iPhone is "future of gameplay" - Apple Comments by Ellie Gibson

My PSP says different....

Yep , Err good luck with that.

Nintendo must be cacking themselves. I imagine the original Gameboy still sells more games on it than the Apple iPhone.

Hahaha...

Customers also don't have to worry about consistent standards for games.

I agree with him, turning my ps3 on and watching a video / tv show I have recorded from half way around the world, all via my psp, is really old school. Get with the times Sony.

Yes, because people will genuinely want to pay 250 quid for a locked-in-contract phone to play games on the bog.

Until it has some proper buttons it really can't compete with the DS/PSP in terms of regular games.

He sounds like that other guy, was his face from nokia. the n-gage is the future, blah blah, nintendo better watch out blah blah. fuck off apple.

Customers also don't have to worry about paying £800 for the platform or being tied to a wallet sapping £40 a month for 2 years...

Yeah, that £99 DS must be crapping itself?

And what's that Mr. PSP - DRM free video from my own DVD / Download collection happily shoved on a 16GB Memory Stick on your 4.3 inch screen? £150 you say?

And games from Sega, Nintendo, EA, and so on...

...yes, I simply must buy a g@yphone for the gaming.

...a bit like the way I must buy one for the way it offers all that 'business connectivity' that's NOTHING at all to do with MS Exchange... oh no.

Apple - I don't care if they make any nice products, they're run by prats and sell to even bigger prats.

I agree with him, turning my ps3 on and watching a video / tv show I have recorded from half way around the world, all via my psp, is really old school. Get with the times Sony.

But how much has it cost you to put all that together? Then an iPhone is free nowadays on contract.

In some ways I agree with him. If the iPhone was more powerful for games, then he has a solid point, but at present its a bit of a bold statement. I don't own a PSP or a DS anymore, as I just never used them. But if Mario 64 or Mario Kart (as examples) came out on the iPhone, I would be much more likely to have a quick go when traveling etc. One less piece of equipment.

Nothing extra at all really, I had my TV, PS3 and PSP before that feature was available.

Then an iPhone is free nowadays on contract.
Nothing in life is free.

It would help if Apple weren't charging for updates the newer models get for free and changing the specs every now and then :)

@Doctor Zoidberg

"I agree with him, turning my ps3 on and watching a video / tv show I have recorded from half way around the world, all via my psp, is really old school. Get with the times Sony.

But how much has it cost you to put all that together? Then an iPhone is free nowadays on contract. "

Less than the cost of that 'free phone' on it's 'NOT very free contract' I'd wager...

But don't worry, you can download the episode of Lost he's watching for free on his PSP on the iphone for a 'nominal fee' from itunes...

Off Topic: Talking of $5 / £5 games, I picked Every Extend Extra at HMV for a fiver the other day for my PSP... that's the best value fiver I've blown in a while!

I picked up a new copy of Gitaroo Man Lives for £5 at GAME not long ago. You can't do games like that on Apple's ripoff phone.

I'm not saying he's right. But if you have an iphone, download "Trace"

It's no Fallout 3, but it's the best free game for a phone EVER

No. Just, no.

Contract this.. contract that... These games also work on the ipod touch - No contract.
You can also rip DVDs to the 16gig internal memory using very simple free software.

The only thing I saw in Apple's comments that made me want a step forward in dedicated handheld consoles is the digital distribution model.

It's an afterthought on Dsi and PSP and should be at the heart of the next round.

I agree with this. I use my itouch on the commute to work almost everyday. I got bored of my PSP when I completed the only good game that stupid device has.. god of war.

All this talk about the iPhone - what about the iPod Touch? I used to bring either my PSP or DS with me wherever I went but since getting the iTouch I've no longer felt the need. I've been pleasantly surprised (though not blown away) by the quality of some of the games available through the app store.
Monkey Ball is great fun once you get used to the overly sensitive motion sensing.
-Crash Bandicoot racing is good fun but more importantly shows that there is a lot of potential for a Mario Kart quality game in the -near future when developers are able to squeeze more out of the system.
-Texas Hold 'em is perfect for 2-3 minute bouts when waiting in line etc.

Also - the 16gb capacity means i can also carry all my favourite music, watch TV shows and films, access email and web all on one portable device. I don't have an iPhone but would really love one because it means I would only need to carry one device around instead of 2.

Don't write off Apple just yet.....

got a picross clone for the ipod touch, its quite nice for a quick game every so often :)

once peggle comes out for it my life is complete

"Joswiak" is such an amalgamation of "Jobs" and "Wozniak", it's not even funny.

Also, I wonder what button on the iPhone fires the red shell in Mario Kart?

>>>I'm not saying he's right. But if you have an iphone, download "Trace"
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Reading your post prompted me to try Trace....it's very good! And free!! Cheers.

DS and PSP are "more in the past".

HAHAHAHA!!!! Just like the 3G iphone, which funnily enough is only equipt with 2G phone features...(no MMS, video calls). Phone was obsolete 4yrs before it came out.

Dear Apple,
I do not need your pretty looking products in my life. I have fully functional products which already meet my need, which include items such as a phone and a DS. Thanks anyway. Please continue to sell the latest iteration of whatever you have released to people in the media and your ardent followers. I am not interested.

Thanks

Who here actually uses video calling? I've had it on my last 3/4 phones and used it once to test the novelty.

Many of us here use copy and paste I gather.

Well, he's got a point.

My DS is collecting dust since I've got a Touch. But it does need buttons to make it a real alternative as far as gaming is concerned.

(It does help that the games in the AppStore cost a fraction of DS games, too.)

nooooooooo! not another shitbag badmouthing the competition. All we need now is MS to jump in and we'll have a right old fucking soup of cuntery.

"So this allows people to do significantly higher quality games. And the Touch is always in your pocket, whereas you can’t always carry some other games consoles."

Well not the ones that sit under your TV, but all of the portable systems are as portable as an iPhone. There are a few gems available for the iPhone, but most of the games are a bit guff imo.

The iPhone is doing nothing that most other mobile phone game platforms have been doing, save the addition of a touch screen. That doesn't imply quality, in the same way that the Wiimote hasn't automatically resulted in a pile of quality 3rd party titles. A game for £5 is only good value if its any good, and most mobile phone games just aren't that good.

I look forward to seeing "the computer power and the 3D graphic power" being put to use for the "future of gameplay," all for a fiver.

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Dear Apple,
Going on your past form and commitment to gaming unless there has been a revolution in your corporation i will think of this statement on iPhone gaming as lies and hype designed to lure people in before you drop gaming support and make pretty calculator apps and hypercard slides like usual.

Rodger Applehategaming
President of Vice, Pull the other one Inc.

*sigh* I really do wonder when the collective geek brain got turned into an 'us or them' engine... Like it or not, Apple have a point here. Let's ignore the iPhone for a sec and focus on the iPod Touch. Costs roughly the same as a PSP once you put a memory stick in the PSP and both platforms give you an MP3 player, let you watch movies, surf the net and play games. It's just that the PSP delivers games targeted at the more dedicated gamer, the Touch is more at the casual gamer.

And yet... the touch is far smaller than the PSP, has a large number of productivity apps as well, has a web browser that actually works, is a far superior media platform and, thanks to the app store, makes getting new games and applications very easy and very cheap. This is Apple going its own way and it seems to have tapped into a large market that, up until now, maybe wasn't be addressed by the rest of the gaming industry. It's what Nokia have been trying to do for, what, four years now with N-gage and Apple managed it practicaly overnight.

Does anyone doubt that the next new platform from Nintendo or Sony will have an on-line store? Or that they're going to be working on producing something that looks far more like an iPhone than a PSP at least in terms of size? Or that the attractions of a 3G data connection for gaming will be lost on them? Remember that the iPhone platform is still very, very early in its lifecycle right now, it's going to be very interesting indeed to see what devs can come up with given more time and resources. Is it going to replace a DS/PSP for those that read Eurogamer? Probably not, not yet anyway. But is there a market out there that could make it a major player? Absolutely.

the IPhone isn't even the future of music players ffs.

Love my iPhone, and some of the games (Virtual Pool FTW), but I don't think Apple give a shit about gamers.

Remember reading an interview with Gabe Newell (Valve for cave dwellers), and they've talked to Apple on several occasions about getting Steam on the Mac... Apple couldn't give a toss, so neither can Valve anymore

Paying 250€ for the phone and other 600-800€ (or even much more since those profile only allows you 500- 600 MB of download per month, which is ridiculously low!) for a 2 years contract with Vodafone/Tim just to get 5€ games for it? does that means a grat value for this guy? For me it's a total ripoff!

Apple, no thanks! Not any more money from me!

Remember that the iPhone platform is still very, very early in its lifecycle right now, it's going to be very interesting indeed to see what devs can come up with given more time and resources.

Buttons?

Not an iphone/ipod touch user but are the games for these devices not just modified Flash-based games that you can play on internet for free?

I have an ipod classic which pisses all over the touch as its actually a useful MUSIC player not a flash gadget but the games I have for it like Spore: origins, Zuma and Klondike are all fun but not ground-breaking like whats on the DS and PSP.

I think Sony and Nintendo can sleep peacefully at night over this issue

@ Madafunkola

You may not use video calling, but from working in the building industry it's very useful.
Back on topic: I don't see how controlling by moving the screen around, or blocking the touch screen with your finger is "the future".

My PSP has metal gear and FF crisis core with more Resistance on the way - I think not mr appley wappley

What's the BS nowdays, every want wants to be "avantguard" ? PS3 dude saying "comeptition is losing momentum", and now this?
Rethoric, rethoric...

I wished these guys showed us, with facts.

"Not an iphone/ipod touch user but are the games for these devices not just modified Flash-based games that you can play on internet for free? "

Not at all, there are games being made exclusively for the iPhone and iPod touch (like the recently released 'Jumble!' (/shameless self plug :)). Attempting to set aside my slightly partisan view on the platform, I do find myself using it for casual gaming far more than my DS or PSP (carry two entertainment devices on the train? Not me, etc, etc) but it certainly won't mean I'll be getting rid of them - there's plenty of life left in them (and games coming out that I want).

I don't ever think the iPhone/iPod Touch will compete with DS or PSP, but it's SO easy to try/buy stuff for it. And the quality is going up in leaps and bound.

I'm addicted to Galcon at the moment.

Funny how people keep on moaning about the cost of the iPhone. You simpletons do know the iPod Touch is identical bar the phone features yes?

Paying 250€ for the phone and other 600-800€ (or even much more since those profile only allows you 500- 600 MB of download per month, which is ridiculously low!) for a 2 years contract with Vodafone/Tim just to get 5€ games for it? does that means a grat value for this guy? For me it's a total ripoff!

Apple, no thanks! Not any more money from me!


iPod Touch.

As mentioned about a dozen times in this thread.

The iPod Touch is a jack of many trades master of none

Its not that useful as a music player due to the memory size 8-16gb so if you are an audiophile the Classic is your choice or the Nano which is a lot smaller and more conveient

As a games machine - well see the above comments

As a media player, decent but limited by memory size and the PSP is actually better for watching movies.

As I said before a flash gadget but not that useful maybe once they get it up to 32gb and 64gb and at a decent price this might change

iPod Touch? That's so passé..., I mean, who wants to carry arround a mobile, an "iPod Touch", maybe a GPS..., everything in it's right place, one place! And for that iPhone is *expensive* for what it does.

That said, I have an iPod Touch, which, of course, is always at home, and server no real purpose, as it has merely 8Gb.

I don't want anything to do with your sniffing own fart smugnes, silly Apple.

To repeat what has been written by many others.

The iPod Touch (8GB for £169) is amazing. Games are soo cheap, literally thousands available, every genre, top five hundred games have production values which match or exceed what's available on PSP and DS which look antiquated in comparison.

Need further convincing? Check these links:
http://toucharcade.com/
http://www.slidetoplay.com/
http://www.iphonegamenetwork.com/
http://www.apptism.com/
http://www.148apps.com/price-drops/
http://www.148apps.com/newest-148-app-st...

By the way:
Virtual Pool (£1.79) - Game of the year - £1.79!!! One pound and seventy-nine pence!!!
Field Runners (£2.99) - Game of the year - £2.99!!! Two pound and ninety-nine pence!!!
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