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News by Robert Purchese

14 August, 2008

Konami claims to have "pulled out all the stops" in order to make Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 a "landmark in footballing games" as part of a raft of feature announcements today.

Controls, visuals and AI are all areas rethought and rebuilt in order to reinvigorate the football simulation - and of course to tackle increasingly stiff competition from FIFA.

Pulling off tricks, for instance, is now done by rapidly changing direction when on the ball, rather than by relying on complex special moves.

Teamvision AI, the big idea from last year, will be more adept and send team members off on runs as they adapt more intuitively to their surroundings.

Plus, everything you see should be more detailed, sound better, and behave much more realistically than ever before; weather conditions mean passes need to be stronger on soggier pitches and so on.

Become a Legend mode, however, is billed as the biggest addition in PES 2009. This casts you as a single midfielder or striker, because those are the most exciting positions, obviously.

Here you start as a rookie and plough your way to the top, climbing the transfer ladder after good results and falling down after bad ones.

Become a Legend extends online to Legends mode, which sounds a lot like Be a Pro from FIFA. Friends band together together in teams - no word on how many - and take on rival squads.

"We have pulled out all the stops to make PES 2009 a landmark in footballing games. From the most basic controls through to the wide-ranging additions to game modes such as Become a Legend, all-new visuals, sound, and the Edit mode, Seabass and his team have strived to cram as much as they can into the new game," said Jon Murphy from Konami.

"And with more online announcements to follow, there is every reason to believe that PES 2009 is the football game everyone has been waiting for."

Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 is due out for PC, Xbox 360, PS3, PS2, PSP, Wii and DS this autumn.

Head over to our Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 gamepage to find out more.

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THATinkjar
14/08/08 @ 13:53
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I've heard all of this before... I'll still buy it, though.
andijames
14/08/08 @ 13:56
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I hope they have learnt there lessons from last year but they said the same this time last year and it was awful

I really do hope they manage to re-invigorate this though. I really do. Sill buying FIFA 09 though.
Darren
14/08/08 @ 13:56
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Hmmm, we'll see... I seem to recall Konami making such claims prior to PES 6 appearing on the 360 and then when it was clear that wasn't exactly brilliant they said the same things about PES 2008 (of which the PS3 version was especially dreadful IMO; the EG review was a disgrace!). I've pre-ordered FIFA 09 and whether I buy PES 2009 very much depends on whether it is a massive improvement over the previous games on the 360.
Yossarian
14/08/08 @ 13:57
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I will believe it when I see it. They have been shameless and shameful with the standard of the franchise this generation.
McFly55
14/08/08 @ 13:58
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Ill buy this and FIFA to be on the safe side.
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14/08/08 @ 13:59
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It sounds like a Football I want to play. Especially for the Become a Legend mode.
Bealsy
14/08/08 @ 14:04
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"It sounds like a Football I want to play"

Like Guitar Hero?
rob230
14/08/08 @ 14:05
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Blah blah blah. Konami do this every year and each time they make something better, something else takes a massive slide.

They need to start from scratch.

I'm a massive Pro Evo fan but they still haven't made a PES worthy of the current gen yet.

Darren
14/08/08 @ 14:05
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"Pro Evolution Soccer 2009 is due out for PC, Xbox 360, PS3, PS2, PSP, Wii and DS this autumn."

Isn't that a big part of PES' problem... the fact that Konami, as a small publisher, are committed to doing so many versions of the games that their quality invariably suffers?
nickthegun
14/08/08 @ 14:06
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"We are pulling out all the stops to make sure 2009 is not as shit as 2008"

I heard they sacked the guy who made the cardboard cutouts for for the crowd animation and everything.
degville
14/08/08 @ 14:10
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@THATinkjar haha - yeah me too
bengray66
14/08/08 @ 14:13
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They need to start from scratch.

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Ditch the dead horse that is Pro Evo, And start from scratch in the revival of ISS!! that would be AWESOME!! (as long as Holland still have Jurgen)
JayeM
14/08/08 @ 14:17
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"Pulling off tricks, for instance, is now done by rapidly changing direction when on the ball."

I hate this.
QPRHOOPS81
14/08/08 @ 14:20
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something tells me the demo better be great or its flop ahoy. After the last edition people are going to be skeptical and need alot of motivating to buy it.
mcbi4kh2
14/08/08 @ 14:23
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Remember 08 online? *shudders*
Zomoniac
14/08/08 @ 14:24
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So why were none of these improved visuals apparent in the trailer you just released? Or are these improvements on the same scale as you made last year, ie nil and made up?

And having Be A Pro only without the option to play in defence or 10v10 online is not a selling point. You've lost the plot. Ditch the game and start over, using no assets at all from what currently exists, and maybe then you'll get back in the game.
CunningLinguist
14/08/08 @ 14:31
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Can you remap the controls in FIFA to pro evo controls? You couldn't in the demo for euro 2008. If that game is anything to go by, then EA really made some progress.
Zomoniac
14/08/08 @ 14:32
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Can you remap the controls in FIFA to pro evo controls?

Well you could in 07, 08 and Euro, so I should hope so! Although the triggers and bumpers are reversed to the PES defaults (ie RT to sprint, LB to change player), but I prefer it that way.
Zander
14/08/08 @ 14:35
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PES 08 really put me off, then i tried fifa 08 and realised that EA were the ones making changes not konami. Seeing is believing but i doubt i'll be won over by the next pes....
QPRHOOPS81
14/08/08 @ 14:37
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ball physics would be a good thing. You know so the ball doesn't bounce in crazy impossible directions just so it will go to the cpu opposition. That used to wind me up more than anything. Also the throw in invisible walls need to go. Lastly ditch the awful scripting and fact that you can tackle a player and have them get up and run off with the ball while your still on the floor.
dickrickulous
14/08/08 @ 14:45
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I want it all to come together for Konami but it probably wont.

Their press releases make bitter reading after spending a few months with each version, no matter how good it is.

Revolutionary AI? Really?
DFawkes
14/08/08 @ 14:45
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"Konami claims to have "pulled out all the stops"... as part of a raft..."
It'll deflate then. Sorry, I know that was poor.

What can you really do with a football game anyway? Teh only real variation I've seen is controlling just one player. Apart from that, there's not much else. Apart from guns.
itsfuzzy
14/08/08 @ 14:53
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Think its a case of having to pull out all the stops rather than a desire to do so. PES5, 6 and 2008 are all an embarrassment . And dont mention the online play. A lot of the PES community are all leaving for Fifasville. . And can Seabass and the boys get rid of the god awful music they have had in the last 3 editions. . . . .
malteaserhead
14/08/08 @ 14:53
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I agree with Darren - sounds like the same old empty promises.
I definately won't be getting this at launch and maybe not at all.

fool me once, shame on — shame on you. Fool me — you can't get fooled again.
Feanor
14/08/08 @ 15:01
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"Pulling off tricks, for instance, is now done by rapidly changing direction when on the ball, rather than by relying on complex special moves."

This sound fucking horrible. :(
mcmonkeyplc
14/08/08 @ 15:06
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If it's true then BRING IT ON!
andywilkie35
14/08/08 @ 15:08
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every year a new pro comes out, every year they say there'll be loads of changes, every year i buy it and realise that really there aren't many changes at all. Still gonna get it tho coz i fucking love it
Apologie
14/08/08 @ 15:12
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i will never buy another PES game by impulse... the last installment was nothing but a bad joke.
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Stu
14/08/08 @ 15:15
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I'll believe it when I see it. The trailer looks like PES2008 with a few new animations chucked in.
oreillymj
14/08/08 @ 15:22
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I make a point of not buying anything from Konami that

1) Is tied to 1 user on 1 console
2) Has Konami's usually dire networking code
3) Require jumping through 15 fucking hoops just to register so you can log on to their dire online service.

I'll be waiting until at least the first patch to see if this is worth buying. Then I might pick it up 2nd hand.
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Browntracky
14/08/08 @ 15:38
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I was just about to get pes 2008 for the wii this weekend. Is it still worth getting or should I wait?
levis
14/08/08 @ 15:38
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This is the first year since 2001 that I wont be pre-ordering this! I'll wait and see how it pans out methinks...
malteaserhead
14/08/08 @ 15:44
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Feanor
"Pulling off tricks, for instance, is now done by rapidly changing direction when on the ball, rather than by relying on complex special moves."

This sound fucking horrible. :(
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Yeah. Seems another step into the arcade end that pro fans historically wanted to shy away from.
Could be better than it sounds though.

So Konami are also trying to do a 'be a pro' style online mode.
Fifa can already get 5v5 online working better than Komai get 1v1 working, I'm really pessimistic about PES implementing any kind of online team mode.
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mcwildcard
14/08/08 @ 15:49
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Pull out all the stops?
I'd prefer they pulled out all the bugs before release this time.
They won't though, and I'll be disappointed once again.
disussedgenius
14/08/08 @ 15:56
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Fuck Become a Legend, just improve the Master League.
WooHoo!!!
14/08/08 @ 15:59
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I wouldn't touch this with a barge poll. Comments like that just cries "It's going to be oh so shit"

Konami and PES are a joke. They should of been working on a next gen Pro Evo on the side 4 years ago while releasing these crappy editions and then unleash a decent football game. I've always bought Pro Evo but I've been burned too many times. People are talking up Fifa after the Champions League or Euro 2008 game so I think I will give it a shot.
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Slurmseh
14/08/08 @ 16:06
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As a die hard PES fan its killing me to see this series go to shit! Fifa has come on leaps and bounds and my money could be going to EA this year :(
gaselite
14/08/08 @ 16:22
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About fucking time. I'll have to see some of it before I commit to anything though.
gaselite
14/08/08 @ 16:28
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Incidentally, am I the only one that wishes that either of these games would introduce a five-a-side mode, without the fifa street cartoon stylings behind it, and using the same controls as the normal game?

I reckon that could be great fun. Mix things up a bit.
asharkman
14/08/08 @ 16:39
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I'm waiting for multiple reviews before i go out and buy this. I might just turn to Fifa. I played the euro fifa game and it's very good.
As for that dudde thinking of buying 2008. Don't bother. buy the euro2008 game if your gonna buy anything.
TheMoonRat
14/08/08 @ 16:44
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Does this mean there will be the return of 2v2 games like there used to be in pro evo 6? (2 people per team controlling as many players)
jdhaigh
14/08/08 @ 16:44
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Having played it since ISS Pro 98' I never would have thought I'd see the day when FIFA would overtake Pro Evo, yet I think this years edition might just be the one. Thats coming from someone who hates FIFA!
jontam
14/08/08 @ 17:09
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Pro Evo has been absolute shit since the 4th and I expect this to be no different.
Bumbuliuz
14/08/08 @ 17:23
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So far the screenshots havent been anything spectacular. I used to love PES but in the last few years their quality has suffered. Cant belive myself saying I will probably be playing Fifa 09 than this one. Unless the demo sells me on the changes, witch I doubt it will I sad to say.
Foray
14/08/08 @ 18:14
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lol how about they tight gits pay for all the licenses then they might be pulling out the stops. Euro 2008 improved again on Fifa 08 which is now better than Pro Evo.
Digital~Orgasm
14/08/08 @ 18:15
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Yawn, same old crap each year, about this time we get all the hype for both PES and Fifa. Neither will be that revolutionary, aside from a few gameplay tweaks and slightly better visuals.


It's crazy how these games get released each year, pretty much similar to the previous year's attempt and we all go out and buy them.
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Tweakmonkey
14/08/08 @ 18:26
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What do people really want from a football game? For me I want good controls, realistic physics and animation with no slow downs and plenty of licensed teams. PES used to deliver on all of these, but then online gaming came along and the goal posts have changed so to speak. If Konami can sort out the net code and servers then that will go a long way to winning back the community.
aidey6
14/08/08 @ 18:29
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the interview on IGN last year sums up Konamis' Seabass I dont give a flying fcuk attitude as far as I'm concerned, if fifa 09 is as good as they claim, then that's the 1st now current gen football title that i'm going to buy

http://uk.ps3.ign.com/articles/827/82731...

"Seabass: Of course. To be honest I don't think the slow-down is that bad compared to the 360 and as I said, we don't create just a PS3 game, we created both together. But when we compared them directly we were shocked because the PS3 has a little bit more slowdown and we don't really know why"

how can you not know why your title has slowdown???!!!
Waser
14/08/08 @ 19:12
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@ aidey6

Well if they new why, it wouldn't have had slow down right?!?!

My money is on FIFA whipping PES again anyway.
Dark_Era
14/08/08 @ 19:33
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if they take out the R2 special moves button am gonna hate this game for ever, and this is coming from someone who's bought every edition since the original iss

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