Microsoft confirms Kinect price

By Wesley Yin-Poole Published 20 July, 2010

And a new Xbox 360 model.

Kinect will cost £129.99/€149.99, and come bundled with launch title Kinect Adventures, Microsoft has confirmed.

"We obviously don't make pricing decisions without doing our research," Xbox product director Aaron Greenberg told Eurogamer in an interview published elsewhere on the site.

"We've done a number of pricing studies on a global scale across a whole variety of audience segments. We've found that when we talked to consumers about the different types of experiences you get with Kinect, the sensor with the full game at £129.99 does quite well.

"There will be a whole new wave of consumers looking for all new ways to experience games and entertainment. To be able to do that with the console plus the sensor and the game at that value is pretty unprecedented."

Microsoft also revealed a new Xbox 360 4GB model, to be launched in the UK on 20th August, priced £149.99/€199.99.

The Xbox 360 4GB plus the Kinect sensor and Kinect Adventures will be available as a bundle for £249.99/€299.99 when Kinect launches in the UK this November.

While Microsoft is yet to announce A UK release date for Kinect, retailers have this evening begun taking pre-orders for the device, the new Xbox 360 4GB and the bundle.

The new Xbox 360 4GB differs slightly from the Xbox 360 250GB unveiled during Microsoft's E3 2010 conference last month.

The 4GB is internal flash memory, and the console has a black matte finish. Otherwise it's exactly the same as the "whisper quiet" Xbox 360 250GB, and includes built in Wi-Fi, the smaller design, and a hard drive bay.

"It will effectively replace the Arcade console," Greenberg said. "We see it as a great value entry price point for consumers. We're upgrading the storage to a full 4GB, which is quite a bit of storage. At £149.99 we think that's a great price point."

More than 15 Kinect-enabled games will be available at launch, including the bundled Kinect Adventures, and Kinect Sports, Kinectimals and Kinect Joy Ride.

All first party Kinect games will retail for £39.99. Kinect Adventures, however, will be a full-price retail game.

Microsoft has high hopes for the sensor. Greenberg likened Kinect's launch to that of a new console.

"A lot of people have talked about this being the type of leap you would typically see when you went to a new generation," he said.

"But the nice thing is we're able to bring that next generation experience to market this generation.

"We already have storage. We already have high definition gaming. We already have a connected online community. So adding the sensor to the experience enables us to unlock a whole new variety of games and entertainment. We're pretty optimistic this will provide multiple years of life to the current life cycle."

Hot off the press shots of Kinect and the new Xbox 360 4GB bundle are below.

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  • StooMonster #1 2 years ago

    23 million people have bought the Wii Fit Balance Board for £90 RRP (or less if they shopped around), about a third of Wii owners; so I guess Microsoft are hoping that a fair few Xbox 360 owners will be prepared to pay £130 RRP for Kinect.

    Even if ratio was half as many as Wii Balance Board, say 15% of 40m sales of Xbox 360, that's 6 million Kinects @ £130 which is £780m -- certainly more than a billion dollars in retail revenue.

    Lots of suggestions for £50 price-point below, is Kinect really worth 55% of price of a Wii Balance Board? [Edit: Wii Fit RRP was under-priced]
    Edited by 3 at 20/07/10 @ 18:23

  • Markusdragon #2 2 years ago

    £50 too much for me, but then, that's the launch day RRP, so that's to be expected.

  • andywilkie35 #3 2 years ago

    Cor! I can't wait to dish out loads of cash for the death of gaming!

    Fuck this waggle cunt shit.

    /picks up PS2 pad

  • Spooke #4 2 years ago

    They are insane. I was thinking they would pitch this against the Move. Now the move will shift far more units. The E3 demo of Kinect was far from convincing and at this price there is no way I'm getting on on launch day.
    Edited by 1 at 20/07/10 @ 17:11

  • Deckard1 #5 2 years ago

    To be honest I don't think it has a hope in hell at that price.

  • BAM! #6 2 years ago

    £250 for the console bundle seems pretty high to me.

  • Garwoofoo #7 2 years ago

    At £129.99 this is dead in the water.

  • captain_Carl #8 2 years ago

    I can make you look like a twat for a hell of a lot less money than that

  • sjmlondon #9 2 years ago

    I think I'd stick with my controller and my comfy sofa.

  • thedaveeyres #10 2 years ago

    Oops, too much!

  • Haerger #11 2 years ago

    Yeah, the price is still too high.

  • lennon #12 2 years ago

    Waits for the inevitable lack of stock over the xmas period.....

  • BAM! #13 2 years ago

    Hmm, a Kinect 360 with MS software for £250, or a Wii with Nintendo software for £150. Tough choice.

  • the_dudefather #14 2 years ago

    I was so excited to see it at a low price I accidentally dropped my monocle into my caviar cereal

  • Mkwone #15 2 years ago

    So the price of move for 2 players (the full setup of 2 move, 1 camera & 2 nav controllers) and kinect (which can handle 2 active players) are both the same price (give or take a few quid.

    As an inital outlay, it's a lot of money, too much for the average person to take a punt with i'd hazard a guess.

    Edited by 1 at 20/07/10 @ 17:31

  • MaxHughes #16 2 years ago

    Wow, £129.99. That is rather an absurd amount of money..

  • YoshiMcTaggis #17 2 years ago

    £130?!

    Luckily for MS, I enjoy being raped.

    Actually perhaps it's so high so your arse will hurt so much you can't sit down and break the games.
    Edited by 1 at 20/07/10 @ 17:22

  • madgerald Verified Studio Head of PR & Marketing, Colossal Games LTD #18 2 years ago

    I'd like to see Microsoft try and sell this to the Dragon's Den lot..

    I'm out!

  • deez #19 2 years ago

    even though I see it as a gimmick that will be very poor, I would have probably bought one had it been half that price. sadly, I'll now wait and fully expect to be proven correct when nothing worthwhile comes out.

  • the_sas_man #20 2 years ago

    £129.99 too much for me...

  • JohnnyWashnGo #21 2 years ago

    Waaaaay too much. For that money I could buy an arcade stick ;)

  • thestjohn #22 2 years ago

    Considering the number of middle aged women I sold Wii, Wiimote + Wii Fit bundles to when said bundles were £300 a pop with no other option a few years ago a £250 bundle doesn't seem too bad. Though £130 for Kinect on it's own? I reckon it might drop in price to £99 after a few months. Why? 'Cause I like unfounded speculation.

  • Darren #23 2 years ago

    £130 puts it beyond the buy-purely-for-the-curiousity-value for me. I'd have bought it just for the buzz of navigating the dashboard Minority Report-style had it been £60 or less though.

    Good luck to Microsoft selling Kinect at that price, they're going to need it!!!

  • rickimalone #24 2 years ago

    £130! + the purchase of an Xbox 360!?!?!?!?!?

    I'm sorry but Microsoft has completely missed the point here. At £49.99 I would have perhaps considered it. At £130! No chance and I doubt the casual audience Microsoft is trying to attract will either.

    I might pick one up from Tesco for £29.99 + 10 games - 6 months after launch and went its status as a flop has been confirmed and retailers are trying to shift dead stock.

    SHOCKING MS ( A lesson in history - just Google Mega-CD or 32x)
    Edited by 1 at 20/07/10 @ 17:26

  • mcmonkeyplc #25 2 years ago

    I'll wait for the price drop.

  • thedaveeyres #26 2 years ago

    The only conceivable way that MS will shift this to the casuals is if they rename it "Wii". Joe/Joanna Casual are committed to the Nintendo branding now, you can't do a 180 halfway through a console's lifecycle and hope to pitch it to a new market successfully. Not a sniff.

  • yellowParrot #27 2 years ago

    If this isn't bundled with a HD-DVD drive then I am not interested......
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/10 @ 10:53

  • Shikasama #28 2 years ago

    So many market experts in here. It's a wonder Microsoft don't give you all great jobs.

  • rudderless #29 2 years ago

    The key to all this, though, isn't Kinect, but the new 360 bundle. MS is, after all, trying to expand its userbase, not just serve its existing consumers. It's more bothered about flogging the new console with Kinect than the peripheral on its own.

    But either way £250 still feels a little steep to me, particularly given the teeny-tiny 4GB of HDD space. And £130 will put off the core gamers who might - at a more reasonable price - have considered getting it.

    £200 for an Arcade plus Kinect would perhaps have made more sense. As things stand, MS had better hope its marketing department earns its corn this Christmas.

  • wardeana #30 2 years ago

    Silly price. Should be 60 quid tops.

  • Darren #31 2 years ago

    Also the 4 GB Xbox 360's pricing makes the 250 GB HDD model look really good value considering you're getting an extra 218 GB (formatted) of storage space for £50 more.It wasn't that long ago that Microsoft were selling their 20 GB HDDs for £60!

  • siro #32 2 years ago

    I'd be really interested in a matt finish slim, but not the 4 gig version. Put a HD in there and I upgrade my current 360.

    I won't comment on Kinect pricing. Everything has been said about that already.

  • braydee89 #33 2 years ago

    MS don't seem to have heard of the word "recession"

  • MaFlippinHeadHurts #34 2 years ago

    The only way this will sell at that price is if it turns out better than it already looks........then again look at the sales on the Wii Fit -what a pile of rubbish that thing is, think my kids must have turned that thing on a total of 5 times and that was in the first week of release

    This should have been under £100 quid!

  • madgerald Verified Studio Head of PR & Marketing, Colossal Games LTD #35 2 years ago

    Microsoft are pitching this at the casual market, not at the hardcore gamer. The problem is, the casual market already have a console, the Wii. And, because they are 'casual' gamers (the clue is in the name casual), they're less likely to buy another console and hardware to do exactly the same thing they can already do with nicer graphics.

    /my2cents

  • NewbieZilla #36 2 years ago

    Is there really anything on Kinect that will make it worth the purchase when its released? Oh, there is that game from the crowd who made Rez, but other than that? No? As I thought. So, even if the price was good I'd still be waiting quite a while before getting one.

    People who are whining about the price, were you really going to buy it at release date if it was good value? If so, why? What games inclined you that way? Or is it some absurd notion of having something that will not be used is in some way preparation?

  • Sonic_D #37 2 years ago

    I echo other comments that suggest this is £50-70 too much.

  • DonnieDarko333 #38 2 years ago

    It's not really the price of Kinect which has me baffled...come on, it was always going to be over £99.99 (even if we all think it shouldn't be) it's the game prices! At least Wii games are priced accordingly..you get your 'bigger' games like Zelda, Mario etc..for £39.99 and then you get your mini-game collections ranging from £19.99-£29.99.

    £49.99 RRP (shall we say £40 here..) seems ridiculous for a game such as 'Joyride'.

  • superstu1337 #39 2 years ago

    Pre-Order = Cancelled.

  • StooMonster #40 2 years ago

    pswii6o: how can they justify paying the same price as a Wii or second hand 360/PS3

    A brand new Wii is £180, not £130 -- and I've just discovered that the cheapest Xbox 360 is £120, so Kinect is more expensive than a new Xbox 360, let alone a second-hand one (which makes my first post above about £120 for console redundant).

  • mcwildcard #41 2 years ago

    Holy fucksticks!
    Move has a really strong chance of dominating now, helped by the fact a fair few already have the camera due to Eyepet.
    Fact is, both systems will have a faecal tidal wave of shovelware to wash over the launches of their respective peripherals, but from where i'm standing Sony are at least making some attempt to appeat to the hardcore gamers.
    I've got a preorder in for a Move, I think it's worth a punt for £32, if I like it I'll invest in a nav controller, but it all depends on how well it works in supported FPS games. At worst I'll lose £15 on it if it's rubbish and i sell it on to Cex or somewhere.
    £130 for a Kinect is absolute madness, that's not a punt, it's a mug bet.
    Edited by 1 at 20/07/10 @ 17:38

  • assache #42 2 years ago

    I'm guessing that the £129.99 is at 17.5% VAT rate in the UK? £129.99 Will be far too much in the 'probable' financial climate at the time of release for your casuals. The likely UK VAT rate will be 20% at time of release, so, does that mean the actual price will be £135!!! Either way, no sale.

  • Markitron #43 2 years ago

    Agree that its a bit too high, the much lower entry level of move makes it look like the more attractive prospect

  • Darren #44 2 years ago

    @StooMonster - I bet a brand new Wii doesn't cost £180 come November though. ;)

  • RevanNL #45 2 years ago

    Why won't motion control just fuck off and die?

  • drumbaby #46 2 years ago

    Anyone in the standing position (the only position suitable for using Kinect) has just fainted at that news.

  • daz_john_smith #47 2 years ago

    @StooMonster
    Basic Wii with Wii Sports - £120
    Black Wii with Wii Sport, Sports Resort and Motion Plus - £150

    Come Nov they'll be even cheaper

  • beastmaster #48 2 years ago

    £130? Just over the price of 3 games at retail price. It's not so much the price but how well it works. If it does what it's supposed to then I may well be swayed.

    As soon as there are 5 games for this that I deem worthy, I'll probably buy it. By then they'll have ironed out any bugs and the like with it.

  • StooMonster #49 2 years ago

    I was going by current Wii price RRP, which you can get discounted on the internet ... maybe Kinect will be available for less that its RRP too?

  • radlord #50 2 years ago

    haha £130. Didn't they take the co-processors out of it to get the price down? God knows what it would have cost if it wasn't just two eyetoys stitched together.

  • Acrid #51 2 years ago

    No ta, I could get about 8 games for that

  • NimbusTLD #52 2 years ago

    Fail.

  • Cuke #53 2 years ago

    Yes it's expensive, yes £50 would have got a load of us jumping in on launch day almost just for the hell of it...

    However, the key is going to be software... If there's none worth speaking of in the 6/12 months after launch then even £50 will seem a rip off. If they pull it off though and a few amazing games arrive then we'll all grumble and moan while we hand over the £100 odd quid it'll no doubt soon drop to, but hand it over we will....

  • androidave #54 2 years ago

    This is way to expensive.. and I think its a case of two little too late as well, microsoft seems to be going after the casual market.. thing is, I think any casual gamers out there even remotely intrested in this type of thing will already have a Wii.. so why would they want to pay 250quid to do the same thing with a different console?? At least with the move you have a few games the less casual gamer might be intrested in, killzone3, littlebigplanet2, hevey rain.. I have an x360 and a ps3, I suspect a lot of other non casual gamers do too.. and I know which motion control system I'll be getting! :)

  • Lee_Morris #55 2 years ago

    The thing that a lot of people seem to forget is that the market MS are going after don't have a 360 so it won't be a cost of £130 for them, it will be £250. It will never sell in great numbers. It's simply just too expensive

  • jetboy75 #56 2 years ago

    This is way too expensive. But for all those out there talking about sony's move. To get the most out of it and play all the games you will have to pay a lot more. You will need at least one wands=50€ + camera 40€ and that nunchuck thing 30€.
    Adds up to 120€. And add another 50 bucks for every aditional player. Its not cheaper than kinect. And at least you will have multiplayer on the xbox without additional costs. But i think both will fail at that pricepoints! Lets see if the games can convince us.

  • PuppyFiddler #57 2 years ago

    I can see this being mentioned in the same sentence as the Virtual Gameboy in years to come.

  • makeamazing #58 2 years ago

    "We've done a number of pricing studies on a global scale across a whole variety of audience segments.

    I read that as "Pre orders are amazing in america based on the expected retail price, so we have decided lets go for that price then"....

    It seems that regardless of the price and what it can do, americans are lapping it up, so i dont think the price matters (or actually the quality of the games).
    Edited by 1 at 20/07/10 @ 18:55

  • DDevil #59 2 years ago

    Yeah I think I'll be passing on this one. £70 was about my limit I think.

  • patchbox360 #60 2 years ago

    hmm.. 3ds vs kinect

  • Chazmeister #61 2 years ago

    Well I did want one, but not at that price. When they've come down to about £80 then I'll buy. Oh and if it's any good of course.

  • sanctusmortis #62 2 years ago

    Just... no. MASSIVE ball drop, MS; £130 is a second hand Wii. It's way too much.

  • GamesConnoisseur #63 2 years ago

    Move for the WIN!

    Kinect a massive fail

    Unless MS gonna suprise us all by heavily advertising successfully and also the great unwashed mass managed to do another Wii lemming like rush to Kinect.

    As hardcore gamer who used X360 as the main console for the past 5 years, pretty annoyed with the pricing and shift of focus to waggle-fest, as a gamer I prefer Sony's exclusives line up from this year onwards.

    Come on dont drop the ball you been successfully holding in the run up to end of 2009.

  • evilrobot #64 2 years ago

    I obviously don't make pricing decisions without doing "my" research.....fuck off.

  • Jackface #65 2 years ago

    I bet most of you have the cheek to call Apples UK prices the 'iTard Apple Tax' - Kinect is $150 in the US.

  • Jackface #66 2 years ago

    What's the deal with the new 360 models having a 'Kinect ready!' sticker on them? Are 'old' models not capable of connecting to Kinect or something?

  • brseg #67 2 years ago

    Can't add much to whats already said. Higher price than the console… ouch. And by xmas Wii could be sub-99 quid, with some pretty good games on the horizon and a large back catalog. Kinect is doomed! (oh, and theres a small recession on, not that MS have noticed).
    Oh, and its a bit cheeky to say its bundled with a 'full price game'. Not exactly GTA5 we're talking about here.

  • sanctusmortis #68 2 years ago

    @Jackface - old machines need a power brick for it, the new 360 has a dedicated powered USB port.

  • Markitron #69 2 years ago

    they are but you need a separate power cable, the slim can power it by itself.

  • Sharzam #70 2 years ago

    Remember that Move is NOT £30 as people keep touting, you need multiple controllers multiple orb things and of course a camera for it all. For 4 people or even 2 people it starts to get close in price also remember going back to basics a wiimote is £30 another £20 for a nunchck not forgetting the motion+ and the balance board on top. Once have all that you basically have kinect.

    This isnt really that bad of a price as soon as you start adding up the extras that get on other consoles, if the game line up expands i will definatly be buying it but that is if, as iam not particulary intreast in most the titles.

  • DanMW #71 2 years ago

    Good luck with that, I ain't going anywhere near it at that price range.

  • Monkey_Puncher #72 2 years ago

    For £130 they can kiss my arse!

    I wouldn't have been interested for £80, but £130 is waaaaaay too expensive.

  • Tiiti #73 2 years ago

    I really want this but I fear I would be buying in to a dead product...

  • NotSoSlim #74 2 years ago

    All very well people saying Move works out more expensive but please remember the majority of Move games are two players at once just like Kinect so the prices are a match near enough

    No one knows What bundle Sony will do with hardware so you could see a Move bundle for £250 and if that the case they are both on a level playing field

  • Spunkweazle #75 2 years ago

    Will Kinect ship with "Waggle Cunt Shit" sounds interesting

  • actionfitz #76 2 years ago

    so... in the uk you can get an xbox arcade for less than the 'Kinect bundle'?

    howaboutyousuckmyballs!

    :)

  • Nozzinja #77 2 years ago

    Any interest in Kinect i had has just gone.. That is way too high a price for a peripheral device!

  • Miths #78 2 years ago

    Move isn't exactly dirt cheap either if you include the PS Eye and Navigation Controller. I pre-ordered a Move Starter Pack + Navigation Controller last week - total price 828 DKK ~ €111.
    And if I felt a need for a second Move controller (I'm holding back on that until I figure out how many games are actually likely to require or work better with two) it would be another 399 DKK ~ €53 on top of that.

  • I\'mListening #79 2 years ago

    Ridiculous!!!

  • chubster2010 #80 2 years ago

    I think MS have got this wrong. I'll be waiting for the inevitable price cut.

  • jag10 #81 2 years ago

    this should be cheaper than all the motion contollers available becasue there is no controller. it should be no higher than double the ps eye camera.

  • djhsecondnature #82 2 years ago

    @Sharzam

    Really this again? The difference is you can pick up Move for £30ish. It's the same argument people used with the Xbox 360. The start up price is low but it costs over time. It's very true that it will add up, but it doesn't have to add up and it's spread out over time. The start up cost is £30 (£40 for those without a camera) for Move compared to £130 for Kinect.

  • Jackface #83 2 years ago

    @drumbaby - "Anyone in the standing position (the only position suitable for using Kinect) has just fainted at that news."

    I get the joke, but I'm pretty sure I read an MS person saying that Kinect is designed to be used in the seated position.

  • dr_faulk #84 2 years ago

    Ladies and Gentlemen, that's it for this generation. We hope you enjoyed the show. Stick around for some genre recaps, but we'll be back to you soon with news about future productions.

  • djhsecondnature #85 2 years ago

    @Jackface

    Only if the game is programmed to recognise you seated. So unless they program it to do so, it won't.

  • Dop #86 2 years ago

    I'm sorry, I already HAVE a Wii...

    Seriously, I think this could be a big failure for Microsoft. Unless it shifts a significant number of units, companies aren't going to bother with the extra expense and time to add Kinect features. All you're going to see is cheap shovelware and absolute rubbish like far too much of the crap that's out there for the Wii.

    They'll be heavily discounted before long just to try and shift units.

  • PaulLFC #87 2 years ago

    *sadtrombone.mp3*

  • Machiavellian #88 2 years ago

    There are rumors that Kinect cost MS $150 to make so I can understand if they do not want to go into the red to deliver the device. Also with the high price MS can cut the price anytime they feel the need and get the people on the fence. Also with the holiday coming, you probably will see discounts from retailers that will make a bundle or standalone unit more appealing.

    If you really think about it, the price is probably right if the device cost 150 to make. You get the early adopters to get the device, then you price it with bundles and incentives during the holidays. You check how well you sell the device, what software moved with the device, then you might include a different bundle with the same price, include another internal game to help move the device or price it cheaper and do the above.

    I believe the strategy MS is going for here is that they do not have to sell Kinect like hot cakes at release but instead make it a slow burn, preventing them from having to go into the red to much and killing their profits. The 360 and it's services are profitable and it appears that MS want to keep it that way.

  • bad09 #89 2 years ago

    130 notes to jump about like a twat to arse shovelware? This will sell like hotcakes, the masses will lap it up and the death of gaming will grow stronger.

  • Geowolf #90 2 years ago

    So next gen xbox next year then, since this is certainly not gonna postpone the end of this gen anymore! MS might have just killed touch free control for good decade or more with this.

  • Emmit_Assassin #91 2 years ago

    £130? Fuck off. I was excited about this, not now. Fuck it, I'll replace the boys broken Wii for less than that. £130? Fucking hell, that's steep. Really? £130? They're pricing a family orientated product at PS3 owners? Coz they're the only ones that'll happily spend fuck loads on the latest tech. In my experience, people will happily buy soemthing like this if its cheap enough to have a go at, but this is priced more like an investment product. The Wii was so popluar and did so well because of its low price for great tech that people could have a go at. £250 for a 4gb Xbox and Kinect versus £170 for a Wii. Bearing in mind the average buyer wont fully understand what its all about.
    And I bet all the people they asked were rich twats who wouldn't even know how much a loaf of bread costs.

  • lockload #92 2 years ago

    This had to be £199 for the 360 arcade including kinect to have any chance of success

    £249.99 is nowhere near a price that is suitable for the intended market

    Although the ps3 price is just as stupid if not worse £229 + £99, add another £50 for two players
    Edited by 1 at 20/07/10 @ 19:19

  • super_monty #93 2 years ago

    £129.99 ha ha ha ha ha £120 for that shit, no chance. Microsoft must think we are fucking stupid.

  • DonnieDarko333 #94 2 years ago

    Wii's will be £99 come this Christmas.

  • Sar #95 2 years ago

    I was expecting maybe £80.

    £130? Feck aff.

  • lockload #96 2 years ago

    Everyone who wants a wii has one

  • brseg #97 2 years ago

    @Machiavellian - where did you read about the $150 manufacturing cost? If that is true, then it does put the price in perspective. But as it is, I cant see what makes it so costly to make, its a camera + ??, and even the processing is done in the xbox.

  • Machiavellian #98 2 years ago

    Everyone who wants a wii has one

    And thats where the misconception for your average forum punter is the caused of confusion. If everyone has a Wii already then I continue to wonder why it almost sells twice as much as the 360 and PS3 combined. MS needs to make Kinect look like the next high tech toy everyone can enjoy. Marketing will be the key and I believe MS will put the money behind it.

  • sentinal101 #99 2 years ago

    I think the price stings, however form a business point of view its highly likely enough people are sure to buy it at this price initially to warrant them having it at £129.99 and you can bet after the Christmas rush it will drop to around £100. It's overall success i think will come down to really how much fun the games are for it and how different the experience it is. Take dance central, your shape fitness evolved and child of Eden, if these manage to be as good and unique a they potentially look with kinect it is has a good chance to really to take off. Again though £129.99 ??? just how many people are really going to be able to afford that this Christmas with the economy the way it is. Its just fat cats at the top not realising what their customers want and what they can afford IMO.
    Edited by 1 at 20/07/10 @ 19:40

  • Centrifugal #100 2 years ago

    We'll see, Microsoft. Announce some non-casual games that utilise the regular gamepad with Kinect and I might buy it.

  • bodypopper #101 2 years ago

    The launch games will have to be stellar for this to make sense. And from what I've experienced so far the best is bowling which you can already play on the Wii just as entertainingly.
    Maybe they plan to rush out the Star Wars game?
    Edited by 1 at 20/07/10 @ 19:38

  • SilverNeon #102 2 years ago

    We are paying more than the Americans, try to convert the prices to dollars . $150 is £98 it's a big difference there thanks to VAT at 17.5% it's not as affordable nor is the Playstation Move if you get the camera bundle and a Navi and another controller for example.
    Everybody might aswell buy a Wii because it's cheaper, motion control is a bonus at the price it's going, rather than Microsoft and Sony thinking it will sell as though Motion Control makes the console more appealing despite the prices.
    Edited by 6 at 20/07/10 @ 20:14

  • kinky_mong #103 2 years ago

    WAAHAHAHAHA! This is a joke right? Oh this has tickled me! Enjoy your flop Microsoft, let me know when you want to return to appealing to your actual market rather than trying to pouch the Wii's dwindling userbase.

  • Machiavellian #104 2 years ago

    @brseg
    here is the rumored article I read
    [link url=http://nexus404.com/Bl og/2010/06/23/is-microsoft-losing-money-on-kinect-despite-15 0-microsoft-kinect-price-redmond-may-be-losing-on-every-kine ct-sold/
    ]http://ne xus404.com/Blog/2010/06/23/is-m...[/link]

  • MaoZedong #105 2 years ago

    Post deleted at 09:40:08 17-12-2011

  • Geowolf #106 2 years ago

    "We've done a number of pricing studies on a global scale across a whole variety of audience segments. We've found that when we talked to consumers about the different types of experiences you get with Kinect, the sensor with the full game at £129.99 does quite well. "

    They really should stop surveying the competition's fanboys cause sabotage is the only way to explain that figure.

  • JonFE #107 2 years ago

    I was secretly hoping that the price would be less than 100€ (a price point I could stomach to take, if the games were there), but at 150€ (plus the E3 revealed line-up) I won't go near it.

    Should they bundle it with Milo and Kate at some point, I might reconsider...

  • cyber_nicco #108 2 years ago

    I know this is going to be unpopular here, but I am likely to buy Kinect sometime after it becomes available. I spend money on shiny things. Sometimes it is hard for me to justify the purchase. For instance, I am about to purchase a class IV handheld laser because it seems "neat" to be able to set things on fire from a distance. I am impressed by the technology. On that front the laser (and Kinect) represent good value. Maybe Kinect answers a question no one is asking, but you have to admit that there's a lot of cutting edge (for consumer equipment) hardware in there.

    So, do I need it? Probably not. Will I enjoy it if I have it? Probably. Do I represent the average consumer? I have no idea.

  • Caimbeul #109 2 years ago

    "Kinect will cost £129.99"

    - And for that reason...I'm out.

  • Saxo #110 2 years ago

    well with that price i certainly wont be an early adopter. If it comes out and will show to be great then i might buy kinect. but as it looks now with that price ill skip it.

  • Trigg3rHippie #111 2 years ago

    As a hardcore gamer I look at Kinect (and now at the price as well) and all I see is some casual stuff for kids and their parents... what am I gonna use Kinect for? For browsing the dashboard? Thank you but no, thank you...

  • TONYgr #112 2 years ago

    That's a lot of money!

  • felastica #113 2 years ago

    £130 to have to get up to play games? No, thanks.

  • Nige #114 2 years ago

    130 quid! What in the wide wide world of sports....?

    Whichever collection of prats prices the accessories for the Xbox division should be taken out and disposed of humanely. Speaking as a previously quite enthusiastic Xboxer, this cynical horse shit has gone too far. I'd like to see someone finally get the wake up call and arse kicking that has long since eluded them.

    Hardly anyone was even convinced they wanted the poxy thing in the first place, and now you can royally whistle out of your rings. You will piss market share away to the competition with this idiocy. Mark pretty much everyone's words... you corporate rat cocks.

  • Dolly #115 2 years ago

    Anyone up for a Eurogamer sweepstake, to guess how long this thing stays at that price?

    I give it 3 months.

  • TruWari3r #116 2 years ago

    I wonder if that arcade model can be upgraded, I like a matte finish, would suit my tele.

  • smelly #117 2 years ago

    The eyetoy was only 40 quid with a game!

  • NotSoSlim #118 2 years ago

    @Tru

    Exactly my thinking!! I want it but by itself not with Kinect

  • BlinxHDD #119 2 years ago

    Barking mad.

  • Nighthawk_08 #120 2 years ago

    Makes me laugh all u idiots trying to justify kinects fuckin awful price by saying "move costs the same if you buy a multiplayer setup" and start rolling out numbers. I play games either online with friends, or on my own. Split screen sucks dick, and I don't play party games so I don't need no spare controller. So go come up with another reason to justify being finger fucked by Microsoft. Just stop trying to bring down move. Cause come next year when I'm shooting fuckers up on killzone 3, you tools will be jumping up and down in your living room on a "raft" or "stroking" your new kinectimal. Iv pre ordered move. I can't fuckin wait

  • Nighthawk_08 #121 2 years ago

    @ dolly. Half price by Christmas dude!

  • Dogzilla #122 2 years ago

    Where's a Dreamcast 2 when you need one?

    Games are shite nowadays.

  • Syrette #123 2 years ago

    Wow.

    Twice as much as I'd be willing to pay for it.

    Huge mistake. Absolutely huge.

  • jonbwfc #124 2 years ago

    Excuse me, could someone pick up my bacon sandwich? I appear to have dropped it.

  • Shigawire #125 2 years ago

    With some interesting games I might think about the price but not with the current lineup. Therefore I prefer wait and see

  • Devange #126 2 years ago

    ugh why does that xbox have a a black matte finish and the 250Gb is a fingerprint magnet c'mon Microsoft gimme that one with a 250Gb harddrive.

  • Corben_Dallas #127 2 years ago

    4GB WTF!!!!(>the bundle Deal), both my old HD's have multiple times bigger, Instafail. why would anyone buy a 4GB console??????
    Edited by 1 at 20/07/10 @ 23:34

  • Froggit #128 2 years ago

    There will be people who will pay that price - release at that price, let them buy it, then reduce the price later. OK
    In terms of attracting new (casual) customers, it seems the basic entry level set up will be cheaper than the PS3 + Move, as far as we know right now - especially if they push the party (more than one player, like) element. OK.
    Costing more than a Wii, less OK.
    In terms of attracting existing 360 customers / the hardcore, less OK.

    And to Dallas - the casuals will by a 4GB console. Anyone looking to upgrade but not fussed about having 250GB can buy it and plug their existing drive in.
    OK.

  • Zeburdee #129 2 years ago

    Microsoft UK rep:

    "We're about to unveil the price - you might want to sit down for this...
    ...err...actually, scratch that idea - it may not be technically possible."

  • Ryze #130 2 years ago

    Idiots. Do a Kinect / Dance Central bundle for £80 or less and I'm in.

    No chance at £129. I'll go for a Playstation Move wand instead.


    ...in fact - I can see myself just getting a second hand Wii over Kinect as things stand.

    Fools!
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/10 @ 00:29

  • spinoir #131 2 years ago

    so the kinect is actually only £90 (plus £40 for the game) and supports 2 players. Im in. The should let you pick which game you get with it though. I like the look of Adventures anyway so was planing to get it so.....awesome. I wish people would stop comparing the eyetoy with kinect.....eye toy is a single basic camera that requires a lollipop and nunchuck to do half of what kinect can.
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/10 @ 01:21

  • MrFlump #132 2 years ago

    At £69.99 I'd have snapped at the chance for one. At this price, I'll definitely not be pre-ordering now. Surely the developers and publishers must look at the price and think now that it's not going to penetrate the Market as much and the cost of developing for it is going to seem very very expensive.

    Think Microsoft have shot themselves in the foot with this one

  • up_the_ante #133 2 years ago

    Now that wi-fi is built in to the 360 MS need a new peripheral to vastly overcharge for. All hardcore gamers know Kinect is a waste of time and never had their wallets open anyway

  • Gaiduku #134 2 years ago

    I don't wanna bitch but...this is too much. Sure it comes with a game but this is verging on the price of a new console. My interest in kinect was already waning and has not officially completely wained. Ps3 may be technologically less impressive but in terms of its price point and its more obvious application to games it seems the best bet. Sure someone could do something amazing with Kinect but the first year will be filled with mediocre party games. If at some point something inventive comes out i may invest.... but not anytime soon.

  • Quixz #135 2 years ago

    I wonder if will get larger HDDs 500GB would be great.

  • timberwolf #136 2 years ago

    HA HA HA... F off.

  • Ashcroft #137 2 years ago

    Is Kinect able to recognise me sticking 2 fingers up at it, or do I need to stand up and put on a lighter coloured t-shirt first?

  • AphoticCosmos #138 2 years ago

    I'm really interested in Kinect, but that's too much money for me to pre-order one as a student pauper.

    Below £100 and then we're talking. I'll wait until the inevitably post-Christmas price drop and more games to come out. I can see it doing fairly well with a blitz marketing strategy in the run-up to Xmas, though.

  • alasdairm #139 2 years ago

    The only way I can rationalise buying it is to compare how much I paid for Steel Battalion back in the day

    Pretty sure it was around this amount and that was only for one game, and its currently sitting in the loft gathering dust

  • NotSoSlim #140 2 years ago

    Sales sales sales with some people.

    The facts are the standalone price is deluded as to play 2 player games on both consoles it cost exactly the same with Move bring cheaper if you don't want sub controllers.

    The 4gb bundle is great value as a whole but Sony have not announced a Move bundle for PAL territories!! It won't be 250 mind but could be close, also they could like MS do a smaller hard drive config for Move but that's speculation.

    MS had a chance to shift tons if these and imo this price hinders that some what

  • Spency #141 2 years ago

    I'm out.

  • Shikasama #142 2 years ago

    Wonder how many of these people complaining bout Kinects price have multiple Rockband/guitar hero accessories.

  • Andreas2402 #143 2 years ago

    Wonder if they'd have even bought it if is was much cheaper. I certainly wouldn't.
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/10 @ 09:56

  • FortysixterUK #144 2 years ago

    I think Kinect will be gone as a product within 2 years ( like the HD drive.)

    It's far too expensive.
    The release games are not that hot.
    Virtual connectivity just looks stupid ( note how you have to hold an imaginary steering wheel to drive in a car game for example )
    IF...this was being retailed at say, £59.99 with a game then it would have a slight chance of getting a foot hold....as it is...I think it's a no hoper. This was a brave attempt to get into the casual market, but frankly, MS should concentrate on the hardcore market more.

    Sell an addon that lets you put extra ram into the Xbox ( 4gb maybe ?), and patch every game to utilise said memory. ( £49.99)
    Sell a bigger HD. 1 TB, and have all your xbox games installed. ( 129.99)

    And carry on with the excellent software release catalogue. Job done. To hell with this casual shite, leave it to Ninty.

  • geeza2020 #145 2 years ago

    errr no, just no.

  • Darren #146 2 years ago

    I wonder if Microsoft will market the new 4 GB Xbox 360 S as being "whisper quiet" when it comes without an HDD so people will have to play the games from the discs (unless they buy a separate HDD)? My Xbox 360 S is definitely NOT "whisper quiet" when playing games from disc (not that I expect it to be when they're spinning at 12X)! ;)

  • Eurolamer #147 2 years ago

    £129.99? 'Kin ell...

  • telboy007 #148 2 years ago

    "I wonder if Microsoft will market the new 4 GB Xbox 360 S as being "whisper quiet" when it comes without an HDD so people will have to play the games from the discs (unless they buy a separate HDD)? My Xbox 360 S is definitely NOT "whisper quiet" when playing games from disc (not that I expect it to be when they're spinning at 12X)! ;)"

    I can't even tell when the disc is spinning in mine, whisper quiet at all times for me.

  • floatstarpx #149 2 years ago

    I think when you have to attempt to soften the blow of the price with statements such as "we obviously don't make pricing decisions without doing our research", then something is wrong.
    MS: "It's £130"
    everyone: "how much!??!? that's quite a bit isn't it!?"
    MS: "well, uh, obviously, we did research. y'know. on prices 'n stuff. price research."
    maybe the same research they did with the original xbox launch day price???

  • ronuds #150 2 years ago

    Too much, but I guess not THAT much more than I expected it to be. Anyone who thought this would be 50 quid were living in la la land.

    I'll still wait for some appealing reason to buy one.

  • gorf #151 2 years ago

    Microsoft confirms connect price: "Yes it really is that expensive" responded a spokesman from redmond

  • Rack #152 2 years ago

    I for one am complaining about Kinect's price and I for one will be spending way way more on Rock Band 3. It's about value for money, Rock Band has it, Kinect is a pile of crap.

  • Darren #153 2 years ago

    @telboy007 - Well you must be one of the lucky ones then because I've read lots of posts on several forums from people who can definitely hear the disc spinning in the Xbox 360 S when it's running a game off it. From what I gather from reading several professional reviews is that this is completely normal because of the 12X speed the disc spins at. It's not the jet engine roar of my old Xbox 360 fortunately but it's far from quiet.

  • d00dl #154 2 years ago

    £130 RRP but my bet is that this'll be £100 by christmas and a £250/£275 slim 250Gb bundle. Arcade will be £200/£230....This is all wishful thinking in my head (that all of you happen to live in)

  • Les #155 2 years ago

    Saw this demonstrated at Macy's the other day. Really nothing more than a huge eyetoy (really, the unit is huge). Didn't really work when the kids tried it out. Especially navigating menus was difficult for them. Only the girl that demonstrated the unit managed to steer the pointer and select the big buttons (by hovering the pointer over them for a couple of seconds).

    The game they let you play (cartoon-like racing game) was very lenient with regards to the movement players made.

  • up_the_ante #156 2 years ago

    I just held my arms out in the driving position like in the Kinect advert and they got tired after 20 seconds. Kinect is going to be a complete disaster for games. Not to mention the ambiguity of control. Each time your car goes off the tack you'll be asking yourself - was that my fault or kinect not being precise enough, or the complete lack of something solid and tangible to interact with
    Edited by 1 at 21/07/10 @ 15:08

  • cyber_nicco #157 2 years ago

    20 seconds? That's pathetic...

  • FortysixterUK #158 2 years ago


    geeza2020 21/07/10 @ 10:44

    errr no, just no.
    ----------------------

    And that comment means what?
    A concise criticism of points made ?
    Proof that you can spell the word No?
    I am so glad the art of conversation and reasoned response is not dead.

  • mAc062 #159 2 years ago

    $150 != €150