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MS: Don't hold your breath over PS Home News

Xbox 360 News by Robert Purchese

15 July, 2008

Microsoft has told us we "we shouldn't hold our breath" for PlayStation Home because it would be a "dangerous thing to do".

GamesIndustry.biz collared Euro suits David Gosen and Chris Lewis for a chat after the E3 media briefing last night, which revealed the Xbox 360 avatars and the social networking dream.

"So we've got a really active community already, and what we need to do is create an identity for those people. Personalisation isn't really new - we know people want to personalise their experience. Now, the avatars we've got are Xbox avatars, and they have arms, necks and legs, which other people's avatars maybe don't," said David Gosen.

"But that's just the start point. They're appearing in the game, and what you'll see us do more and more is make sure that avatars are truly integral to everything we do. It just goes back to true personalisation and creating a social network that really works and is really relevant to all people."

"What Sony does with Home is up to them, and my advice is that we shouldn't hold our breath, because that could be quite a dangerous thing to do," he added.

Last night Microsoft said it had over 12 million members on Xbox Live, and between them they had spent over USD 1 billion on digital content.

The Xbox 360 avatars and the redesigned Dashboard are due out this autumn.

Head over to GamesIndustry.biz for the full interview with Chris Lewis and David Gosen, where they talk about pinching historically PlayStation-exclusive games and appealing to a wider audience.

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Skurmedel
15/07/08 @ 08:38
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If we hold our breaths for too long, we may eventually suffocate?
Eraysor
15/07/08 @ 08:39
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I don't care about either. Owned!
Arcadiian
15/07/08 @ 08:40
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"Microsoft has told us we "we shouldn't hold our breath" for PlayStation Home because it would be a "dangerous thing to do"."

I like that advice.
wingzerosys
15/07/08 @ 08:40
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Micro$oft, big headed greedy b'stard's.
FeralUK
15/07/08 @ 08:48
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Has anyone got pics of the new dashboard?
FireMonkey
15/07/08 @ 08:48
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It's really sad seeing people write Micro$oft (with the $)
Look I can do it for $ony too!

Both are big coorporations, and both are here to make as much money as possible. It's what we call 'buisness'.
Wash
15/07/08 @ 08:49
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wingzerosys, blind fanboy.
Ignatius_Cheese
15/07/08 @ 08:49
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Welcome to Mii 2.0
FireMonkey
15/07/08 @ 08:50
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Execta
15/07/08 @ 08:53
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Why do they even compare those Mii 2.0 characters into a great looking upcoming community, PLAYSTATION HOME? HOME will be a huge online community for all the PS3 owners, those Micro$oft's avatars are just, well, avatars, and they are even childish looking. Like Mii characters. HOME has real looking characters, own homes and rooms, public areas where to play awesome games like chess, billiard, darts etc. You can go to a movie theatre and watch trailers over there in high-defintion. All the furniture and items in the HOME world has their own working physics and so on.

HOME is graphically good looking and physically in great shape, HOME is a community. Xbox 360's Mii 2.0 avatars are just characters and even cartoon-like, eh. I would hate to go around with a that lame character. ;/

Keep your Mii copies, we will hold our breaths for HOME. (And suffocate.)
bad09
15/07/08 @ 08:53
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I wasn't interested in Home in the first place MS and your Home/Mii rip off dashboard/avatars don't interest me either so I'd keep my mouth shut if I was you......
Wash
15/07/08 @ 08:55
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@Execta

Err. read the article much? no once does he compare what they're doing to home, he even says what sony do is there business.

Alot of defensive fanboys on here today aint there.
Darren
15/07/08 @ 08:59
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Hmmm, Microsoft's Avatar concept comes across as a mixture of Nintendo's Miis and some of Sony's Home so there's definitely some liberal borrowing of ideas going on here. Microsoft are clearly hoping to attract casual gamers to the 360 with these Avatars and, to be fair, it does give the whole dashboard a cute and friendly look to it. I like it personally but I do wish that both Microsoft and Sony would stop being so arrogant as to comment on their rival's ideas before they've even seen them up and running. It does come across as rather childish to me, all this "psychological warfare".
anomagnus
15/07/08 @ 08:59
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@ wingzerosys

Micro$oft, big headed greedy b'stard's.

As opposed to what? The Peoples company of Sony? The same Sony that GOUGED Europe on prices, for feature stripped kit?

Sony is a massive multinational as well, with little or no concern for individuals. Its the nature of multi nationals ( i love it!). Dont pretend Sony is somehow a shining beacon of consumer hope.

As for Home, what a bag of wank. It's bad enough i have to listen to tossers online,without having to fucking interact with them on virtual basis.

Three types of people will use homeregularly:-

1) Wankers
2) 12 year olds
3) Pedophiles
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monkie_king
15/07/08 @ 08:59
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This is Microsoft jumping the shark =(
trebell
15/07/08 @ 09:03
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wingzerosys: they are a business. what did you expect? were sony not big headed when theysaid the "nextgen stars when we say so", were they not greedy when grabbing FF from Ninty?

it's justthe way the business is.
DFawkes
15/07/08 @ 09:05
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Wow, companies are being especially bitchy recently, even non-gaming ones. I saw a weedkiller advert that literally stuck their competitor on screen and said "Ours is better than this other stuff!"

I know they aren't saying theirs is better, but saying stuff like that is unnecessary.

What's wrong with just saying positive things about your own machine?
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drumbaby
15/07/08 @ 09:10
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Home is probably worth waiting for, unlike a pay-for unreliable avatar heavy XMB rip off a la Live.
T4RG4
15/07/08 @ 09:12
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Home sounds so shit its almost funny. I want to play games with friends, not chat with them in some dodgy virtual sims like world. Avatars from MS, couldn't care less.
peterfll
15/07/08 @ 09:12
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"What Sony does with Home is up to them"

No shit Sherlock.
TheJuriel
15/07/08 @ 09:12
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I don't want ugly Miis to be an increasingly integral part of everything they do.
Xerx3s
15/07/08 @ 09:13
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wingzerosys: for somebody who claims to be anything but a fanboy...
Xerx3s
15/07/08 @ 09:14
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"Welcome to Mii 2.0"

AKA: Me too!
moggsy
15/07/08 @ 09:15
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@ Execta

MS have said before they are sick of competing against vapourware. Where is Home? Is it actually any good? Will people really use it to play 'awesome' games like chess?

I agree with MS - Sony need to release Home as soon as possible or stop going on about it being some sort of great white hope.
Wash
15/07/08 @ 09:16
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@drumbaby.

"unlike a pay-for unreliable avatar heavy XMB rip off a la Live."

yawn.
Teamallstar
15/07/08 @ 09:19
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I bought the PS3 on release because of Home. I can't believe that $ony have screwed their fans this badly. Whenever I used to speak to my friends with xboxs they used to laugh at me. We, we are 18 months further on and still no home. There should be laws against promising something to consumers and then not delivering it.

I do now have a 360 and am happy to have the P$3 as a DVD player.

Thank god that at least Microsoft do the things that they promise.
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Altrezia
15/07/08 @ 09:21
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Tell you what. I hate the console 'war'. I hate the bitching between companies (tbh, mostly from Microsoft's side) and I hate the fanboys.
I have both consoles, and like both. Both have their merits and their downsides. Why can't we all just get along? I'd rather the companies spent time creating new content and games for each console, rather than stirring up a war, as it'll be better for everyone?

Hmm.
Ignatius_Cheese
15/07/08 @ 09:24
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@ Xerx3s - D'oh! Wasn't quite quick enough with that one...

/doffs cap
rob76
15/07/08 @ 09:29
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interesting to see how much the avatars will cost, seeing that even (most of) gamer pics cost ms points. if they cost any more than a penny, they can shove their avatars...
I wanna play games not create a "second" life. I'll leave that for saddos.
optimusprym8
15/07/08 @ 09:30
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+1 Altrezia - I have all three because I love games and want to experience the best of what's available. However my Sony shelf is a lot slimmer than the 360 one. The Wii one even more so.

But that might change when they release that new dashboard in Autumn. OMFUG!? I want to play games not be advertised to death.
bitesize
15/07/08 @ 09:33
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i won't be holding my breath for either avatar system thanks... anyone with a wii knows it's something you play with for 5 mins when you get it, then never touch again. waste o time.
miiiguel
15/07/08 @ 09:36
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@wingzerosys : "greedy" and shit... are you for real? Economics 101, companies exist to make money and please their consumers along the way - guess what, their doing their shit (pretty well, I might add), shock!. I bet you are no part of this equation as I bet you don't have MS (or M string...) stocks, nor have a 360, so what's your problem ?

There's a word in eglish for ppl who get upset when a neighbour has a nice car... can't recall which is right now...
Freki
15/07/08 @ 09:38
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At least the MS thing may actually be released. Unlike Home. Which we are still waiting for...
Xerx3s
15/07/08 @ 09:38
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I think that it's a structural communications flaw on sony's side. When you look at nintendo or ms, they usually only start talking about things months away from release (a few minor exceptions aside). If they don't they at least have a fixed date on which it will be released. Sony on the other hand seems to announce something new and then delay it for some time (what is it, more than a year now?).

It would be ironic if ms released their version before sony did.
Psiloc
15/07/08 @ 09:47
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Quite like the look of this. Seems like it's as simple as it should be, rather than the overblown what's-the-point-of-this Home.

Crap if you have to pay extra for it though.
JediMasterMalik
15/07/08 @ 09:49
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From what I can tell, Avatars are a complete ripoff of Home, just without the world to inhabit them. And of course the owning your own apartment thing. ;)

They even took the watching movies, and joining games thing as a group.

I'm actually amazed more people aren't calling them out for it when they're so quick to call out Sony when they copy shit.

Actually that shouldn't surprise me at all.
Artemis_Matsas
15/07/08 @ 09:52
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More features is always good to have. My only gripe is that i have to pay in order to play online.
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15/07/08 @ 09:54
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I think most people that held their breath over Home died a few months ago.

/RIP

Oh yes JediMasterMalik ... Home is VERY original. It has never been done before.

We had fucking 3D avatars in the 90s for chatting. It just came back recently because all the emo teens want one.

/Sarcasm
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Xerx3s
15/07/08 @ 09:55
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banfoi: There is a lot of irony in that post but I can't put my finger on one specific thing.

EDIT: I find myself agreeing with dizzy a lot as of late.

/duct tapes dizzy's mouth
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Dizzy
15/07/08 @ 09:56
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"banfoi: There is a lot of irony in that post but I can't put my finger on one specific thing. "

I finally got rid of him... I think he was a bot anyway.
Tyranix
15/07/08 @ 09:58
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The tears of Fanboys over this week could bring about the Apocalypse by flood.
Teamallstar
15/07/08 @ 10:03
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@Jedimastermalik

Doesn't someone need to do something first in order for someone else to copy them??

Last time I checked Home was just a pipe dream.

We will be inhabiting mars before Home is released.
IronGiant
15/07/08 @ 10:22
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"Now, the avatars we've got are Xbox avatars, and they have arms, necks and legs, which other people's avatars maybe don't,"

Wow, just wow.. they have arms and legs and everyfink.

The fact that he even mentions Home proves they're concerned about it. Sony should take as long as they need to make Home as polished and smooth as possible.
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15/07/08 @ 10:24
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Sometime, someone persuaded suit wearing tossers that having and encouraging rabid bed-wetting fanboys was a "goog thing".

No doubt a marketing bloke stood up with a powerpoint presentation and referred to these characters as "opinion shaper" or "influential netizens".

In a desire to nurture this brand loyalty, they set about trying to pour petrol on the flames of fanboy fanaticism by talking shite. And it works. They think that by encouraging this mindset - their little opinion bitches will go out and spread the good news.

Unfortunately they are only preaching to the converted - and for every new customer recruited two are bemused and slightly scared by the hatred someone has for another persons choice of toy. And they wonder why nintendo with their painfully cuddly image outsell them ?

In the meantime - cunts in suits keep spewing liquid shit, places like eurogamer spread it for page hits and mouth breathing fan boys greedily swallow it up.

Ahhhhh. And breath.
moggsy
15/07/08 @ 10:34
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@ knocker

In the meantime - cunts in suits keep spewing liquid shit, places like eurogamer spread it for page hits and mouth breathing fan boys greedily swallow it up.

You know another, more optimistic, view on this could be that such talk keeps each competitor on their toes. If this quip by MS gets Sony off their arses that slight bit quicker and so PS3 owners get Home a month or two sooner then that's a good thing no?

Competition is very healthy for the industry as a whole - and this sort of quip is all part of it, as are the fanboys who are quick to pick up on the slightest flaw.
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15/07/08 @ 10:52
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The Xbox avatars are so ugly; hopefully Home's people won't be such an eyesore.
wewillselfdestruct
15/07/08 @ 10:57
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Why can't we all just... get along?
Yaster
15/07/08 @ 11:21
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Looks like Microsoft have stolen the title of both rip off merchants AND arrogant f***ers
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15/07/08 @ 11:25
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I bought a PS3 along with my powerhouse PC and Wii for the blu-ray playback and LBP. Anything else is honestly just gravy.
CannonAnBall
15/07/08 @ 11:33
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People are being pissy and whiney about Home but lets look at these avatars - don't be shocked when MS create their own little world just like Home. I mean these avatars have legs and arms and stuff - MS will want to take advantage of these features!

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