Infinity Ward defends UK MW2 PC sales

By Tom Bramwell Published 23 November, 2009

3% of other versions' sales still good.

Infinity Ward has denied that sales of Modern Warfare 2 on PC have been lacklustre, arguing that all the signs actually point to success.

"Yes, PC is the smallest percentage in terms of how much sold on each platform but that hardly means anything other than the PC is just the smallest market," Infinity Ward man Robert Bowling patiently informed fans on the official forum (thanks Kotaku).

"The PC version of Modern Warfare 2 has actually outsold the PC version of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare in its first week. Making it the most successful PC version."

Last week's UK charts saw Modern Warfare 2 storm to the top thanks to more than 1.7 million sales in five days.

However, it was later revealed that the PC version accounted for just three per cent of that figure, leading some commentators to suggest it was a big old failure. And by "commentators" we mean "people who probably signed that petition".

"Essentially, all this percentage proves is that the console versions sold great, not that the PC version sold poorly, because that's actually not the case," Bowling explained. "The PC version has done tremendous in its first week, better than our previous game."

Meanwhile, that three per cent of its siblings' total was still enough to top the PC-specific chart, some way clear of Football Manager 2010 and Dragon Age: Origins.

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  • muscleblade #1 2 years ago

    PC gaming is dying.

    edit: Wow new record for me. Wonder why?
    Edited by 1 at 24/11/09 @ 09:17

  • butler` #2 2 years ago

    THE END IS NIGH

  • Xerx3s #3 2 years ago

    "PC gaming is dying."

    Ah, it can keep your brain company then.

  • andywilkie35 #4 2 years ago

    My mate bought MW2 for PC - he hasn't played games in about 3 months but thought he'd get back into it. Hilariously he's got a fairly decent PC yet its already outdated and wouldn't run it. Should have got it for his PS3, foolish.

  • munki83 #5 2 years ago

    I wonder if this is because the PC is in decline or that MW2 is being advertised as a console fps. Regardless PC gaming is far from dead its just changing to a different model. MW2 is probably only one of the few games which can get to the sale numbers of The Sims, FM, WoW, HL2.

  • muscleblade #6 2 years ago

    @Xerx3s

    Personal attacks eh, thats intelligent. I have nothing against PC gaming but the sales of PC games arent up there with the console games. Sorry to say. Pretty sure im smarter than you anyway.

  • muscleblade #7 2 years ago

    "Regardless PC gaming is far from dead its just changing to a different model. "

    Maybe. Doesnt help the sales though. The sales figures includes sales from Steam and other digital distribution not just retail.
    Maybe im missing something.

  • dsmx #8 2 years ago

    PC gaming is an 11 BILLION dollar industry and growing, anyone who says it's dying needs there head examined.

  • munki83 #9 2 years ago

    @muscleblade

    The best of the PC are higher than most console sales. Also PC gaming will never die while my psx3 and 360 will be redundant my pc in some form will always be used for games. Plus with onlive and other similar technologies coming soon consoles will be made redundant within the next 10 years.

  • Gunzberg #10 2 years ago

    3%.....3% ?!??

  • General_Zod #11 2 years ago

    @andywilke35

    If he cant run MW2 it isnt a fairly decent PC sorry.

  • the_dudefather #12 2 years ago

    that's still about a billion copies of the game given how MW2 has been selling

  • Eraysor #13 2 years ago

    Without any actual sales figures you can't make any judgements at all from just a percentage. It's entirely possible that the console versions simply happened to sell a load more that the PC one, regardless of how many PC units sell (which considering it has sold more than the original, quite a few).

    Also I can second MW2 running fine on good gaming PCs from 2 years ago, if not slightly more.

  • mcbi4kh2 #14 2 years ago

    @Bloodkult
    MW will run on pretty much any old shite.
    The 8800GT...

    I have an 8800GT :(

  • Steroyd #15 2 years ago

    There was a big uproar about there being no Dedicated servers, so maybe that's why more people jumped on the console versions than they normally would.

  • Raiten #16 2 years ago

    it's easy to say pc gaming is dying thanks to the poor sales of mw2 on pc, while compleatly being an utter idiot and overlooking the fact that had they not screwd up majority of their fanbase on pc with the mess they call multiplayer, it would've most definetly enjoyed far better sales than it did now.
    Pc gaming a small market? riight.. tell that to the millions of people playing mmos and the companies rolling in their cash flow, or to the people still playing old rts/fps etc. games online.. why? oh oh they got dedicated servers! so they can enjoy their favourites years after release.

  • muscleblade #17 2 years ago

    @munki83

    But PC gamers still dont buy as many games. Seems to me that most PC gamers plays World of Warcraft.

    "The best of the PC are higher than most console sales"

    What?! The best selling games are all console games exept maybe WOW. What do you mean? That PCs sell more than consoles? Of course they do.

  • muscleblade #18 2 years ago

    "PC gaming is an 11 BILLION dollar industry and growing, anyone who says it's dying needs there head examined. "

    OK then. I also use my laptop for games. Peggle is pretty fun. Dying is a strong word. Wasnt meant to be taken literally anyway.

  • UncleLou #19 2 years ago

    "PC gaming is dying. "

    PC game retail sales in the UK are dead, more like.

    PC gaming is doing fine.

  • nuanimal #20 2 years ago

    It's just the perception of percentages probably.

    The actual sold for PS3 and 360 could actually be a lot more bigger than than with COD4MW, and just overshadow the still high actual sales of the PC version.

    But like I said before... why should I give a f*** about sales unless I'm the company or an investor?

  • bad09 #21 2 years ago

    For retail I can understand that, I found one shop selling it on PC and they only had a couple of copies. It's been a top seller on Steam for a while though (and I think they don't release sales figures or something) so I reckon overall it's more than 3%.

    Mind you, if you do want it you are best off buying a retail copy from somewhere and unlocking it on Steam, save yourself some money. £40 quid? hahahahahaha!

  • GamerG #22 2 years ago

    you can still buy games on PC?

  • kwesleyb #23 2 years ago

    The PC is the only gaming option in my house for me, and long may that continue. PC gaming is dying? Pfft, go away...

  • StooMonster #24 2 years ago

    Everyone I know who purchased this title bought it on Steam, is that included in the 3% sales figures?

  • Nephirion #25 2 years ago

    Modern Warfare 2 for PC is a console port, adding keyboard and mouse support doesnt make it a PC game. The multiplayer is the same as the console, totally gimped at 18 players. The enviroment textures close up are low res ports from the console version so im suprised so many people bought it for PC.

  • Flabio #26 2 years ago

    It's my understanding that Steam figures aren't included in the UK charts, I don't think any of the online services are because they don't release their figures to ChartTrack. Same reason you don't ever see any XBLA or PSNetwork games appear in the UK charts, they don't reveal the numbers.

  • miiiguel #27 2 years ago

    Well, a bit off-topic'ish, but PC gamers have to admit all in all, 360 helped their library this gen. You wouldn't have this many games if it wasn't for the 360, imo*. Now, there's some colateral damage, like this dedicated servers you dig so much (don't know why).

    * - Judging from the times there was only PS2.
    Edited by 1 at 23/11/09 @ 10:25

  • bad09 #28 2 years ago

    @ miiiguel

    Well the library is a stretch apart from which most of it is on PS3 as well, that's what multiplatform is you see. ;). But....

    ....the 360 (well more MS than the console) has saved PC a bit this gen for me. Decent controllers!!!! \o/ \o/ \o/

  • miiiguel #29 2 years ago

    I'm just saying, that I *really* doubt you would have Square or even Capcom AAA titles for the PC if there was only PS, like in the (early) previous gen. For example.
    Edited by 1 at 23/11/09 @ 10:30

  • bad09 #30 2 years ago

    @ miiiguel

    Yeah I see what you mean actually. SF4 (and all their multiplatform now I believe) was done on PC and ported to the consoles as that was easier and that's worked out well for everyone :)

    That might not have been the case had Sony had no competition this gen.
    Edited by 1 at 23/11/09 @ 10:36

  • Xerx3s #31 2 years ago

    "Personal attacks eh, thats intelligent."
    No, just mocking stupid comments.

    "I have nothing against PC gaming but the sales of PC games arent up there with the console games. Sorry to say."
    Rubbish. The PC market is a completely different market than consoles. Just because a console game doesn't sell well on the PC, doesn't mean that the PC is dying. For one thing, there are far more games on the PC market and the price competition is also much stronger. Ergo, games have to work a lot harder to earn money. On the flip side of that, the PC market also has a much longer sales loop instead of the usual 1st week sales only that 95% of console games see.

    "Pretty sure im smarter than you anyway."
    You most likely are but saying such things makes you an idiot so that cancels it out. What is it that they say again? Only a fool marvels at his own superior intelligence?

  • bad09 #32 2 years ago

    @ Bloodkult

    Right stop right there. The original Resi games are on PC? Christ I didn't know that! Where can I can 'em legally on the download?

  • xentar #33 2 years ago

    i am sorry to say that but if PC gamers are saing this isnt a bad sign for PC gaming they are just ostrichs putting their heads in the sand.

    Sure, PC has some options like MMORPGs and casual games but core gaming is console led and thats not gonna change. You may blame developers, pirates or Microsoft, but its all the same. the most spread gaming platform is in shit.

  • masterson #34 2 years ago

    No idea why everyone seems to be giving muscleblade a hard time. His potted summary of the state of PC gaming was certainly a bit of a sweeping statement, but even the most ardent PC devotee cannot fail to have missed the diminishing amount of shelf space allocated to PC titles in games stores, the smaller amount of multiplatform titles leading on PC or the lowly position a PC best seller occupies on the all-format charts in the last 5 years or so. You may not like this state of affairs, but to deny it is folly. Of course there are certain types of game that remain best suited to PC (MMOs, RTS etc, etc) but when it comes to high budget action titles (which is what this thread was about) it cannot be denied the PC market is a shadow of its former self.
    Edited by 1 at 23/11/09 @ 10:54

  • kinky_mong #35 2 years ago

    I can back andywilkie35 up because said friend is my housemate. The reason he can't run MW2 is because his graphics card doesn't support the shaders the game requires, other than that his PC is more than capable.

    So he could spend £100+ to update his graphics card to play the game with a small userbase populated by condescending whiners, or he could buy it for his PS3. I know what I would do in that situation.

  • bad09 #36 2 years ago

    @ Bloodkult

    Damn! thanks for the info I'll start hunting!

    Oh, these "PC is dying", "no shelf space", " no PC in the charts" etc people I would be careful. Next year DD sales are to be tracked (not the console stuff though). Also, 2006-2009, if you take DD into account, it is down (it would be of course 360 and PS3 are good machines) but nowhere near the doom you all think.

    http://ww w.next-gen.biz/news/gfk-chart-t...
    Edited by 1 at 23/11/09 @ 11:04

  • andywilkie35 #37 2 years ago

    Wahey! Best thing is that a fellow EGer has backed me up because he lives with him, win!

  • rhinoxious #38 2 years ago

    "But like I said before... why should I give a f*** about sales unless I'm the company or an investor?"

    If you're a PC gamer that likes playing the'odd 'console port' as well as more PC-centric MMOs, then you should worry about sales figures, as eventually they simply won't bother with a PC version of games like CoD. Which means you'll have to learn to use a joypad, and accept lower resolution graphics, if you want to play.

  • andywilkie35 #39 2 years ago

    Hmmm, I could email him and get his specs, or we could just agree that he spent money on the game and then has to spend further money to get his hardware up to date. Or he could have just bought it on the console and been done with it. Ooh decisions!

  • kinky_mong #40 2 years ago

    "Hi Rich, just emailing to remind you to ring the estate agents about the boiler problems. Ohh while I'm here do you fancy emailing me the specs of your PC? Why? Somebody with a chip on their shoulder about the decline of the PC gaming market doesn't believe your year old PC won't run MW2. Yeah it is sad of me to go to these lengths to prove some nobody wrong."

    Won't be sending that email if it's all the same with you.

  • masterson #41 2 years ago

    Perhaps if you all continue to vote down anyone with a negative take of the PC gaming market it will turn things around.
    This war can be won - one click at a time....

  • muscleblade #42 2 years ago

    "What is it that they say again? Only a fool marvels at his own superior intelligence? "

    You started it.

  • paketep #43 2 years ago

    Sorry, but Bowling has demonstrated already that you can't believe anything he says.

    No cookie, IW. Stop defending the sales of your product and concentrate on not releasing a POS.

  • miiiguel #44 2 years ago

    Capcom have always supported PC gaming.
    PC got good ports of all the original Resi games, with extras. They even supported 3DFX.

    That was before PS2. Come on, I'm not attacking you ppl, you're my community colegues, but try to discuss facts not emotions. If PS3 expanded the PS2 monopoly, PC gaming scene would suffer. That's what I said, and it is supported by historical facts.

  • miiiguel #45 2 years ago

    ahah! nice link..., read a litle bit below and compare the number of PS2 games with the PC games. Now do the same excercise with *this gen* Capcom games.
    Btw, did you have fun playing Final Fantasy games on your PC last gen ?

  • Xerx3s #46 2 years ago

    "You started it. "

    Hmm, no, I just mocked your baseless comment. You on the other hand started willywave your supposed intellect on the basis of a supposed personal attack, something you clearly haven't been demonstrating in here.

  • miiiguel #47 2 years ago

    I'm comparing with last gen, you had to have a *PS2* to play most games (some genres like jrpg were simply a no-show anywhere else), you just had to. Nowdays you can have a PC, just a PC. What changed ?

    Don't tell me PC line up was stronger and its gaming scene was healthier last gen, because I really don't think it was.
    Edited by 1 at 23/11/09 @ 11:53

  • dloob #48 2 years ago

    Well it justifies IWs decision to lead development on the consoles and not bother with many PC specific features.
    Why bother for a mere 3% of the market.
    Dedicated servers could have got them a whole 4%

  • miiiguel #49 2 years ago

    Well, anyway, I think 360 did good to PC gaming scene, it brought onto the platform more ecleticism to its library (what was there before? RTS's and FPS's), and an undoubtful dinamic.

  • miiiguel #50 2 years ago

    Believe it or not was not fishing, just having a conversation, not everyone is looking for confrontation you know (don't even understand why saying this is offensive or diminishes the PC gaming scene). And, it's only my opinion, based of facts I've experienced and saw, last gen vs this gen.

  • Steroyd #51 2 years ago

    Well, a bit off-topic'ish, but PC gamers have to admit all in all, 360 helped their library this gen. You wouldn't have this many games if it wasn't for the 360, imo*. Now, there's some colateral damage, like this dedicated servers you dig so much (don't know why).

    I'd say the opposite, consol-ising PC games, are turning people off PC gaming which in turn means less sales which in turn means less support for PC, it doesn't help that Microsoft themselves are turning away from PC gaming to, in favour of the Xbox.

  • General_Zod #52 2 years ago

    @Bloodkult

    Dont feed the troll

  • Rubarack #53 2 years ago

    The PC got a much better port of Resi 5 than Resi 4, and the same for Devil may Cry 4 and 3.Not to mention Street Fighter was all but absent on PC till this gen. It could be other factors but I reckon the 360 is as good an explanation as any. As for the Oblivion factor I think the 360 brought us much higher production values, and while it undoutedly had a consolized interface mods fixed that one up nicely. At the same time I reckon the 360 is probably "stealing" some PC share, just by being a more viable option for previously PC only genres.

  • makeamazing #54 2 years ago

    Unfortunately i dont think it makes a difference that the PC is a better platform in terms of performance. though 3% could be 500,000 copies (who knows) the issue is that this is then relegated to third in importance with regards to features and the primary platform. A few years ago, they would make it on PC first and then port it, now its happening the other way around... of course the casual market is still doing well for PC, and the PC will be a good platform for a long time, but things are just changing.

  • Mooglepies #55 2 years ago

    Download sales aren't counted in these figures, they never are. Realistically it probably sold closer to about 10-15% in the UK, we aren't as PC-focused as other countries in Europe so I doubt it would be higher...

    PC gaming isn't dying and likely never will; it's attractive to the smaller developers because of the sheer amount of PCs out there and the open system where you don't necessarily need a big publisher or budget to get your game out. The only ways in which it would die are if

    A) A mainstream gaming device came out that was an open system (not likely, since platform holders love to keep them as closed systems), or

    B) The PC suddenly becomes a closed system (Is that feasible? I don't know).

    MW2 is still a no buy from me until either I see it for around £25 or if they announce dedicated servers.

  • crozon #56 2 years ago

    yeah well this doesn't take into account steam charts so its pointless. More and more people are buying games on steam.

    Online steam is as big as xbox live.

    Xbox live has hit 2 million concurrent users, same as steam.

    Just this weekend at my lan party 2 friends bought games off steam, borderlands and l4d2.

  • muscleblade #57 2 years ago

    Some people are so sensitive regarding their chosen gaming platform its ridiculous.

    "You on the other hand started willywave your supposed intellect "

    I didnt state that i was intelligent. Learn to read my friend.



  • davisorle #58 2 years ago

    @Xerx3s
    are you unemployed or something? Ive never seen you do somethign better than mock ppl on the comment section. That surely says enough about yourself even if you , for once more, will try to prove the opposite with an irritating clasic "i wont say it but i mean that im smarter than you" comment like a 17 year old blonde bimbo... ffs

    @miiiguel
    It's true. Making a game for the 360 was what made it an easier choice for a lot of significant games the past 4 years to be released also on Windows since developing and programming for those 2 is similar. ( well, all we need to do this time around is check where Valve is releasing titles to know so. Might sound sarcastic and "mean" but im serious and I do love and respect Valve ) Easy examples are RE5, SF IV, Last Remenant. Not to mention all the XBLA games that are roaming around the web for Windows or on Steam most likely. And yeah as someone else mentioned... This 360 controller is a fucking gift from God. Finally, a perfect controller for PC and not just that, all the damn games are preprogrammed to work perfectly with it except Dragon Age so far :)

    As for IW. Someone wondered why the need of Dedicated Servers... Do you know what they are? The reason why PSN lags is cause it lacks of them in almost every game. When you have millions of ppl trying to connect through P2P ( cause in short thats what this is now ) you are bound to connect on someone's connection which not only wont be unstable, chances to drop the connection in which case pauses the game till you find a better host from the ones ingame and whoever pings down first can kill the rest while still loading.. but also the connections themselves arent good enough. Upload bandwidth isnt enough in most households. Also its simply why the freaking player number has been so limited. This is backstepping with a worst online experience for PC gamers. Ofc they will complain. If someone doesnt understand it or doesnt know about it its best to not have an opinion instead of making fool of themselves. Also hope this solves the question of those that dont understand why the fuzz with servers. Ive been disconnected quiet a few times or died from bad connection and aiming left while on screen its still aiming right. Simply annoying.

    To IW. Yeah the numbers might be bigger than last year's but we are talking about an FPS when most ppl expected it to bbe great, yet you fucked up enough, that out of PC, 360 and PC, you sold worst on the PC which is the platform to be best for FPS genre and you sold more on PS3. That says too much itself. If you had done the basics, aka dedicated servers and not possible on the PC to share a file to get a lvl70 hacked account, which is possible to do now, then yeah... You might had not lost so much respect. IW you played like a noob your best card so far. Nothing to be proud of, really.

  • stevetuck #59 2 years ago

    Do what you want, ‘cause a pirate is free,
    YOU ARE A PIRATE!
    Yar har, fiddle di dee,
    Being a pirate is alright to be,
    Do what you want ‘cause a pirate is free,
    You are a pirate!

  • muscleblade #60 2 years ago

    @davisorle

    Good one.

  • UncleLou #61 2 years ago

    but even the most ardent PC devotee cannot fail to have missed the diminishing amount of shelf space allocated to PC titles in games stores

    Actually, I easily can. If anything, shelf space has grown. Consoles are catching up, mind.

    But then I am not in the UK.

  • Orange #62 2 years ago

    Who gives a shit about shelf space when I can buy every game either via digital download or from Jersey retailers for half the price of a graphically and gameplay inferior console version?

  • sneetch #63 2 years ago

    @miiiguel
    Well, anyway, I think 360 did good to PC gaming scene, it brought onto the platform more ecleticism to its library (what was there before? RTS's and FPS's), and an undoubtful dinamic.

    Before the 360? There was pretty much every type of game you have on consoles and more. Strategy games, RTSs, FPSs, RPGs, MMOs (normally MMORPGs), platform games, puzzle games, beat-em-ups, god games like Civ or Black and White, flight simulators and so on and so forth. Nearly every form of game that I can think of has been on PCs before the 360 and PS3 even existed (and those types of games were nearly all on the Xbox, Cube, PS2, N64, Dreamcast, PS1 and so on and so forth). Really miiiguel, if you're not fishing then you didn't really think that through, did you? :)

    I have no doubt that the PC, 360 and PS3 have all helped one another, every cross platform game "helps" all the platforms it's on. Every exclusive invites imitation on the other platforms and those imitators are often better than the original.

    Edit: removed the crimes against the apostrophe.
    Edited by 1 at 23/11/09 @ 15:25

  • fknetwork #64 2 years ago

    Another nail in the coffin for the pc gaming market....

  • Mock #65 2 years ago

    As an avid PC gamer it's sad to see what could be a potential downward spiral in high end PC games that aren't console ports. It's not very surprising though. The same argument that is often thrown across the table by none PC gamers, i.e. the cost and expense of keeping up with hardware "between" generations, is now being thought about long and hard by devs.

    Of course, this was bound to happen. Once a title reaches a silly budget, cost cutting surely won't be far behind.

    This isn't unique to the games industry. It seems pretty familiar when you shift focus from the games industry, to the movie industry, where plot, acting talent and cinematography are dismissed in favor of premise, breasts and CG.

    Shame.

  • Mooglepies #66 2 years ago

    Trolls trolling trolls trolling trolls.

    You can't so much kill PC gaming as much as you remake it into something different; it's happened before, it'll happen again.

    PCs start to become more like consoles which become more like PCs and the cycle continues. As long as the demand for PC games exists so will the supply. They might become more consolised, but then you'll have a plucky company that doesn't worry so much about control of their content willing to open their game up, so the core PC demographic will be sated that way.

    That said, gamers are notoriously resistant to change, moreso than possibly any other community bar religion and politics. It's hard to keep us happy consistently.

    Blood: Nice setup. I have a similar thing going with my 40" samsung. Lovely way to game, Fullscreen Dwarf Fortress on it is hialrious.
    Edited by 1 at 23/11/09 @ 15:20

  • darth_paul #67 2 years ago

    @ miiiguel
    "Now, there's some colateral damage, like this dedicated servers you dig so much (don't know why)"

    had just to log in just to give you the finger. you dont know why dedicated servers are good? maybe because of the almost non existing lag, contrary to p2p servers... maybe...just maybe because of that, consoleretard.

  • sneetch #68 2 years ago

    "Yes, PC is the smallest percentage in terms of how much sold on each platform but that hardly means anything other than the PC is just the smallest market."

    I wonder what he means by "market" if he means "market for MW2, specifically" as I suspect (these guys tend to be careful with their wording after all) then, yes, he's right it is the smallest market. Their decisions made sure of that.

    One thing I'd be interested in here would be seeing Valves breakdown of sales of L4D2 on both PC and 360, I dare say that their PC sales would be significantly higher than 3% of the 360 sales (probably nowhere near 1.7 million of course).

  • AHiFi #69 2 years ago

    So that's about...51k first week boxed sales in the UK? Seems decent to me.

  • sneetch #70 2 years ago

    @Union_Man
    games nowadays are primarily being developed for consoles first and foremost ... with a port on the way to pc months later.

    You sure? Most multi-platform games I've seen lately have been released at the same time on PC, PS3 and Xbox (with perhaps a weeks delay on the PC version, which I suspect is to encourage people to buy on console because of the higher prices).
    Edited by 1 at 23/11/09 @ 15:56

  • GamesConnoisseur #71 2 years ago

    Mass Market is where the investments are going to be, yes there are ebbings and risings, the sea keep changing but don't be fooled that these kind of stats MEAN absolutely nothing.

    Head to head between consoles and PC do show advantages lies. No body is a fool to deny who got the biggest resolution.

    IW is also no fool ad they ll see the share of online sales from Steam etc, so in times of lean dev budgets and priorities will be sometime taken, such as only devote resources to PC or afford it just a straight console port and that it?

    Now how about we just watch this seascape? See if the current is moving more in one way or still plenty for all?

    For me personally I decided I won't bother with further PC upgrades for a while, as too much investment for not enough returns. Diss or mark me down but I ruddy spent a lot in past 15 years ON PC alone. More than ALL my gaming consoles of last 3 gens.

    As I can see for myself what justify where my wallets should go and that is my business?!

    I never wishes for one side or other to suffer but agree PC will never dies just perhaps getting different attention than it may have had at a certain points of time.

  • Pablo2k5 #72 2 years ago

    @ muscleblade " I also use my laptop for games. Peggle is pretty fun."

    Pretty sick of having to respond to morons like you but here goes...

    I use my laptop to play Left4Dead, Killing Floor, Grid, Shattered Horizon, UT3, Gears of War, COD etc etc

    You must have a pretty shit laptop.

    Regarding PC gaming dying, there are loads of articles pointing to the exact opposite... but your comments read like those of a fanboi so I'll never convince you of the truth.

    @ Mooglepies

    Well said sir.
    Edited by 1 at 23/11/09 @ 19:14

  • bad09 #73 2 years ago

    I'm gonna join Bloodkult in laughing at Union_Man, who hasn't touched a PC in a LONG time :)

    My Cyrsis :)

  • LegendPT #74 2 years ago

    The PC version sales would increase, if they just gave us the damn dedicated servers. Is it that hard?

  • roz123 #75 2 years ago

    MW2 sold well on the PC considering its 3rd rate compared to the competition (Due to the lack of dedicated servers, the shortness of the campaign and it lacks any sort of innovation)

    For me the biggest dissapointment this gen is that people stopped pushing the technical boundries after Crysis was pirated to fuckery. Theres little hope in site in that respect as the people hacking the games are 10x better then the guys doing the encryption.

  • azix2 #76 2 years ago

    crysis sold over 1 million didnt it? for a game that required so much to play at the time thats good. If it was released now it still wouldnt have good performance on a lot of the currently available hardware

  • Nephirion #77 2 years ago

    The concern should be for hardware developers if the big publishers just favour funding projects to produce console games, graphically gaming is going to stagnate. Both Nvidia and ATI use PC gamers to fund their R&D into new GPU technologies, eventually some of these end up being part of a console. PC gaming is core to developing of new technologies if publishers ignore the PC it will be bad for gaming as a whole. Modern Warfare 2 contained no graphical innovation and used an old engine with a few shiny textures, if they pass on porting a PC version next time I doubt PC enthusiasts will be missing out on much.

  • clockworkzombie #78 2 years ago

    @davisorle
    The games are server / client not P2P. One person is the host(server) everyone else is a client. I read an article last week, which I cannot now find :( and it said that CoD 3 had a peer to peer matchmaking system. Which would explain why I rarely had lag issues with 3.

  • darth_paul #79 2 years ago

    @ clockworkzombie

    if the players are hosting the server themselves, thats p2p technicaly (peer to peer)...

  • Mooglepies #80 2 years ago

    @ Darth: A misnomer, as far as I know. Technically it's still client/server, just not client/dedicated server.

    Roz: Technical boundaries are still being broached, just in different areas. I'm not as interested in hyper-realism in terms of graphics as I used to be, for me it's now all about games making AI or physics better. Also, Crysis isn't the pinnacle of graphics for me. Mirror's Edge claims that position for being so damned beautiful.