Kamiya wants to "exceed" God of War Comments by Tom Bramwell
Starts by getting into a fight with Itagaki.
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ParanoidZombie
01/09/08 @ 08:06
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Agreed that GOW (1, not 2) has the best background/plot/atmosphere, but ninja gaiden's gameplay is just 1000 times better. And i'll choose gameplay over atmo/plot any day.
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DMC wins in style, bravado, and bosses. GoW wins in making everything you do look fantastic, for a very little effort, and combining that with a smooth flow, and progression - THAT game is the middle ground - NG wins...It's the equivalent of an MMO grind. I'm not sure how, specifically, it wins, but it is enjoyable to play (I've played NG/Black/Sigma).
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""I've never played Ninja Gaiden, and to be honest, I'm not that interested,"
How does he know he wouldn't be interested if he hasn't played it. The very nature of that statement screams professional jealousy on his part. The technical complexity of Ninja Gaiden and its highly respected hardcore position elevates it over the competition. In all honesty I prefer the POP series to DMC, I just don't view it as anything spectacular. GOW likewise is a very POP inspired title (I'm being polite in saying it that way). Easier for Kamiya to pick the easier title to exceed and try to run down the classical action title (remember it had earlier 2D origins than DMC) especially when, with the loss of the Ninja Gaiden team and Itagaki, a NG successor is likely to be detrimentally affected. |
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"'GOW likewise is a very POP inspired title'
Irony of ironies, is the last POP game - The Two Thrones tried to emulate GOW with its quick time button pushes, which felt out of place in a POP game. It'll be good for the game through if the bar is set so high " lol Emulating GOW or SHENMUE, the true originator of QTEs. Yes they're all just the illegitimate children of daddy Shenmue and mummy Soul Reaver. :P |
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Who's copying who?
Right everyone get your caps on and start thinking of the earliest games where we first saw the individual distinctive features of these games. We will find the true original game if we all think hard enough. lol Actually, QTEs maybe shouldn't be credited to Shenmue. afterall, Dragon's Lair was infuriating us for many a year prior to Shenmue.
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most recently on 01/09/08 @ 15:07
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Never mind all this hardc0re nonesense - as much as I enjoyed the first Ninja Gaiden on Xbox, I don't think anyone can argue that the original God of War wasn't more fun to play. It's certainly more enjoyable than Ninja Gaiden 2, which was just about the worst example of trolling your own fans I've ever had the misfortune to play.
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BillyBrush
04/09/08 @ 16:26
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@MattyD
NG2 was excellent imo, personally i don't think God of war even touches the combat, maybe it beats something like Onimusha but NG2 is on another level than those, the only one imo that compares is the first, and that's very slow feeling compared to 2 now...not sure what you were playing but the combat is just insanely responsive, fast, and brutal...he didn't troll any fans, he improved the fighting and fight coreography to a level that will be extremely hard to top... |
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Artistically, Kamiya operates on an entirely different level than Itagaki. He is a true author with titles like Resident Evil 2, Devil May Cry, Viewtiful Joe and Okami under his belt. All classics and each representing a different genre as well.
I like Ninja Gaiden (II) a lot (though the sequel is a step back in quite a few ways and is plagued by technical hiccups), but in no ways does it have more depth than DMC. Watch the combo vids of really good players, it really is the Street Fighter II of the third person action genre. DMC (Kamiya wasn't involved in any of the sequels) was innovative at the time with its air combo's and juggles, so I can't wait to see where he takes Bayonetta. Early reports are certainly promising.
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Notwhollysane
08/09/08 @ 15:07
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GOW = mash buttons and then play a game of simon to finish off your opponent. DMC = try to get the combo meter up because the enemy AI isn't smart enough to present a challenge on it's own. NGB = Challenging enemies that are fast, button mashing gets you killed, badass ultimate attacks, crazy bosses, crazy weapon variety, etc.
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