MGS4 had "minimal" effect on PS3 sales News

don't be silly, the DS never looks grown up.

Christ give a little time it's not even been out a week!!!!

Good - about time people started voting with their wallets. No backwards compatability, no rumble controller and an exhorbitant UK pricetag = No sale.

let's face it, the gas crisis has a deep effect on luxury items.
And MGS is no Halo, not even close.

Average game = average hardware sales, do the math.

that's because in the UK they didn't do a frickin' hardware bundle whereas everywhere else they did - hence no PS3 sales

Sony are stupid.

But worldwide had massive effect on PS3 sales, according to vgchartz.com

I imagine if they want to sell more of their luxury goods priced blu-ray players in the current economic climate, they will have to do more than offer crappy bundles at stupid prices and half decent software.

the ps3 has been outselling the xbox every week since december or something crazy like that. it was Japan were the machine was dying, but supposedly metal gear has now made for the ps3 jump from 10k to 80k which should put it ahead of the psp.

Well, they clearly thought a bundle in the UK was not required, as UK consumers have a history of buying their shit regardless of quality/price etc.

"ut worldwide had massive effect on PS3 sales, according to vgchartz.com"
ahahah! vgchartz! the site that fails predictions by an average of 150% each month! the site that said GTA 4 had massive impact on 360 and PS3 hardware.... yeah right, real trustworthy...

So a massive new game doesn't shift consoles, but re-releasing an old console in wanky poser Ferrari red and the world's most hideous shade of green creates a boost? British gamers are retarded.

Well good, now they can stop treating us like s***.

On a side note, the xbox 360 installed base in the UK has now passed the total sales of the original xbox in the UK in 2 Years and Half compared to four years for the xbox.

"the ps3 has been outselling the xbox every week since december or something crazy like that. "
that might be true in Continental Europe, not in US nor UK (two biggest markets in the world)...; but even so, selling 20k than a system that doesn't sell much isn't realy an Achievement. If you said "PS3 is selling more than Wii since December..." that would unlock one.

I can imagine that MGS4 did make a difference in the US and Japan where they had the 80GB + Dualshock 3 and the LE Gunmetal Grey bundles respectively, but I'm actually pleased that Europe didn't fall for Sony's nonsense again. The sooner Sony move away from the repetitive "40GB PS3 + Sixaxis + a game" bundles, the better.

We need a Dualshock 3 out of the box and (preferably) the return of PS2 backwards compatibility if they're going to persuade me to buy one.

Yeah vgchartz predictions are usually wild, but the final sales figures are pretty accurate. PS3 sales in US jumped 180% last week. From 40K to 120K, so I'd say that is quite a leap.

in percentage terms the number might impress.... but then you have Wii sales figures, and one says: meh...

What's the Wii got to do with PS3 sales? I just want to see a decent installed base of Playstations so developers have a reason to release games on it. Nothing more.

"And MGS is no Halo, not even close."

8/10 begs to differ ;)

Also, remember that you cant relate the DS sales to PS3, one is purchased by toddlers and the elderly while the other is aimed more at professionals.

ahhh someone mentioned Halo. Don't fall for it guys.

No surprise here. MGS4, great as it undoubtedly is, is no system seller. You can't expect the final game in a heavily story-driven series to sell consoles to people who aren't already fans of the series, and MGS3 sales in the UK were pitiful.

It should have raised sales by 8% to match the score.

/bait

360 last place LOL.

@miiiguel
Mentioning Halo here is ridiculous, I have both a 360 and PS3, own both the Halo and MGS series.
Halo 3 hasn't got shit on MGS4. MGS outperforms Halo in every area. The story of MGS is so deep and enthralling, a lot more so than shooting the shit out of a bunch of aliens, that said, the Halo story hasn't been good since the original.

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Not really a surprise to me, most people who wanted MGS4 knew it'd be released on PS3 so probably already had a PS3. I certainly wouldn't have bought a PS3 if I didn't have one already.

"MGS outperforms Halo in every area"~
er... not sales wise, and that was my point.

why do people make a big fuss about backwards compatibility ?

First the 8/10 given by the appointed MGS hater.

And now this "Oh my, didn't sell as much as MGS2..."

Trying to prove something or please someone, EG?

let's face it, the gas crisis has a deep effect on luxury items.
And MGS is no Halo, not even close.

I'm glad it's not. It's much, much better.

"why do people make a big fuss about backwards compatibility ?"
maybe because it was anounced like a big plus over the competition. Remember the "full backwards compatible!" "no software emulation like shity 360!", and... stuff ?

"I'm glad it's not. It's much, much better."
You haven't played Halo, you read about it on the covers of the magazines ;)

And MGS is no Halo, not even close.

Isn't that a good thing?

why do people make a big fuss about backwards compatibility?

It's just incredibly annoying; if you owned a PS2 with a library of games then it's a hassle making space for both consoles and having both wired up especially with connections being taken up by other consoles and media devices.

"And MGS is no Halo, not even close.

Isn't that a good thing?"

For you, yes, it seems so. For Konami/Sony, not so sure...

The reviews of MGS4 point to a game you'll love if your a big fan of the series.

I remember playing Metal Gear Acid on the PSP (my first foray into the series through ignorance of the brand more than anything) and being expected to understand what the hell was going on with little explanation.

Having seen the trailers for MGS4 I would be even more confused and the reviews confirmed for me I would be wasting my time on this game.

A game that relies too heavily on its back story of some 10 years of games is really killing off a lot of potential audience share. Some gamers today were only 3-4 when this started, why should they care? I'm a big fan of the C&C series but I could totally understand newcomers to the series really not caring about the third incarnations of the titles, easily dismissing them as standard RTS with a cheesy as hell storyline (and the C-rate actors).

So this appears to be only a key platform title for the already converted. We have so few on the PS3 (released) that I think we get excited about anything at the moment that doesn't stutter/look like shit.

MSG4 is too hardcore to impact sales,just look at review comments.
Casual people don't go nuts over some number, only hardcore loonies do.If MGS4 ever gets ported to 360,it will be the end of the world for them.

That's... a bit surprising. I thought MGS4 was one of the "Big Hopes" for PS3?

" was second overall on the platform to only to Grand Theft Auto IV."

Who said education was a waste of time?

So.... is every single PS3 story on EG to be punctuated with a little negativity, then followed by a "Nintendo sells shit loads of..." thrown in for good measure?

The fact is that MGS4 is selling extremely well and fans of the series are loving every minute of it, whether or not Nintendo are selling a new fucking coloured DS.

Jeez...

MGS4 is a very hardcore game, for very hardcore people. Stands to reason that those guys (and gals) already have their PS3s. I've got a PS3, but no interest in MGS games.

Bad news for Sony, in the UK at least.

You haven't played Halo, you read about it on the covers of the magazines ;)

I DID play it, on a friend's place, and Halo 3 on a shop. You see, unlike you, I have no pathological issues regarding "touching the other console".

Gameplay is VERY smooth, and the lock-on is perfect, but face it, as fun as it may be, it is quite shallow in comparison to any MGS game.

About BC: I don't understand the fuss from people who refuse to come near a PS3. Also, it is very nice indeed. Glad I bought my gear before the BC was taken out...

firstly, i see little point in people mentioning the wii

the wii doesn't sell games. The wii boys will jump in, etc, but lets be real, millions of non gamers bought a wii, and they'll play wii fit or wii sports, but they don't invest in traditional games.

Moving on, mgs4, is a gamers game, it was never going to appeal to the non gaming mass public. NEVER

So who was the target audience? Gamers who hadn't yet bought a ps3. How big do you think that market is? Its tiny, fucking tiny compared to the total buying public. If that is your only likely target demographic, a 7% rise is pretty impressive.

But anyone suddenly expected mgs4 to put the ps3 in the stratosphere outside of japan was dreaming.

i do have a library of ps2 games (probably about 30-40 of them) but I've never felt the need to play any of them in the last 3 years, hence wondering about the big fuss about backwards compatibility - surely you buy a ps3 to play ps3 games / bluray on it not 5 year old games? It sounds like one of those nice to have features - but how often would you actually use it?

"I DID play it, on a friend's place, and Halo 3 on a shop. You see, unlike you, I have no pathological issues regarding "touching the other console".

Oh, c'mon man, lighten up, k? MGS is the best thing ever, Halo is so shitty, 360 is for Xbots and lesser people like americans, and shit. 3rd place and some more negativity...
Can we still be friends? (let everybody know... kool, kool thing...)

"MGS4 is for the hardcore gamer, for the fans, for Hideo, etc"


What is this nonsense about? Try playing the fucking game. I played MGS1 many many moons ago to the point I can't really remember much about it. I put MGS4 in the machine and it's been fuckin' amazin. I haven't played MGS2 or 3 but I'm enjoying 4. You don't have to be a big fan to enjoy the game, really, you don't.

I've also blasted through Halo3 on my 360 and I can vouch for one thing. Master Chief ain't fit to lick the boots of Snake. It's not what 360 like to hear but it's true. So it hasn't sold as much. Big fuckin' yay, doesn't mean the game is shit.

Bet EG loved posting that news item.

-- and even though they are very different, Halo 3 is utter shit compared to MGS4. I can't even be bothered to complete Halo 3, became so bored of it by the final level. Hell, Ninja Gaiden 2 is better than Halo 3.

Nintendogs is better than Halo. Halo is the worst game ever. I hate it for selling that much, but it was mainly the brainless americans who did, we are better people, so it's ok.

Not sure what Halo has to do with MGS4 news. It's good that MGS4 sold well but, also good that it didn't shift consoles. Having played and finished it. I can't see anyone but a hardcore fan actually being pleased they got the game. Without spoiling anything, you can leave it to Kojima to ensure that actually Snake could make a comeback (you need to be watching after the end credits roll for the first time to understand that statement).

Only die hard fanboys would think that everyone should but MGS4. The truth is that MGS3 was actually a better game. There was no twist half way though the game (maybe they are thinking of the raiden twist from the previous game or something) dispite what the reviews said. I'm not even sure where they got the idea there was some twist from. If they played the game they'd have known there isn't one. You jump locations but, the gameplay never changes from the moment you pick the game up to the very end.

Lols of the Patriots.

Well it's probably because, in spite of it looking spectacular, it's the fourth game in a series. So naturally people would be interested in playing the old games. Only they can't, as you can't buy a backwards compatible PS3 in Europe and the notion of paying up for a second console to get all the backstory would be off-putting to some.