Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots Comments by Oli Welsh
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SlackMaster
22/01/08 @ 07:55
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I think being able to skip cutscenes is a much needed addition to the series, and the flashback button is an interesting concept. It's just a shame the story ended up being pap in most of the games.
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konstantinos
22/01/08 @ 08:00
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Such a unique game series... despite its commercial success, for me it remains a deeply personal experience each time...
harkening back to the emotional layers of melancholic summer afternoons in an empty big city... or something like that... awaiting this one with baited breath... like a Stanley Kubrick/Nicolas Roeg spy/war film saga, written by Billy Wilder, Oliver Stone & Quentin Tarantino... cheers...
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konstantinos
22/01/08 @ 08:17
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and I would add a bit of Samuel Fuller/Seijun Suzuki somewhere in there too... if they ever aspired to do a James Bond film...
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"Btw people who haven't played MGS 3 you owe it to yourself to play MGS 3: Subsistence in preparation for this. It starts a bit slow but keep with it, you'll be rewarded awesomely."
Agreed Big Boss is an awesome character, I actually prefer him to Snake. I hated MGS2 though - load of old bollocks.
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TheDudesRug
22/01/08 @ 08:27
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The only reason I want a PS3; it makes me genuinely sad to know I'll likely never play this installment in the fantastic MGS series :(
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JohnnyWashnGo
22/01/08 @ 08:29
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This game will rock I am sure.
Although, in all honesty, I can never be arsed to complete any of them - just too hard. But I do enjoy the bits I actually play :) Also, what has happened to the photo captions? I don't seem to get any these days :( |
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[eSc]Demon
22/01/08 @ 08:41
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I found MGS3 almost unplayable with its flawed camera-design. Even though they fixed it in Subsistence, I refuse to pay again for the same game.
In my opinion the first Playstation MGS is one of the greatest games ever, but the whole series is quite overrated. |
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mechamonkey
22/01/08 @ 09:19
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MGS 2 LOL..
I gave up on MGS 2 after one cutscene and bad suprise too many MG3 was terrible to start with and there were more easily accessible games to hand so I never carried on MGS portable was simply horrific yet MGS is still one of my all time favourite games but I think I'll be passing this by. |
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Universal Hamster
22/01/08 @ 09:20
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What happens at the end is that it turns out it was all the monkey's sugar-induced dream, and that he is really Snake four hundred years in the future, and must fight GIGA METAL GEAR!
Its gonna be so sweet... |
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[quote]mgs 1 was genius, fresh and original. Since then it has disappeared up its own arse and forgotten that it is a videogame. If I want to watch a film I will go to the cinema or hire a dvd.[/quote]
Yeah I agree. I really enjoyed the first game. Then came MGS 2... Haven't played an MGS game since playing half an hour of 2 and putting the pad down in disgust |
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asphaltcowboy
22/01/08 @ 10:43
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Hmmm, never been a fan (Splinter Cell is far superior in my mind), but who knows, perhaps this is the one to sway me? The fact it has a flashback button is probably a curse and a blessing, particularly for the new player!
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@wired
You're in the minority mate. Most of us buy games as interactive entertainment i.e. the cut scene needs to be in engine and not take you out of the action in any way. At worse they should last a minute tops. Metal gear 2 had such convoluted cuts that most people probably simply abandoned it and moved on to something that actually allowed them to join in on the action! |
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asphaltcowboy
22/01/08 @ 11:03
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@headbog: What are you talking about? I thought it was all quite restrained in here...
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dirigiblebill
22/01/08 @ 11:03
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My love for this will depend on whether it permits the sort of non-linear lunacy occasionally possible in MGS3. The divided-city premise suggests as much, though it looks like the action is still, at heart, only really freeform within rigidly defined level bounds. Kojima doesn't seem to be able to get his head round open-ended play areas.
/hopes for Metal Dynasty Gear Solid Warriors |
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How come its so common to hate on MGS2 these days? The game has an average of 96% on Metacritic, I loved it, and so did everyone I knew who played it at the time.
It seems the more time passes since playing it, the more distorted people's memories are becoming and suddenly everyone believes it was crap... I think its a myth thats being reinforced by the fact the series has become synonymous with Playstation and there's so many 360 owners convincing themselves and eachother that it's not that good really and they don't need to play it. |
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steoc4: I certainly didn't love it. I timed the amount of time I spent playing the game to 4 hours of gameplay and 10 hours of codecs and cutscenes.
I enjoyed the time I spent playing. The rest, not so much. The cutscenes were alright, the codecs just went on for far too long. Especially for an action game.
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there's so many 360 owners convincing themselves and eachother that it's not that good really and they don't need to play it.
It's true. MGS4 is the only game that 360 owners might be interested in. I don't think anyone would shell out for a new console for just one game. So we are hoping that it is less than par. Needless to say the sales will be poor nonetheless. |
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@penhalion,
Stats please. I didn't find MGS2's cutscenes to be any different than the one MGS1 had, but maybe it is just me that I like my games to have stories rather than just pointlessly shooting aliens or unlocking achievements to show off some gamer related stats. Or perhaps all the hate MGS2 is still getting are because of how insecure some gamers truly are... |
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dirigiblebill
22/01/08 @ 11:18
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It seems the more time passes since playing it, the more distorted people's memories are becoming and suddenly everyone believes it was crap.
People also tend to forget that Kojima's plots/cutscenes are actually, you know, pretty damn watchable- thoroughly weird and overblown, but consistently imaginative.
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Kenshin001
22/01/08 @ 11:28
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I've already pre-ordered this. Could turn out crap I guess but from what I've heard and seen it looks like it could be one of the definitive games of 2008. Not to mention the closing chapter in an epic game franchise. Can't wait.
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JediMasterMalik
22/01/08 @ 11:49
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First I've heard of targetting issues from all I've read, hope they fix it by release. Either way I'll be getting this straight away, I love MGS, and this sounds like it could be the best one yet.
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farticusmaximus
22/01/08 @ 12:16
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"Bottom line, MGS2 is a very classy piece of work. You may not like it, but it surely demands respect."
A boring, cutscene-heavy, awkward-to-control game demands, and gets, no respect from me. As previously mentioned, MGS is marmite, it's not mainstream and it never will be. Reports so far seem to indicate that MGS4 has fallen into the same old trap. Naff gameplay smothered in cutscenes that everyone wants to (and are now allowed to) skip. |
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