MotorStorm: Pacific Rift Comments by Tom Bramwell

I found the framerate in the demo was terrible, has this been fixed in the full game then?

Terrible? I didn't see it slow down once, single OR multiplayer. And I'm pretty sensitive to dodgy framerates.

Enjoyed the demo muchly, will buy cheap in sales. bye.

"I found the framerate in the demo was terrible, has this been fixed in the full game then? "

The PSN demo is at least 1½ months old (=beta) and the final game is much better looking (According to 1UP).

I didn't notice any slow daown or tearing... but it lacked polish and AA.

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I'll check that out then. I'm going to miss on this until some £age comes off the price. My current pre-order list is way too massive and any excuse to chop it down, credit crunch stylee is welcome at the moment!

Fable 2 will get a 10 because its fantastic ( better than LBP then ) .

oh come on, at least do it with some style, thats blatant, lack of imagination, rather dry in delivery, slight reek of desperation perhaps to people ignoring you on the first page.
I've seen better. Try dropping a comment about MGS4 in there with it.

Does your vehicle still explode at random? I couldnt get enough of that in the first game..

I think a 7 was to be expected really.

The first was a graphical showcase but lacked depth and options and I cant help feeling the same with the sequel even if they have addressed issues that should have been fixed in the first.

"Try dropping a comment about MGS4 in there with it."

No need but cant wait to post "better than Resistance 2 then" on the comments for Gears 2 10/10 review.

Agree with this review. Even the demo track had me being taken out through no fault of my own far too often to be enjoyable. You are pretty much forced to use a car of some kind simply because it can at least take a single hit without blowing up.

They then compund this nonsense by using rubber banding to get all the cars to catch you up no matter how fast you are going. Burnout realised this wasn't fun and at least tweaked theirs so that you don't see a car crash and then somehow overtake you five seconds later.

Epic fail.

"Agree with this review"

Have you played it?

The final game... not the beta/demo...

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Next year... is *da* year!

My god... the xbots got out early this week...

Going to buy it. After EG's 9 for Saints 'Fucking shit' Row 2, I am not so fussed by their scores.
The Demo of this rocks, worth a DL for anyone who is 50/50 about the full title.

Why so serious?... is just another meh game. Next year....

Question: isn't the review a bit early?... thought the game was due for release mid november?

I'm not complaining, just wondering...

sequels are too quick to come around these days, theres such an abundance of entertainment that we've incredibly dismissive and hard to please. I remember being given a game and watch for xmas back in the 80's, that thing had me hooked, was still playing it a year later, trying to better my score!

"Why so serious?... is just another meh game. Next year.... "

Why such a prick?

You obviously CONTINUE to be a troll and only have hate towards the PS3. Just stay out of PS3 related threads instead of trolling.

Really, miiiguel. Just leave it be. Just don't troll. No big deal.

You don't need to make it look like average videogames on a console you don't own give you any kind of satisfaction. That would be ridiculous indeed.

The worst thing about the first motorstorm was being forced into dull dull dull larger vehicles, i only ever enjoyed nipping through on a bike, 3 seconds from being knocked off for the race. I gave up after a series of big-rig events. Sounds like they haven't fixed that flaw. I want my racing to be fun all the way through, not suddenly get dull...
Edit: I notice also that in the demo, they give you a choice of 2 light vehicles and the track is the one I've seen mentioned as being a standout in most reviews (and it is a great track, and fun on the motorbike I picked). Sounds like the demo is giving a somewhat better impression of the game - Fair play to them. But if you liked the demo, its no guarantee you wont get bogged down in the main game, as you tended to in the first game.

Beano, dude, chill I wish you no harm, nor I will call you names. Can“t you take a (maybe bad) joke? I mean, that PS3 got you old n and cranky, you have to admit that ;)

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@Beano

Question: isn't the review a bit early?... thought the game was due for release mid november?

I'm not complaining, just wondering...

Actually you tend to complain about anyone who doesn't say a PS3 game is brilliant or dismisses a game based on the demo (you know the thing games companies release to show you how the end product plays). I notice that anytime you don't like a demo, you say it's from beta code and surely can't be used to form an opinion of a game. Reality cheque here! Demos are released precisely to allow people to form an opinion of a product and boost sales. They most certainly are not cut from buggy beta code either.

I thought the demo was too similar to the original. Sure, there was foliage, but it didn't feel like a lush environment that I was expecting. Perhaps this was a poor choice of track for the demo, but it put me further off a game that I wasn't especially excited about in the first place.

"The worst thing about the first motorstorm was being forced into dull dull dull larger vehicles"

I loved the big rigs in MS1, in fact I thought the whole range of vehicles was nicely balanced IF you knew which routes to take for the appropriate vehicle.

Strangely some of the 'character' of the vehicles is missing from MS2 (based on time spent with the beta), especially the mudplugger which was frankly not fun at all to drive.

I'll have to spend some time with the retail version but so far MS2 just doesnt have the excitement of MS1. Just need to convince DrDamn to buy it so I can have a play! ;)


"I found the framerate in the demo was terrible"

I noticed no slowdown or tearing..

Aye, I liked driving Big Rigs in MS1 too.

Cockpit view, and sixaxis controls worked perfectly for Big Rigs. It was great fun, unlike most vehicle classes I tried the tilt controls on.

anyaway, just for the record, I don“t have any opinion on the game... never played, and probably never will. Liked the review though. I'm sorry if I 'offended' anyone with a bad joke.
Later.

"Actually you tend to complain about anyone who doesn't say a PS3 game is brilliant or dismisses a game based on the demo (you know the thing games companies release to show you how the end product plays). I notice that anytime you don't like a demo, you say it's from beta code and surely can't be used to form an opinion of a game. Reality cheque here! Demos are released precisely to allow people to form an opinion of a product and boost sales. They most certainly are not cut from buggy beta code either. "

You are mixing things up a bit and drawing wrong conclusions.

1) I mentioned that the PSN demo (which is bad IMO) is 1½ months old beta/demo - this is a FACT and not my speculation or "hope".
100% same demo as on Qore (over a month ago) which was allready a few weeks old and 1UP talked about it in their podcast and about how much better later builds were. Of course they are also making stuff up?
Reason for mentioning this is that people should not judge the game on the demo and panic reg. graphics. See IGN video review which is much nice looking. Of course no need to look at that either...
Sony should not have released a old and dull demo of the game - they are not selling the game well.

2) I ask about the early post of the review - was hoping that the game might have been pushed forward a bit since reviews
are allready popping up more than a month before release.

3) I'm not complaing about the MS:PR score - it actually fits fine with Edge and IGN scrores (for once). 7/10 does just no mean a "fail" or "meh" game to me like many trolls want it to be. Game of the year?... no, but it sound like a solid racer for fans of the first one. Is every game with a non 10 score considered a failure?

Here's IGN's video review mentioned above:

http://ps3.ign.com/dor/objects/965107/mo...

Shows of some of the different environments and gameplay elements which is not in the dull demo :)

@miiiguel - you'd think you insulted someones religion or something. :P

Anyhow, stop trolling. Bad man. You know you are.

(From the review) "when the difficulty does ascend as you graduate to ranks 5 and 6 you're allowed almost no mistakes in the quest for a top-three position. As a result you start to feel worse about being taken out when you can hardly anticipate it"

This is precisely why I didn't like MotorStorm, and why I deleted the Pacific Rift demo after 5 minutes when it was clear it was just more of the same. Having to driving perfect laps in such unpredictables races isn't fun at all imo. And compound that with the elastic band AI; even if you drive a series of great laps, if you then crash you'll see half the field whizz by.

I'm usually a sucker for driving games, but this series seems to intentionally wallow in everything I dislike about arcade racers. :(

@Farticus
You'll have to wait for it to become available on budget - too much other stuff to play this side of Christmas

RE: Frame rate on the demo
They included a new "juddery" effect when you activated boost for this version - I thought it was frame rate issues at first but it was an effect. Might explain your experience.

While I liked MS1, except for the cheating bastard AI towards the end of the game.

The demo seems that the game has taken some major steps backwards.

Poor graphics in places. The ground (at the start of the race featured in the demo) is a single flat polygon with texture applied. No bump mapping at all.

The physics and handling seem "off". Hard to explain what's wrong, but it just doesn't work for me.
And the camera seemed to sit slightly off horizontal, which was tiring to watch.

MS1 was the first game I played on my launch day PAL PS3 and was miles ahead of anything I'd played on PS2 in terms of Gfx,SFx etc, but MS2 just doesn't feel special at all. In fact, I only played it 3 times before getting annoyed and switching it off.

I wish idiots would stop defending the demo. If you release a "beta" build as the demo then I think it's fair people will assume the final product is similar to the one you released as a DEMOnstration. This is the whole point of demos. It may be unfair, but life is.

Played it quite a bit now (not the demo, that was next to pointless) and it is better than Pure. Sold Pure as it became monotonous after a few hours. Over rated.

This is underrated here, but PS3 exclusive so makes sense.

I actually liked the red and brown look of the original Motorstorm (surely based on Monument Valley?), as I hadn't really seen it in a racing game before. The new game's graphics (and yes, I've seen the IGN video review) are just dull, uninspiring and far less grounded in any kind of reality than the previous game. Although I have no intention of buying Pure either, I have to say the graphics in Pure were a lot more impressive.

"This is underrated here, but PS3 exclusive so makes sense"

For all of you PS3 fans who think Eurogamer has some sort of 360 bias. Well if they do there must be a reason right? Maybe the 360 actually is a better console with better games. Live with it.

Pure is great, and if you only played it a few hours then it wasn't for you. SSX nuts will love it.

@neil_likes_bums : But it IS a old version - it's nothing to do with defending (I accept EG's score) - it's just a simple fact that's it 1½ months old. Also it's not only a old build, It's also a DULL level they choose for the demo.

BAD and STUPID marketing on Sony's part. I can only recommend people to check out IGN video review for real footage.

@squarejawhero: I agree. Pure is great. Fun and accessible and looks fantastic. Very SSX'ish :)

Pure lasted a week before it got traded in. It got boring too quickly. However i couldn't give a shit what eurogamer give as a score anyways and this game is still on a very long list of must buys till xmas.

To all the clinically depressed xbot trolls in the wrong comments page, can you gargle some mouthwash or something cus' there really is a strong smell of cock round here.

I do hope PS3 owners rise above this kind of B.S and don't pathetically hang round Xbox review comment pages fanning the flames that personally I wouldn't piss on. We're better than that. You only have to listen to the bile that's spewed from their ignorant vapid mouths on xbox live in Halo 3 or COD4 to understand they're a disgrace to the human race.

@samk - Yep, the rubberbanding is one of the things I dislike intensely about MotorStorm... it's cheap and there's really no need to include it in games these days or make it so blatantly obvious as it is in this game. I still ended up enjoying the first game but it did feel unjustly unfair at times and ended up being very frustrating, not something I like to experience in games I must confess. Pure shows how a game can gradually get more difficult without resorting to cheating A.I. as you see the other racers doing tricks and (presumably) racing on more powerful quads like you are, hence why later races feel more competitive and are harder to win. At no point did I feel the game was unfair, something that the MotorStorm PR demo often felt as even when you have a perfect lap and boost most of the way round, the A.I. drivers are never more than half a second behind ready to overtake you as soon as you make the slightest mistake. Also crashes take far, far too long before you can press X meaning that going from 3rd to 15th is a depressingly regular occurrence. Even online MotorStorm still has this catchup feature so even that doesn't get round the issue.

Actually re-reading that paragraph is making me think twice about whether I do actually want this game or not. I may wait and pick it up for £20 sometime next year. I absolutely loved Pure and although MotorStorm PR will be more varied, I cannot see it being more fun (the demo certainly wasn't). I think I may cancel my pre-order after all... isn't the game out the same day as LittleBigPlanet now?

Oh well Curry's £10 quiid sale this time next year.. Although I think the revies on this site are getting a bit harsh. dead Space too got 7 Yet Gamespot and IGN were 9+

The original MotorStorm was a 'good, but...' and I hated the rubberband AI as others have said. Disappointing that it's still in there, but I'll probably still pick this up. When it's cheap.

"Although I think the revies on this site are getting a bit harsh. dead Space too got 7 Yet Gamespot and IGN were 9+ "

Yeah 7/10 seems very low for Dead Space. That they also gave Alone in the dark 7 makes me take Eurogamers reviews with a huge pinch of salt.

@hedbog: thank god you came in this thread to save the day and tell us what to think. Since Edge gave the game a 7/10, I guess "print journalism" is shit, too, with the exception of playstation official magazine, of course.

PS3 fans should be very happy that they finally got another mediocre racing game, when GT5 comes out in 2011 they'll have a good one as well. 300 quid well spent