Levine talks scrapped Irrational game
The zombie shooter that never made it.
Irrational Games has recalled how in 2005 the developer was pitching zombies and not Big Daddies to publishers.
Its proposed game, Division 9, was aiming for a Dawn of the Dead-style atmosphere where you took down a neverending swarm of zombies from behind barricades. Base-building, resource-collecting and co-op were all part of the plan.
"We were finishing SWAT 4, and Vivendi actually wanted us to do SWAT 5," creative director Ken Levine told Game Informer. "This is one of those points where the money would have been really nice, and they were really good to work with, but I looked around and thought, 'What else have we got to say about this game?'
"We didn't really have anything else to add to what we did [with SWAT 4]. But I wanted the money really badly."
Art director Nate Wells and lead artist Shawn Robertson came up with the idea of a game called The Infected, which they took to Levine and evolved into Zombie SWAT.
"Vivendi was like, 'What's your pitch for SWAT 5?' 'Zombie SWAT,'" said Robertson. "Crickets."
Levine added: "I remember going around pitching it and the person would be, 'Zombies? Who wants to play a zombie game?" Apparently Irrational was told that zombies wouldn't be big in 2005.
Levine said that after putting together a short demo for Vivendi, the project got the green light. Fortunately for the world, 2K Games stepped in and bought Irrational and the rest, as they say, is BioShock.
"I think we would have been very successful with [Division 9]. It would have come out around the same time as BioShock, maybe a little sooner," offered Levine.
The Game Informer piece has the full demo video of Division 9.
The Irrational Games title was reinstated earlier this week after the studio was renamed 2K Boston by owner 2K Games. Irrational launched a new website to coincide with the news, promising podcasts and a refreshed blog to keep us reading.
What Irrational Games is up to, however, is still under wraps, although everyone thinks it's a new X-Com.
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I love it when the "suits" get it wrong, wrong, wrong...
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And that trailer for Division 9 was awesome - very Left4Dead but a lot less frantic and more measured!
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What someone needs to do is remake the original X-Com / UFO Defence with current gen graphics and controls. End of. No dicking about.
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Thats what I thought, proper zombies, not the running zombies. The level looked very SWAT4, especially the garage bit!
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Updated graphics yes but there is no need to modify the controls, they were just fine.
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Lots of slow zombies == scary.
Making them run == not zombies.
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Running zombies = more twitch gaming. Im sure they could do both though
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I would say Dead Rising nailed the slow zombies, yet still a sense of danger really well.
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I don't want to get bogged down in the whole "its not a real zombie" argument. Despite the obvious futility of discussing whether one version of a ficticious entity is more authentic then another, there are actually lots of zombie variants in folk lore. George Romero and co invented the slow shambling zombie really, there were plenty of quicker variants in folklore before he came along.
Besides, my main concern is the fun level. Dead Rising did indeed get a lot of fun out of the slower zombie type, but part of the reason for that I think is tha majority of combat was melee rather than ranged. When ranged combat did occur it was a duck shoot, and the fun came from the sheer joy of blasting zombies. When it felt dangerous it was because you were toe to toe with the buggers.
Its a matter of taste really, I'm not saying that this game would be bad. Irrational have a good record, so chances are it would still be a strong title. I just find the "tidal wave of undead" moments in L4D the most thrilling. Sometimes its not even twich gaming so much as pointing a shotgun at a doorway and hoping you kill everything before the reload
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Not tried Killing Floor. Will look it up.
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That video looked cool anyhow, it lacks the token gore but otherwise a bit like Killing Floor.
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Further adding weight to the argument that L4D doesn't have any zombies in it, as the infected aren't dead.
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"Zombie = animated dead"
Not all zombies are dead.
[link url=http://en.wikiped ia.org/wiki/Zombie
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"typically as a reanimated dead or a mindless human being"
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[link url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Serpent_and_ the_Rainbow_%28film%29
]http://en .wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Serpent...[/link]
Tagline "don't bury me, I'm not dead".
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Edit: Offender banned. Huzzah, etc.
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Can you reference the spam poster in your comment please. To anyone who has ignored said poster (as I have) it looks like your ban suggestion is aimed at me...
possibly earning me the negative karma point, or perhaps that is just fropm someone who has strong feelings about zombies that aren't dead
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I agree, a zombie doesn't have to be dead, but if they are possessed by some strange virus stripping them of their humanity and intellect, they are not far from it
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MOAR FREEDOM FORCE PLZ!
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"but if they are possessed by some strange virus stripping them of their humanity and intellect"
Sounds like any high street on a Saturday night. Alcohol is the new zombie virus
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One laughs (sadly) if tat is the case -but there again they DID get Bioshock, so i guess they have to pay for tat originality (well, fairly original) with some grind...