Infinity Ward studio heads sacked?
Activision investigating "insubordination".
Infinity Ward president Jason West and studio head Vince Zampella appear to have been sacked by the studio's owner Activision amid dramatic scenes and claims of breach of contract and insubordination.
G4 reported late yesterday that "bouncer-type" security had showed up at the offices of the Call of Duty: Modern Warfare developer following a meeting between the two studio heads and Activision, and that West and Zampella hadn't been seen by staff since.
G4 then turned up a Securities and Exchange Commission filing by Activision earlier in the day indicating that the publisher was investigating senior staff at Infinity Ward, and expecting to sack and sue them.
"The Company is concluding an internal human resources inquiry into breaches of contract and insubordination by two senior employees at Infinity Ward," the filing read. "This matter is expected to involve the departure of key personnel and litigation."
Meanwhile, Kotaku turned up a Facebook status update from West that read, "Jason West is drinking. Also, no longer employed." His profile on the professional networking site LinkedIn also appeared to have been updated, showing his role as "President/Game Director/CCO/CTO at Infinity Ward" as a "Past" employment.
Zampella's status at the moment is unclear. Neither Activision or Infinity Ward has offered an official comment as yet. Infinity Ward's vocal spokesman Robert Bowling simply said "I have no info" on his Twitter.
Zampella and West were among the founding members of Infinity Ward who had previously worked on Medal of Honor: Allied Assault for EA. At their new studio, they created the immensely successful Call of Duty series of first-person shooters for Activision and continued to develop key entries in the series, culminating in the recent smash hits Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare and Modern Warfare 2.
West is credited as the director of Modern Warfare 2, which was 2009's best-selling game worldwide and which racked up a billion dollars of sales in two months.
Game creator Tim Schafer, whose Brutal Legend was dropped by Activision before being picked up by EA, commented on his Twitter: "Getting mad at Activision for this kind of thing is like getting mad at an ape for throwing feces. It's just how the beast communicates."
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"remember...no Russian"
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Sounds like an EA thing of old.
In my dream world they'll go work with Carmack at Id Software
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Probably at the bottom of a river somewhere wearing concrete boots.
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Activision says make MW3, IW says no. It would fit the "insubordination" description, and firing the leads and while intimidating everybody else would not be surprising behaviour for Bobby Kotick.
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Rockstar North are treated with relative kid gloves by Take Two, but the flip side of this is the enormous development cycle between installments in the GTA franchise. Take Two's investors, at least, aren't too happy at the way the company's premier franchise releases a new major installment only every three or four years.
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Weren't they called Infinity War....oh shit.
OK kids. Your reading today is to go look up the story of the Golden Goose who laid golden eggs.
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Fortunately non-compete clauses are never cast iron.
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(or is 6? I lost count ...)
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"Are publishers allowed to meddle with the running of the developers they own?"
If the publishers don't just publish the games, but actually are "owners" of the development teams . . . then yes.
"what's the point in having different development studios in the first place?"
Well, now you're looking at two different things. The point of different development teams is that they work better as self contained entities, in the same way the Army has different units within the overall body.
I think your unasked question is WHY the hell would Activision muck with a development team on this sort of micro-level control, especially when they just made the company almost as much cash as Blizzard? Seems like at this point there's not a whole lot IW could do that wouldn't get Activision's backing. If the rumors are true and IW didn't want to make MW3 . . . then fucking let them make something else! They do seem to be pretty good at making saleable games . . . and if its a new IP then they create a franchise, you farm it off to Treyarch or somebody else as another cow to milk, then let IW go make another new IP.
I mean . . . "insubordination"? Really? What happened -- they get mouthy? Didn't show up to detention? Told Kotick he was a flaming clown shoe? They just made you a billion freakin' dollars! I can't wait to find out what kind of "insubordination" is worth a billion dollars. Kotick might be a jackass (and the sun might be hot), but he's not insane (is he?).
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"OK kids. Your reading today is to go look up the story of the Golden Goose who laid golden eggs."
I'm just making a note not to go anywhere near any disc bearing the fateful markings of "M.W, and 3".
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I imagine IW refused to make MW3 and got slapped hard for it. To bad though, I suspect those guys are gonna set up a new studio and alot of talent is going to leave IW.
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I bet the people maiking the new Medal of Honour game at EA are raising a few toasts.
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But Acti don't need IW. Treyarch's games still shift 10m+, people will buy anything with the CoD name on it. I'm not sure people will be so accepting of GTA being made by anyone else, as it's the humour and personality of the dev team coming through that makes GTA so good. Any technically competent dev team with a good design team can make a decent CoD game, but GTA is one of those things like Monkey Island where you need a lot more than 1337 programming and design skills to make it any good. Besides, what do Take 2 have besides GTA really? They're completely dependent on it. Acti could keep going with Treyarch-made COD games, GH and WoW and barely notice the difference. If Rockstar walk from Take 2 they're properly fucked.
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Truth be told, whoever controls the purse strings can often meddle with whoever is getting paid to do the job. This applies outside of the games industry too.
If a publisher is putting up the cash for a game to get made, they are in the powerful position of withholding payments if they don't get their way. Firm milestones are supposed to give everyone a known set of targets to work toward, but many milestones are subjective (words like "quality" and so forth), and so impossible to measure objectively.
Sometimes an experienced publisher can keep and inexperienced dev team on the right track, but equally as often an inexperienced publisher tries to tell an experienced dev team how to do their job, resulting in a poor product at the end.
Occasionally you get a good working relationship, where each side trusts the other to do their own respective jobs, and the end result is great (assuming both sides are competant). Again, you will see this outside of game development.
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The turnover of the biggest music games is dropping, but that is mostly because people aren't buying plastic guitars anymore. It is unrealistic to compare to the height of the plastic intrument sales and say that musical games are dying.
Content is still selling, and even the disc releases are doing ok. But now its costing gamers £25 for a disc instead of £100 for the whole band pack.
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"Activision evicts orphans on Christmas Eve.
Dateline New York: Infamous self-styled evil-corporation Activision today shocked no-one by..."
Edit: Damn you shrike! Stealing my thunder... unleash Activision upon him! Fly my pretties! Fly!
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Fuck them.
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How's that for a fuck you Activision?
Though I am curious as to what reason they are getting involved in Litigation...
Bobby Kotick:
'we want you to make CoD games for the rest of your natural lives... then we will dig you up and Franenstein the fuck out of you so you can make some more'.
Infinity Ward guys:
'Erm no thanks'
Bobby Kotick:
'Fuck you! you're Sacked! and we are gonna sue your asses - remember that contract signed in the blood of small children? I OWN YOUR SOULS!!
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if you do business with the man in the black suit, it's inevitable that even bigger men in even blacker suits will eventually turn up..
business rule no.2:
have some hell's angels on the payroll in case that happens.
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Activision Bought Infinity Ward, so they own the studio, its assets and tech etc.
the staff are Activision Employees (for now hehe).
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edit - spelling
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"But how will The Kotick maintain control without the beaurocracy?"
"Fear will keep the regional developers in line. Fear of our franchise-wrecking super-laser."
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"Don't be too proud of this corporate terror you've constructed. The ability to destroy a studio is insignificant next to the power of aggressively backwards looking, 80s-style American capitalism."
Need to do some work now.
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Rockstar has managed that way for years.
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If this is Kotick's doing then he is acting like a little rich spoiled kid that didn't get the lollipop he wanted and thus gets the whole candy-shop burned down.
Next thing we will hear is that Activision gets the heads at Blizzard "disappeared" as well. Activision, the modern day corporate terrorist mafia - a title normally reserved for pharmaceutical companies.
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Wonder how Ubisoft will counter.
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Happens all the time, and the only people to get fat off it are the lawyers. Yes, there'll be a law suit, yes, it will get settled before anything comes to court, yes there will be a MW3 and it will be lacking, and yes, the ex-heads of IW will go off and start something new.
Let's hope that they self-publish this time, after having their fingers burned by both EA and Activison.
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Tim Schafer says all.
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Hopefully this will help Activision figure out that relying on just three of four IPs while the competition are running dozens can't keep them in the race forever, hopefully they'll take this opportunity to shake things up a little, kick off a couple new IPs and try to breathe some new life into the old ones. Otherwise they're going to fail, hard.
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I hope they are, it would give me a little faith in Infinty Ward. If anyone is worthy of being on the end of a little insubordination, it's Activision.
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If however they signed on the dotted line and then said wai actually no FU! Then that's another legal matter entirely.
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Among all this talk of Activision having a big and evil plan, has anyone considered that the bits about "breach of contract and insubordination" might in fact be true?
It's entirely possible, and quite reasonable, however with the general behaviour and attitudes shown by Activision recently I think it's fair to say they've lost a lot of our "good will". As a result, some of us choose not to give them the benefit of the doubt as to whether or not this was the appropriate response to whatever breach of contract or insubordination that may have occurred.
The Infinity Ward guys may have looted the armoury and mutinied (figuratively speaking of course) after multiple attempts on Activition's part to resolve whatever issues led to this or alternately it may be a completely trumped up charge over something that Activision could have handled with a quite chat between reasonable people but instead are using to replace troublesome (or powerful) people with.
Until further information comes to light I'm assuming it's all because Activision are bastards: if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck it'll screw you over for your bread and crap in your kitchen at the same time.
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Fortunately non-compete clauses are never cast iron. "
L0cky: Yeah, wasn't there a landmark case a few years ago? Someone took it to the European Court of Human Rights? One of those rights is to earn a living at whatever it is that you want to do to earn a living. Not even Kotick is above that.
"But Acti don't need IW. Treyarch's games still shift 10m+, people will buy anything with the CoD name on it."
@ Zomoniac: I would imagine the guys at EA once said the same thing about Medal of Honor...
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L0cky: Yeah, wasn't there a landmark case a few years ago? Someone took it to the European Court of Human Rights? One of those rights is to earn a living at whatever it is that you want to do to earn a living. Not even Kotick is above that.
I believe so, as a result those non-compete clauses or any attempt to restrict what you can do when you leave a company are unenforceable in the EU.
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Excellent point. MoH was of course once a massive powerhouse IP itself and look at it now. A carbon copy of another copy of itself. Who knows, CoD may well fizzle out altogether and then perhaps at long last something actually worthwhile will take its throne.
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Sell your activision shares.
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On principle: not buying any more Actard games. Actually, haven't for a while!
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Then again, it would surely be difficult for the american supreme court (or whatever the US equivalent is) to decide against the EU ruling on a human rights issue. They would basically be admitting that humans have fewer rights in America than they have in Europe.
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I fear for blizzard now. Its clear that Activision will not tolerate any form of deviation from their (blinkered moronic) corporate line.
Clear? This is so far from clear!
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@ sneetch: Would that protect an non-EU citizen if they came over here though?
Then again, it would surely be difficult for the american supreme court (or whatever the US equivalent is) to decide against the EU ruling on a human rights issue. They would basically be admitting that humans have fewer rights in America than they have in Europe.
Well... I ain't no big-city lawyer...
/streches bracers
I believe they are completely entitled to work at whatever they want to if they came to the EU. If they went back home for Thanksgiving, say, could they be arrested and charged? I don't know. I don't know what the state of US law is like, they may have gone through similar cases and have similar laws from state to state.
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Massive bunch of souless c*nts.
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Pity they never will because of WoW.
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so,the COD titles are now pretty much in the hands of Treyarch..does that mean they will get MW3 as well?
It doesn't mean that at all, the studio heads may have been sacked but that does not mean the studio is being shut down or anything. Activision will replace those people, now some of the existing staff may leave, may even form a new studio with the old heads but Infinity Ward isn't going anywhere.
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Oh absolutely. Refusing to do what your employer asks you is usually grounds for termination anyway. Its just the manner that its reported is turning West and Zampella into martyrs instead.
There is a more sinister rumour rumbling on NeoGaf that Activision weaselled out of MW2 royalty payments to IW staff through a contractual clause, West and Zampella confronted the suits about it and threatened to walk with other staff. Activision just fired them instead and filed suit to make sure they cant just go off and set up a new studio (Or join a currently running one) by enforcing their No Compete Clause. Accusing your bosses of defrauding you is a pretty big ground for termination too.
Remember last week that Kottick said the franchise is more important than the developer? There you go. A culture of skepticism, pessimism, and fear indeed.
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IW: Hey, we'd like to do a new IP, or at least bring some cool really innovative mechanics that change the feel of the next CoD!
BK: Noz.
IW: What you say! Remember when we wanted to do CoD in modern days and you said no, that you wanted more WWII shooters? We had it our way and brought you gajillion internetz. So whaddaya think? Can we?
BK: Noz.
IW: Ah, screw it. We're doing it anyway for great justice 'cause we brought ya gajillion internetz and you're just an arrogant prick!
Bk: ............
IW: .................
BK: .....................
IW: Err...
BK: All your bases are belong to us.
IW: NOOOOOOOOOOZ!
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Infinity Ward should just say "Right, we're not making any more Call of Duty games after Modern Warfare 3, and if you want to close us down, then fine, you'll lose billions of dollars. Or, you could let us split from you, but we'll still make new games and have them published by you. We'll have our freedom, and you'll have your money."
It's a risky move, but hey, it worked for Bungie.
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Activision apparently/allegedly fired the people who would have been able to make that proposal. For all we know making that very proposal could be the "insubordination" that caused them to be fired. Removing and replacing them with more compliant people ensures that Infinity Ward will continue to do as they're told.
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I'm sure EA could give them a job, they'd be better off...
Also nicely put Mr Schafer..
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Yeah we know that the EU laws don't apply in California. We figured out that it's not in the EU.
Glad to see that the Californians have sensible laws about this too.
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It only ends once. Anything that happens before that.......is just progress.
Oh, my bad, this isn't the lost thread.
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