MadWorld Comments by Simon Parkin

I wonder if this will fly in Japan.

I wish I knew why EG has such hot-tempered readers... Ah well, not going to add more fuel to the flame.

Always wondered that myself, never experienced anything like it on the web elsewhere. Pretty amusing (if not a little frustrating) to say the least. I'm guessing when a lot of these peeps grow up they will be more than a little embarrassed by the things they used to spend time spouting off about (I found some of my usenet posts from the late 90s a while back, it was cringeworthy). The forums seem a little more 'grown up', been loving the HOTD:Overkill thread over in the Wii forum, plenty of interesting conversation/tips/banter.

Sounds a lot of fun to me. Not over-long like Okami, and not over-hard like Viewtiful Joe.

Hey guys, been lurking until now.

There's one thing about the review that I don't get - the comments about the controls - on p1 they're instinctual (read: flowing and natural), on p2 they're fuzzy.

All in all, it reads like an 8, and that aside, a 7 is still "a shitload of fun if you like the genre), see Umbrella Chronicles.

Looks like it might not even get a release in Japan o_O

The review does seem to turn quite suddenly on page 2, mentioning things that were a positive on P1 and spinning them into a negative for P2.

Maybe it will become clear when we start playing it, but I personally tend to ignore comments on the control mechanics as I seem to 'get' them even if others don't.

Some silly design flaws listed in that review.

One for the sales, I reckon.

"With No More Heroes at less than a tenner everywhere,"

Where?!

Plenty of copies going for £7.99 in my local Gamestation. Just waiting for a gap in my gaming timescale, which doesn't seem to be coming up any time soon. I know, for that price I should just buy it anyway - I paid more than £7.99 for Street Fighter II on the Spectrum, and that was serious gash.

So to progress on the later more difficult levels you have to count on the Wiimote being an accurate input device...

Oh dear, oh dear oh dear oh dear....

Yo Dawg!

Yo Dawg I herd you like clicks, so I put a meme in your article so you can revenue while you revenue.

This sounds like a 9 or 10 game for me.

The review stinks of someone with little patience getting annoyed with a game that has the gall to be challenging in this day and age.

This review seems unbalanced. About three quarters is spent jizzing over it, then the final bit crams in all the complaints they had with the game in little detail and too few words.

I was kinda expecting a 7 tbh, after the initial novelty I thought the fun might wear off.

Why do people keep mentionning IGN reviews on here btw? They ALWAYS get the score wrong.

Another 7/10 Wii game, woo-fucking-hoo.

Remember 7/10 is 2 marks above above average. Which means "good"

Hmm, I'm not sure this review is entirely accurate. It sounds like the old God Hand issue to me; lazy people can't learn to play properly and so complain that it's too hard, while dedicated gamers get unlimited enjoyment because the game tests their skill and is thrilling to play. If there are balance and unfair aspects, like Ninja Gaiden II, then fair enough... but I'll have to get more information on the game before I can tell if it cheats or not.

I reckon this game has all the traits to put it in the same category as the likes of God Hand and No More Heroes, which is no bad thing.

I SWEAR the xbox fangirls sit with their finger on refresh every day waiting for a wii review so they can post "hahaha this game ONLY got a 7.. that means the wii sux.. i'm selling mine"

or other such nonsense...

For some reason i picture them masturbating furiously while typing that too...

"Did anyone else get the subtitle reference?"

Did anyone NOT get the subtitle reference?

Baldrick, you wouldn't see a subtle reference if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord singing 'Subtle references Are Here Again!

Tough choice whether to buy this, I got a feeling it's another NMHeroes which I didn't enjoy all that much.

Proabably wait til it's in the pound stretcher bargain bins.

I've never owned an Xbox, or a PS3 smelly. I do masturbate regularly, you got that right.

Baldrick, you wouldn't see a subtle reference if it painted itself purple and danced naked on top of a harpsichord singing 'Subtle references Are Here Again!

Did anyone get that subtle reference?

@mcmothercruncher: Did i mention you specifically? Unless you are just sitting there with your finger on refresh waiting for a wii review?

The review seemed v positive until the end, when it suddenly got all miserable and slapped a 7 on it.

killjoys.

@ milkyjoe1984;

The problem is, taking the piss is a great excuse but if there's no substance to the joke then it means absolutely nothing. MadWorld could have played on our fascinations with violence and reality TV, but instead of having an underlying sense of irony it's merely a setup for killing lots of zombies and bosses in as gruesome and spectacular a fashion as possible. THAT is what makes it juvenile, it's like sniggering at someone who is called "Hugh Jazz" or smirking at a dirty joke. Logically, not funny, but you do it anyway because you cave into that inner child.

Which is kind of a shame, because Watchmen did it just fine (the movie, that is). Movies tend to miss that due to time constraints. MadWorld had the potential, and most people say that it didn't really make that irony stick for very long. It's not the end of the world, but it's a shame that something so ripe and clever and actually quite good looking and fun couldn't just eek out that last extra bit and be a perfect cynical reflection of gamers and the world today.

Or I'm looking too deep. Ahem.

Or I'm looking too deep. Ahem.

Or maybe you aren't, the review hints at it...

But writer Yasumi Matsuno (best known for his games Final Fantasy Tactics and Vagrant Story) builds upon this vanilla premise in interesting ways and it's not long before the story becomes a compelling proposition.

Again it comes down to the review being inconsistent, the first page discusses intuitive controls, interesting plot and all manner of loveliness, the second page gets bogged down in how 'hard' the game is and seems to dismiss all the good stuff from page 1.

Review sounds whiny. I've been expecting easier, or "dumbed down", or "more forgiving" God Hand (which beats me hard sometimes, but never hurts my pride). Seems like MadWorld is not all that easy. Seems like it is a game after all. Even gamers pampered by RE4-like, family entertainment dressed up in clothes of a "violent game" need more challenge sometimes to make them feel alive (I mean "alive as gamers"). I'm not even talking about "gamer's ethos" bullshit, nor about games being "better back in the days". I'm talking about fun. Some games need to be hard to be fun. Game about beating hoodlums up needs to be hard. In such a game enemies shouldn't be all talk and nasty look, pitiful creatures. They should hurt player character pretty badly to make you want hurt them in exchange. Even the player character's inability to block, despite not making sense in terms of, well, common sense, makes sense in terms of videogame logic if the player character can, say, stomp onto knocked down enemy instead.

Honest review,ahaha
Such thing doesn't exist anymore,probably never did...

So the reassons game scored a 7 are the juvenille comentetors comments-the upscaling difficulty-the classic beat em up genre.....That is all the "hardcore" you 've been waiting for.....So a 7?!?! I just want to play the game and see if that is true, or just another elite gamer-reviewer crap we see all this years for core Wii games.

>or just another elite gamer-reviewer crap we see all this years for core Wii games.

havent you heard its cool to be an anti-wii elite gamer type?

Cool?! Like "cool" in 6th grade......Enjoy the game guys and see for your selfs what is "cool" or not. MadWorld is a great game. Platinum Games is a outstanding game developer studio.

smelly:
I SWEAR the xbox fangirls sit with their finger on refresh every day waiting for a wii review so they can post "hahaha this game ONLY got a 7.. that means the wii sux.. i'm selling mine"

or other such nonsense...

For some reason i picture them masturbating furiously while typing that too...


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It's like you make up your own comments to read or something. I never understand it. Lose some of your hatred of xbox 360/ xbox 360 owners (despite you apparently being one yourself, just so you can state that you don't like certain games on it).
& please. stop with the masturbating comments. I dread to think how many of your 7000+ posts comment on masturbating. I would google, but I'm not too sure I want to find whatever results come up with the word search of 'smelly' 'masturbate'.

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As for the game, I was never too sure if I'd like it, but was intrigued/interested in it anyway. I had rented No More Heroes, but didn't really like it/ gave up after a couple of hours. May rent this game as I somehow think/hope I'd like it more.

7 is good guys. Relax. Plus if you pop over at metacritic you'll see that this is one of the lowest scores the games got - the average is in fact pretty high. Maybe the review is right and there are some design flaws, but the game has a unique look and some interesting ideas, and for that I think it deserves a buy.

I hear the PAL version is 576i50 only, and with sucky black bars. If that's true, I'm so not buying it (at least not the PAL version). Someone needs to learn how to properly localize game for PAL regions. Why not just leave the 480i option to choose? Would it have hurt their sales or something?

@tardo: Oh you're soooooooo right! It's NOT the 360 owners who come into every wii thread going "harhahar my machine is better than yours" then leave?

But i forget the rules of the playground when i post on forums full of kids like this.. you're only allowed to make fun of something if everyone else is doing so.. if you try to show those sad bastards for who they are - then you're in the minority.. and that's not allowed to happen is it?

sheesh

Back to the game.. this is the only "average" review of this game i've read so far.. I cant decide if i want it or not.. anyone give it the thumbs up or down for me? I havent played a new game in aggeeees.

Great game, but the PAL version is 50hz only. WHAT THE FUCK.

>Great game, but the PAL version is 50hz only. WHAT THE FUCK.

See i dont get this complaint... 90% of 360 games run at 30hz (or lower) and no-one seems to complain...

"See i dont get this complaint... 90% of 360 games run at 30hz (or lower) and no-one seems to complain"

Er..I think you're talking about the frame rate as apposed to refresh rate.
Madworld Wii is a throwback to the SNES/N64 days.....no longer giving us the option to display the games like the US at a 60hz refreshrate.....instead we're stuck with a basic PAL 50HZ refresh rate, a slowed down version of the game..and great big black borders at the top and bottom of the screen (something that's a rarity on the cheapest Wii shovelware).

PAL Madworld is the only Wii game I own that doesn't have the 60Hz option. There's no excuse for it these days. Sega/Platinum should be ashamed.

this game runs at 25hz by smellylogic

instead we're stuck with a basic PAL 50HZ refresh rate, a slowed down version of the game..and great big black borders at the top and bottom of the screen


LOL Ummmmm, it seems you are assuming 50hz automatically means those things just "happen"? Hahaha. Developers rarely slow games down for PAL anymore, bub. Pretty much all games are programmed with time-based instead of frame-based movement these days. Same for the borders, at least on Nintendo systems those have been steadily gotten rid of ever since the N64 days.

Now I haven't played the PAL version of this game, but know that if they were retarded enough to just slow the game down and leave the black borders in (which I frankly doubt), it's the developer that screwed up, it's not some kind of thing that magically and unavoidably occurs when a game runs at 50hz.

Nikanoru: well, half there. The game runs at normal speed (the FFX days are over, thankfully) but there are some pretty ugly black borders on all sides. Now seriously, why couldn't they just leave the 60hz option? It's not like they had any work to do: they only needed to leave it exactly the same as it was in the NTSC version.

The only borders you ever get from a straight conversion are top and bottom (different number of scanlines between regions), so I don't know how you're getting them on all sides. Are you playing 4:3 on a widescreen tv?

I don't have the game myself. That's what people are saying on my forum (by the way, they also say the framerate is clunkier. I guess the game originally ran at 30fps, otherwise it wouldn't be noticeable).

Side bars I've seen a lot of times. They seem to be a common effect on the Wii - Nintendo games excluded - even on 480p. Don't appear on all TV set either, although on mine they surely do. In some games (esp. Umbrella Chronicles) they are quite big. Well, I normally don't care about those. But when I also get FFX-like black bars, it'd mean seeing less than usual. Or, even less.

Still, that's not my problem here. The problem would be the squashed look and choppy framerate. I'm so going to buy import. And i hope Platinum Games gets the message: all Clover titles had 60hz, so there's no excuse at all for this one.