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Xbox 360 PC News by Robert Purchese

29 September, 2009

Left 4 Dead add-on Crash Course has been released on Steam and Xbox Live Marketplace, as Valve said it would be.

Valve didn't tell us the Xbox 360 version would cost 800 MS Points (£6.80/€9.60), however - 560 MSP (£4.76 / €6.72) was the previously announced price. It's not clear whether this is intended or simply an error. Tom's downloading the add-on for Xbox 360 now.

Update: Xbox Live's Larry "Major Nelson" Hryb has Tweeted that the higher price-point is an error, and the content should cost 560 MSP. He suggests holding off until Xbox Live admins rectify the mistake.

PC owners needn't pay anything for Crash Course from Steam, although the DLC doesn't appear to be available just yet.

Crash Course bridges the gap between the No Mercy and Death Toll campaigns in the original game, and has been designed for shorter, 30-minute Versus mode games, as matches using the existing campaigns can take around two hours to complete.

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RedPanda
29/09/09 @ 09:41
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Comment shit-storm time then
Physically_Insane
29/09/09 @ 09:41
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800! Well that's a kick in the nuts.
AaronTurner
29/09/09 @ 09:41
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That's alot of dosh
the_dudefather
29/09/09 @ 09:42
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Microsoft alerted the horde!
DrRobotnik
29/09/09 @ 09:44
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DLC is a joke.

Bobby Kotick has already said it - a $50 game is now potentially a $500 game, what with all the peripherals, avatar clothing, game content and other shit they sell us.

This isn't even a whole new campaign - In fact, it's only 2 maps, so it's less than half the size of the other four campaigns, which each include 5 maps.
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29/09/09 @ 09:45
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I just noticed it was 800 points as I was downloading it. It's still only the price of a round of pints for someone with only a few mates. Or a large pizza.
Monkey_Puncher
29/09/09 @ 09:46
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It'll be an error, bet they update it later.
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29/09/09 @ 09:46
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I'm not even vaguely convinced that Microsoft has much to do with this. The likes of infinity ward and activision release free levels and maps all the time with no issues. It's therefore highly unlikely that Microsoft forced Valve to charge for this add on in any way shape or form.
donnie080208
29/09/09 @ 09:46
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cant help think this has only been released to appaise the "sell out" crowd complaining about l4d2. plus is this a new sort of campaign or is it only the versus mode, which imo is the worst part of l4d. the zombie vs human just felt like a mod to me underdeveloped and tacked on.
RedPanda
29/09/09 @ 09:46
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£6.80 = 2 pints of lager and a packet of crisps.....

...oh shit
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29/09/09 @ 09:46
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I'll hold off until the price is confirmed. There have been pricing mistakes in the past on Live. They can shove it for 800.
Demikaze
29/09/09 @ 09:46
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800 points is a wee bit pricey though, ja? Especially when another price all together was stated earlier.

edit: obviously, it could just be an error. Has happened on more than a few occasions.
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Buztafen
29/09/09 @ 09:47
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Price of a curry, but still...thanks for the heads up MS. :(
DrRobotnik
29/09/09 @ 09:48
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@localnotail

It's not about the fact that it's only a 'round of pints', it's that comparative to the price of a full game it's a lot of money for two new maps, especially when they're giving it away for free on PC.

penhalion
29/09/09 @ 09:49
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And how the frak is the FREE pc version nowhere in sight!
cragtek
29/09/09 @ 09:51
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It's rape.
Hobo
29/09/09 @ 09:51
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"I'm not even vaguely convinced that Microsoft has much to do with this. The likes of infinity ward and activision release free levels and maps all the time with no issues. It's therefore highly unlikely that Microsoft forced Valve to charge for this add on in any way shape or form."

Why would this comment get blackballed? Its absolutely true!
asphaltcowboy
29/09/09 @ 09:52
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Not buying for 800. Will wait and see if this is a 'mistake' first...
DrRobotnik
29/09/09 @ 09:54
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"Why would this comment get blackballed? Its absolutely true!"

No, it's not. Hence the blackballing.
Demikaze
29/09/09 @ 09:55
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@Penhalion - really? Where are these free maps of which you speak? I was playing COD4 and COD:WOW last night and all downloadable map packs were priced at 800 points. All of them. I can think of Bungie as releasing the odd map on very special occasions, but that's about it.
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29/09/09 @ 09:56
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@DrRobotnik - I understand that this release might get people upset on principle, but I personally simply do not mind paying for it. I love this game, I still play at least 4 games a week of it, sometimes a lot more. So I know I'll get more fun out of it than I would from spending the same money on anything else I can think of. I really don't care if it's free for PC users, good for them - I prefer to play it on my XBOX, which cost me a damn sight less than a good gaming PC would. I don't understand why people get so irate about it.
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29/09/09 @ 10:00
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"No, it's not. Hence the blackballing. "

So there aren't companies out there that release free DLC for games then? Gears Of War didn't get free maps? Call Of Duty: WAW didn't get free maps? Halo 3 doesn't have free maps? Batman: Arkham Asylum doesn't have free maps?

Yeah thought so.
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29/09/09 @ 10:00
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contrary to what the article says, the Steam version is not available
JensonJet
29/09/09 @ 10:01
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I can't imagine why anybody is bothering with this. The new game is coming out pretty soon. Had this come out a few months ago, I understand.

Personally I'm going to continue with my policy of not paying for any downloads as this encourages Microsoft/games industry to move quicker towards an ultimately more expensive, download-only, gaming environment and kill off the second-hand market for good.
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29/09/09 @ 10:01
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@demikaze,

it's not that it's 800 points, it's that it was supposed to be 560 points which in itself was the olive branch to xbox because the pc dlc is free.

that it's now currently 800 is a bit bollocks
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29/09/09 @ 10:02
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"@Penhalion - really? Where are these free maps of which you speak? I was playing COD4 and COD:WOW last night and all downloadable map packs were priced at 800 points. All of them."

http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-GB/games/...

There's a free map for COD:WAW right there.
geeza2020
29/09/09 @ 10:02
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sweet, i've been waiting for this for ages. Hopefully the price will have dropped by the time i get home tonight to download it though!
Anthony_Daniels
29/09/09 @ 10:02
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you dont need a good gaming PC to make left 4 dead look a whole generation better on the PC than it does on the 360
Demikaze
29/09/09 @ 10:02
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@Hobo - Well... I got told.

I think it's more down to the fact that these games DO charge for most of their new maps. The odd free map is fine by Microsoft because at least they get a return on the larger packs. With L4D, we've had one large free update (survival mode) and I believe Microsoft objected to another completely free update. Kind of understandable - that's all space on their servers and no money for them.
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geeza2020
29/09/09 @ 10:04
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oh, and hobo? that free COD:WAW map is just another one of the maps that came with the game, but played in the daytime instead of night

pretty awful really.
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"oh, and hobo? that free COD:WAW map is just another one of the maps that came with the game, but played in the daytime instead of night"

So irrelevant it's not even true haha

It's still map that's being hosted on XBL for free, regardless of it's content.

Feel free to counteract the free Halo 3, Gears Of War, and Batman map packs that're on Live too though?
Demikaze
29/09/09 @ 10:07
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@Hobo - there will be chargeable map packs for Batman AA coming. See my point above why it appears that Valve couldn't release another free update.
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Yossarian
29/09/09 @ 10:08
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"Well... I got told."

Not really. All of the free maps he mentions either have some sort of advertising tie-in, or a rare special dispensation from Microsoft (which Valve got for the Survival Pack, remember?). All of Halo's maps, for instance, originally cost money but later became free, or in the case of Cold Storage received special dispensation (in this case for Bungie Day), but still had strings attached (you could only play it in Matchmaking playlists which also required the paid Legendary maps).

It is likely the Batman has free DLC only because it will later have paid DLC.
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29/09/09 @ 10:09
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Microsoft has disturbed the Witch!
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@Hobo - there will be chargable map packs for Batman AA coming.

Again though, that's not really relevant unless Microsoft or any developers come forward and say "This is free, but you'll be making up for that with later paid-for map packs".

Until then, there's still free content on Live, yet Valve continue to spin this story about Microsoft making them charge. Don't get me wrong, i ADORE Valve, they're great, Orange Box is one of my favourite releases ever...but it's hardly the first time Valve will have spun 360 owners a load of bull...namely the big TF2 update that never happened!
DrRobotnik
29/09/09 @ 10:12
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@Hobo

You're a cretin. Stop talking and just listen.

Microsoft only allow approximately 1 in 3 game DLC to be free. So, for example, Halo get around this by charging for their maps for 'x' period of time, then make them free, whereas others will release 2 packs at a price, and then a third for free (I don't think the order of paid for/free is important).

Left 4 Dead, as you should know, has already had a FREE DLC update, and as this will be the second pack Valve are releasing, they HAVE to charge for it.

Oh, and World at War charge 800 points for almost all their map packs. Go and look on xbox.com
BadBoyBonner
29/09/09 @ 10:14
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Why is there always someone who does a fucking retard prices comparison as if we can't dived £6.80 into every day items ourselves.

So the price of 4 Big Macs then, an they only last 3 minutes when I have em for my breakfast.

So 1000th of the price I payed for the girlfriends engagement ring which doesn't even do anything, so cracking value etc etc

Who gives a fuck what the price can be divided by.

People are pissed off as MS are very heavy handedly enforcing popular games charge for things that are free on the PC.

"It will destabilise the Live economy" well why not revalue it then because it is certainly becoming one of my deciding factors when choosing to update next gen, when added with the annual live fee's.
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What about Burnout paradise, Gears and Rainbow Six Vegas, all have had free content, doesn't add up to me and at 560 I was tempted but for 800 no thanks, I'll wait for L4D2.
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29/09/09 @ 10:15
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I guess the real issue is why is it a higher price, it's not much, but is it a mistake?
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29/09/09 @ 10:15
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Aaaw! How wonderful of you to get personal!

"Left 4 Dead, as you should know, has already had a FREE DLC update, and as this will be the second pack Valve are releasing, they HAVE to charge for it."

ha, so you're told! You think my examples are the ONLY free in-game content on XBL? Get a grip.

"Oh, and World at War charge 800 points for almost all their map packs. Go and look on xbox.com "

Yeah. Having purchased them, i'm aware of this? It's the free one i'm drawing attention to.
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29/09/09 @ 10:17
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Burnout Paradise got free content because it was associated with a major title update. Note that Left 4 Dead also received free content (the Survival Pack)... because it was associated with a major title update.
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micosoft are bleeding the fuck out of us every chance they get.

Yay Capitalism!
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"Burnout Paradise got free content because it was associated with a major title update. Note that Left 4 Dead also received free content (the Survival Pack)... because it was associated with a major title update."

So we'll ignore the title update that came last week that fixed a ton of things then shall we?
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29/09/09 @ 10:19
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@Yoss, yeah, I edited my post earlier to try and point that out. I think Hobo may be trolling a bit...
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29/09/09 @ 10:20
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How exactly am i trolling? Am i the one who resorted to namecalling?
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29/09/09 @ 10:20
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"ha, so you're told!"

No, so I know. It doesn't matter how, what matters is that you're wrong.

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29/09/09 @ 10:22
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Twitter updates from Major Nelson "Crash Course had was priced incorrectly. It's being updated to be 560 points...so hold off until you see that price before you purchase" and AceyBongos "Left 4 Dead Crash Course is up for 800 MS Points by mistake. We're fixing it to 560MS Points as we speak, but pls DON'T download it for 800"

So stop ya bitching!

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