Mass Effect Comments by Kristan Reed
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speedofthepuma
19/11/07 @ 15:15
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"My point is however immersive the story/music and so on are; if there is texture pop-in and tearing, it spoils what good the story is doing, it takes me out of the game."
Then we can agree to disagree. I suspend my disbelief actively in almost all media to try and avoid such problems and I manage quite well with those 2 issues. |
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Ashcrapper
19/11/07 @ 15:17
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framerate is complete rubbish. wish these cunts would just FUCK OFF sending out utter shite that they know doesnt run smoothly. not like its a pc with a million different configurations is it?
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Krudster, sorry about the english, but try to understand.
If you're reviewing an RPG, based on action standards don't you think the review may come out as a bad review? As you people often say, you're gamers, so, in a role of a gamer who's buying this, don't you think you should review it for what the people are buying it for? I.e. the RPG stuff. It's obvious no game is an exclusive genre anymore, but reviewing this as an action game with RPG elements, had to turn out wrong. Just my opinion though. PS: Not that it is a bad review. I consider EG to be the best videogame's site, and with the best writers/reviewers worldwide, it just missed the point, imho.
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SeesThroughAll
19/11/07 @ 15:25
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Oh dear, the "mine is bigger than yours" brigade is already started.
About the texture pop-ins. Does the game properly cache from the HDD when one is available, or did you test the game as if played from a Core 360? |
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This site seems to have been invaded by some complete and utter morons of late (I blame the COD4 beta)- Since when was 8 a bad score?
It's not that it's a bad score it's just that everyone was expecting ME to be up there with Halo and Bioshock in getting unanimous praise from every publication. ""Ok, so it's like: In "speed run-mode" 8/10 In "proper-mode" 9/10"" Wow...just... Wow. |
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thedaveeyres
19/11/07 @ 15:34
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Moan moan moan...
Thank the lord you lot haven't found your way onto the forums ;P |
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BrokenSymmetry
19/11/07 @ 15:39
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krudster: 'Oblivion, by a country mile.'
Stranded87: 'Ah good, that almost makes me more certain i'll like Mass Effect, either that or i'm going to hate it. To me Oblivion was pretty much the antithesis of what i love about RPG's.' My thoughts exactly. |
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I'm not going to moan about a review because an 8 is indeed a good score etc.
It's just these two quotes raised an eyebrow slightly: "Mass Effect is no more an RPG than something like Devil May Cry." "Exploration isn't much of a key factor in the game, therefore it wasn't mentioned." Those can't be accurate surely? |
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""mass effect is epic, I could care less about load times, frame rate, story gameplay is what counts in a great rpg and you deducted marks like some chav gamers, go back to halo3""
Obviously story and gameplay are the main factors. If they were crap the game would be like a 3 or something but load times and tearing are important. Imagine watching a film (which may have a great story and great actors) but if the screen was tearing in half and the film had long pauses in between scenes it would not be so good. You just want to carry on with the game and the story. And in a game which is heavily story based graphics are important, tearing is a dissapointment. |
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i was ready to disagree with ACs score here, but then i woke up one night saying "thank god you came when you did, otherwise they would have made off with me" and "altair, it seems some of my students still don't know what it is to use a blade", and thought, "u know, maybe 7 isnt so far off."
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groovychainsaw
19/11/07 @ 16:04
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Why oh why do bioware insist on jamming in rubbish combat in all their console RPGs? All the best bits in KoToR 1+2 were in the story, jade empire sorely weakened their RPG credentials, and now they turn a promising sci-fi rpg into a.n.other shooter. I'm still getting it, in the vain hope that the plot and dialogue will carry me through the game. I wish they didn't pander to the teenage gears of war brigade however....
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Ashcrapper
19/11/07 @ 16:05
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what is wrong with some of you lot? the game is a bit of a let down. stop taking it as a personal insult.
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Eighthours
19/11/07 @ 16:07
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I wonder if there will be a sneaky auto-update on launch day to fix some of the glitches. There have been in a few other 360 titles recently.
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General_Zod
19/11/07 @ 16:09
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Whats also brilliant is most of the people defending Mass Effect's "honour" probably have not even played it.
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From the review, this game reminds me of Jade Empire, a game that I profoundly loved from the story viewpoint, but which was just meh from the gameplay viewpoint. I think Bioware mad a big mistake when decided to move on from the system that they used in KOTOR (real time resolution of action chosen basically pausing the game) in favour of pure realtime games... but, that said, I will still get this because I'm a Sci-Fi lover, and I'm sure I'll love the story in this one.
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Wow jstar, it's a "fact" is it? Can I borrow your crystal ball?
We don't knock off a point for 'hype'. I've not been the victim of any hype on this game, and never even saw it at preview stage. I gave it a score that I'll stand by. If you disagree when you play it, that's your call. I also know Tom doesn't take any notice of hype either. We're often too busy reviewing games coming out now to even worry about the next crop. |
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Way to take the comment out of context!
DMC is nothing like ME, and I wouldn't suggest it was. I'm just saying ME is an action game with RPG elements. DMC is a fighting game with an RPG experience system. If you look at the core gameplay of Mass Effect's missions, it's about 95% action, with a small, albeit significant XP system underlying it. Outside of the missions, it's more like an adventure game, again, bearing very little resemblance to what people associate with RPGs. RPG is a meaningless term if we lazily refer to Mass Effect as an RPG. It's evidently a hybrid action adventure RPG. Remember, eyes are your friends.
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On the off-chance that a Eurogamer editor might actually trawl through these comments (unlikely, I know), I'd like to make a request:
When allocating reviews, please try to give games to people who know something about their genre. At the very least, please try to avoid giving a sci-fi game to a reviewer who makes it clear in the first few paras that he thinks sci-fi is a bit naff and uncool. I love sci-fi, and am old enough to have a real soft-spot for the sci-fi action movies of the 80s that were a particular inspiration for (and influence on) Mass Effect. You'll forgive me, then, if the opinions of someone who has to 'tolerate' the sci-fi elements in the game are of little use and even less interest to me. Sheesh. |
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@peteb - I think Assassins Creed could have been a 10, if they had sorted out just a few of the little problems (like the repetitive dialog, limited number of investigations and overall repetitiveness of the game) but what they have put out is still amazing and I am it enjoying thouroughly :)
@General_Zod - Tis what I was thinking too... surely all these people haven't played it a great deal (or at all) yet... but I guess you never know. I will still be buying this as the RPG selection on the 360 is still very limited and I need my fix! (Two Worlds did not do it for me). Tbh, I hope that the review is wrong or biased... Eurogamer have recently given scores that I completely disagreed with to a number of games, so I am hoping this could still be a 10/10 :) Just maybe? *fingers crossed* |
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BigBadB, I am the editor. Your point is that we should give it to a sci-fi nut. Why? So they'd give it a better score? I review games regardless of themes, whether it's gangster themes, Wild West, medieval, whatever. A good story is a good story regardless of theme, and I enjoyed the story immensely.
The gameplay, however, isn't amazing. End of story. |
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@Krudster: Did you ensure the line "Once you really get to grips with what Mass Effect wants from you, it all slots into place brilliantly" was at the beginning of Page 3 intentionally? It paces the review quite well, Pages 1-2 build the feeling of negativity and then Page 3, relieves the tension. Well for some anyway, judging by the comments ;-)
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