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News by Robert Purchese

13 June, 2008

Microsoft hardware boss Robbie Bach has had a bit of a go at the PSP, criticising the device for trying to do too many things at once.

"The PSP is a reasonably successful product at the profit-and-loss level. But as a product concept, there are cautionary tales to learn from it," Bach told VentureBeat (spotted by Kotaku).

"While it is good at producing audio, it's not a good music player because it doesn't have local storage (except for flash memory slots). You can't keep your music there. It has a beautiful screen, but you can only get the video under the Universal Media Disc format. That format hasn't been successful. On a game level, it has done well. But even there, it is mostly PlayStation 2 ports. There isn't much original content." Tell us how you really feel, Robbie.

"When you do these devices, they can't be pretty good at a lot of things. They need to be great at what they do."

Bach went on to say he thinks of the PSP as a game player that also does video and music, unlike the Zune - which he feels is a more "broad-based entertainment device". "It is technically possible to do games on [Zune]," he added. "But you aren't going to see a broad gaming effort from us until we sort that through and have it figured out."

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spongebob
13/06/08 @ 08:54
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Only thing they got right was homebrew scene.
spongebob
13/06/08 @ 08:54
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Sorry.
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Eraysor
13/06/08 @ 08:56
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I only use my PSP because it's hacked beyond all recognition, which actually makes it useful.

Also, Zune games are pretty awesome. Wireless multiplayer Pong!

I have a Zune and personally I think it's far better than an iPod. Much larger screen, easy to make homebrew applications for it, wireless syncing and a more intuitive touchpad.
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johnnybrn
13/06/08 @ 08:57
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The Zune is hardly something to be proud of
dadrester
13/06/08 @ 08:58
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it's an ace movie player. i just wish it could reliably play standard def divx files.
aldo_14
13/06/08 @ 09:01
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Hasn't the Zune been a bit of a financial/sales failure? Albiet, what the hell has it got to do with the PSP, when it's closer to an iPod?
Dizzy
13/06/08 @ 09:02
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Water is still wet.
SEVQA
13/06/08 @ 09:03
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This dude is an idiot! You can watch movie's off your MSpro! And the philosophy of do what the hell you want with a product, obviously doesn't fit into Microsoft’s model of, you are free do as we tell you, so we can eventually charge you for shit services and content! Be it Sony, Nintendo or Microsoft, the PSP rocks and is loved by many.
McFly55
13/06/08 @ 09:03
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Another pop at Sony for the sake of it.
Bloodkult
13/06/08 @ 09:06
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Holy shit Batman! UMD a failure!
Hold the front page for this breaking news!
seasidebaz
13/06/08 @ 09:08
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News At Ten:
UMD a failure.

Next tonight:
The sun will rise tomorrow.
XdarXideX
13/06/08 @ 09:08
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This is news? Is it slow today? Have you turned into The Sun, eurogamer?
bag-in-box
13/06/08 @ 09:17
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so i must remove my music from my psp now then? :S
DanWhitehead
13/06/08 @ 09:19
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Have you turned into The Sun, eurogamer?

Well, I have got my tits out...
Murbal
13/06/08 @ 09:31
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Mostly PS2 ports my f***ing arse.
betahoven
13/06/08 @ 09:33
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MS should talk more about their own products and less about their competitors'.
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Goffee
13/06/08 @ 09:35
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I'm not sure how he can criticise the PSP on this point. It can be argued that UMD is a failure, but Sony are starting to offer games by download, so the PSP is evolving - meaning the product is flexible, therefore (at least a little bit) good

And why bring the sack of poop Zune into the argument, hasn't even launched in most markets, so much for an iPod killer...
MattDamon
13/06/08 @ 09:36
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What a pointless little rant this man has had.

PSP isn't perfect, but it's not a bad little machine. Got me through many a journey.

Let's see Microsoft better it then if that's your talk
MattDamon
13/06/08 @ 09:37
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What a pointless little rant this man has had.

PSP isn't perfect, but it's not a bad little machine. Got me through many a journey.

Let's see Microsoft better it then if that's your talk
kangarootoo
13/06/08 @ 09:38
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Hmmm. I think this guy needs to do a little research.

"While it is good at producing audio, it's not a good music player because it doesn't have local storage (except for flash memory slots). You can't keep your music there."

That is like saying a camera is not good for storing photos if it only has an SD card slot. A bit of an odd thing to say.

"It has a beautiful screen, but you can only get the video under the Universal Media Disc format."

Or you can watch video files from the memory stick. There are plenty of shareware apps out there that let you convert pretty mcuh anything into PSP friendly video. And didn't I read about a firmware update (current or future, I'm not sure) that lets you drop an SD resolution of any Bluray film from your PS3 to your PSP's memory card?

"On a game level, it has done well. But even there, it is mostly PlayStation 2 ports. There isn't much original content."

That one isn't even worth responding to. As an observation of the games industry as a whole one could say there isn't much original content. I think of all the beneath-TV platforms, the 360 (which I own) could be mostly easily accused of a lack of variety.


I'm not saying the PSP is the futaar or anything. The DS has an awful lot going for it and is clearly kicking the PSP's arse globally. I just tend to think that when people open their mouths in public they should probably make sure that the words which come out make a proportionally high degree of sense.

Cage rattling like this kind of makes me wonder whether MS have something on the cards in the same "does more than just games" sector.
kangarootoo
13/06/08 @ 09:39
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@XdarXideX

Christ, can people just cork their gobs with this whole "slow news day" bollox. News sources are there to report news, not decide what is and isn't news. This is gaming news, so EG should report it. If you don't want to read it CLOSE YOUR EYES.

/sigh
mingster
13/06/08 @ 09:48
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What a nob.
You can watch any media format from the memory stick .. doesn't require UMD at all.
You can rip any format to the memory stick vioa USb using unix/apple or windows.
You can use it to listen to internet radio/shoutcast
You can watch you tube on it.
It browses the web.
It plays any PS1/GBA/ SNES/MAME/NEO-GEO game
it plays PSP games...
It has a camera... (extra) It has GPS (extra) it has skype capability... (extra) Messaging....
it pretty much does everything except give you a blow job.
Compare this to the Zune and it wipes the floor with it.
MS man you should be ashamed of spouting pure rubbish like that.
miiiguel
13/06/08 @ 10:06
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"MS should talk more about their own products and less about their competitors'. " and "One might ask why MS felt the need right now to rag on the psp. " and... many more:

Maybe if you read the whole interview, you could know that someone asked him if he was planning for the Zune something like PSP....
FFS.., I've been told this is cinical-land, but sometimes it's just too much.

The funniest thing about Zune (well, in here, it's kinda usual), is that it is a product most of you only saw in pictures, and still... you're passionate about it.

/turns on Zune.../

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johnnybrn
13/06/08 @ 10:27
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@ Miiiguel,

The funniest thing about Zune (well, in here, it's kinda usual), is that it is a product most of you only saw in pictures, and still... you're passionate about it.

Going to have to disagree with that statement, I own a 360 and love it, and own a ipod and love it. Not interested in the Zune.
Rubakai
13/06/08 @ 10:45
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I wish they would make more games for PSP, i agree with his suggestions from this point of view

Cant wait for Blood Bowl
dadrester
13/06/08 @ 10:45
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UMD as a movie format = Fail
HD-DVD as a movie format = Fail
miiiguel
13/06/08 @ 11:07
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I own and iPod and I own a Zune, and they do basicaly the same thing (well Zune has the radio thing, which I like). But neither are a reinvention of the wheel, I mean... you put music in it, and then you...er... listen to it.
I can't pragmaticaly say iPod suck or Zune suck... well, without sounding even weirder than I usually do.
homerramone
13/06/08 @ 11:16
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On a game level, it has done well.
So a handheld gaming device hasnt done that well if its good at playing games and not so good any anything else....

Riiiight.
QPRHOOPS81
13/06/08 @ 11:46
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ease of hacking the PSP is its biggest struggling point. I dont know anyone with a PSP that buys games for it. They all have custom firmware. Though to be fair the DS has the same issue and thats even easier to hack.

I guess the difference is lots of people (not everyone before i get shouted at) who buy the DS (eg. mums, young kids) wouldnt even think of hacking it. The PSP on the otherhand is normally owned by people more technology savy. These people are more likely to know about hacking etc.

I know lots of people will disagree with this but of all the people i know with DS's only two use an R4. One of those was because the first guy sorted it for her. Before he informed her about it she didnt know you could. Whereas on the PSP as i said every single person i know with one has it hacked.

I can understand why you would run copied games. PSP running game off UMD is slow loading and the batt lasts about 4 hrs. Whereas running off a memory card loading times are vastly quicker and the batt lasts for about 13 hrs. Also the ability to use homebrew is a massive insentive. I guess on the DS this isnt the case as pirate games give no advantage other than cost.

Whatever the case poor game sales mean less developers are ready to spend alot of time making games (god of war developers just quit PSP). That game was great but i dont know anyone who paid for it.
penguin_overlord
13/06/08 @ 12:06
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Rather pointless rant by Microsoft, especially as the PSP regularly outsells the 360 in many territories. In fact it's the shining star in Japan at the moment and is helping to keep the PlayStation brand at the forefront.
Mr_Bison
13/06/08 @ 12:16
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We think your machine is crap....we dont have anything...but theirs is crap

o.k boy its 6 o'clock go to bed now
septimus
13/06/08 @ 12:44
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UMD hasn't been successful? Welcome to 2005 MS guy!

Cock.

Anyway, PSP is still a good handheld with some very good games. (Crisis Core is excellent and well worth getting as a side note).
XdarXideX
13/06/08 @ 12:54
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kangarootoo> Sorry, but recently there have been too many "stories" seemingly designed to create competitive behaviour.
Skywise
13/06/08 @ 14:08
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Has their Zune sold even 1/10th of the PSP?

Their whole story of having a focused device seems weird in light of these sales figures.
djcool3005
13/06/08 @ 14:48
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I don't think the boss of Microsoft hardware can complain since Microsoft's main Hardware, the 360 itself, overheats, breaks and is also very very noisy. He should be taking a lesson from Sony on how to build good hardware.
BuckoA51
13/06/08 @ 15:07
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"You can watch any media format from the memory stick .. doesn't require UMD at all. "

You can, but it's not a very good solution is it? Storage space is limited and ripping movies takes a long time and some technical know-how.

The point he's making is that the PSP can do lots of things, but none of them particularly well. It's hobbled as a media player (UMD, Limited storage) as a games console it's got lots of dodgy ports, and a crap analogue stick and d-pad (psp lite has at least fixed that)
yes it can browse the web, but come on, actually entering text is a chore (I suppose you can use bookmarks) mobile web browsing really needs a touch screen. As for emulators well yes that is the best bit for a lot of people but the PSP isn't even supposed to do that legally. Skype? Get real, it makes the (mark 1) N-Gage look like a usable phone.

Mind you, I'd still rather have a PSP than a Zune :)

Feanor
13/06/08 @ 17:18
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Buying a PSP at launch has been a great decision for me because of games like Wipeout Pure & Pulse, FF Tactics, Crisis Core FFVII and Ridge Racer 2.
Tweakmonkey
13/06/08 @ 17:58
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The PSP is a great device. This man is talking cobblers.
seasidebaz
13/06/08 @ 18:39
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Anyone who agrees with this guy has never had a PSP.
Wildsleven
14/06/08 @ 00:53
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i bet he owns a psp!
louyfitz
20/06/08 @ 16:24
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I have a psp, 2 actually. and I do sorta agree with him.

I would love to see an Xbox branded handheld, and I'm sure if they made one it would be better than the PSP (FOR ME, not for everyone, before I get flamed)


PSP cant play FPS games in any traditional sense of the word, one analogue "nub" is a fucking stupid idea.

come on MS, I know it'll be over priced, unrealiable and bulky, but I wanna see a handheld.

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