 360 fanboys, lol.


    Yes I do own a 360, im on my 6th.

    Micro$oft are big headed, "Ooh home's gonna suck" "We'll win console war."

    Copied Eye Toy: Check.

    Copied Mii's: Check.

    Copied Singstar: Check.

    Micro$oft are worse than Sega, man wasn't the Snes versus Megadrive a better war.

    Sony didn't steal Final Fantasy, blame Nintendo for sticking to cartridge's.

  • sneetch #70 4 years ago

    @FireMonkey
    "It's really sad seeing people write Micro$oft (with the $)
    Look I can do it for $ony too!

    Both are big coorporations, and both are here to make as much money as possible. It's what we call 'buisness'. "

    It always struck me as a bit pathetic too; it's deluded to think "Company A are greedy, only in it for the money, Company B are in it because they're our bestest friends" or some shit.

    Unfortunately the best I can do with what remains is Nint€ndo, although that may be appropriate as I heard they are shipping far more consoles to the EU zone than the US to capitalise on the stronger Euro. If so, even Nintendo (whom I love like a brother, a brother!!!) are in it for the cash.

    As for this whole Avatars ripping off Miis hilarity, Nintendos Miis are a "rip-off" of countless previous games including their own (back to the original Ultima and possibly before). Sony also have avatars in Home, they may or may not call them avatars but that's precisely what they are; a computer representation of you in a "game world".

  • wingzerosys #71 4 years ago

    Oh yeah, my eyes are pefectly fine thanks, I wouldn't be much of a gamer if I was blind.

    I own all 3 current gen consoles and M$ seem to be stealing all the games.

    I watched a programme about Micro$oft last week, they've like to win ever since a company developed an operating system, they've copied everything ever since.

    Yes Sony added motion control into the ps3 pad, have they released a rumoured picture of a carbon copied Wii-mote? No.

  • robson_wii #72 4 years ago

    @hoster: How about Ninten-dough! Probably been done before?

  • wingzerosys #73 4 years ago

    Micro$oft only care about money, oh and being no.1.

    They rushed the 360 to get an head start.

    The $ stands for greedy money grabbing, only care about themselves A-holes.

    I hate Micro$oft always have, the're products suck, I play games not consoles, its just the 360 has them all.

    360 fanboys are worse than ps3's.

  • sneetch #74 4 years ago

    @wingzero$y$ (thi$ '$' for 'S' $tuff i$ FUN!!!)
    "Oh yeah, my eyes are pefectly fine thanks, I wouldn't be much of a gamer if I was blind.

    I own all 3 current gen consoles and M$ seem to be stealing all the games.

    I watched a programme about Micro$oft last week, they've like to win ever since a company developed an operating system, they've copied everything ever since.

    Yes Sony added motion control into the ps3 pad, have they released a rumoured picture of a carbon copied Wii-mote? No. "

    They copied live? Really, who had that first?

    They copied XBLA?

    This is a load of rubbish, they copy no more or less than anyone else does these days. Stealing all the games? From whom are they stealing them? They've made good deals to ensure that 3rd parties develop for the 360, something that Nintendo and Sony should be doing more, 3rd parties are doing dismally on Wii at least, and not much better on PS3.

    Sony have a break apart motion sensing controller in the works don't they? Or is that OK because it's not carbon copied?

    Edit:

    @wingzerosys
    "360 fanboys are worse than ps3's."

    Always amazes (and amuses) me how those who don't agree with someone's random, knee-jerk, hate-filled opinions are "fanboys".
    Edited by 1 at 15/07/08 @ 15:39

  • wingzerosys #75 4 years ago

    Firstly, Grow up, so I like to put Micro$oft, big deal, actually it is to M$ fanboys.

    The're shitting money out of the're ass to make sure they get the games.

    Microsoft have been copying ever since it opened.

    Bill Gates admitted he likes to win, be the best etc, even though he's left, the're still doing it.

    Its funny, a ps3 exclusive becomes a multi plat game and all of a sudden 360 fanboys are like "Im glad its coming to 360, more people get to play it," So you wouldn't mind the ps3 stealing some of the 360's exclusives then?

    Not heard anything else about the breakable control, even if its true, I doubt it'll look exactly like the Wii-mote, unlike Microsoft's.
    Edited by 1 at 15/07/08 @ 15:55

  • Gaol #76 4 years ago

    "Micro$oft only care about money, oh and being no.1."

    Well done, you've just highlighted the raison d'etre of every profit making corporation in existance.

  • WinterSnowblind #77 4 years ago

    @wingzerosys

    You keep complaining about fanboys, yet you seem to be the biggest one here.

    When exactly did "360 fanboys" claim to hate games like Final Fantasy or MGS? As I recall, even most Xbots have been quite sensible about these games, even admitting that they want them on their system. It's hardly surprising to see so many of them cheering over Final Fantasy now, but the same is true in reverse anyway. A few months ago, if you asked a PS3 fanboy what they thought of Bioshock, they would have said it's overrated, they don't care, etc, etc.

    Also, I hardly think you can simpy blame Microsoft for "copying ideas" for one, the avatar system doesn't look that similar to either the Mii's or Home. In my opinion, it fits nicely inbetween. It isn't as pointless as the Mii's, but it doesn't serve as a massive distraction like Home is trying to do. They're there to provide a more personal interaction between friends on Live, from what I can tell they serve much more of a function than either of the other two systems.

    And look at Sony lately, the recent update basically took every feature from the Xbox dashboard, including achievements (one thing the Sony enthusiasts ALWAYS claimed to hate, but is now suddenly a great "new" feature". If MS want to copy something off Sony now, it only seems fair, no? The Avatar system on the 360 is no where near as similar to either of the other two competitiors systems, as the trophies is to achievements. And even looking at things like the PSN in general, or the Nintendo virtual console/wii ware, are all ideas that are very clearly taking from Microsoft's Live service.

    If you don't like the avtar's because they're kind of similar to other systems, then fine, but you can NOT deny that both Sony and Nintendo are also guilty of exactly the same thing.

  • WinterSnowblind #78 4 years ago

    "Not heard anything else about the breakable control, even if its true, I doubt it'll look exactly like the Wii-mote, unlike Microsoft's."

    You mean the Darwin controller, which isn't made by Microsoft at all, and is also being released on the PS3?

    But again, that's another good example of your biased. It's fine when $ony copy something, but not Microsoft? Even when they haven't done anything, you're flinging blame at them, and making excuses for $ony.
    Edited by 1 at 15/07/08 @ 16:13

  • wingzerosys #79 4 years ago

    You're the Fanboy, you love defending MS.

    No I haven't heard anything about the darwin controller.

    I care more about MS stealing games than a mii rip off.


    How come the 360 fanboys only want MGS 4 to laugh at sony.

  • wingzerosys #80 4 years ago

    What exactly has Sony copied other than having motion control?

    Im not defending sony one bit, Im talking about Microsoft.

    I admit, I prefer Sony to Microsoft, doesn't make me a fanboy.

    I prefer Nintendo to either of those, they've been around longer.

  • beckyh #81 4 years ago

    Avatars with arms and legs?? woohoo NOT. PSN Home avatars have arms and legs, have Microsoft not watched the videos?

    Stuff it! This is a "My Dad's bigger than your Dad" moment. In a tit for tat war of words could they not come up with anything better than "ooohh ours have arms and legs!" ?

  • WinterSnowblind #82 4 years ago

    "What exactly has Sony copied other than having motion control?"

    I take it you didn't read my posts. Trophies? They're undeniably, a direct rip of the achievement system. And both PSN and the Virtual Console/Wii Ware are clearly based on Xbox Live.

    "I admit, I prefer Sony to Microsoft, doesn't make me a fanboy."

    And that's my line. Defending Microsoft, doesn't make me a fanboy, I'm simply pointing out all the errors in your statements. And by no means, you doing the same doesn't make you one. However, the rest of what you're doing does. You're spewing so much hate towards Microsoft, that you're refusing to look at the facts. Yes, they implement a system similar to Mii's, and that apparantly makes them the worst company ever, yet you're ignoring all the things that both Nintendo and Sony have copied from Microsoft and each other. That's how the industry works, that's how EVERY industry works.

    And in what way are they "stealing games"? Square can make games for whoever they want.

    If anything, that's Sony you should blame again, they were the ones paying to keep them exclusive in the first place. The fact they realised that it's more profitable to release Final Fantasy on both systems, probably didn't have anything to do with Microsoft. It's exactly the same as what happened with GTA. It wasn't Microsoft paying for it, it was Sony, all along. They simply decided to go multiplatform, instead of accepting money from Sony.

    Nintendo aren't innocent of this either, go look up Goldeneye for the XBLA. The only reason we didn't get that, is because Nintendo threatened to not allow Activisison to release anymore Wii/DS games if they released Goldeneye for the 360.
    Edited by 1 at 15/07/08 @ 16:35

  • Luvbeers #83 4 years ago

    I only care about the community if they are behind the cross hairs of my rifle. If my mii, home, nxe avatar doesn't come with an arsenal, then they can all fuck the right off.

  • wingzerosys #84 4 years ago

    It just pisses me off that the 360 gets more exclusives than the ps3 and whatever exclusives the ps3 gets, some end up being released on the 360.

    Yes FFXIII has gone multi plat, SE haven't made UI or SO multi plat, that's what pisses me off.

    The 360 has Halo 3 and Gears, let the ps3 keep MGS 4.


    I own all 3 consoles and every one of them should have exclusives, 3rd party devs should share them between either the 3 or 2 of them, not release more exclusives on one system and change there minds when they have an exclusive on the other.

  • wingzerosys #85 4 years ago

    It'd take me hours to tell you every single 360 exclusive, it would take me about 10-30 minutes to name all the ps3's.

    Now is that fair?

  • AOFanboi #86 4 years ago

    Just like ordinary people have to take a shit sometimes, Microsoft need to spew some FUD about their competition.

    I am sure many people got more interested in Home now that Microsoft have become scared of it.

  • Luvbeers #87 4 years ago

    I don't think Microsoft is scared of Home... they sell more games then anyone they don't need it, but if they can make money off it... why not I guess. Nobody is copying anyone, it is the market following the trends. People seem to want fagdom, so let them have it if they are willing to pay.

  • Rash' #88 4 years ago

    WinterSnowblind, They're all going for the online space to deliver content and there's only so many ways in which you can deliver that content. Live isn't original. It was just first to the market. There's a big difference.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #89 4 years ago

    "It'd take me hours to tell you every single 360 exclusive, it would take me about 10-30 minutes to name all the ps3's.

    Now is that fair?"

    I've got an idea. Sell your PS3 and keep your 360 to play all the exclusives that aren't on one console you own, but on the other you own instead.

    What an utter utter cock.

  • wingzerosys #90 4 years ago

    ^360 fanboy, you're the utter cock.

    Another added to ignore list.

  • SpaceMidget75 Verified Senior Software Developer, Minerva Computer Services #91 4 years ago

    Haha

  • Sevens #92 4 years ago

    "and my advice is that we should (...) hold our breath, because [making] that [many insane statements] could be quite a dangerous thing to do"

    P.S.:

    "Thank god that at least Microsoft do the things that they promise. "

    Yeah, like

    1) not having a higher failure rate than 3-5 % at all
    2) (actually) solving that (non existent) problem


    Honestly all this nonsense and disrespect is just pathetic - and that is a general statement.
    Edited by 1 at 15/07/08 @ 22:34

  • Antros1983 #93 4 years ago

    This is capitalism!

  • Darkjinxter #94 4 years ago

    Achievements, avatars, d/l content, demos are a natural progression from the PC world of yore.
    No-one, MS, Sony or Nintendo can claim these things are theirs. They are merely integrating them into their own version of the past.

    The past, of course is where we all live anyhoo.