Jasper Xbox 360 to conquer Red Rings? News

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I HAVE 22 XBOXEN AND THEY ALL WENT RROD! THE LAST 5 WHERE THOSE NEW ONES!

"It's not yet known how you will be able to distinguish a Jasper 360 from its predecessors without ripping it open"

Er yes it is, research much? It's on your own forum in case you where wondering...

Stupid... unless they've literally removed the error light functionality then machines will still get RRoD. It's just the code for the general hardware failure.

Make it really fecking obvious that it's a new breed on the box and I might buy number 5. Might.

Just read Xerx's post. Erm, second thoughts, no thanks.

Don't assume that you'll get the new version though:
I bought a 360 Halo 3 bundle 3 months after the release of the Falcon version and it still was the old model. So far no RRoD *knocks on wood*, but if it would RRoD, I'd never buy a MS console again.

You won't get a RROD with the Jasper chipset; now you’ll get a carrot coloured orange glow.

My euro launchday 360 finally got the RROD last night. Great timing, about a week after the warranty was up.

My launch day Xbox is still fine, so far. However it's good to see that when / if my current one does die I should, hopefully, be getting a nice new one.

The other positive of this is that the next console MS releases SHOULD be much more reliable. A baptism of fire for MS might be good for them, at least they'll test it in extreme conditions more next time :P.

But it wasn't really a baptism was it? The original Xbox was far more reliable. Mine is still going strong serving as the kids DVD player! Wouldn't dare let them use the 360 for the same purpose - I treat mine with extreme care and yet I find myself on No. 6. >:(

I will definitely be part-exing my horrendously noisy Premium for a bona-fide Jasper as soon as I can.

Yes we can recognise the boxes -- batch number/team/manufacture date and whether it lists 256MB onboard -- but where do we find them?

After years of high-end PC gaming, with Wii for the kids, I've decided to take the console plunge and have opted for 360 over PS3; but I've been waiting for the Jasper model for months.

Who turns over the most consoles in the UK -- I'm thinking they will get newer inventory first -- it's obviously not Woolies, but is it physical retail (e.g. Game) or is it online merchants (e.g. Play)?

Monkeys may fly out of Takahashi's butt.

So how many hardcore users will sell their current model and buy this instead?

Not sure about this news report... doesnt help when you see this The graphics chip will likely consume less power

"likely" that suggests someone making "Maybe" suggestions as in they dont really know.. not accurate reporting is it.

I would have probably got an Xbox by now... but not until I feel comfortable with the fact the hardware isnt going to go belly up on me. I hate things breaking and reliability is something that is a must for me. Perhaps I'm becomming a grumpy old man, but I certainly would not have put up with 4, 8 or more going wrong. I just cant stand messing around sending things back and forth to get repaired (I got very angry when my broadband goes down for a day @_@.

Anyway I hope they do solve it, but believe it when i see it. Certainly wont buy one until I could be sure of getting a Jasper and not an old style one.

"It may or may not fix the problem." I wish I was a blogger, then I could make money by saying nothing too.

was anybody under the impression that the americans made good quality goods? all their industries went to shit...

I do find it hard to believe anybody can ahve got through so many consoles, I had a release day console and as expected it died.

I got a replacement and all has been fine since, I would say mine probably gets used well within the averages.

Maybe its just PS3 fanboys who have never owned a 360? so Maybe I should say I am on my 25th PS3 just to balance the equation?

Ok I admit it I have never owned a PS3...

I don't think anyone can argue that in terms of hardware component quality, the 360 is the ropiest games console and one of the worst home electronics products in history.

However, that people continually buy replacements is testament to the quality of the machine itself and its games. Personally, I'm on no. 3.

im on my 2nd xbox, but only coz i traded the 1st toward my ps3. bf2mc was and still is the main reason why i got another one. just love that game. gears of yawn and gaylol3 were not on my radar im afraid (tried gow1 and traded it not long after). my first one was on its last legs i felt. my 2nd, although just over a year old, its not a hdmi model, and i wont install, tried bf2 but the drive really made a lot of noise so cancelled it out of fear of drive failure. but as someone else says, if it rrods i wont replace, just out of sheer anger that its a badly designed piece of electronics and should have been better designed like the ps3 is with its turbine.

jonsaan lol... ok what he was getting at is people are incorrectly identifying "The RROD" with an overheating/bad chip error... when thats not true at all, theres alot that can go wrong with all the current gen consoles(look around the forums plenty of PS3s break too "OMG teh peice of shit!"), RROD is a general error flag to show that somethings gone wrong, it doesnt tell the repair centre exactly what that is on its own.

The majority of the RRODs were due to overheating for a long time but with the Falcon and now Jasper it's looking more likely that majority of RRODs(which will be far fewer to begin with) will be because of something else entirely. No doubt the FUD will continue as fanboys worry about the impact a more reliable(and already currently outselling PS3) 360 will have on the PS3's "bright future".

edit: Doh confused Xerx3s with Psychotext there... sorry for the confusion.

"Just read Xerx's post. Erm, second thoughts, no thanks. "

You do realise that it was tongue in cheek right? ;)

"lol by the time RROD is fixed (if ever) ... a new xbox will be launched. Glad I got a ps3 ...I can play it in the middle of a saharan desert and it still wont overheat."

Yeah but that's because of other reasons.

@evilfoxhound, obviously any hardware can fail and I am sure there are some PS3's that do, but when you look at E.G's website 99% are Xbox failures (and usually people have multiple failures). As people are already aware the failure rate is very high in comparrison.. too high for me right now.

Zero_Cool you can pretty much bet all of it has moved over to China now(happens in most generations... starts off in multiple countries ends up in the cheapest as they drive costs down)... use your head.

360 > PS3 where it counts.

Zero_Cool lol dont cry about it... I know a damn sight more than you about both these consoles, I'd bet money on that.

You know MS must be doing something right when you get reactions like this from Sony fanboys, smell that fear lol.

Zero_Cool do you not realise how obvious your game is?

Im pretty sure nobody is going to avoid the 360 based off any amount of FUD you pathetically try and conjure up to defend your favoured corporation, anyone who does come here is likely already a gamer and probably knows more than you do about it to begin with.

Your stupidity is approaching amusing now, still slightly annoying mind you.

Do you get a special badge when you achieve your level of fuckwitedness zero?

Zero%Cool more like... :/

@Calgon, your not helping the situation... with your Xbox > PS3 comments. Its pretty apparent to anyone with common sense that there are things for and against each machine. All you do is make yourself look like a fanboy and goad the Ps3 fanboys into saying how crap the Xbox is... thereby creating a stupid situation of claim and counter claim :(

I have an original XBOX360, which I bought one month after they released the console. I play it every day and must have had it for approaching 1000 + hours of game time now - Never had a RROD, the console plays perfectly - so am I in the minority?

I always have kept the XBOX on the glass shelf underneath the TV, never on carpet.

RRoD is a serious problem but *way* overhyped by vested interests. I have a number of 360-owning friends and I only know one (launch-day machine) that has had a RRoD so far. I honestly wonder what the people who claim to have gone through 5-10 machines are actually doing with them. No machine should be as prone to overheating as the 360 is, but still, with those odds every one of my friends should have had a RRoD by now if that's 'normal'. Maybe we've just been lucky.

Really, they could have done with a proper hardware revision rather than a minor tweak and die shrink.

A svelte, quiet, reliable Xbox SKU would do wonders in the marketplace.

makeamazing: @Calgon, your not helping the situation... with your Xbox > PS3 comments. Its pretty apparent to anyone with common sense that there are things for and against each machine.

That statement was in response to the one he made before it and it still doesn't imply that there aren't things for and against either machine.

Also this is the 360 board, has it gotten so bad that you can't state you think the 360 is better than the PS3 on its own board without upsetting the PS3 fanboys? What has become of EG, it's been ruined because the Sonybots want to control everything it seems, when they can't they kick and scream.

"lol by the time RROD is fixed (if ever) ... a new xbox will be launched. Glad I got a ps3 ...I can play it in the middle of a saharan desert and it still wont overheat. "

'Enjoy'.

Bitkari you mean a new look slimmer model? Id expect that in a year or more's time(might be two considering how long they took with Jasper) when they integrate the CPU and GPU... I dont know if that would be worth waiting for though.

As far as the internals go I dont know how much more they could change, they could use quieter fans IMO(but I admit I dont know what the cost woud be for totally quiet ones, maybe its unreasonable to expect for the selling price) and DVD drives if they exist at those speeds. They could atleast attempt noise reduction now its cooler though, there are materials out there that are relatively inexpensive, that could improve that.

@Calgon its all about context... I'm not saying you cant like your Xbox in a Xbox thread, but this is a general news item about the Xbox, doesnt mean that its locked out to everyone else... hey Ive already said there are many PS3 idiots too. But it does seem that its worse on PS3 threads than Xbox ones (Destroy all humans being one).

If you are comfortable with the machine you've got you dont need to get into mine is better than your's type conversations... but lets be honest, none of the current crop of machines are perfect by any means.

this is a general news item about the Xbox, doesnt mean that its locked out to everyone else

It should be to to the PS3 trolls though, why you are even trying to argue against that I dont know and before you try and spin it Zero_Cool was blatantly trolling.

makeamazing no Im sorry my arguement has always been with the trolling... Ive always said be happy in your own communities with your own opinions at the very least if you are not ready to behave in way that wont end in arguement for arguements sake.

Good news then I hope, was going to get me a new box in the new year cos mine has been playing up for a while (and scratched my Forza disc randomly). I'll make sure I get the newest and best update of this hardware line whenever I do but my new Xbox. it seems like a very bad thing that I'll have needed to own 2 consoles to get the best of this generation, but I remember my DC playing up and getting a second one, cos what the hell, I needed it. Same with PS2's, plenty of people went through at least one or more cos it kept dying. Also, my great headphones I've had for a couple of years are now beginning to show some wear and tear and might stop working soon, so I'll buy a new one of those

It's not nice when things fuck up and the 360 has definitely been worse than many other pieces of consumer tech (although how many phones fuck up after a while, purely they get run into the ground, keypads stop working, OS gets buggy and overloaded.. it's not a new thing people buying replacements for something they already have cos it stops working at it's peak).

But I digress, I'm looking forward to getting a nice shiny new Xbox again, and I'd be happier with a replacement of my Xbox than a brand spanking new PS3 to be completely honest, I really would, I love my Xbox which is why I shall buy a newer, better functioning one. MS have done good on everything minus some serious hardware glitches, but overall their offering, to me at least, is far more compelling than either of the two competitors they are facing, and the hardware faults can be blamed at their rushing to the market first, but so what, everything else they've done has been pretty successful and I love the 360, long may it and MS's good run continue. I want Sony to perish from their continued over confidence and they're doing a good job of achieving that.

From a bitter Sega Saturn and Dreamcast fan loving the relative downturn in Sony's fortunes, muahaha. Revenge is sweet :p Proves the saying 'what goes around comes around'.

"The xbox is made in china. And do you know what else is? The PS3.

I find it interesting that the press never pick up on the PS3's Drive Death. I've had it twice and know a fair ammount of other people who have had it. Yet people never seem to bring it up."

i wasnt talking exclusively about consoles. but im sure the yanks had a major hand in the design of the product?
plus spare me the defensive fanboy routine i couldnt be bothered listening to your shit.
i should have been more clear to avoid confusion though... in hindsight.

just read your earlier post complaining about "retards" leaving their consoles on for days. why do you give a fuck about what they do? will a few more RROD xboxes shatter that glass house that your in?

kill yourself EMO!

I own both a PS3 and xbox360..

Basically my PS3 rarely gets used as all of the big games that come out are consistently better looking on the XBOX. GTA4, Fallout to name just two titles that I have opted to buy in XBOX before 360 (the games are also cheaper) £29 for fable in Asda! STII HD Remix - also got this on the XBOX as quite simply, that's where most my mates are.

Overall, I'm disappointed in my PS3 - It definitely has not turned out to be the console I had hoped it would. I expected to be utterly spoiled for choice with AAA games that offered an experience better than anything else available on other formats. That has not been the case, and as time goes by I doubt it ever will.

I hope Sony leans from it's mistakes in time or the next round, but I get a definite feeling that Microsoft is becoming a dominant force in the online console world - it's XBOX live is just so much more "live" than the detatched feeling I get everytime I use the PS3.

All I have to look forward to on the PS3 now is FFXIII which will probably turn out better on the PS3 as it has been designed for that system all along. It will be a HUGE shock if that title also proves to be better graphically on XBOX360 when it is launched, and will just about confirm my decision to get the PS3 on eBay.

first off marron, go fuck yourself.

Sony POS.

@Velios

don't forget about FFXIIIversus if you want the full package...

I got the RRoD here the other day, again. This is the fourth Xbox that has died on me. But it's over two years since last time.

The article says 52 comments.. I see 40. the trolls came out to feed then?

"It's not yet known how you will be able to distinguish a Jasper 360 from its predecessors without ripping it open"

The power supply is 150w just look on the box...

^^

Well ive had two RROD but ive only bought one as its replaced for free

Ive also had my PS3 die on me (drive error)

Had never seen it in the flesh until today - My mate's near euro launch model one went titsup!! Not nice.

"The power supply is 150w just look on the box... "

I'm not sure that's the case - I've read that the contents listing on the back simply says "256MB" rather than "256MB included" for the Arcade SKU - that's American packaging of course, no idea if that's different here ...

What kind of name is Jasper anyway? Couldn't it be called something cooler? Like Ted??

It occurs to me - wasn't Falcon supposed to 'cure the RROD'? Until it actually hit the shelves and people started having it with that too. Seems to be experience would suggest at least waiting until there's a significant number of the new revision out there being played with before announcing the problem is fixed.

The thing about the RROD was never that it was a particularly unusual problem, just that it had an unusual frequency of occurrence. If they can get the failure rate down to comparable levels to other consumer electronics (say less than 5%) then fair enough but I doubt you'll ever get it to go away entirely.

Jon