Konami blames PS3 spec change for loss of PES6 online News

any good news??

I heard someone bought a PS3, somewhere. Just a rumour, though.

I think it was Jedimastermalik ;)

These are going to be like UFO sightings! ;)

The PSX-Files?


Sorry.

Well as of 8 am this morning my local game had sold 7 PS3's. Someone I know popped in to pick up STALKER so he asked them.
LOL

Oh so THAT's what a noticeable issue is.

And here I'm reading in forums and such that it could be game breaking.

@PearOfAnguish

I don't know if I should laugh or groan at that comment. Mebbe a bit of both?

Ouch!! Nice 1 Konami, first dev to say software emu is not as good as hardware. More will follow.

This is exactly the kind of silliness that Sony could have avoided if they'd have spent the little extra on hardware emu in Europe, until they could software emulate that stuff as well. Knee-jerk changes to save a little may in the end cost them more in bad PR and press than just not having made changes at all.

Didn't the hardware based B/C have the same issue?

I'm sure there was similar rumblings in Japan or was that HDD based games.

Can't EG write the news like they don't have an opinion? Let the people in forums and comment threads do the dirty work. EG should know better and act like proper journos. These opionated "news" articles are a joke. Write your opinions in reviews and colums!

"Proper journos" like them in the Daily Mail? No thanks. I'll take what we get here any day!

Also: Boo. Hiss. Down with this sort of thing.

Considering PES6 is so bad it's unplayable on the PS3 I think the lack of online play is the least of their worries.

Konami is very upset with Sony at this point in time, due to the lies Sony has said about the Playstation 3 and Sony's failure to sell well with the Playstation 3. This is why we will see Metal Gear Solid 4 for the Xbox 360, just like Devil May Cry 4 will be released for the Xbox 360 at the same time...and how Ace Combat 6 was announced only for the Xbox 360. That was cool!

Ace Combat 6 is made by Namco.

^ Yes and Namco are Japanese, so are Konami. Your point being? ;)

http://www.destructoid.com/ridge-racer-6...

Check this! Ridge Racer 6 (took Namco a few months to put together for 360) and a year + development for Ridge Racer 7 (Remember the PS3 was actually ready about a
year ago, thanks to Sony manufacturing delays, the date for PS3 was pushed back - though this gave game developments more time to get more out the PS3, as had full working PS3 kits back in 2005 for)

ok

would make sense for PES to be ported to the PS3 with online play.. unless the online side is a nightmare in which case just the standard part of the 360 game.

So we are back to talking about the "better online play" on the 360 with no mention that it costs USD50 a year. Or USD200 over its 4-year life.
So essentially 2 ways of comparing
1. ZERO online play on 360 versus free online for many titles on PS3
OR
2. 360, at the SAME COST with online play, has:
multiplayer for 2-3 games extra (like Virtua Tennis 3) BUT also far less hard drive space (12GB), no HDMI, no HD, no wifi

And since we are talking of backward compatibility, I heard PS3 already has 1000+ (and likely to grow). Could anyone remind me the figure for 360 please?

The PS3 has officially crash landed in Europe.

Could it have expected a better outcome?

It's more expensive in Europe than the rest of the world.
It cannot play all PS2 games like the rest of the world can.
It cannot play Europe's most important PS2 game properly, and not at all online, whilst the 360 can (PES6).
It cannot play the best PS3 sports game online, while the 360 can (VT3).
etc etc...

There are reasons to want a 360, Wii, DS, PS2...

I can see not a single reason to want a PS3.

it actually costs £30 a year more in electricity to power the PS3, so there is LIVE paid for.............

true, i will find a link !

it actually costs £30 a year more in electricity to power the PS3, so there is LIVE paid for.............

true, i will find a link !

If you were to use the 2 machines for the same amount of time, you would have to use them for 91 hours per day (impossible), for the xbox360 to be £30 a year cheaper to power!!

Xbox360 uses ave. 185watts
PS3 uses ave. 194watts

9watt difference

for 9watts to = £30 per year, usage must equall 91 hours per day!!

edit: link added http://www.hardcoreware.net/reviews/review-356-2.htm

if you are clever, like me, live! only costs £4 for the year.

explains why i couldnt find the link .......

:o(

i only paid £19.99 this years LIVE subs.........not too bad

"And since we are talking of backward compatibility, I heard PS3 already has 1000+ (and likely to grow). Could anyone remind me the figure for 360 please?"

If you buy that figure then you're rather gullible. I think with all regional variants on the list the current list of games that can run on a PS3 settles around the 50% mark. Which is certainly not bad...

... but the X-Box only had a few great games that people would have cared about. The PS3 currently has dozens of great titles like FFXII and Okami etc. that run with "Noticable issues" - i.e. consider not bothering at all. Not to mention classic titles not working and even PS1 games that worked fine on PS2 software emulation not working.

X-Box 360 was a bit weak but at least it had some damage limitation in the simple fact that it really didn't need a huge amount of backwards compatability. PS3, sadly, isn't that lucky - with an extensive range of popular PS2 titles and indeed, cult classics from days gone by. The fact that the majority don't work or work with "Noticable Issues" is quite a problem for Sony... the reality that some of the more recent titles that are doing quite well for themselves fall into this bracket is, in my eyes, a bit of a travesty...

"So we are back to talking about the "better online play" on the 360 with no mention that it costs USD50 a year. Or USD200 over its 4-year life.
So essentially 2 ways of comparing
1. ZERO online play on 360 versus free online for many titles on PS3
OR
2. 360, at the SAME COST with online play, has:
multiplayer for 2-3 games extra (like Virtua Tennis 3) BUT also far less hard drive space (12GB), no HDMI, no HD, no wifi "

Msamik, you're missing the point.

Yes, the PS3 is a really great value bundle IF YOU WANT EVERYTHING IN THE BUNDLE.

The problem for Sony is that most people don't want everything in the bundle.

Most gamers only want a games console, but Sony is forcing them to pay twice the price of their rivals for stuff that most of them don't want.

I don't have an HDTV so blu-ray and HDMI are completely useless for me, and I also very rarely play games online. If I buy a PS3 I'm being forced to pay £200 extra for things I either don't want or can't use.

At least with the 360 you can just buy the console without being forced into buying online or the HD DVD drive.

By the way, I'm in the majority. Most people don't play online and most people don't have HDTVs. That will probably change in the future, but it's likely that most people still won't have HDTVs by the time the PS3 is being replaced by the PS4 in five years time.

"And since we are talking of backward compatibility, I heard PS3 already has 1000+ (and likely to grow)."

So, I take it, you are not actually bothered that PS3 owners over the Atlantic or in Japan currently have 98% success on backwards compatibility, while Europeans have to settle for 1000+ games, many of which with noticable issues?

Answer on a postcard please...

@ chupachups

I agree with what you are saying - I DO have a hdtv and I DO play online, but I know most people dont and fully appreciate that not everyone can afford to or wants to - I still get really annoyed that it is assumed that everyone nowadays MUST have access to the internet, especially as far as the whole downloadable content and online updates/patches are concerned. In view of this, I am also adverse to the concept of paying for things included in the package that you dont want or cant use.

I have a 360 and an HDDVD drive and at the moment, there is nothing on the PS3 that interests me games-wise (apart from maybe Resistance, but then I still have a FEAR and Rainbow Six yet to play on my 360 so I will wade my way through those first) and none of the movies I watch are likely to come out on Blue-Ray for a looooong time (if ever) so I have no immediate need for one.

I was in my local GAME today, and had a quick browse over the PS3 games and within about 10 seconds a member of staff came running over trying to sell me one. They blatantly had several consoles left in stock as they were piled up behind the counter.

Also, we have a "sony centre" in our town, and it was shut today, which I thought was a bit odd 2 days after the PS3 launch, and there was no mention or advertisement for it of any kind in their window. VERY odd situation in my opinion.