Most Wii games "look like crap"

By Robert Purchese Published 18 April, 2008

But ours won't, says High Voltage.

Developer High Voltage has attacked the mentality of developers making games for Wii, claiming most end products "don't even look as good as the latter day PS2 titles".

The comments came after High Voltage whipped the wrappers off its Wii project The Conduit - a first-person shooter boasting to be among the most technically advanced games on the console.

"We think it's a real shame that publishers and developers aren't taking advantage of the technical possibilities of the Wii platform. Most Wii games don't even look as good as the latter day PS2 titles and that's a real slap in the face to consumers," Kerry Ganofsky, boss of High Voltage, told IGN.

"We believe that third-party developers need to step up to the plate and deliver. The Wii platform is capable of a lot more than what consumers have seen so far. We're hoping to raise a new bar."

The Conduit is based around government conspiracies and is set in the aftermath of an alien attack on Washington. You, as Agent Ford, get drafted in to find out the truth, with plenty of brain-splatting to be done on the way.

High Voltage believes this kind of mature content is exactly what the Wii needs.

"There is this pervasive and cyclical argument that Wii consumers don't want mature titles, when there aren't those types of products available to them. And even more frustrating is the claim that Wii consumers only care about great gameplay," added Eric Nofsinger, creative boss on the game.

"Of course they care about gameplay, but we believe if given the choice, they would want great graphics as well. It's just a cop out. With Conduit, we are trying to make a Wii game that looks like a 360 title."

The Conduit will feature motion-sensing controls. They will be widely customisable in a similar fashion to Medal of Honor: Heroes 2 which, alongside Metroid Prime 3, happens to be a large source of inspiration for the game.

However, High Voltage is yet to attract a publisher for The Conduit, and no date has been set for release.

High Voltage was the developer behind the PSP version of 50 Cent: Bulletproof, and is enjoying chart success at the moment with Ben 10: Protector of Earth.

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  • systems #1 4 years ago

    True, I always felt that Gamecube games looked as good or better but the Wii is allegedly more powerful. But then again, the Wii is aimed at non-gamers so what would they know?

  • tentonipete #2 4 years ago

    zzzzzzzz

  • DB2k #3 4 years ago

    I don't understand how so many wii games look cak compared to how I felt about GC games.. is it just a perception GC sorta same as xbox and better than ps2, and wii is obviously no where near 360/ps3?

    not sure.. but either way I think the gfx on the Wii should be better than they are :(

  • DB2k #4 4 years ago

    does EG have the video of their tech demo? I watched it earlier today on kotaku and it looked pretty decent

  • Triggerhappytel #5 4 years ago

    Unknown developer comes out bashing all Wii games saying how his will be so different... if we hadn't heard this sort of stuff before then it might be half way interesting. Good luck to 'em, but do they have to be so irritatingly bullish about it?!

    "With Conduit, we are trying to make a Wii game that looks like a 360 title."

    I can tell you now, bud, you're gonna fail.

  • Zomoniac #6 4 years ago

    I think he's missing the whole point of the Wii. If you're going to make a good, attractive game for the Wii then you're wasting your time cos nobody's going to buy it. Ugly licensed and party games, cheap to make and big, big profits.

  • strange_powers #7 4 years ago

    There such a variety in quality of Wii graphics... First party stuff like Mario Galaxy and Metroid Prime 3 look especially amazing for a non-HD consloe, Mario Kart, Super Smash Bros and Wii Sports go for simple, elegant and effective designs. But the shovelware designed to lure unsuspecting rubes out of their £19.99s ("OOH NINJABREAD MAN! SOUNDS LIKE GINGERBREAD, SEE? DO WANT!";) looks uniformly awful.

    But wasn't it the same on the PS2, PS1, Mega Drive, Amiga, C64?

  • aldo_14 #8 4 years ago

    I think he's missing the whole point of the Wii. If you're going to make a good, attractive game for the Wii then you're wasting your time cos nobody's going to buy it. Ugly licensed and party games, cheap to make and big, big profits.

    Yes, because Nintendos big franchises have struggled horribly and not had people buying them atall!






    Oh, wait.......

  • AtomicBanana #9 4 years ago

    Problem is, the shots of this game 'look like crap' too.

  • Skooch #10 4 years ago

    I don't know about "most" Wii games but I did watch an advert the other day for a Wii title (can't recall which one but must have been pretty big to be on TV) and I really thought at first it was an advert for some retro XBLA title or something. It looked like the games industry had taken a step back 10 years and I would agree that that particular title "looked like crap".

  • Eraser #11 4 years ago

    Shouldn't the Wii be capable of running Doom 3 quality graphics, considering it supposedly more powerful than the original XBox, which had Doom 3 on it in fact.

  • Widge #12 4 years ago

    Still... I'm sure none of us are naive enough to fall into the "graphics are everything" trap, are we?

  • Bealsy #13 4 years ago

    in other breaking news, the wheel has been invented...

  • Darren #14 4 years ago

    "With Conduit, we are trying to make a Wii game that looks like a 360 title."

    W... wh... what?!? They've managed to get Wii games to run in hi-def 720p then? ;)

    Seriously though, it's great news that Wii developers acknowledge that most of its games look substandard and are attempting to get something better than PS2/GC quality out of it. Good luck to them I say.

  • MrChuckles #15 4 years ago

    'Most Wii games "look like crap", But ours won't, says High Voltage.'

    Half of that statement is true.

  • darc #16 4 years ago

    Everything HV is saying is dead true and it's about f'ing time. Also, good news that they've taken note of MOH:H2's control scheme, which was brilliant IMO.

  • darc #17 4 years ago

    "I think he's missing the whole point of the Wii. If you're going to make a good, attractive game for the Wii then you're wasting your time cos nobody's going to buy it. Ugly licensed and party games, cheap to make and big, big profits."

    You honestly believe that people will NOT buy games BECAUSE they look good. That's really, really strange thinking.

  • viper_h #18 4 years ago

    I'm playing Pro Evo 2008 on the Wii and that looks absolutely fucking terrible.

    Good game though.

  • Pac-man-ate-my-wife #19 4 years ago

    Art Style > Teh Graphix!! every time for me

    Look at Okami for instance, it's still gorgeous to look at.

  • macmurphy #20 4 years ago

    Two things. Play the original gamecube rogue leader through your Wii. The graphics are stunning, why the hell aren't more games like that? Off the top of my head that game is 6 years old. Play Burnout 3 on an XBox. The graphics are likewise awesome. I always understood the Wii to be as powerful as an Xbox, but these are two games that show how bad some of the graphics have been, even compared to first gen gamecube titles. It would be nice to see a game that really pushes the boat out. The first party efforts that are great are the exception, not the norm.

    I have a Wii and have no specific problem with the graphics; I think this is the first generation that's proved that graphical leaps will no longer drive the industry. But some of the stuff is pretty laughable, I'd like to see titles that can really show the Wii off.

  • Triggerhappytel #21 4 years ago

    Oh, for God's sake everyone, I don't think Zomoniac was entirely serious...

  • Quint2020 #22 4 years ago

    "Art Style > Teh Graphix!! every time for me

    Look at Okami for instance, it's still gorgeous to look at."

    I agree, Otogi on the original Xbox for example still looks beautiful.

  • The_Pope #23 4 years ago

    Maybe because the Wii isn't really a "next gen" console... duh

  • hulahoops #24 4 years ago

    Jesus. Looks like a so so DS game never mind a PS2 game.

  • Vin #25 4 years ago

    Newsflash: consumers don't give a toss - look at the recent npd figures.

  • daz_john_smith #26 4 years ago

    Their tech demo, although nice, doesnt really look as impressive as Metroid Prime or some of the nicer bits of Mario Galaxy. It's also all well and good having nice graphics but innovative use of the WiiMote will be key too.

    I'd also read that the Wii is supposed to be technically on a par with the original XBox, but the lack of HDD for quick texture and content streaming could be holding it back from replicating games like Doom 3 and Half Life 2.

    I agree that alot of Wii games look pretty damn awful, but I think with the right art style and quality gameplay it shouldn't really matter.

  • lemonfist #27 4 years ago

    He doesn't sound too crapproof.

  • Squaregod #28 4 years ago

    sorry but theres no game for Wii that was any good yet
    all childish content, if you want it serious then PS3 for you

    Squaregod, Okinawa

  • Godlikegenius #29 4 years ago

    Graphics have always been an afterthought to me.

    Assassin's Creed looks stunning, but isn't half as enjoyable as Galaxy or Metroid are.

    Good graphics make a good game even better, but they don't make a bad game good.

    And bad graphics don't make a good game bad in my opinion.

  • JetSetWilly #30 4 years ago

    Had to laugh when my RSS feed popped up with:

    News: Most Wii games "look like crap" (Wii)

    That ain't news!

    Comedy glod.

  • CallousB #31 4 years ago

    Most devs are putting their C teams on Wii. Few Wii games look as good as GC games last gen...which is crazy...you'd think they could at least re-use their decent old engines and boost the framerate/effects.

    The fact that smaller independent devs are managing to make 40mb Wiiware games that look better than 90% of disc based retail games just shows the lack of effort that big publishers are making.
    Edited by 1 at 18/04/08 @ 15:22

  • kangarootoo #32 4 years ago

    "Problem is, the shots of this game 'look like crap' too."

    I thought that too when I sawe some of the screens, but the video does look a whole lot better and tbh it does look better than almost everything else on the platform.

    I would say though that a tech demo has at its heart the need to look as pretty as possible. The time and cost, not to mention the impracticability, of making a whole game look that way is something else though. I wonder how well their tech demo would run with a few animated character rigs jogging about the place?


    "Shit developers will always make shit games for the most successful console."

    Shit looking games are cheaper to make. That doesn't mean the games themselves are shit and it certainly doesn't mean the devs that make them are necessarily shit either.

    Its simply a matter of time and money. You spend less, you get less, regardless of how talented (or not) your team is.

  • Pac-man-ate-my-wife #33 4 years ago

    "The fact that smaller independent devs are managing to make 40mb Wiiware games that look better than 90% of disc based retail games just shows the lack of effort that big publishers are making."

    Hopefully this fact alone will mean they'll have to raise their game. If you can get WiiWare titles downloaded directly for less money yet which look nicer and play better means good times ahead!

  • SlackMaster #34 4 years ago

    That's because on the Wii apart from in-house developed games and the odd 3rd party title most games on the console are shovelware... If people keep buying it these games will keep getting made.

  • DrDamn #35 4 years ago

    See I was with him right up to the point when I saw some screen shots.

  • Tetragammatron #36 4 years ago

    "News: Most Wii games look like crap"

    I wouldn't call it news per se.

  • BadBoyBonner #37 4 years ago

    I feel sure that Factor 5 will display what an accomplished 3rd Party developer can come up with on the Wii.

    EDIT - at least graphically.
    Edited by 1 at 18/04/08 @ 15:53

  • asphaltcowboy #38 4 years ago

    You lot might mock, but their tech demo is actually pretty impressive...

  • knocker #39 4 years ago

    @Pac-Man ate my wife

    Art Style > Teh Graphix!! every time for me

    Hit the nail on the head there

    As well as Okami I would cite Rez HD, Mario Galaxy and N! recently. None of them jaw dropping - but all perfectly suited to the gameplay.

  • sadakos_fury #40 4 years ago

    agreed.
    my wii is hooked up to the same hdtv as my 360. even with component cables it still feels like you're peering into mudtown through a grimy window. doesn't mean i play resi 4 any less though.

    do you think this is the limit for wii graphics or will we see a ps2-style latter day renaissance?

  • drumbaby #41 4 years ago

    Just looks a bit poo instead.

  • jamie_fear #42 4 years ago

    "With Conduit, we are trying to make a Wii game that looks like a 360 title."

    That's the most stupid thing I've heard all day and for obvious reasons too. Standard Definition does not equal High Definition.

  • elmerfudd #43 4 years ago

    The art direction on this is frankly, horrible.. on the shot with the 'library' there are ten instanced staircases and six textures on the background all tiled massively..

    YUK

  • UncleLou #44 4 years ago

    "With Conduit, we are trying to make a Wii game that looks like a 360 title."

    That's the most stupid thing I've heard all day and for obvious reasons too. Standard Definition does not equal High Definition.

    Your comment just about trumps it. It's pretty obvious that he's not talking about a technical impossibility like the 360's resolution.

  • Razorus #45 4 years ago

    Sweet. This is what I'm waiting for. Just push the Wii's graphics, and MAYBE you could make them look at least as good as early 360 games, such as Perfect Dark Zero or DOA4 (which weren't massive leap forwards in graphics, let's be honest).

    Also, here's the IGN link to some screenshots and the tech demo. IMO, the screenshots look a bit mreh, could use some resolution and texture, but the tech demo is quite impressive.
    http://uk .wii.ign.com/articles/867/86749...
    Edited by 1 at 18/04/08 @ 18:47

  • smelly #46 4 years ago

    It was Ooooh so promising until i read:

    High Voltage was the developer behind the PSP version of 50 Cent: Bulletproof


    "I don't understand how so many wii games look cak compared to how I felt about GC games"

    It's because no-one seems to be willing to put the money towards making them - thinking/hoping it'll be a passing fad.


    "Just push the Wii's graphics, and I guarantee you could make them look at least as good as early 360 games"

    Why wait?

    Mario galaxy/metroid 3 already do just that.

  • Slipstream #47 4 years ago

    Haha, a bold statement, but a true one nonetheless!
    This, of course, doesn't apply to all developers, but I'm sure alot of us have come to realise the publishers/developers taking advantge of the Wii's mainstream appeal, Ubi, EA, Popcorn Arcade...
    By making games that seem/sound appealing, they know there are people out there who will make the purchase despite graphics.
    Yeah of course graphics don't make a game blah blah, but I do enjoy visually appealing games, especially if the gameplay is just as novel.

    The Wii is in need of something that can make it appeal to the more ("Nah the Wii is shit mate, the graphics are awful";) type of players, because people like this do exisit I'm afraid. =P

  • anomagnus #48 4 years ago

    i wonder if i should say anything...

    to be fair to the system, its not a graphics powerhouse so it shouldnt be judged on that

  • TRUTH #49 4 years ago

    The Wii has only 2 games since release that hold an interest to me - Metroid and Zelda. I think Wii is just revamping every game with a new control system; which just using more arm movements rather then thumb movements. Look at the games!...A majority are just fun for a couple of hrs at most, hardly ever returned to and last less then half a day, also a huge majority are simple mini game collections. Mario Kart for a single player is simply the same all seen it before on GC/N64/Snes, as with even Zelda playing the same with the odd new feature here and there.

    360 - Mass Effect, Vina Patna, Gears Of War, Oblivion, Virtua Tennis 3, Virtua Fighter 5, Rock Guitar, Half life 2 / Portal, Crackdown, Burnout Paradise, Forza 2, Pgr4, Flatout, Ghost Recon, Skate, NBA:Homecourt, Final Fight Boxing, Bioshock, Kameo, Command & Conquer, Lost Planet, Dead Rising..etc,...Even the PS3 has a larger variety of games then Wii.

    The point is the Wii has got plenty of dopey quick fun for a few minutes games, but lacking variety and solid games that both the PS3 & 360 owner enjoy. Mario Galaxy - was a fun game, but way to simple. Zelda has been following the same formula and is getting less interesting; with Ico, Fable, Okami (Spoilt in the Wii) taking adventures further then any Zelda game. Mario Kart - really needs to do something new, Metroid still remains interesting.

    With upcoming games like GTA and many more of variety, online, casual and serious gamers being catered for on 360/PS3...The Wii will really need to sort it's games to compete with: GTA, Deus Ex, The Outsider, Fable 2, Little Big Planet, and many other titles to hit the 360/PS3. Wii simply can't putting out mini games or revamps of Mario Karts, Zelda, Pokemons.

    Also all those extra peripherals needed to play games just won't come in use much, just a shame your forced to buy them to play a game that only last a few hrs if that.
    Edited by 1 at 18/04/08 @ 23:14

  • mkreku #50 4 years ago

    The Wii has crap graphics (generally) because all you need to do is take a 15 year old game, put Mario in the title and release it on the Wii and it'll get high review scores and lots of sales. It's almost like a cult..

  • Kryon #51 4 years ago

    "Just push the Wii's graphics, and MAYBE you could make them look at least as good as early 360 games, such as Perfect Dark Zero or DOA4"

    LOL!

    <a href=http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles/a/5/9/0 /4/6/5.jpg>Perfect Dark</a> VS <a href=http://wiimedia.ign.c om/wii/image/article/867/867484/the-conduit-2008041703271681 7_640w.jpg>The Conduit</a>

    "Mario galaxy/metroid 3 already do just that."

    <a href=http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/articles/a/ 5/9/0/3/5/Image3.jpg>DoA4</a> VS <a href=http://images.eurogamer.net/assets/ articles//a/6/4/4/7/7/34550_boss15.jpg.jpg>SMG</a& gt;

    Sorry guys but please stop it, the Wii is a last gen system. It will NEVER be able to come close to the visuals that the 'proper' consoles are capable of.

  • TRUTH #52 4 years ago

    Wii is simply a quick fix - That's it!...Graphics, games, online, sound, depth, variety in games are crap on Wii compared to 360/PS3. And why do you have to buy a new peripheral each time to play a game, and probably never be used again.

  • UncleLou #53 4 years ago

    Sorry guys but please stop it, the Wii is a last gen system. It will NEVER be able to come close to the visuals that the 'proper' consoles are capable of.

    Differnce between Wii and 360 is about the same as the one between the 360 and a game like Crysis. Bashing the Wii and then playing an Xbox seems a bit halfhearted to me.

  • Kryon #54 4 years ago

    @azmol01

    "Lol at all the xbot wankers like TRUTH et al out in full force. Nowhere to be seen in the Wii US March sales success thread"

    Because "The Wii sells well" is no longer news, is it. We all know that people buy it, woopy doo, and we all know that the volume in which something sells doesn't necessarily indicate the products quality. People buy a lot of Ford fiesta's, doesn't make it the best car in the universe though, does it...

    "as soon as they see a story that's even remotely damning about the Wii"

    GLOL, you call a headline like "Most Wii games look CRAP" remotely damning? There's nothing remote about it and the sad fact is that it's pretty much spot on...

    Listen kid, I know it's Saturday and you don't have to go to school so you're feeling a bit hyperactive but coming in here calling people 'xbot wankers' just because they don't get into Cooking Mama and PuppyLove (like you do) just makes you look a bit sad. It may be the only console you're mummy is willing to buy you but you have to understand that many of us here have all the consoles and still find it laughable when a dev comes forward with stupefying claims like "yeah our next Wii game's gonna be like teh 360 graffikz innit blud" when it looks just as crap as the rest of the dross on the system.

  • Kryon #55 4 years ago

    @UncleLou

    Yep,, Crysis is great but unfortunately a PC that can play Crysis on its highest settings costs a little bit more than £160. The 360 does not cost more than a Wii. So your comparison is slightly out of context.

  • UncleLou #56 4 years ago

    Hehe, of course.

  • Pac-man-ate-my-wife #57 4 years ago

    I posted this in other threads where folks were madly trying to decry the Wii as rubbish and it applies here to I think. There are plenty crappy looking games on all systems and of course the Wii doesn't push polygons like the PS3 or Xbox but titles like PES 2008 show how a compelling and original take on an old genre can breath new life into even if the graphics aren't cutting edge.

    At the end of the day I'm a gamer. I play games across all systems because I like games. If you are ignoring the great titles on the Wii you are cutting off your nose to spite your face.

    The number of crap games on a system doesn't matter in the slightest because, as discerning gamers, you just don't buy them. You buy the good games to play on the console and the Wii has more than enough exclusive, engaging, fun and interesting games to justify it's existence.

    Just recently we've had such different and brilliant titles as No More Heroes, Zack & Wiki and PES 2008 which, by happy conicidence, are original games from 3rd parties. Then you've got the core Nintendo titles such as Super Smash Bros. and Super Mario Galaxy that are recieving rave reviews and appeal to those who've grown up with them. Lastly you've got the massive break-out casual title that is Wii Fit.

    As a gamer I see the Wii as one of the most exciting platforms right now not in some hypothetical future that the PS3 exists in (which isn't to say that the PS3 doesn't have a diverse and appealing slate - it truly does - however that is exactly what is offered by the Wii at the this moment in time).
    Edited by 1 at 19/04/08 @ 11:17

  • Salvia #58 4 years ago

    Perhaps he means a 360 game with really shit graphics that make it look like a Wii title...

    "If you are ignoring the great titles on the Wii you are cutting off your nose to spite your face. "

    Unless of course you think that the vast majority of Wii titles are the usual rehashes of Nintendo stables that haven't advanced in 10 years and the rest are diluted and weak titles designed to appeal to non-game players...
    I've got a Wii, only turn it on when people are around and that's only to play Wii Sports/Play. There is nothing that makes me want to play it outside of that environment, not Galaxy, not Kart, nothing. They all seem rather dumbed down IMO and that's not what I want from my gaming time.
    Edited by 1 at 19/04/08 @ 11:31

  • Kryon #59 4 years ago

    ^^^ This is correct.

  • Pac-man-ate-my-wife #60 4 years ago

    Have you tried Zack & Wiki? Endless Ocean? PES? No More Heroes? Smash Bros? Trauma Centre? Kororinipa? Super Paper Mario?

    Of course there are rehashes on the platform - there are on all platforms - and, due to the Wiis popularity, it attracts more than most but you shouldn't judge a console on the crap on it but by the great titles of which the Wii has more than enough to justify it's existence. As I've said before judging a game by it's crap is like going into a library and declaring literature is crap because there are Barbara Cartland books there.

    If the games don't appeal to you, fair enough, but to try and argue there's nothing there is just blinkered fanboyism at it's very worst.

    There is nothing that makes me want to play it outside of that environment, not Galaxy, not Kart, nothing. They all seem rather dumbed down IMO and that's not what I want from my gaming time.

    Have you actually, y'know, tried them?
    Edited by 3 at 19/04/08 @ 11:50

  • Salvia #61 4 years ago

    Yeah tried them all. Didn't like them much.

    If the games appeal to you, fair enough, but to try and argue there's something there is just blinkered fanboyism at it's very worst. ;-)
    I'm just saying I find most of the Wii library a bit too fluffy, a bit too shallow. From my gaming I want to shut myself off and immerse myself in the experience something that I find doesn't work for me with the wiimote. It separates me from the experience being played out on screen.

  • WillTheSecond #62 4 years ago

    As far as I'm concerned Mario Galaxy looks like a low end 360 game anyway. Obviously when you're rendering in 480p instead of 720p (hardly any games are in 1080p so that's not even worth talking about) you have more room to created fancy video effects and certain bits of Mario Galaxy look ridiculously lovely.

    "There is nothing that makes me want to play it outside of that environment, not Galaxy, not Kart, nothing. They all seem rather dumbed down IMO and that's not what I want from my gaming time."

    Mario Kart Wii online is lovely and addictive. Yeah, the graphics are crap, but gameplay-wise enormously compelling. Have you played Galaxy, if not you should because you will almost certainly enjoy it.
    Edited by 1 at 19/04/08 @ 12:12

  • UncleLou #63 4 years ago

    something that I find doesn't work for me with the wiimote. It separates me from the experience being played out on screen.


    Well, I kind of understand that, I have that problem with gamepads

  • Antros1983 #64 4 years ago

    wii is great at what it was intended to do

  • Kryon #65 4 years ago

    @rdexter

    Purr-lease don't start with the old 'Uncharted iz teh bestest' SDF hyperbole again, I recently purchased a copy and was expecting something near to perfection after you and your cronies' glowing comments on the game (not to mention EG's nonsense about a 360 not being able to cope with visuals like that). Uncharted is good but it really is just a mish mash of Gears and Tomb Raider but worse than either in the elements it tries to copy. It DOES suffer from tearing and it DOES suffer from texture pop up as well. Seriously, it's an average game at best imo. Also, I paid £45 for it and completed it in one sitting and there is really no replay value at all. I would advise everyone who wants the game to rent it, as you can easily complete it in half a day and there is nothing to make you ever put it back in your PS3 after that.

  • Kryon #66 4 years ago

    @azmol01

    So, you enter the thread with this comment "xbot wankers" in some inane attempt to defend the Wii (as you said, a piece of plastic) and then you say this "You turn to playground insults"? So in your book "xbot wankers" is somehow not a playground insult? To top it off though, you then have the absolute audacity to try and call irony on ME? I think this is a good indication of your intellect being somewhat sub-par tbh...
    You're writing a 'narrative study' eh? ...Well, good luck with that... Perhaps you should just stick to playing Cooking Mama, eh...

  • Kryon #67 4 years ago

    "Ah well, it's all good, now back to my essay! Bye bye Kryon, enjoyed are little chat,"

    That would surely be "our" little chat, no? Enjoy the big fat 'F' you will no doubt be awarded for your literary skills.

  • justMe #68 4 years ago

    This is the reason for the lower average rating of Wii games, the (techically) lower quality of its graphics. Most mainstream gaming sites will judge a game (also) for its graphics. It says a lot for the quality of the gameplay you get with the Wii.

  • smelly #69 4 years ago

    @justMe wtf?

  • smelly #70 4 years ago

    Apparently according to people on here the 360 has games which have better "depth" than wii games.

    ... If someone can show me the "depth" of moving a cursor around a screen and pressing a button to fire a weapon (as in 99% of 360 games).. I'll be impressed.

    As for the ps3.. What games?

  • Kryon #71 4 years ago

    @azmoLOL

    Oooh, seems I've hit a nerve! Seriously kid, I've known 7 year old children who're harder to wind up than yourself. Again, another rather good indication of your (generally lacking) mental state :/

    "Oh noes, I made a spelling mistake on a gaming forum"

    Oh dear, you just keep digging yourself deeper into the pit of ultimate fuckwittery. You did not make a spelling mistake per se, rather you used a completely different (and inappropriate) word which in the spoken language is pronounced in a similar fashion hence a grammatical error, not a spelling mistake (unless you believe both words to have the same meaning). This may be a problem for you if you wish to be a journalist/critic or 'reviewer' (lol) as you put it. I seriously doubt you're a university student as you seem to have little or no concept of grammar (or anything else). Anyway, it's obviously past your bedtime poppet but I'm sure you'll be up bright and early tomorrow morning to watch Power Rangers and send another witless reply on here. I look forward to it, sleep tight.

  • Muddtallica #72 4 years ago

    Man...I was reading through this and considering adding something to the discussion, until I realised that said "discussion" now consists entirely of Kryon and azmol flicking rubber-bands at each other and going at it with their peashooters.

    Not that the discussion was going anywhere anyway; just another facile message-board adventure to Planet I Don't Like X, Therefore X Is Shit. Nevertheless, I can't help but feel baffled when I see this retarded logic coming from the likes of TRUTH and Salvia here, people aren't just childishly scoring points, but instead seem to genuinely believe what they're saying, that their point of view genuinely is somehow worth more than everyone else's. From where does this insecurity stem? Why does someone else have to be wrong for you to be right?

  • Kryon #73 4 years ago

    /peashooters Muddtallica in the eye ;)

  • CitizenGeek #74 4 years ago

    I commend High Voltage's honesty!

  • Artemis_Matsas #75 4 years ago

    "With Conduit, we are trying to make a Wii game that looks like a 360 title."

    LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL

  • orakio #76 4 years ago

    Why "LOOOOOOOOL"?

    He didn't say they will produce a game that looks like a 360 titile, they're merely trying...
    And it's a good thing that they are. Otherwise Wii owners will never see any evolution in the upcoming years.

  • Kryon #77 4 years ago

    <a href=http://i29.tinypic .com/2a0jr48.jpg>This</a> is what happens when Wii devs get too big for their boots! :D

  • sneetch #78 4 years ago

    Very bold claims with a lot of truth in them (about how Wii games, especially first person shooters, do tend to look like crap when compared with PC/360/PS3 titles). However the screen shots of their game aren't all that astounding. The models are basic (more Counterstrike than Crysis, see the screen shot linked below for what I mean), shadows are a simple circle beneath the model and in some of the screen shots the models almost look like they've been cut and pasted onto the backdrops. The backdrops are similarly bland and basic although some of the interior scenes look good. A bit square though.

    [link url=http://wii.ign.com/ dor/objects/14248157/the-conduit/images/the-conduit-20080417 032703348.html
    ]http://wi i.ign.com/dor/objects/14248157/...[/link]

    That said, I appreciate that this is a title in development and it could look great when it's moving, so it's one to watch, I think.

  • Kryon #79 4 years ago

    @azmoLOL

    "Also the fact that you spent an entire paragraph ridiculing my grammatical error and implying that I'm lieing about my circumstances"

    Seriously, you're telling me you're a university student studying in the hope of one day getting a job as a journalist of sorts? I mean, I'm not even being funny anymore mate, give up now, you stand no chance because your spelling/grammar is at a primary school level (this is not meant as an insult, I'm actually trying to stop you from wasting your life on dreams that will never come true). Every single post you make has errors in it. I mean, what is "lieing"? I'll tell you what it is, it's not a word you fuck wit. Perhaps you meant "lying"? The funniest part is, I bet you spent all day going over your post with a fine tooth comb to iron out any mistakes and you still failed epically. I'm seriously shocked that a uni would even admit someone as obviously 'lacking' as yourself tbh... Stick to the retail job, maybe you could even be a 'senior' sales assistant by the time you're 30.

    @MattDamon

    "The guy was on here on a saturday night!!! Saddo!!!"

    The fact I was in on Saturday evening would perhaps indicate (to an intelligent person) that I have no need to crawl the local bars and clubs in a desperate prepubescent search for a quick sniff of minge (or probably cock, in your case). The very fact that you made such a comment indicates to me that it is in fact you who is the virgin who every Saturday night sprays half a can of Tesco value brand deodorant down the front of his nappy in the hope of enticing some poor chav munter back to his (mums) place for a quick finger.

    Why do you even bother? Haven't I owned you multiple times in the past already? What happened, you grew a pube and thought you'd try your luck again? Or maybe you thought that by teaming up with azmoLOL you could attempt to match my superior intellect? Here's a tip, next time you should pick a comrade who can actually string a sentence together properly.

    Have fun jizzing over your Wii sales figures kids.

  • Mindstorm #80 4 years ago

    oh dear god

  • UncleLou #81 4 years ago

    Why do you even bother? Haven't I owned you multiple times in the past already?

    Heh, seriously, you've never ever "owned" anyone here but yourself. Never. :D

  • Kryon #82 4 years ago

    Aww, Lou's trying to get some attention from me, how cute.

    /Pats Lou on his scruffy little head

  • InsoFox #83 4 years ago

    When did this become a Wii vs everything else debate?

    I don't know why people have to think the Wii is up against anything. It occupies its own little space in my and many other people's collections. When I go to get a game for my Wii, I'm after a different kind of experience to when I get a 360 games.

    Broadly speaking I buy 360 games when I want to be immersed in rich and detailed worlds, and I buy Wii games to reconnect to a more whimsical, simple-but-not-simplistic and in a way more joyous aspect of gaming which I feel that most consoles don't provide for so much.

    Of course, it's not as simple as all that; there's cross over. Metroid Prime has its cute elements (i mean, look at that spaceship, and running around shooting doors to open them) but essentially it's as straightforwardly immersive as anything I've played on a 360. Then again, the 360 has Live Arcade titles and things like Katamari, some of which are just as whimsical and joyous as anything I have on the Wii. The point is, I can like both things at once, and having both consoles helps me to do that. Maybe one day even the PS3 will fill a gap for me.

    Anyway, it's nice to see people pushing the graphical capabilities of the Wii, because there's really no reason not to. And aiming for 360-like visuals might seem a high and unlikely goal, but it's just a goal, and if they can even get halfway there that'd be a nice achievement.
    Edited by 1 at 21/04/08 @ 17:21

  • spekkeh #84 4 years ago

    This is what happens when Kryon goes out shopping for games.

  • Kryon #85 4 years ago

    <a href=http://i70.photobucket.com/albums/i83/quasarradio 204/retard.jpg>This</a> is spekkeh, period.

  • Aria #86 4 years ago

    This is just getting out of hand...

  • spekkeh #87 4 years ago

    This is blasphemy! This is madness!

  • Jheronimus #88 4 years ago

    @InsoFox

    You've nailed it. Finally someone is making sense in this... Azmol01 and Kryon are both battling for the 'Apologie-of-the-month'-award for retardism and trolling on EG.

    I love my 360 and I like the breath of fresh air my old love Ninty had brought to the market. In general, I love games, not a brand. Everyone is allowed his preferences, but please, respect each other differences. We don't live in the USSR or Nazi-Germany!

    [/hippy]
    Edited by 1 at 21/04/08 @ 14:29

  • WillTheSecond #89 4 years ago

    "This is blasphemy! This is madness!"

    This. Is. FANBOYISM!

  • Kryon #90 4 years ago

    "Lol, Kryon...that is all."

    Wow, you actually managed a post without any mistakes? I'm truly amazed! You even managed to spell "Lol" without any help from your mummy! Well done son, good job.

    /Gives AzmoLOL a gold star for effort.