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Mark Rein backs Blu-ray News
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Epic Games boss Mark Rein has expressed his appreciation for the extra storage space Blu-ray discs offer over standard DVDs, GamesIndustry.biz is reporting.
He was speaking about upcoming PS3 and Xbox 360 shooter Unreal Tournament 3 at the Edinburgh Interactive Festival, and warned that "we may have fewer maps on the 360 version ... Blu-ray has definitely given us a lot of legroom".
He went on to add: "If you think down the road - well maybe the next UT beyond this one - on Blu-ray we might fill the whole damn disc with all the cool stuff the mod makers make."
Unreal Tournament 3 will be console exclusive to PS3 this year, with the 360 version to follow in 2008. Sony's system will also let you play using a keyboard and mouse.
Epic's other big game to date was the 360-exclusive Gears of War, which sold bucket loads and was really rather a lot of fun.
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Psychotext
15/08/07 @ 12:29
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Don't care... PC version or nothing thanks. Pointless playing a twitch FPS like UT on a console because they've slowed it down.
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WickedDeeJ
15/08/07 @ 12:46
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"I have a 360, but i agree about the Blu Ray Disc. Why can't Microsoft just admit they got it a bit wrong and chuck a HD-DVD drive in or something to give developers more "leg" room?"
Well given that they just spent an obscene amount of money on the warranty I don't think they'd have the excess cash to pull it off. And come on; everyone knows what would happen if they started shipping 360s tomorrow with built-in HD-DVD drives and told the various development studios they could just use that. Everyone from here to New Delhi with an "old" Xbox 360 would be demanding that MS either replace their current console or give them the HD-DVD drive for free. And if MS refused, I think it might leave them open to lawsuits in several countries. |
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Bill_Gates_Bitch
15/08/07 @ 12:46
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Mark Rein and Phil H are in a gay relationship. That's where these announcements are coming from.
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The Bodybuilder
15/08/07 @ 12:48
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>"and was really rather a lot of fun."
FLLLLLLLLLAAAAAMMMMMMMEEEEEEE bait. |
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homerramone
15/08/07 @ 12:48
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"Blu-ray has definitely given us a lot of legroom".
Legroom to be lazy if you ask me !!! |
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Psychotext
15/08/07 @ 12:50
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@Rash - I think blu-ray can be a good thing. I also happen to think that Rein is being his usual self and my point still stands on playing the slowed down version of UT on PS3 or 360... even with a keyboard it's still going to be wrong.
Besides, if he was going to do this he could easily make it so you could download the extra maps. |
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Whatever, trevor.
if blu ray is soooo fucking great, why aren't there any good games for it yet that take advantage of the storage space. Also, why do Blu Ray based games takes FOREVER to load? If Oblivion / BioShock / Mass Effect et al can fit on a single DVD then i can't see why UT3 can't.
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BadBoyBonner
15/08/07 @ 13:12
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Never mind rattling on about Blu-ray
Lets have some answers about why the frame rate in half the UE3 engine games is shite. Looks at Fatal Inertia and shakes head. Puts on Quantum Redshift through emulation - and ponders what could have been. |
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insane_cobra
15/08/07 @ 13:25
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Epic can afford trumpeting about Blu-ray. Like Rein said, they might fill up the whole disc with content for the next version, but they don't have to actually produce all that stuff, they'll just buy out content their users create and slap it on the disc. Most developers don't have that luxury.
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presbyterrorion
15/08/07 @ 13:25
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"Err, Mark, just put it on two DVDs."
This man is a f***** genius! |
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The extra storage capacity of Blu-ray is clearly a good thing but Xbox 360 developers will have to work around the limitations of DVD, it's as simple as that. Anyone that uses the laziness excuse against BD is just being plain ignorant though because there's only so much that can be done with compression without compromising the game the developer wants to make. Whether the 360's limited DVD format means more multi-disc games, like Blue Dragon, or more in the way of downloadable content remains to be seen but it's something we Xbox 360 owners are going to have to accept.
The PS3's exclusive games will obviously make use of BD so I'm just glad that I own both it and the 360 so I can experience their best games regardless of what format they're on or how many discs they ship on. |
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It might ship with fewer maps, but I'm sure 360 owners will be able to purchase them over XBox Live.
Are you sure you want to purchase those maps... Err, Mark, just put it on two DVDs. /plays online. "you have entered a custom game that requires maps 10-20 please put in disc 2". Isn't Unreal Tournament just a multiplayer frag fest with "single player" basically just maps with bots in them, i don't know how a multi-disc UTIII would be viable tbh.
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jack_klugman
15/08/07 @ 13:34
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Single Player: Disc 1.
Multiplayer: Disc 2. Problem solved. Cheque in the post please. |
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krudster - "Err, Mark, just put it on two DVDs."
I presume you're joking... right? Unreal Tournament is primarily a multiplayer game with a single player mode that uses many of the same maps so it would not be practical to split the game across two discs... unless you like swapping DVDs in order to access specific maps! Two DVDs are not a problem for PC owners though because the game has to be installed to a hard drive first so at most you only need the boot disc to actually play it. |
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@Hangman
Forever to load?? Seriously? Then why are the load times quicker on Oblivion. My guess is that you are talking from the place that you should be sitting on. This news is nothing new though, we all know that extra storage space is better as we all wouldn't be striving to find ways of storing more. I can imagine when CD were first used in computing.... 'We don't need that, 1.4 megs is more than enough on my floppy disk'
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jack_klugman
15/08/07 @ 13:38
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I was under the impression UT3 was unlike previous iterations in that it had a fully fleshed out single player campaign.
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dr_shambles
15/08/07 @ 13:43
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@BadBoyBonner
Completely agree. Fatal Intertia demo is atrocious, with really bad pop-up and sluggish frame rate. Stranglehold looks and plays great but the frame rate is choppy and isn't as smooth as it should be.
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jack_klugman - "I was under the impression UT3 was unlike previous iterations in that it had a fully fleshed out single player campaign."
That's right but Unreal Tournament isn't a story-based game so I'd imagine any single player game will follow the structure of the previous one but be more "fleshed out" and rewarding. I'd also expect it to use the same maps as the multiplayer just like the earlier versions. I'm sure if UT3 was possible on multiple discs then the devs would have made use of it... they aren't stupid, you know! LOL |
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BadBoyBonner - "Never mind rattling on about Blu-ray
Lets have some answers about why the frame rate in half the UE3 engine games is shite." I'd say it's down to lazy/poor developers myself, otherwise all UE3 games would have framerate issues and that's certainly not the case as proven by Rainbow Six Vegas, Stranglehold, Gears of War and BioShock. |
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............Bioshock however plays stunning, looks stunning, will come on 1 dvd and uses the same UE3 engine. Has 20 hours of gameplay including cutscenes and hours of scripted audio!!!
Must really hurt Rein that 2k Games Boston (Irrational) can make a better game than epic..with epic's own f****** engine. |
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@ Arcadiian
Dont worry, Im loving my 360. And I'll love my Ps3 equally when I get round to buying one (probably next year in time for GT5). I was just being sarcasting about these types of discussions. EG baits the trolls with "news" items like this and the resulting disccusions quickly descends to mindless fanboism. |
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Apostle - "PS3 kicks 360's ass. That's what Rein is saying."
Only as far as storage formats go but that's obvious... I don't see him praising the machine's graphics or CPU. So far the PS3 has proven a bit problematic when it comes to the Unreal Engine 3 and that's why so many of its games that use the engine have been delayed. Those that are out now are generally considered inferior to the 360 versions, i.e. Rainbow Six Vegas. ;) |
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Must really hurt Rein that 2k Games Boston (Irrational) can make a better game than epic..with epic's own f****** engine.
Making a game has nothing to do with the engine that's down with every individual dev house, however if you said Irrational can make a better looking game than Epic that post would make so much more sense. |
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The blu ray is a is a lazy argument
Have the core game and core game maps one DVD1 Have Maps that you can optionionally store to the 360's HDD on DVD2or3 etc Get those bigger 120gbHDD from MS would be good too And it would be nice is MS could patch/update the 360's sys so that we could store game saves or pehaps just game content on usb hdds or ickle 2gb/4gb flash drives or bigger flash drives |
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