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Killzone 2 Multiplayer Beta Comments by Dan Whitehead

13 November, 2008

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quantumsheep
13/11/08 @ 16:01
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:O
the_dudefather
13/11/08 @ 16:02
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sounds good, like the idea of quick kills rather than soaking up damage and recovering seconds later

hope the ps3 pad can cope well
SPKRFCKR
13/11/08 @ 16:05
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I cant wait for this!!!
dr_faulk
13/11/08 @ 16:11
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I really liked the first Killzone!
mcbi4kh2
13/11/08 @ 16:11
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There is a recharging health system, but it rarely gets the chance to do its thing because the default weapons are so brutally accurate and devastatingly effective. Ammo and replacement weapons, however, are virtually non-existent. If you prefer the sort of shooter where you can stand in the open and soak up damage, while rifles and rocket launchers are scattered about the place like used bus tickets, then Killzone 2 won't be for you.

Awesome, just sold it to me. That resistance video from the other week where that guy spent half an hour shooting the alien before it died really isn't for me. This sounds more like a mix of CS and Battlefield.
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Widge
13/11/08 @ 16:12
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If this turns out to be a bit more like DOD:S rather than UT3... I'm going to be WELL happy. Many a good age scrapping away on top maps, trying to push the front line forwards, getting nailed but also getting the excitement of breaking through the front line.

If you're about Dan, what have you preferred playing in multiplayer so far, the Killzone 2 beta or Resistance 2?
HardCoreGamer999
13/11/08 @ 16:16
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this should be more than good. If you consider the time they have spend on this game there is simply no option for failure. Average gamescore below 8.8 is considered as a FAIL for kz2
Anyway i hope they didn't spend to much time on graphics over gameplay.
Vanmunt
13/11/08 @ 16:25
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Would of liked something along the lines of the amazing 'Horde' from GOW2, because personally I am bored shitless just shooting people online.
patchbox360
13/11/08 @ 16:27
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'unforgiving gameplay that hardened FPS addicts will favour' - yes

come on sony, there is still a little time to win me back
onyxbox
13/11/08 @ 16:27
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looking good... can't wait.

I hope it plays like CS.
mazzl
13/11/08 @ 16:28
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this is the first time that i actually say wow to kz2, this reads really well, the only question i have is, with the grey visual and the accurate and deadly shots, is it easy to "pick" players out of the surroundings or are you often shot down by an invisible opponent hiding in the grey background?
Widge
13/11/08 @ 16:29
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If you want Horde style action, you gotta hit Resistance 2 really...
Or Left4Dead I suppose. Thats just plain great!
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Zappa
13/11/08 @ 16:29
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K2 multiplayer craps on gears2 single player it looks that good.
Widge
13/11/08 @ 16:30
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oop, one poster down in this thread now!
ps3owner
13/11/08 @ 16:30
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I can't stop playing FO3... maybe this will get me off it ;)

I've dropped COD 4 completely since FO3.
ps3owner
13/11/08 @ 16:31
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hey mazzl, look out for the red eyes in the dark. I am sure you won't miss them ;)
Vanmunt
13/11/08 @ 16:34
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@widge

It is just nice that GOW2 has tried something different, and being a mmo type player it really appeals to me.. capture flag, deathmatch et al is just generic and dull.

*not impressed with left for dead, however after just activating my gold account after a year of online ps3 gaming all I can say is 'you get what you pay for'.
kinky_mong
13/11/08 @ 16:35
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This means that every player starts the game as a classless grunt, with no auxiliary abilities and a choice of just two rifles and two pistols.

So latecomers will have to grind out loads of games where the opposition shits all over them. This is exactly what put me off CoD4. No sale.
Moonprince
13/11/08 @ 16:40
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"So latecomers will have to grind out loads of games where the opposition shits all over them."

Didn't read the article, did we?..
DanWhitehead
13/11/08 @ 16:40
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If you're about Dan, what have you preferred playing in multiplayer so far, the Killzone 2 beta or Resistance 2?

I'd say Resistance 2 is more fun, but Killzone is more satisfying. If that makes sense.
Apologie
13/11/08 @ 16:43
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Killzone 2 will be the best shooter eva on a console and will ship PS3's like crazyyy... FACT.
chessboxer
13/11/08 @ 16:44
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I've been in both betas for Killzone 2 and I'm very happy with the game but it can be unforgiving at times. Some of the effects are really good. This is really taking FPS games back to basics, like the good old days of UT99 where you had to survive on reflex reactions but it also adds an element of tactical play.

I couldn't stand COD4 but this has been one of my most played games recently. With next week off work, I'll be putting more time into this beta.
evilfoxhound
13/11/08 @ 16:45
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I hope for the developers sake that Killzone 2 is nothing but perfect. They have had so long to perfect it that PS3 fans will crucify them if it isn't lol (Quite rightly too).
Widge
13/11/08 @ 16:49
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@Vanmunt

ah yeah, thats why I suggest Resistance 2. By all reports, the co-op on that is about as MMOish as you want. Tanks absorbing attacks and damage, medics doing healing, spec ops doing support.
DaemonB
13/11/08 @ 16:50
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"Where it perhaps struggles a tad is in its adherence to a savage style of play that has come to seem old fashioned in recent years."

Yet Halo3 get 10/10. Yeah....right...

Still it was a decent write up, hope GG pulls it off.
crispyduckman
13/11/08 @ 16:51
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Looking forward to this as I haven't really played much multiplayer on my PS3.

One question: do people use headsets? It bugs me when people don't use comms. I know you can use any bluetooth set with the PS3, but do most people actually set theirs up to use one?
chessboxer
13/11/08 @ 16:52
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@ mazzl

I would say that you will find yourself getting killed a lot by someone you think is your team mate but is actually a sabotageing or cloaked bastard. If your character hasn't leveled up a bit then you can die from very few shots, or you can pretty much unload your weapon into someone and they may not die.

One thing I hope gets sorted out is some of the late death animations. At close range someone can kill you, then you see them die from one of your bullets a few seconds later. I don't know if hit detection is server or client side.
warbo
13/11/08 @ 16:53
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Zappa,

Overall KZ2 is as impressive as anything on consoles, but it certainly doesn’t “shit on Gears 2”.
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Widge
13/11/08 @ 16:53
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As soon as it comes out, I'm grabbing the official headset.
chessboxer
13/11/08 @ 16:59
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@ crispyduckman

In game you can only talk to your squad (like in Bad Company). If you're not in a squad then you can't hear anyone speak. The lobby is free-for-all chat but hopefully PS3 owners will get the Official PS3 headset. Ł17.99 on Play.com and it is an excellent mic.
Fixxxer
13/11/08 @ 17:00
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Grey, grey, grey.

Why can't somebody make a shooter based in the Mushroom Kingdom or something?

kangarootoo
13/11/08 @ 17:00
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"Awesome, just sold it to me. That resistance video from the other week where that guy spent half an hour shooting the alien before it died really isn't for me"

Me too. I've always like the Doom grunt model. A decent shotgun blast (or maybe two) will put down most enemies, but there are piles of enemies to keep the challenge up. The bullet socking enemies in Resistance were one of its lower points for me.
kangarootoo
13/11/08 @ 17:02
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"In game you can only talk to your squad (like in Bad Company). If you're not in a squad then you can't hear anyone speak"

There have been a few games (Ghost Recon maybe, and one of the Splinter Cell games?) where only your team could hear you speaking all the time, but enemies could hear individual opponents in surround sound if they were standing close enough to them as they talked.

I always thought that was an awesome idea and much underused.
chessboxer
13/11/08 @ 17:15
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The bullet socking enemies in Resistance were one of its lower points for me.

Because killing a 20 - 30 foot monster with a single shotgun blast would be more satisfactory?

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That's quite cool. I remember in CS: Condition Zero if the game goes down to 1 vs 1, if you're close by you can hear your opponents heart beat.
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trebell
13/11/08 @ 17:29
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"If you want Horde style action, you gotta hit Resistance 2 really...
Or Left4Dead I suppose. Thats just plain great! "

or Horde in Gears
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Petulant_Radish
13/11/08 @ 17:29
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“There have been a few games (Ghost Recon maybe, and one of the Splinter Cell games?) where only your team could hear you speaking all the time, but enemies could hear individual opponents in surround sound if they were standing close enough to them as they talked.

I always thought that was an awesome idea and much underused.”

Halo 3 has that if you turn the setting on, or it might just happen, that is if you’re not on a private chat to block out all the annoying fools that is. KZ is looking very, very good. I’ll be looking forward to playing this, those explosions look very pretty as well, I would have thought I’ll get killed a few times whilst starting at their inimitable beauty…
trebell
13/11/08 @ 17:30
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"K2 multiplayer craps on gears2 single player it looks that good. "

Nonsense. animationand Lighting great but in a numb rof other areas less so , such as textures, frame rate etc. Far from crapping on it. Both look great.
zuljin
13/11/08 @ 17:31
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"Radec Academy is the smallest, and most traditional, of the trio."

Jeez guys, did you even play the game?

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"(which can be revived within ten seconds by a medic)"
Erm... You can revive someone whenever you like. Whether its 1 second after being shot, or half an hour.

EDIT 2: chessboxer
Thats also not true...
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Gazza_UK
13/11/08 @ 17:38
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@ zuljin

is English your first language?
zuljin
13/11/08 @ 17:39
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@Gazza_UK
No its not, but feel free to point out anything obvious, as that would probably get the point accross quicker... ;)
Gazza_UK
13/11/08 @ 17:42
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lol i didnt actually expect to say no! .. its only that your taking what thier saying out of context.
zuljin
13/11/08 @ 17:45
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Heehee :p

Sorry guess I wasn't clear in my criticisms:
1. Blood Gracht is the smallest map - by far!
2. You can writhe on the floor indefinately
3. Voice comms works (almost) as Kanga described. Your squad hears you, and anyone close.
kangarootoo
13/11/08 @ 17:47
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@chessboxer

"Because killing a 20 - 30 foot monster with a single shotgun blast would be more satisfactory?"

That is why I mentioned Doom grunts, rather than just Doom. Tough boss battles are cool, but the common garden scrapping loses its pace imo if every enemy is quite tough.


Re the chat option stuff, a friend of mine who is on the beta was just telling me that something similar to what I describe is actually in KZ2 (added recently, but not present when the beta started). You have 4 man squads, who can hear each other all the time, but other players including enemies can hear you when you are close by.

Sounds nice, and introduces a level of tactics insofar as you need to remember to avoid bleating out info to your buddies that might give them away whilst enemies are near by ("I've just been killed; they are coming up the stairs" might imply to your enemy where your squad mates are, or at the very least inform the enemy that their presence is known by those still standing).
colliehany
13/11/08 @ 18:00
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well i wouldn't say the beta "craps on gears 2 single player" but i do think it looks better...
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13/11/08 @ 18:11
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"but it can also lead to awkward balancing problems since it automatically favours those playing defence."

As it should be TBH. Attacking is risk taking by default.

Looking forward to this. The aesthetic is beautiful, as in the first game. If this time the engine can actually cope with the action, it's a must-buy for me.
RedSparrows
13/11/08 @ 18:19
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"Where it perhaps struggles a tad is in its adherence to a savage style of play that has come to seem old fashioned in recent years."

Yet Halo3 get 10/10. Yeah....right...

Still it was a decent write up, hope GG pulls it off.

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'Savage'? By the sounds of it, this seems far more like CoD4/Rainbow Six than Halo 3, which is consistently (and uselessly, in my view, seeing as I love the Halo style) slated as being 'bunny hopping bullet spongez lol OMG NOT REALISTIC'. I don't think Halo is the point of reference here....
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13/11/08 @ 18:38
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"well i wouldn't say the beta "craps on gears 2 single player" but i do think it looks better... "

certainly not alone in saying that, going by the beta.
DaemonB
13/11/08 @ 18:41
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RedSparrows yea that was a bad comparison. Still this type of gameplay might weed out the kids who love halo bunny hopping :P
Vic
13/11/08 @ 18:54
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Sounds awesome. Looks like its gonna take console shooters to a whole new level technically, the graphics and effects are amazing.

I think its style will compliment Resistance 2 and COD 4 nicely.
GamerG
13/11/08 @ 18:54
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Make it simple Sony if you want the masses..

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