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Left 4 Dead 2 Hands On

PC Xbox 360 Hands On by Johnny Minkley

3 July, 2009

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Project lead Chet Faliszek tells me the axe can be used to one-hit kill a Witch, if you can successfully sneak up behind her. And it's likely there'll be a dedicated Achievement for that. "If you did that with a frying pan, you're going to have a bad experience," he adds, grinning.

Towards the end of the stage, we're heading down a street, with three-to-four storey blocks on either side. Suddenly, zombies are streaming from top-floor windows in a torrent, before flowing towards us like a slavering tsunami. A great moment.

Reaching the final safehouse proves relatively straightforward in the end. And utterly useless preparation for what comes next. The finale of The Parish is the first example we've seen of 'gauntlet' gameplay, new to the sequel. Starting at one end of a bridge, your party has to make it to the other end, where - a radio message informs you - a rescue helicopter is waiting. There's no holing up and surviving until help arrives. Your mission is literally, and in the best Arnie voice I can muster: "Get to the chopper!"

What plays out is an astonishingly relentless trek down the bridge, clambering over upturned cars and crashed trucks, while crashing waves of zombies burst towards you in a seething, ceaseless flow. There is no respite. There is nowhere to hide. There is only forwards. And if you die, you die. It's up to the remaining party members to push on regardless.

The pile-up of broken motors littering the roadway means that, while the zombies are all coming at you from a narrow, defined space up ahead, their sheer volume means you're under constant threat from those splitting off from the pack to scurry up and down the bridge structure to flank you or box you in from the rear. The closest things to a corner to cower in are open truck containers, which is where to find ammo pickups and the like. But there's very little point in hiding away here other than seizing an opportunity to heal yourself.

'Left 4 Dead 2' Screenshot 3

Not everyone was pleased with the addition of daylight missions.

One moment sticks in the mind that sums up the frenzy. My character and another had fallen off edges (there are also great holes ripped through the roadway at various points), and were clinging on for dear life, waiting to be dragged to safety by one of the others. Help duly arrived, and, unable to move, I watched with hilarity as endless swarms of zombies kept aborting any attempts to pull us up, until just enough space was cleared before the next onslaught to haul us both up.

It's bloody hard. I don't know what difficulty it was set to, but I didn't see a single group reach the chopper all afternoon. But what a rush.

And that's your lot for now. Valve is promising further substantial reveals of game content in the run-up to launch, in addition to a multiplayer demo that will be made available pre-release. Based on this playthrough, it's more of the same with some neat additions. Which is, again, in no way a bad thing.

The subtleties and depths added by the inclusion of melee weapons, a reworked AI director and so on, won't be fully appreciated until the final game hits. And so, the exasperation of a large number of L4D fans aggrieved that this is being sold as a separate game rather than released as an add-on is likely to continue until people experience it first hand.

'Left 4 Dead 2' Screenshot 4

The Charger, a ferocious new enemy. All those one-armed press-ups paid off in the end, then.

Valve simply urges fans to "trust" it; and in fairness the studio hardly has a history of unjustly mugging customers. The various pledges of ongoing support for the original may also prove an emollient, once they materialise (and Faliszek also teases that we haven't seen the last of the original crew: "We love those four, we love their story, but we think there's some other place to go as well. They're not dead, they're still going on. So definitely... We'll see what happens in the future.")

But on the evidence so far, it's hard not to be thrilled all over again by the prospect of headsetting it up with chums and pounding through the new locations, with the new characters and weapons. And in the meantime, once the blistering heat and SEGA-blue skies give way to familiar concrete grey misery, I suspect more than a few will still be locked away in dark rooms romping through the original.

Left 4 Dead 2 is due out for PC and Xbox 360 on 17th November.

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Rirekon
03/07/09 @ 13:07
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Can. Not. Wait.
Love Left4Dead, this is a day-one preorder for me to be honest
the_dudefather
03/07/09 @ 13:09
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' the axe can be used to one-hit kill a Witch, if you can successfully sneak up behind her'

oh hell yeah, that should lead to some fun online

aside from that, can't see much use in the melee weapons from a L4D1 standpoint, unless they are going to give you less ammo, or if you decided to go melee only for a challenging run through a chapter :D
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03/07/09 @ 13:10
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Consider this a day one purchase for me.

What I would like to know is how are the melee weapons kept? Are they a permanent fixture in your inventory or are they handled much like petrol cans and gas tanks were in the original?
beastmaster
03/07/09 @ 13:13
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Not played the first one online yet. Tonight, I will take on the undead and probably die screaming. Probably.

This one sounds great. I may play it online in 2011.
frostcircus
03/07/09 @ 13:20
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Fucking sheep will buy jail time and a nasty rash
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03/07/09 @ 13:21
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I for one am hugely affected by the discovery that Doomguy75 thinks less of me for wanting more of one of my favourite games, and am going to change my ways forever.
kinky_mong
03/07/09 @ 13:23
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Oh lordy, I can not wait for this.
Cylinder
03/07/09 @ 13:24
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Most anticipated game of the year for me (would've been Brutal Legend but now it really does seem like it won't get a PC release :( ).

@Tuffty
Melee weapons replace your primary weapon I believe.
Bangaioh
03/07/09 @ 13:31
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pre-order x 3 for me, a couple for me mates!
DFawkes
03/07/09 @ 13:38
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I can just see it now, seeing the witch at a distance. Carefully skulking my way up to the witch, as my skilled teammates snipe away zombies with deadly accuracy. As I inch closer to the witch, I decide to switch from my trsuted auto-shotgun to my close combat weapon. So, just before I hit fire, right beisde her now, as she slowly turns her head, I hit the weapon switch...

AHH! I've taken the blinking pan by mistake! DONK! Followed by imminent flesh rending. I will love this indeed :)
Sub-kamikaze
03/07/09 @ 13:46
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Hmm, not sure. The first one was only so-so...

I'll give the demo a whirl.
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megastar
03/07/09 @ 13:51
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shurrup demi!! :P

This sounds very exciting - loving the fact that you cant just hole up in a corner anymore. I shall no doubt be playing this solidly all weekend on release
Kyledanutmeg
03/07/09 @ 13:52
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Doomguy75 you're a total nonse shut the fuck up, If people like the game then it's there choice so piss off and get a life.
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agparrot
03/07/09 @ 13:53
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@Tuffty

What I would like to know is how are the melee weapons kept? Are they a permanent fixture in your inventory or are they handled much like petrol cans and gas tanks were in the original?

That's a good question - they might well be pickups that you have to drop when you aren't using them, as you suggest, or perhaps there will only be the capacity to carry pistols +1 other weapon, be that either one of the shotgun/uzi/assault rifle types, or instead a melee weapon.
Smuggo
03/07/09 @ 13:55
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"If Valve actually cared they would have dumped the source engine for this game as it looks fucking terrible and dated. Go look at the latest pictures, PURE SHIT. it's nothing more than a cash in for the holidays."

OMG teh graphics are the most important bit!!

So what is Source is old. It's a pretty decent engine overall, and it's quite adequate for the Xbox 360. And if the game is fun, i'm not that bothered if it doesn't look as good as some other games.
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03/07/09 @ 13:55
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@DFawkes

or one of your buddies shoots the witch just before you swing....
muscleblade
03/07/09 @ 13:57
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@Doomguy75

Left4Dead 3 in 2010 you say? Sold.

Bremenacht
03/07/09 @ 14:05
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Oh god I love shameless cash-ins. I wish they'd just kept the same game and given it a different name in order to fuel my indignation. Oh! They have! I'll rush out and buy (or pirate) it on day one anyway and then pile into EG to whine about what a rip-off it is. Looks just like a PS2 game too. Actually, I won't buy it or play it at all - I've used telekinesis to detect what it's like to play in the future, and I can tell you right now that it's rubbish; a terrible game with terrible graphics, played by mindless sheep. Rip-off!! Shame on you Valve!! Roll on L4D3, 4 ,5 and 6 - hopefully within 2 weeks of eachother, and all exactly the same.

Baaaaaa!
Sub-kamikaze
03/07/09 @ 14:07
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It'll be 'Tales of Left 4 Dead' and one will be released each month.
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03/07/09 @ 14:07
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am I the only one that don't get what's with all the excitement about melee weapons? not to get into THAT argument, but it certainly looks the smallest of the changes, just like the incendiary ammo, and not really what makes L4D unique. maybe I'm too used to see weapons added left and right in mods (not restricted to Source mods!), but, at least for me, the new bosses, modes and AI tricks are far more interesting than any weapon or model added to the game.
Lionheart
03/07/09 @ 14:10
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@Doomguy75

haha who's that angry at life!!
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03/07/09 @ 14:16
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I wasn't gonna say a word...but +1 to Bremenacht for actually making me chortle at a rather dull point on a friday afternoon.
farticusmaximus
03/07/09 @ 14:17
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@Smuggo

Kids these days don't actually play these games don't you know? They only have the attention span to look at screenshots which is why they are so ill-informed when it comes to what gaming is actually supposed to be about - yes, the gameplay!

Let them count their pixels! Let them analyse their lighting models!

Let those annoying anal blighters in their oh so obsessive and superficial way count their blasted particle effects!

To us gamers these things matter less than a otters tinkle, for these things are the pervue of publicists.

Damn them all I say, damn their eyes, damn their teeth, damn them right down their presumably soiled britches!

/pipe

/moustache wax.

Sub-kamikaze
03/07/09 @ 14:20
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Goddamn Valve laughing in the faces of their customers! Their lack of respect for their fanbase is ridiculous. The way we're consistently treated well and given highly polished products and free add-ons and upgrades and a platform to talk to the developers and a digital delivery system - it's all been for this one moment: THIS SICK CASH-IN!

My world view is now jaded.
Ryuken
03/07/09 @ 14:28
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So, there is hope yet for a new campaign with the old quartet. Good.
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03/07/09 @ 14:47
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i expect i will trade in L4D for this the day its released, and feel like a dirty ho for doing so.
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03/07/09 @ 15:03
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Melee weapons, incendiary ammo, a wandering witch, gauntlet events - given what we've seen done with HL2 SDK I reckon these could probably be created using the L4D SDK. The new enemy might be too. We might see some enterprising soul have a go at developing some or all of these for the original.

That leaves the revamped AI director. What does it do that's new? (not a rhetorical question).
Collymilad
03/07/09 @ 15:26
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All the graphics whores should be quiet.

Graphics are a VERY small part of what makes left 4 dead great, plud it looks fine.

Sounds like it's going to be brilliant.
christourlord
03/07/09 @ 15:45
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I'm really hoping for boss encounters with Zombie Zoe, Louis, Frank and Bill in L4D2 :)
El-Dev
03/07/09 @ 16:19
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A hell of a lot of tune changing on EG these days, shocking.
ISmoke
03/07/09 @ 16:28
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L4D, was and still is the only X360 game that stops my PS3 getting all my game time. Looking foward to number two!
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03/07/09 @ 16:56
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I enjoyed L4D, but, felt the respawning once you died made the game way to easy as you knew if you died or someone else died while playing online they would simply be re-spawned and be saved; no matter how many times you/they died. This took away any urgency to survive as group to complete the level. This also took away the tension to survive as a group. The game would have been better if you died in the level you only have 1 respawn - this would increase the battle for survival and a more importance to work and look after each other to complete the stage. Battling with less should become more harder and more tense; the reason for keeping everyone alive and not giving unlimited respawns - killing the whole point of survival.
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03/07/09 @ 17:14
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But the re-spawning mechanic was to keep people connected to the game, if people died and had to watch others play the remainder of the level then people would simply drop.

Then there would be less continuity of players throughout a campaign.

Yes it makes dying cheap which sucks.
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Bork0r
03/07/09 @ 19:01
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I really don't get how people can bitch and moan about Valve charging money for the upcoming left4dead2. They are a business and they want to make money so they make a game that many people enjoy and sell it at a fair price. What is the problem? I for one am happy that Valve continues to work on the Left4dead concept and I'll gladly pay for Left4dead2 cause I'm pretty sure that I'll get my moneys worth. I already feel as I am in debt for the unprecedented value of the orange box.
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WONTON
...Then there would be less continuity of players throughout a campaign.

Yes! One re-spawn per character if dead, harder to complete with less online; this then leads to more challenge on keeping everyone alive for the sake of surviva to reach the end...Re-spawning every time you die makes the game seem less of a challenge knowing that you can simply reach the end by re-spawning - If you knew you only had one chance, plus the fact it will be more difficult if there's less players; this will make players defend & look out for each other alot more. Also force people to work better together to survive; knowing you only have two chances to reach the end, with a higher risk of not, if you don't look after each others back.
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hiddenranbir
04/07/09 @ 09:28
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All games are cash ins. Surprised people don't like this being stated. :)
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04/07/09 @ 09:29
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This is going to be so awesome. I can't wait to see all these rebellious twats watch us in envy as we have endless hours of all-new left 4 dead fun, and they're all playing half-games with their 30,000 immature ragequitting groupies.

I still play L4D every night, and will do until this comes out. I'd buy a new one every year, without thinking.
ParanoidZombie
04/07/09 @ 10:59
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"What I would like to know is how are the melee weapons kept? Are they a permanent fixture in your inventory or are they handled much like petrol cans and gas tanks were in the original? "

Saw a few gameplay trailers, and what happened was that the guy showing the game dropped his M-16 in order to get the axe, so i guess it replaces your primary weapon, which would make sense since melee weapons seem very powerful and can kill a couple of infected in a single swing.
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I want to see European cities.
Of the top of my head I can think of a London campaign where you have to and through the Underground allowing you to enter the Underground at a few places.
A Paris campaign where you have to travel to the Eiffel tower, go up and then down again, where zombies climb up the outside of it.
Moscow campaign where you must traverse the halls of some palace and travel the Red Square.
Then there could be one in Rome or Venice. Athens. Istanbul.
And then it could take place in Middle-East, Africa, Asia, South America, etc.
monkeywithnoeyes
05/07/09 @ 11:48
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has anybody taken to the new character models yet?
Lionheart
06/07/09 @ 09:20
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Very much looking forward to this one. In fact i CANNOT wait. I'm not one of these people who hate it being a brand new game. I mean I will pay full price for the next installment of Fifa which essentially is just updated teams and kits right?

The ONLY gripe I have with Left 4 Dead 2 is, is it risking becoming a bit Dead Rising? Maybe that's something one of you guys from Eurogamer can answer? I'm very worried it's going to lose it's fear factor and just beome a laughable mess?

Opinions please?
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asphaltcowboy
06/07/09 @ 10:55
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I'd love to see an Army of Two-style drag ability where you can drag a downed survivor back behind a defensive line created by the other two players in order to make it a little nicer/easier/cooler to help an incapped player get up. Obviously need to let them carry on shooting their pistols as well. Might be cool during some of those gauntlet moments even!
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I do love that idea asphaltcowboy, it wouldn't be too hard to have either. They can still shoot as you revive anyway, perhaps dragging could slow/freeze the revive meter but it'd be a great option.

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