Moore: PES is in FIFA's "rear view mirror" News
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EA Sports president Peter Moore has claimed there's now "distance" between the quality of FIFA and fierce rival Pro Evolution Soccer, with Konami's kickaround now in EA's "rear view mirror".
But Moore, while admitting his team had done "so well" with FIFA 09, revealed he is demanding a Metacritic rating of 90 for this year's version, up from the 87 recorded by the 360 and PS3 versions of 09.
"I want 90!" he told Eurogamer last week, at the Emirates Stadium in north London for the unveiling of FIFA 10 "It's a challenge, and as I said in the presentation, it's not easy with sports games to continue to raise the bar every single year - and it's half tongue-in-cheek as I know how difficult it is."
Moore announced his desire for a 90 average during a briefing with UK journalists, as FIFA producer Dave Rutter watched from the sidelines.
"FIFA 09 has been spectacular and we've got a high bar for FIFA 10," Moore said afterwards. "So yeah, Rutter's got some work to do, but yeah, I'd like a 90 this year."
Speaking of the series' long-standing competition with Pro Evolution Soccer, Moore added: "I don't underestimate Konami. I've spent a lot of time, as you know, in Japan over the years and they're a great company. The day we start resting on our laurels is the day we start slipping back.
"We've got a little bit of distance in the rear view mirror between ourselves and our competitor right now, but we can't get complacent and we can't stop trying to innovate and making sure we keep that distance between us and them."
We've seen and played FIFA 10, but we're not allowed to tell you anything about it just yet thanks to a pesky embargo. But we will soon, promise. In the meantime, there's much more from Moore on Eurogamer today.
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DutchDemons
30/04/09 @ 10:08
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again with the whole 'metacritic= the truth'...how has this slipped into peoples minds?
Fifa 09 does rule tho. won't be buying fifa 10 however, what with 09 being that awesome and all :-) |
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MisterCraig
30/04/09 @ 10:26
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All this talk about PS3 beating the 360 in 5 years, and EA being better than Konami: it's like children in a school playground spreading silly rumours.
It's not news.
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Without PES EA never would of got it's thumb out of it's arse and made fifa 09. It's a shame though that PES hasn't moved forward, but when EA bought critereon games they cut off access to renderware which is what konami used to make PES so they've had to start from scratch on a new engine on the new consoles and that is probably what's been sucking away the budget for the last few years.
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Yep PES convert here too. Always loved the whole PES series on the PS2 (and the first incarnation on 360) but they have gone backwards in recent years. The engine used to be terrific but compared to FIFA's it feels very scripted and almost cheating sometimes.
FIFA 09 is a fantastic game and i hope they progress with FIFA 10. An edit mode would be nice but not too sure if they will put this in due to licensing? Maybe. Maybe not. Roll on September though! |
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Really looking forward to Fifa 10, (ironic name, probably at least 10 iterations!).
Fifa 09 is still going strong for me and a mate of mine as we are both into our 3rd season on management mode, its awesome. Fingers crossed its as good as 09 with lots of nice added features. Can't see how the animations/gameplay can be any smoother though. |
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The engine used to be terrific but compared to FIFA's it feels very scripted and almost cheating sometimes.
Not that there isn't plenty of scripting (and AI cheating) in FIFA 09's SP as well, especially when you play some of the tournament modes, but I agree that it doesn't feel as blatant as the ones in the latest PES installments. I am hoping though they will fix the keepers (which are incredibly dumb with loose balls but all-out super-heroes on the line), the referees (who love to fuck with the advantage rule), make the pitch a bit bigger, slow the pace down even more and have the computer controlled teams play more tactical and less about 'constant attack'. Conceding goals from the AI which are NOT based on some dodgy deflection, your defender mis-timing a tackle/clearance or your goalie parrying off the shot right onto the foot of their attacker would also be nice. I could also do with a few less hits to aluminum and a revamped shot engine that doesn't have every slight touch of the shoot button result in the ball ballooning over the cross bar. Konami OTOH should finally scrap the PS2 from their target platforms and think about writing a brand new engine tailored to 'next-gen'. Before that won't happen, the game is always going to be riddled by the same old problems. |
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"and have the computer controlled teams play more tactical and less about 'constant attack'."
The CPU does timewaste when it's ahead towards the end to be fair. It's incredibly frustrating when you're trying to get back in the game and it heads for the corner flag or starts passing the ball around at the back.
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The CPU does timewaste when it's ahead towards the end to be fair. It's incredibly frustrating when you're trying to get back in the game and it heads for the corner flag or starts passing the ball around at the back.
Yes, you are right. Frustrating as hell, especially as your players stubbornly hesitate to move up the pitch even though you have the slider set all the way to offence. Still, I am always amused by the way even low ranked AI teams playing the away side kick into immediate counter-attack when they get hold of the ball and tend to reach your goal mouth with one long, pixel-perfect pass down the middle. There seems to be no lateral play whatsover when it comes to the CPU. And there seems to be no meta/contextual scripting in place either, like for example Chelsea going for a goal-less draw at Nou Camp in a CL semi first leg. Instead they charge at you like there was no tomorrow and because the stats are designed that way. |
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Fifa 09 really is a much better game than PES 2009, saying it isn't is lying. The first time I played Fifa I hated it. But the more and more I played it the more I realised how realistic it is.
Lookin forward to both Fifa 10 and Pes 2010 as I'm only going to buy them based on the demo and not loyalty, which made me buy PES2008 on the PS3. |
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Kirly_Wombat
30/04/09 @ 19:50
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Just wanted to add my agreement with a few that have been put above. I love fifa09, besides a few niggles its almost my perfect football game. 10 would have to offer something pretty damn good to make me move away from 9 now.
Just wanted to add I was a PES man all the way until they got lazy.
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Naboomagnoli
30/04/09 @ 21:18
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PES4 isn't in PES 5 or 6's league either. It's barely in PES1's league.
PES 2008+ aren't even football games. Fifa 09 has a LOT of room for improvement, even if it is a very good football game. Assisted controls need to be binned for a start, or at the very least made no more assisted than PES's controls; at the moment if you had any more assistance you wouldn't need to press pass, let alone aim. Manual through balls are broken as well.
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While it's very good Fifa 09 is not perfect, and not really realistic either.
PES 09 looks flat and rigid because of outdated robotic animations, but it actually plays a better game of football than Fifa (at least with manual controls), it has better more weighted ball physics instead of the balloon ball in Fifa that rises too high, a lower pace, better AI and positioning, less reliance on speed and through balls and more variety in goalscoring, better fatigue where you actually have to make subs etc. If PES had an equivalent of Fifa's animation engine it would be seen more clearly. |
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