Manhunt 2 gets US go ahead News

Green blood saves the day!

Wonder what they had to cut out?
The testical removal bit maybe?

meh, it was all just a publicity stunt.

Ah well - ony a matter of time before its out here too!

And it'll shoot straight to the top of the charts on the back of all this!

Hooray for Rockstar! :S

I'm assuming they'll resubmit it to the BBFC now.

Worth importing PSP version?!

Wii would be the best one though, immersion at slicing and dicing, what Jack Thompson gonna do though? I cant imagine him keeping quiet so there ll be shitstorm.

Diffcult over here what with stabbing and shooting by Yobs taking headlines.

This might sound off-topic here, but I'd be interested to hear what games Jack Thompson played as a kid? Did he play cowboys and indians? Cops and Robbers? Commandos!?

Those - although make believe - all have violent undertones to them. So it would be OK for that sort of thing, but playing games which aren't even physical things, is wrong?

Or maybe he just sat and played with dolls all day!

Manhunt is shit. Now it will sell more. Job done.

uh oh.

"Banned Manhunt Released In UK - European Union To Blame".

I love tabloid headlines.

Manhunt was a poor game at the end of the day, the stealth mechanics were just dull.

Im interested in knowing what had to be cut to give this rating as well.

Wonder if it'll now play like a Dario Argento film thats being aired on BBC1 at 8pm on a sunday

'I cant imagine him keeping quiet so there ll be shitstorm.'

I'm not sure Jack Thompson is capable of creating a shitstorm any more.

I'd be very interested to read about what they've changed, like for like.

Wwwwwwwooohooooo! Get in!

‘Manhunt’ was not shit, which is why the subject matter is irrelevant, Manhunt 1 was one of the hardest games to complete and most satisfying to complete at that. I’m glad the ban has been lifted (in US at least!) for the sake of allowing games of this nature and quality to not have an impact on our civil rights.

Well done to Rockstar for fighting and look forward to playing Manhunt 2.

"This might sound off-topic here, but I'd be interested to hear what games Jack Thompson played as a kid? Did he play cowboys and indians? Cops and Robbers? Commandos!?"

He didnt play games as a child, nobody liked him as they all thought he was a pretentious smug know it all. Most break times he would find himself hung by a wedgie on a coat peg, or with head constantly flushed down the toilet. His parents were too poor to buy him any games to play, his mum spent all her money on crack and would beat him at night when his dad wouldnt come home, and the reason his dad didnt come home was due to him visiting hotels with cheap hookers. Was tough growing up for him, with all the other kids laughing and making fun of him, at night he would just cry himself to sleep. As a teenager things went from bad to worse, girls just didnt want to go anywhere near him and questioned his sexuality. Most break times he would still spend his time suspended by a wedgie or with head down the toilet. His mum turned to prostitution and was arrested after a raid on the hotel, luck was with her though as turned out (unknown to his mum and dad) that it was with his dad she got caught so they couldnt press charges.

As a social outcast he decided to plot his revenge, due to having the balls of a small field mouse though he was too chicken to go out and get a gun so instead he locked himself in a library studying law. Now several years later he is getting his revenge and still acting a complete cock

That could be another Jack Thompson though, unsure which one you are on about

Why do people keep banging on about civil rights?

Its a fucking game! Its not infringing your right to vote or anything!

Manhunt rocked.. .had an excellent tense atmosphere and a really good combat system (Rockstar should have ported the combat system to GTA!).

I'm hope this is resubmitted in Ireland and that the didn't change too much.

now for the uk...

lol @ Bumhug360

Brilliant mate - mate me laugh a lot there!

+1

I'll definitely be picking this one up. The original works as an amped up game of hide & seek, and i thought it created a great sense of genuine tension. Fingers crossed the EU release remains uncensored, after the awful hackjob the ESRB did on The Punisher.

They have to release it here now, otherwise it'll just be imported.

Jack Thompson can't say anything anymore about Take2 games, can he?

"Im interested in knowing what had to be cut to give this rating as well. "

Thats exactly why this game will sell bucket loads. hats off to the PR folks i say.

@Crazyhorse174

You obviously know nothing about civil rights as Rockstar pleaded their case on that very basis being the right to purchase an art form and future concerns for the industry! How anything to do with voting got into the topic I don’t know!

Do your history homework lad!

@Bumhug360

Thanks for that, most informative, I hope he writes a biography!

Well, I never!

I thought this game was buried.

@SEVQA

My point was, that voting is a civil liberty - being able to buy a game, in my opinion, isn't.

And the only reason Rockstar argued that it was a civil liberty to be able to buy it, was because they were clutching at straws and trying to recoup some of the money they will lose if the game doesn't get released.

So that, my friend, is why voting was mentioned! :D

Awaiting AO-Rated Director's Cut for the PC...Liked the first, btw:-)

@crazyhorse174

Are you British? I'm not sure what Civil Rights are guarenteed under British Common Law, but the US Constituion outlines a whole bunch of them. Only one of which is the right to vote.

The first line of the Preable of the Declaration of Independence is: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness."

Equality, Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness is what we found most important to mention in our preable...nothing about voting. And The US Constitution has 27 Amendments...only 2 are about the right to vote and none of those are in the Bill of Rights (the first 10 Amendments, written by the founding fathers).

The first first Amendment in the Bill of Rights?
"Freedom of religion, speech, press, and peaceable assembly as well as the right to petition the government."

And it is under freedom of speech that anti-censorship laws fall...and it is under freedom of speech that Rockstar argues. You so blithely say people don't have a civil right to buy a game...but the US Constitution, its Declaration of Independence, and numerous Judges who have overturned video game legislation would disagree. And that is the easy slam dunk legal argument for them to make...because it is so fundamental to US culture. There is a very long history of artists/producers making the case that they have civil right to produce art under the protection of freedom of speech. And it is something that the US tends to take seriously.

And while I don't know the particulars and details of Great Britains legal code, I can't imagine it is all that different...I mean, all the US founding fathers were British and were very much influenced by British Common Law.

Hopefully it'll still appear in Europe uncut.

I wouldn't mind getting it from The Netherlands.

Surely they can release it in Holland without any edits?

@bumhug360

he will most likely try to sue for that libellous/slanderous statement.

(he wont win though because its all true)

>Manhunt is shit. Now it will sell more. Job done.

Thats funny.. every review i've read has given it 9/10.

still, im happy .. if it IS that good, i get another good game to play on my wii this holiday

>>Manhunt is shit. Now it will sell more. Job done.

>Thats funny.. every review i've read has given it 9/10.

jonsaan is entitled to their opinion though, did you not read trooper6's post? lol

I think this is great news even if the content has had to be watered down slightly. Only problem is that I dont have a Wii so will miss out on that version, oh well, it gives me an excuse to dust off the PS2 :)

>jonsaan is entitled to their opinion though

Erm.. but apart from the reviewers, no-one has played this game yet.. so his opinion is based upon nothing (except for the first game, which as far as i've read bares little or no relation apart from the name)

There is justice in the world. :)

Like there was ever any doubt it would get re-submitted and re-rated.

@ trooper6

Just gonna go way off-topic here...


You mean the US Constitution? The one that says all men are created equal? Unless, of course, you happen to be black, in which case you only count as two-thirds of a man, for voting and census purposes. What about their civil rights, because as far as I'm aware, that particular tidbit has never been repealed.

And the whole "right to bear arms" bit; funny how the really important part - the fact that it is ONLY when the nation is in a state of 'legal' war that that is legal - seems to have been written out, without any Amendment changes. It just seems to have been removed silently to give trigger-happy Americans the excuse to keep on polishing their handguns lovingly.

My point is that the US Constitution is so full of holes, has been so messed with and was only ever designed in the first place by rich, white landowners to benefit rich, white landowners, that I don't think it can ever be held up as a shining example of how a country should run its affairs.

@ bioreit

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. You are spewing stupidity all over the internet.

Fact: The 14th and 15th amendments of the US Constitution were passed in the 1800s (after the Civil War) to ensure that people of all races and creeds were guaranteed the same rights as everybody. When you say "as far as I'm aware, that particular tidbit has never been repealed." you make it clear that you are aware of squat.

Fact: The 2nd amendment to the Constitution says ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about only being in effect during war. NOTHING. It says that armed civilians are a necessity in order to ensure the security of a free state, thus "the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed."

As to your last point, your opinion that the US Constitution was written by the rich for the rich is laughable. The Constitution was written to ensure the rights of all citizens and constrain the power of government. It has been in effect for over 200 years and is widely considered to be very successful and a very good model for a country.

So basically, you are ignorant, and your ignorance fuels your dumb opinions. Please, for the sake of the world, educate yourself before spouting your ideas.

Hurry, hurry, I feel the need to chop people up with my Wii knife!!!????
....sorry

Aah I love the controversy. Really, games are the source of all evil. I just bought Resident Evil 4, and I already want to shoot poor farmers with a shotgun. Too bad I don't live in a country where I can't get one for like 200 euro's. And don't blame the shotgun. Or me by the way. Blame the game. Yeah...

'OMGZ I THOUGHT GUN BANS WOULD STOP SHOOTINGS???'

You do know how to count, right?

> Erm.. but apart from the reviewers, no-one has played this game yet.. so his opinion is based upon nothing (except for the first game, which as far as i've read bares little or no relation apart from the name)

ERM.... thats exactly what he was talking about, thats why he said "Manhunt" and not "Manhunt 2."

@Doomboom
"ERM.... thats exactly what he was talking about, thats why he said "Manhunt" and not "Manhunt 2.""


right.. i quote:

"Manhunt is shit. Now it will sell more. Job done."


So by your definition, he's talking about the first one. So therefor by your reckoning the first one is going to sell more because of this decision?

So I laugh at that statement too.

@smelly

Ok, calm down lad, my first post wasn’t intended to be taken so seriously anyway. Certainly not to the point where I want to begin arguing over what was said, how it was said etc.

The way I see it he was on about Manhunt 1 when he said "Manhunt is shit" and Manhunt 2 when he said "Now it will sell more," the 'it' in the sentence referring to the topic of the thread and not the topic of his first sentence.

It isn’t written too well (as is the nature of most internet discussion forums) and it is open to interpretation. My interpretation this time differing from your own.

So please laugh away as much as you want at any of the statements I have made, I didn't want to start an argument in the first place anyway.

And now I must get back to Bioshock....

>I didn't want to start an argument in the first place anyway.

But yet you did! :-)

Now the UK ...

+1 to what JSPOOLE said.. but without all the unnecessary aggressiveness (probably caused by playing too many violent games)

@JSPOOLE: It's actually far higher per capita... just thought I'd clear that up for you.

Plus, most of them are just as likely to be burglars or criminals getting what they deserve, and Im not one of those nancy boys whos gonna cry over them.

There were 29,569 gun deaths in the US in 2004 (source: CDC National Center for Health Statistics mortality report online, 2007) of which only 311 were self defense. A gun in the house is therefore statistically more likely to kill a family member by accident than to be used to repel an intruder. It's also more likely to be used by an intruder to kill the occupants, than for the occupants to use it against an intruder.

But, hey, facts should never get in the way of sociopathic vigilante fantasies.

No shit man- they are about ten times our size for god's sake

Only about 5 times, actually, by population (60 mil UK, 300 mil US). People often seem to overestimate how much bigger America seems.

And we've had two people shot to death in two weeks. If you multiply that number by the difference in pupulation, it'll still be an order of magnitude lower than the US. In this country, fatal shootings are still unusual enough that they make the national news!

What does gun crime and differences between the UK and the US have to do with the heinous decision to release such a shitty game upon a nation?

I feel kind of sorry for the US in this instance . . . you guys have to put up with such a turd of a game as Manhunt 2 - soiling the shelves of your local games store that could easily be used to house a more worthy title, say, Bioshock?