Left 4 Dead Comments by Kieron Gillen

god dam it!!

in one way im glad it seems like a great game but on the other i just cant afford all of these games, its goint o be a great christmas.

resistance 2, left 4 dead, gears 2, LBP, GHWT, rockband 2, and it continues......

need a better job that pays more and gives me more spare time,,, any ideas?

@farticusmaximus
"@smelly

"This to me is just EG giving yet another fps game a high score.. "

Are you really that stupid, or did you not read the review or ANY of the comments?"

Smelly doesn't like FPS games, anyone who doesn't agree with him is obviously wrong and liking one FPS will obviously mean that you only like FPS games and so therefore any point you ever make about anything is invalid.

This is how it has to be in order for it all to fit in with his preconceived notion of the world, so this is how it is. Because the alternative, that he might be wrong or people might have genuine reasons for liking this, is too difficult to grasp.

@sneetch

Ah yes, it is all clear now. I shall purge myself of these irrational likings of multiple genres, through the ritual of self-flaggelation with a Wiimote and Nunchuk, as I want to be a total asshole with incredibly limited perceptive range, just like Smelly.

Plays like a 6/10, overated POS.

I expect being flamed but who cares, tried the demo and it plays like a generic fps with zombies.

Graphics suck, gameplay is straight from HL2 and outdated (same makers of this), lame clichéd characters, boring level design.

Couldnt stand the demo.

This to me is just EG giving yet another fps game a high score..

I think you're wrong.

Actually he's right, what's original about this?

It`s a generic fps with co-op, big fucking deal, the enemies suck, AI sucks, it's been done before (and better) and the sad thing is, it would probably end up being GOTY.

Tell me, what's so good about this? I'm intrigued, afterall its had rave reviews.

I'd probably rather play Resident Evil:Outbreak f1&2 than this POS, even they're not that good.

Actually he's right, what's original about this?

Original is the AI Director.

In the end, though, it's about the experience and the fun. And this game delivers.

IF, IF you play with people. Single player is rather boring.

It's even better if you have friends and you play it through with them the first time.

In the end, if you don't get it, what's the problem?

Go play your Resident Evil:Outbreak f1&2 and accept that some people really like this game, even with its somewhat dated visuals and simplistic idea.

It`s a generic fps with co-op, big fucking deal, the enemies suck, AI sucks, it's been done before (and better) and the sad thing is, it would probably end up being GOTY.

@wingzerosys

But if it was on PS3 too, it wouldn't be a POS, right?

Uh, can you please tell all of us the FPS co-op console games that are like L4D (and better)?

So cos I think this is a generic POS I'm labelled as a PS3 fanboy? Lol.

I actually own all 3 current gen systems, no fanboyism about it, I just think it sucks and its overated, that's my opinion, I gave the demo ago after hearing people's praises and I Rofl'd after playing it.

It may be good for co-op but it doesn't change the fact that its shit, I'm into different genres, mainly action adventures, FPS, RPG's and a lot of original IP's, this ain't original, its all been done before, better infact.

Actually I believe the reviewers (IGN, Eurogamer) have been paid to give it a high score, if they give sequels or "seen it all before" games shit scores, why not this? I'd say this played like a cross between Half Life and Serious Sam but with zombies.

I'll stick to CoD:WaW's zombie mode, more fun.

No cos I don't play co-op or take any notice, Halo 3 has co-op though, that's better than this.

Defend this POS all you like, I'm (nor you) not gonna change my mind, it looks/plays like a Half Life 2 mod.

So cos I think this is a generic POS I'm labelled as a PS3 fanboy? Lol.

I actually own all 3 current gen systems, no fanboyism about it, I just think it sucks and its overated, that's my opinion, I gave the demo ago after hearing people's praises and I Rofl'd after playing it.

Actually I believe the reviewers (IGN, Eurogamer) have been paid to give it a high score, if they give sequels or "seen it all before" games shit scores, why not this?

@wingzerosys

Why do people think that if they say they own all 3 consoles that means they aren't a fanboy and if you own 1 console that means you are a fanboy? It's about what you say, not what you own.

Also, when you believe that game sites like EG get paid to give games high scores just because YOU don't like that game, it shows your immaturity and fanboyism. As you said......it's your opinion.....opposed to theirs. And EG doesn't degrade you because of your biased opinion as you are doing to them.

Fanboy remark again, lol.

What does being a fanboy have to do with this game anyway? Just because I don't like this game doesn't make me one, it's funny how I'm supposed to hate this game because it's not on the PS3, for your information I would've gotten the 360 version, nice try though.

So I'm immature because I said the reviewers got paid off for this review, why else would they give it a 9? They overated Fable II (wait can't say that, II'll be labelled a fanboy again), they overated Halo 3, GTA IV, all better than Left 4 Shit (Dead).

I've said why it's shit, you go back to masterbating over this precious game, well you can't give reasons why it's good can you.

Great game this, well worth the nine and not worth a ten, so EG nailed it quite well.

The power is in playing with friends. If you're a little bit social you've got at least 3 of them in your steam network, which is just enough to play this Brilliant horror-shooter.

SIngle-player is also quite good, if you play it for the first time.

@wingzero: "you go back to masterbating over this precious game, well you can't give reasons why it's good can you."

That's what makes you immature, not all that other stuff you said :P

@wingzerosys
"It may be good for co-op but it doesn't change the fact that its shit, I'm into different genres, mainly action adventures, FPS, RPG's and a lot of original IP's, this ain't original, its all been done before, better infact.

Actually I believe the reviewers (IGN, Eurogamer) have been paid to give it a high score, if they give sequels or "seen it all before" games shit scores, why not this? I'd say this played like a cross between Half Life and Serious Sam but with zombies."

Quick! Ready flame to fight the troll!

Actually, wait. Lets not bother.

@wingzerosys
"No cos I don't play co-op or take any notice..."

Then it's not the game for you.

where's the demo gone?

But you being here arguing with him and defending the game isn't sad? confused now. Personally, I think Left 4 Dead is very overrated... simplistic and repetitive gameplay using the social aspect as a crutch.

'plus i HATE shooting with they triggers on 360 pad. ps3 shooters usually map 'fire' to R1, not R2 like the 360. shooting with the trigger is imprecise and crap for single shots or tap firing." '

Actually this plays really well with the trigger and with just a nudge of the right trigger you can fire off a couple of rounds from a distance and hit your mark.

Played with a group of friends over the weekend and we all had a ball - As the review states this is not for people who dont play online but with a group then its mayhem. Working out tactical positions whilst waiting for an imminent attack is great fun and then even more fun when the mayhem starts and your so called tactical plan falls apart into chaos.

I wasn't sold when I first played the demo but got persuaded to get it and Im really glad I did.

Give this a go if you are in doubt - You might be pleasantly surprised.

Well i wont get to play the co-op element - as i refuse to pay microsoft for gold membership.

But the demo didnt feel "tweaked" for the pad (where's the aim assistance you get in half life 2 on console?)

And I dunno.. it just felt "meh" to me.. Seen it all before.. played it all before.. Nothing new or original ...

No interesting atmosphere or plot like bioshock.. no interesting gameplay elements like mirrors edge.. just an average mundane run of the mill shooter. If anyone else other than valve had made this, no-one would care for it.

this is the absolute greatest game ever. Never had so much fun playing multiplayer. If you play it on its own it is average, probably below average as there is no story or any real structure to the game. You are completely missing the point if you think its run of the email. It is totally original when you play it with 4 people online and totally brilliant. Different every time and brilliant fun. Yeah I don't like paying for gold membership either but it costs £45 for a year and in terms of the return on money-fun I'm coming out massively on top. Considering it takes me like 6 hours to read the average book that costs £6.99 and a trip to the cinema is now pushing towards £10 and more in London its actually not that much at all.

The main reason it is so fun is that you don;t have to play it competetively. I love Halo3 and Call of Duty 4 online. But I'll never ahve the time to get good enough at it so am always spanked by annoying american kids. This is pure co-op though and because of the AI director no scenario plays the same way twice. Go buy it.

Completely agree with Jstar. If you play on your own you are not going to get much out of this, but with 3 other friends you will get hours and hours of entertainment. We were playing on normal difficulty on the final stage of the first act and we still couldn't do it, because you can devise a plan based on how things went on the previous try but the enemies will do something different next time you play. That is the beauty of the game.

Yes the graphics are ok and the level design is decent but not amazing but it doesn't matter. As for the AI, once you're attacked by a Hunter who is waiting for you to collect an extra stash of ammo away from the other survivors you'll question whether or not the AI is basic. After all how many standard run-of-the-mill zombies have you seen excelling on the Krypton factor?

I bought this yesterday and I can't get into it at all. I really can't understand the 9/10 score. I'll be taking it back to the store today and sticking to GOW2 and COD:WoW for coop.

What a remarkable game. Intense and frenetic co-op. One of the best games I have ever played with friends on a co-operative basis. Yes it seems short, but the experience is unique. You are in a zombie movie. Cue screams of "Help me!", "Get it off me!" and "Here they come!" A triumph of design and game play over graphics, but it still looks good. Shine your flashlight into a dark room whilst you can hear the sobbing of a witch and try not to feel nervous. Currently loving it and not even tried the versus stuff yet.

To all the people saying the graphics are crap and dated etc:

I don't know what that's based on but I strongly disagree. The graphics are awesome and top-notch. The characters are so cool, especially the faces. The way everything is designed is just neat. Plus I love the grain effect; perfect usage, especially in the woods. Too bad there isn't more of a story, because it's got me really interested in the world and the survivors. Maybe they'll elaborate on this zombie world they created with another game some day?

Left 4 Dead = Best fun I've had on co-op ever. I've noticed some people being kicked for not using their mics (not by me) which is a bit harsh IMHO but that illustrates the cooperative nature of this undead beast.

That is all.

GET IT NOW ITS SOOOOO GOOD :)

Don't worry about jumping in with randoms, there is something that seems to bond you together. Everyone seems to have a pre-existing understanding that you're all in it to survive and get to the end. So you'll find yourself getting patched up without asking, having pain pills handed to you. The audio cues are a welcome addition, no need to type out "WEAPONS HERE" because your in game character has already shouted it in game for all to hear.

Play on Normal and you should survive through to the end with the finale giving you some challenges, play on Advanced or above and it can get a bit nasty!

One of the most welcome additions is the take a break function. Go idle or need to AFK and you can set the AI off in your place while you do whatever you have to do. This needs to be adopted by all!

It must be nearly five months that I've had this game and I'm still playing it regularly.

I also think it's wrested the 'snappiest FPS controls on a gamepad' crown from Halo - no mean feat.

^ Second that, the controls are absolutely great with pad!