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Final Fantasy XII Comments by Luke Albiges

18 April, 2006

'Final' for this generation, at least.

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York
18/04/06 @ 11:46
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Unexpected review, but hey, great score!

(Too scared to read the main review text).
smelly
18/04/06 @ 11:48
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Dammit! Let me finish oblivion, then dq8 then zelda before releasing this!!!
ecureuil
18/04/06 @ 11:48
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Didn't see this one coming.

9/10 thoroughly expected, though.
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18/04/06 @ 11:50
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Always considered the late final fantasy games to have slightly eccentric designs for their main characters.

Almost so much that it steals a bit of the charm just because they look so extravagant while fighting monsters. Almost like there is too much focus on the style and not on the substance underneath and then when they do focus on the substance they do it with style so it becomes a needlessly complex mess.

Well that was FFX. This might be better and well reading the review it sort of does sound like it.
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Talha
18/04/06 @ 11:52
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That good? Looks like I will be coaxed into playing my second RPG ever... What the world is coming to...
Cosmopolitan
18/04/06 @ 11:52
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Is that the main protagonist on that picture? Gay-looking characters FTW.
moore25
18/04/06 @ 11:53
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Is it me, or are EG's reviews getting a little too short? I know that Luke Albiges used to write for GamesTM but here on the good old interweb you don't have to worry about running out of page space.

Make 'em longer, EG.
Dizzy
18/04/06 @ 12:00
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>Gay-looking characters FTW

Welcome to FF. Where you play an emo teenager, a cross dressing weirdo or a cute fluffy animal :) or sometimes even the three combined.

Tried this a bit in japan and it looks like it will be well worth it for the FF fan so that 9 will be about right. In my case the game just makes me puke. -5 if you hate JRPG cliches!
statix101
18/04/06 @ 12:00
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does this run in Squaresofts usual PAL 50hz squash 'o' vision ?......
Inigo
18/04/06 @ 12:01
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I got really excited for a second, can't wait to play this. After playing oblivion i realise how much i miss a really strong story and npcs.
smelly
18/04/06 @ 12:04
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After playing oblivion i realise how much i miss a really strong story and npcs.

Which is why im looking forward to DQ8 after oblivion, then zelda after that, then FFXII after that.

Should take me to the end of the year i think.
lemonfist
18/04/06 @ 12:09
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The main character is ghey! LOLZ etc.

RedPanda
18/04/06 @ 12:10
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Do monsters still 'appear' out of nowhere for a bit of a random fracas?

Because that really does kill any immersion I get from these kind of games.
wanksta10
18/04/06 @ 12:11
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DQ8 is bloody awesome to be honest, fort i shud jus say BUY IT! im lookin forward go XII afta lookin at the review altho it is short, brief on everything apart from the gambit sytem. mind u i think the UK review will be a fair bit longer and detailed, here's hoping
KraftWerk
18/04/06 @ 12:12
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"The best Final Fantasy since VII"?

Hardly fair to ignore FFIX if you ask me. That game is a work of art.
Blerk
18/04/06 @ 12:15
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Yet another 'excellent' rating for this one. I'm starting to get curiously hopeful that it is actually a brilliant game. PAL release is going to be chuffing ages yet, though. Bah.
killyourtv
18/04/06 @ 12:16
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not read the review yet, does the guy talk about story or just the way the game plays, I dont wanna know any story
Grunk
18/04/06 @ 12:16
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when did this Luke guy turn up??

/hasn't been paying attention
Blerk
18/04/06 @ 12:22
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returning to the somewhat underused source material of Final Fantasy Tactics Advance

And the original (and vastly superior) Final Fantasy Tactics, remember. I'm surmising this is a return to the hard-faced, politics-heavy original storyline rather than Advance's slightly kiddified 'dream world' thing, yes?
CrispyXUK
18/04/06 @ 12:23
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Damnit! Whats with all these good PS2 games coming out recently, my wallet hurts
Retroid [mod]
18/04/06 @ 12:23
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"Main characters are teh ghy!21121121!!!!! ROFLWANK"

Welcome to FF - made for japanese girls :p

DQ sells far, FAR more than this does.
Freek
18/04/06 @ 12:24
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Don't worry, this won't be out here for another year and half, atleast.
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18/04/06 @ 12:24
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One question: are there random battles? If so then I absolutely will not purchase.....
Decoded
18/04/06 @ 12:27
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I'm starting to get curiously hopeful that it is actually a brilliant game

Aren't all the Final Fantasy titles brilliant?

/sets trap
/waits
Blerk
18/04/06 @ 12:30
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Aren't all the Final Fantasy titles brilliant?

No. No they are not.

/springs trap, but jumps clear in time
gamesb*tch
18/04/06 @ 12:30
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My advice to anyone considering DQVIII would be to rent it if I was you - I am BIG JRPG fan and found it very slow in many technical and narrative areas - voice file loading, animations in general, battle completion animation sequences, and plot progression in general. I was gutted to say the least, but I've always got FFV on a SNES EMU :)

All the above, IMNSHO, of course ;0)
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Scientist
18/04/06 @ 12:31
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"DQ sells far, FAR more than this does."

What's your point?
If it is "A sells more than B ergo A is better than B", then it's a fatuous statement.
Trip SkyWay
18/04/06 @ 12:36
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Sounds good, interesting read too.
TwistidChimp
18/04/06 @ 12:37
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To those asking, no there are no more random battles anymore. Its like an mmorpg, you can see the monsters skulking about and choose to attack them. (or so I understand)
lambtron
18/04/06 @ 12:38
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If it is "A sells more than B ergo A is better than B",

But of course things that sell well are teh better - I mean State of Emergency sold more than the original release of Ico!

Wait there is a flaw in my argument...

gamesb*tch
18/04/06 @ 12:38
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Current wisdom states that VIII to XI are a beeet iffy, does it not Blerk :P

/cunningly walks away from trap, but misses bear trap behind him #snap# trapped and at the mercy of Spanish lala villagers :/
Pike
18/04/06 @ 12:40
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Why does a lack of random battles make it like an MMO, in that sense? I don't think I've ever played an RPG with random battles in them. It is more of a PC versus console RPG thing, really.
J_C_X
18/04/06 @ 12:41
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This should get me off Oblivion (the best RPG since FFVII!). I thought FFX was such a dissapoinment after KOTOR and Tales of Symphonia it paled in comparison to these for story and gameplay.
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18/04/06 @ 12:41
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Current wisdom states that VIII to XI are a beeet iffy, does it not Blerk :P

I loved IX and VIII and X were very good (VIII's niggly battle-system aside). Only X-2 really irked me for being teh b0r1ng.
Triggerhappytel
18/04/06 @ 12:43
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Quite a short review. Will we see a US review, then subsequently a PAL review of this too? I hope so. I'd like to know more of the story and characterisation - always my favourite part of a FF game.

It looks a lot like Vagrant Story (I know, it's by the same team), which is great news. How does the fighting system work exactly? It sounds a little bit like V. Story crossed with KotOR. Which sounds okay, but I prefer real-time.

Also, how is the music? That's always been one of the strongest parts of any FF game. In particular, the title music from IV, VI and VII, Sephiroth's music from VII, Rufus' music from VII and (both) Kuja's music from IX.

Anyway, can't wait for this. Just gotta finish FFIX and DQVIII and I'm right there.
Feanor
18/04/06 @ 12:43
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"DQ sells far, FAR more than this does."

Not if you go by worldwide sales. So your claim is wrong unless you're Japanese, live in Japan, and don't give a shit about the rest of the world.

Whoever said this should have been released on the PS3 needs to realize they've been working on FF12 since at least 2002, and that the PS2's user base is currently infinitely larger than the PS3's.
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Decoded
18/04/06 @ 12:46
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THERE IT IS! No Final Fantasy thread/comments section is complete without the requisite FFX-2 bashing, and I for one am glad it's underway. I'm squarely on the fence, so find it all thoroughly entertaining.

Anyway, no random battles is good and all, but gives me less to complain about. Oh what a frightful quandry!
Blerk
18/04/06 @ 12:50
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Don't you have Stella Deus to finish, Decoded? ;-)
gamesb*tch
18/04/06 @ 13:03
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Any good, Decoded? It appeals to me cos a) sci-fi fantasy :), b) grid turn based system \o/
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18/04/06 @ 13:03
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I decided to ignore this game due to the use of CPU controlled characters now after reading the review I want to buy this game again! I have played all of the PS FF games and spent lots of time playing each now I have to do it again!
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18/04/06 @ 13:22
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moore25: "Is it me, or are EG's reviews getting a little too short? I know that Luke Albiges used to write for GamesTM but here on the good old interweb you don't have to worry about running out of page space.

Make 'em longer, EG."

NO NO NO! the one criticism I have of Eurogamer is the length of reviews - they're too long. Keep em short and sweet, quality not quantity etc...
Machetazo
18/04/06 @ 13:25
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So, no Ifrit or Shiva, and XII plays like a simu-MMO? (Did I get that right...)

Anyway, I found with X-2 that at first it's a curious game. It took a while for me to get into it. But the thing is that it's really just "The Continuing Adventures of FFX's Summoner Yuna!"
You can almost imagine the whole thing being told as a cartoon series. I guess it's fanservice for the most part, but I found it enjoyable.

Out of the recent FF's, at some point I'm going to return to IX (AGAIN.) XI doesn't mean a thing to me. I'll wait for more info on XII before I decide whether to bite or not, but I'm not overly enthusiatic about this.
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Retroid [mod]
18/04/06 @ 14:17
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"Not if you go by worldwide sales. So your claim is wrong unless you're Japanese, live in Japan, and don't give a shit about the rest of the world."

Tiny matter of them not really bothering to release many DQ games outside of Japan previous to this one, no?

Oh, and to anyone else entirely missing the point of my pointing out that DQ is more popular in Japan than FF is: I was pointing out that FF is seen more as a girl-gamer RPG there, and STRANGELY, since they're made in Japan, that's the audience they focus on when designing the characters ;p

I know: madness! :o
Decoded
18/04/06 @ 14:51
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gamesb*tch: you might want to cast your gaze over to the forum thread. Initially I was impressed with the game, but boredom gradually began to set in and now I just want to cry.

Blerk: at the present time I'd rather finish that bottle of bleach, ta.
Killerbee
18/04/06 @ 14:52
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I guess I should (or maybe I shouldn't) add my voice to those calling for a bit more detail in these kind of reviews - I know it's an import review, but since a new Final Fantasy game is likely to be pretty high up on any console-RPG fan's radar, I feel this deserved a bit more coverage. I suppose we will get the obligatory euro-version revisitation, but still... some details about the characters / setting (for those who haven't played FFTA) / music / story (sans spoilers) and battle mechanics would be welcome. Having read the review, I'm as much in the dark as I was before...

Then again, I'm bound to rush out to buy it the moment it's released, so what do I care!?

And since we're laying into FFX-2, I suppose I should say I enjoyed it more than VIII but not as much as X, IX or VII. So there you go. :)
tengu
18/04/06 @ 15:03
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I really enjoyed FFX-2 for the simple reason it was a fun game with lots to do. That's all I want from any game.

From what I've played of FFXII, it seems pretty damn spiffy. The combat system is going to take some adjusting to considering how different it is to previous FFs, but it looks to be pretty good on the whole. Can't wait for the english language release so I can stuck into it.
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"Dizzy: In my case the game just makes me puke."

So why are you even in this thread at all? Oh yes, it's a Playstation game and you're a troll. Silly me.

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Asundai
18/04/06 @ 15:28
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"And since we're laying into FFX-2, I suppose I should say I enjoyed it more than VIII but not as much as X, IX or VII. So there you go. :)"

Argh. Why does everyone hate VIII. :(

I liked that one more than X, which i never finished. Though that was more down to irritating voice acting (and the fact that the ending and half the important plot points were spoiled for me >_< ).

"We should go that way!"
*5 minute pause*
"ok!"

etc....


Anyway, i've played the XII demo and the combat seemed interesting, it's a nice change from the whole random battle thing that everyone must be getting tired of by now (at least i am). Here's hoping the rest of the game is just as good.
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space ace
18/04/06 @ 15:37
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fantastic finale!
Daryoon
18/04/06 @ 15:47
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VII's unrivalled Materia system

Buh? The materia system was shite, it removed all sense of character individuality! It no longer mattered who you had in your party, because everything was dictated by what materia they had equipped instead.
absolutezero
18/04/06 @ 16:06
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1 thing, do the characters yell out the move names as they perform them ala Star Ocean 3 and the Tales series?

Cos theres only so much "SPHERE OF MIGHT" I could take before I threw the disc out the window.
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