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Konami "looking into" MGS4 for Xbox 360 News

Xbox 360 PlayStation 3 News by Ellie Gibson

15 October, 2008

The saga of whether Metal Gear Solid 4 will forever remain a PS3 exclusive has been ongoing for some time now. It's been going on like this: "Yes it will no it won't or will it yes no yes no no one cares."

Now good old Konami has cranked up the rumour mill once again. Speaking to Japanese publication Morningstar (thanks Kotaku), PR type Yoshitaka Arai said the game could yet make it to Microsoft's console.

"The worldwide demand for an Xbox 360 version [of MGS4] is quite high, and it is something we are looking into," Arai stated.

But can it even be done? Unlikely, reckons series creator Hideo Kojima. Back in August he told Eurogamer, "Because MGS4 was optimised for the PS3 it is probably not possible."

That clears that one up then.

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Shakey_Jake33
15/10/08 @ 07:49
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In other words, Konami wants to do it, Kojima doesn't. Who's call is it?
Xerx3s
15/10/08 @ 07:51
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/umbrella up
/marshmallows out
DFawkes
15/10/08 @ 07:51
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But I remember the Xbox crowd quite clearly stating it's shit, so they won't want it anyway. Cries of "as good as Halo" and "MGSLOL" rang out for over 2000 comments.

Still, more consumer choice for all is always a good thing, though given how badly MGS2 Substance sold on Xbox, they may decide not to even if it's technically possible.
Widge
15/10/08 @ 07:52
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I FUCKING HATE MARSHMALLOWS
bengray66
15/10/08 @ 07:52
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As a fan of 1 & 2 (but not 3) I'm really not that fussed. It looks like a good game, but 360 has a lot of good releases coming to keep me more than busy for many a long time.

squarejawhero
15/10/08 @ 07:52
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What's wrong with it being as good as Halo? Surely if you like Halo that's a good thing?

/shrugs
dr_faulk
15/10/08 @ 07:54
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They let somebody else re-do MGS1 on the Gamecube. Why wouldn't they let somebody else do a conversion for the 360?
I know there's a huge technological hurdle to be dealt with, but... I dunno, if they write the engine from scratch or something.
Look, I'm just trying to be positive. Leave me alone.
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Bealsy
15/10/08 @ 07:55
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I'd like to see why Kojima thinks its not possible on the 360....

/runs off and claims seat next to marshmallows
the_dudefather
15/10/08 @ 07:55
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If they start doing it now or soon, it probobly would end up taking ages to convert anyway, they should just look into making the next in the series multi-platform
ZuluHero
15/10/08 @ 07:57
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Because people always like to say i told you so. TBH i don't buy this "it can't be done" anymore, where there is a will there's a way - and Konami sign Kojima's paychecks after all...
JonFE
15/10/08 @ 07:58
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Of course Konami wants to do it. Who 3rd-party publisher wouldn't? They have invested their money, should they deny the additional return?

I guess, apart from actually porting it, they only need to negotiate the license cost per DVD with Microsoft. Is one DVD per act too much to ask?

:)
Der_tolle_Emil
15/10/08 @ 07:59
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Well if there's money to make why not. More budget for future titles is in my opinion only a good thing. And more good games on a console isn't a bad thing either.
J.C
15/10/08 @ 08:01
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huge technological hurdle? if your talking about graphics, then the 360 is more than capable of running MGS4. it would probably look identical. the only hurdle will be how to fit it all onto a dvd disk. which probably is impossible. multiple disks FTL!
Dizzy
15/10/08 @ 08:02
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Let it go Konami. Nobody wants it.
muftak
15/10/08 @ 08:03
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again eurogamer late with news which already has been debunked over on neogaf
Garulon
15/10/08 @ 08:06
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Ohh, playing an aged Snake Pilliskin ripoff in a stealth game with enourmous cut scenes. Sign me up!
Avaloner
15/10/08 @ 08:07
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Who cares!??!
Bealsy
15/10/08 @ 08:08
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Cutscenes - coming to a bluray game near you soon
andywilkie35
15/10/08 @ 08:09
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I fuckin' love disc swapping, I finished it on PS3 but would happily buy it again for my 360 for the achievements
Garulon
15/10/08 @ 08:09
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Oh and you can keep Tekken as well. Blurggh.
stevethemeat
15/10/08 @ 08:13
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i hope they do it, then we will see that the ps3 is vastly more powerful than the 360, and the advantage of blu-ray
Eraysor
15/10/08 @ 08:16
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If it does come out on 360, I will have absolutely no need to ever buy a PS3.
stepneg
15/10/08 @ 08:16
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"i hope they do it, then we will see that the ps3 is vastly more powerful than the 360, and the advantage of blu-ray"

Wether they do or not I don't think your ever going to see that day, let it go
Bealsy
15/10/08 @ 08:18
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"advantage of blu-ray"

Pardon?

Look at how much data must be stored on the FIFA 09 discs. And doesn't need bluray.
ZuluHero
15/10/08 @ 08:18
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"i hope they do it, then we will see that the ps3 is vastly more powerful than the 360, and the advantage of blu-ray "

except when it comes to cross-platfrom games. GTA4's framerate on the PS3 springs to mind...
Ryze
15/10/08 @ 08:19
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I reckon it'd fit on 3 DVDs at the most.

I'd like for it to demand an HDD.
Eighthours
15/10/08 @ 08:20
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i hope they do it, then we will see that the ps3 is vastly more powerful than the 360, and the advantage of blu-ray

Have you been on this Earth since the PS3 was released?
stevethemeat
15/10/08 @ 08:23
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sorry, i forgot to add enough sarcasm in my post.
Steroyd
15/10/08 @ 08:30
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LMFAO.

Kotaku got this "news" from Neogaf who got the news from the Japaneese Yahoo the poster didn't understand Japaneese and only homed in on the MGS4 comment, someone who DID understand Japaneese said it was an editorial about games going multiplatform (naturally MGS4 was mentioned because it's 3rd party and exclusive to PS3 at time of this post).

Basically it'd be like making a headline news bulletin by taking an editorial from Gamesindustry.biz out of context.

Example. Sony Big in Japan = Sony succeeds this TGS or they go bankrupt.
berelain
15/10/08 @ 08:31
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The game could easily work on the 360; just instead of having to sit through a 3-5 minute install between each chapter, you swap a disc into the drive. Complex, I know!

I wouldn't mind seeing it released for the 360... I mean, I already have it for the PS3, but its a solid title.. not perhaps the AAAAA+ game some people were hoping for, but still a great experience, and it'd be a good excuse to go back to it.

Personally, though, I think the 360 will get it when they release the MGS4: Subatomic version or whatever Konami decide to call it :p
mcmonkeyplc
15/10/08 @ 08:32
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Your right I dont want it!
johnboy_johsnon
15/10/08 @ 08:33
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At this stage, now that all the hype has gone, I don't think many people really care anymore. Not a great game anyway.
Darren
15/10/08 @ 08:37
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Well MGS 4 is a very, very strong contender for my Game of the Year (GTA IV is a very close second) and probably will be if nothing better comes along between now and Christmas. And, no, I don't think Gears of War 2 will surpass it! Banjo-Kazooie: Nuts & Bolts maybe... ;) LOL

I really hope that it does come to the Xbox 360 so those owners can experience the game. It's a really, really wonderful game... I even enjoyed all the cutscenes, I didn't skip one, yet I found them often annoying in the earlier games, especially MGS 2. Maybe it's because the story and characters sucked me in completely this time round. I even completed the game, a first for an MGS title! :D

If it does come to the Xbox 360 though, I hope it's a better conversion than MGS 2 was on the Xbox where the rain at the start of the game caused some horrendous framerate issues...
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Ninja_Tino
15/10/08 @ 08:41
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A good game but didn't deserve all those 10s. The story was dissapointing - main problem! Decent gameplay though, Eurogamer hit it right with an 8. Still, well worth buying and couldn't they just fit it onto 3 or so disks and swap when you'd normally install? It's no Metal Gear Solid 3.
Darren
15/10/08 @ 08:42
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@Ryze - MGS 4 on the PS3 uses 33 GB of a 50 GB Blu-ray disc so unless all that data is uncompressed, I don't think it'll come on only 3 discs for the Xbox 360. An Xbox 360 DVD can only hold 7.2 GB of data so [gets calculator out] that's going to be more than 4 discs, i.e. 5. 5 discs would work well since there are 5 chapters so one chapter per disc with a disc swap inbetween, which ironically would work better anyway since it's quicker than a 4-5 minute HDD install. Also with the new NXE dashboard, it may be possible to install all 5 discs onto the 360's HDD and do away with disc swaps and installs between chapters completely. All speculative admittedly but I'm fairly sure that MGS 4 will come to the 360 sooner or later as it's too big a market for Konami to ignore.
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Dizzy
15/10/08 @ 08:47
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"I fuckin' love disc swapping, I finished it on PS3 but would happily buy it again for my 360 for the achievements "

??

Achievement Unlocked: Swapped disk 1 to disk 2

;)
Colin8703
15/10/08 @ 08:48
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I could see the game fitting on one DVD as all the cutscenes use the in game engine. The only time you get loads of disk space used up is for HD CG cutscenes. MGS 2 on the Xbox was on one disc and to say it can't technically be done is horse shit. The Xbox version could potentially be better as there will be acheivements and it'll be 1080p instead of 720p or whatever they did which is great.

Kojima is talking from his arse.
SpaceMidget75
15/10/08 @ 08:51
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Personally I'd only be interested in this if I had the chance to go back and finish 2 and play 3. Even then I don't have enough time (or a quiet house) to watch cutscenes that long. (Yes I went there.)

MSG fans are a hardcore lot who would buy a system just for it. So sales will be a bit of an unknown quantity.

And if anyone thinks this game can't be done on 360 to a similar level is a fucking idiot. You really are.
Hog-lumps
15/10/08 @ 08:53
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@ darren

Thats assuming it's not optimised for the 360 of course. I imagine with 50 GB of blu ray, as a developer you can afford to waste a lot of sace without worrying too much. So they may be able optimise the data a little to trim the amount down for the 360?
Darren
15/10/08 @ 09:00
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@Colin8703 - MGS 4 on the PS3 uses mostly real-time cutscenes. A few of the "busier" (i.e. polygon intensive) cinematics are pre-rendered though, mostly noticeably the one at the end of Chapter 3, the river attack. I only noticed these because I couldn't manipulate the camera and Snake wasn't wearing the customised outfit anymore as he does in all the real-time cutscenes. So I highly doubt that MGS 4 would fit on a single DVD or even two or three for that matter.

Also while the 360 version would support 1080p as every other 360 games does, it is unlikely to be 1080p native but simply upscaled. There are only a handful of native 1080p games on the 360 and PS3, although the latter system has more since Sony seem keen to push it more than Microsoft.

P.S. MGS 2 came on a single DVD for the PS2 so what's your point? There's a huge difference in graphical (texture) and audio quality between MGS 2 and MGS 4 you know and those are the things that use up valuable disc space? ;)
prolific8
15/10/08 @ 09:02
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MGSLOL: Guns of the P8riots.
Negotiator
15/10/08 @ 09:09
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Eurogamer you know better than most that MGS4 can be done on the 360, seeing as you do comparisons every month. As for the game I could care less if it comes to 360, and thats, that.
Shakey_Jake33
15/10/08 @ 09:17
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Disc swapping is no big deal if it's sensible. Resi REmake was hardly a worse game for it, for example.... and even the old Final Fantasy 4 discs was no big deal. It's only a problem if it becomes so frequent that it hinders the pace of the game (e.g. after every level), and we know it's not going to be like that.

I know most of the disc swapping digs are just tounge-in-cheek piss-takes, but if anyone's actually seriously bothered about it, lets look at it a little more rationally!
t8yman
15/10/08 @ 09:30
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wouldnt buy it anyway, i like to play games, not watch them.
Xerx3s
15/10/08 @ 09:32
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Meh, where are the heated fanboy arguments?!

Here, I'll give you something to work with: "5 second disc swapping between chapters > 20 minute waiting times".
farticusmaximus
15/10/08 @ 09:35
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"wouldnt buy it anyway, i like to play games, not watch them."

This.

I think those predicting a market for MGS on the 360 are forgetting that 360 owners are not used to sitting around staring at their console waiting to play something.
hiddenranbir
15/10/08 @ 09:36
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Lol
zoch
15/10/08 @ 09:54
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I think mgs4 is great game and should be game of the year! and eurogamer got it wrong should have been a 10 not an 8
also the game should be out on both the ps3 and 360 so nobody can miss out on great game!
BartonFink
15/10/08 @ 09:55
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Good grief there would not be enough waaaaaambulances for the fantards if this happened.
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15/10/08 @ 10:14
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@ DFawkes - I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who don't rate MGS highly enough to go out and buy a PS3, but who'd pick it up if it happens to be released on 360. As for your sales comment about xbox, I think it's a bit stupid tbh - how do sales of FIFA 09 compare on 360 to those of the FIFA xbox games? I think it's fair to say that 3rd party games are selling very well on 360, so why wouldn't Konami be interested?

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