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Infinity Ward defends UK MW2 PC sales News

PC News by Tom Bramwell

23 November, 2009

Infinity Ward has denied that sales of Modern Warfare 2 on PC have been lacklustre, arguing that all the signs actually point to success.

"Yes, PC is the smallest percentage in terms of how much sold on each platform but that hardly means anything other than the PC is just the smallest market," Infinity Ward man Robert Bowling patiently informed fans on the official forum (thanks Kotaku).

"The PC version of Modern Warfare 2 has actually outsold the PC version of Call of Duty 4: Modern Warfare in its first week. Making it the most successful PC version."

Last week's UK charts saw Modern Warfare 2 storm to the top thanks to more than 1.7 million sales in five days.

However, it was later revealed that the PC version accounted for just three per cent of that figure, leading some commentators to suggest it was a big old failure. And by "commentators" we mean "people who probably signed that petition".

"Essentially, all this percentage proves is that the console versions sold great, not that the PC version sold poorly, because that's actually not the case," Bowling explained. "The PC version has done tremendous in its first week, better than our previous game."

Meanwhile, that three per cent of its siblings' total was still enough to top the PC-specific chart, some way clear of Football Manager 2010 and Dragon Age: Origins.

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butler`
23/11/09 @ 08:50
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THE END IS NIGH
Xerx3s
23/11/09 @ 08:51
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"PC gaming is dying."

Ah, it can keep your brain company then.
munki83
23/11/09 @ 08:56
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I wonder if this is because the PC is in decline or that MW2 is being advertised as a console fps. Regardless PC gaming is far from dead its just changing to a different model. MW2 is probably only one of the few games which can get to the sale numbers of The Sims, FM, WoW, HL2.
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23/11/09 @ 09:01
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PC gaming is an 11 BILLION dollar industry and growing, anyone who says it's dying needs there head examined.
munki83
23/11/09 @ 09:02
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@muscleblade

The best of the PC are higher than most console sales. Also PC gaming will never die while my psx3 and 360 will be redundant my pc in some form will always be used for games. Plus with onlive and other similar technologies coming soon consoles will be made redundant within the next 10 years.
Gunzberg
23/11/09 @ 09:03
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3%.....3% ?!??
Bloodkult
23/11/09 @ 09:06
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Hilariously he's got a fairly decent PC yet its already outdated and wouldn't run it.

Can't be that recent. MW will run on pretty much any old shite.
The 8800GT came out in 2006.

Nice try though.
General_Zod
23/11/09 @ 09:06
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@andywilke35

If he cant run MW2 it isnt a fairly decent PC sorry.
the_dudefather
23/11/09 @ 09:08
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that's still about a billion copies of the game given how MW2 has been selling
Eraysor
23/11/09 @ 09:10
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Without any actual sales figures you can't make any judgements at all from just a percentage. It's entirely possible that the console versions simply happened to sell a load more that the PC one, regardless of how many PC units sell (which considering it has sold more than the original, quite a few).

Also I can second MW2 running fine on good gaming PCs from 2 years ago, if not slightly more.
mcbi4kh2
23/11/09 @ 09:10
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MW will run on pretty much any old shite.
The 8800GT...


I have an 8800GT :(
Steroyd
23/11/09 @ 09:11
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There was a big uproar about there being no Dedicated servers, so maybe that's why more people jumped on the console versions than they normally would.
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23/11/09 @ 09:12
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it's easy to say pc gaming is dying thanks to the poor sales of mw2 on pc, while compleatly being an utter idiot and overlooking the fact that had they not screwd up majority of their fanbase on pc with the mess they call multiplayer, it would've most definetly enjoyed far better sales than it did now.
Pc gaming a small market? riight.. tell that to the millions of people playing mmos and the companies rolling in their cash flow, or to the people still playing old rts/fps etc. games online.. why? oh oh they got dedicated servers! so they can enjoy their favourites years after release.
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23/11/09 @ 09:17
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Hey, I'm not dissing the 8800GT ;) it's still a great card, I've got an old first gen 8800GTX in one of my setups, and it'll still run MW2 better than the consoles at console resolution.

Just pointing out they and their equivalents are so cheap now, you can't claim a "decent PC" if you can't even run MW2.
I know for a fact you could run the last game maxed out on a £50 9600GT, which is itself a cut-down 8800.
muscleblade
23/11/09 @ 09:18
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"PC gaming is an 11 BILLION dollar industry and growing, anyone who says it's dying needs there head examined. "

OK then. I also use my laptop for games. Peggle is pretty fun. Dying is a strong word. Wasnt meant to be taken literally anyway.
UncleLou
23/11/09 @ 09:28
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"PC gaming is dying. "

PC game retail sales in the UK are dead, more like.

PC gaming is doing fine.
Bloodkult
23/11/09 @ 09:28
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Another thing, this article is only for retail sales.
PC gamers surprisingly don't buy their games from Sainsbury's and Morrisons (where I'm guessing most of the console vers sales came from), firstly because they generally don't stock them, (which you can repeat for any other supermarket and Gamestation) and secondly, why bother when the console version is half the price due to various price wars?

Without numbers or Steam sales the article doesn't really tell us anything.
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23/11/09 @ 09:29
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It's just the perception of percentages probably.

The actual sold for PS3 and 360 could actually be a lot more bigger than than with COD4MW, and just overshadow the still high actual sales of the PC version.

But like I said before... why should I give a f*** about sales unless I'm the company or an investor?
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23/11/09 @ 09:39
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For retail I can understand that, I found one shop selling it on PC and they only had a couple of copies. It's been a top seller on Steam for a while though (and I think they don't release sales figures or something) so I reckon overall it's more than 3%.

Mind you, if you do want it you are best off buying a retail copy from somewhere and unlocking it on Steam, save yourself some money. £40 quid? hahahahahaha!
kwesleyb
23/11/09 @ 09:46
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The PC is the only gaming option in my house for me, and long may that continue. PC gaming is dying? Pfft, go away...
StooMonster
23/11/09 @ 10:03
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Everyone I know who purchased this title bought it on Steam, is that included in the 3% sales figures?
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23/11/09 @ 10:14
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Modern Warfare 2 for PC is a console port, adding keyboard and mouse support doesnt make it a PC game. The multiplayer is the same as the console, totally gimped at 18 players. The enviroment textures close up are low res ports from the console version so im suprised so many people bought it for PC.
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23/11/09 @ 10:17
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It's my understanding that Steam figures aren't included in the UK charts, I don't think any of the online services are because they don't release their figures to ChartTrack. Same reason you don't ever see any XBLA or PSNetwork games appear in the UK charts, they don't reveal the numbers.
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23/11/09 @ 10:24
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Well, a bit off-topic'ish, but PC gamers have to admit all in all, 360 helped their library this gen. You wouldn't have this many games if it wasn't for the 360, imo*. Now, there's some colateral damage, like this dedicated servers you dig so much (don't know why).

* - Judging from the times there was only PS2.
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23/11/09 @ 10:27
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@ miiiguel

Well the library is a stretch apart from which most of it is on PS3 as well, that's what multiplatform is you see. ;). But....

....the 360 (well more MS than the console) has saved PC a bit this gen for me. Decent controllers!!!! \o/ \o/ \o/
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23/11/09 @ 10:30
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I'm just saying, that I *really* doubt you would have Square or even Capcom AAA titles for the PC if there was only PS, like in the (early) previous gen. For example.
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23/11/09 @ 10:36
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@ miiiguel

Yeah I see what you mean actually. SF4 (and all their multiplatform now I believe) was done on PC and ported to the consoles as that was easier and that's worked out well for everyone :)

That might not have been the case had Sony had no competition this gen.
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Xerx3s
23/11/09 @ 10:43
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"Personal attacks eh, thats intelligent."
No, just mocking stupid comments.

"I have nothing against PC gaming but the sales of PC games arent up there with the console games. Sorry to say."
Rubbish. The PC market is a completely different market than consoles. Just because a console game doesn't sell well on the PC, doesn't mean that the PC is dying. For one thing, there are far more games on the PC market and the price competition is also much stronger. Ergo, games have to work a lot harder to earn money. On the flip side of that, the PC market also has a much longer sales loop instead of the usual 1st week sales only that 95% of console games see.

"Pretty sure im smarter than you anyway."
You most likely are but saying such things makes you an idiot so that cancels it out. What is it that they say again? Only a fool marvels at his own superior intelligence?
Bloodkult
23/11/09 @ 10:48
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Capcom have always supported PC gaming.
PC got good ports of all the original Resi games, with extras. They even supported 3DFX.
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23/11/09 @ 10:50
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@ Bloodkult

Right stop right there. The original Resi games are on PC? Christ I didn't know that! Where can I can 'em legally on the download?
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23/11/09 @ 10:51
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i am sorry to say that but if PC gamers are saing this isnt a bad sign for PC gaming they are just ostrichs putting their heads in the sand.

Sure, PC has some options like MMORPGs and casual games but core gaming is console led and thats not gonna change. You may blame developers, pirates or Microsoft, but its all the same. the most spread gaming platform is in shit.
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23/11/09 @ 10:54
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No idea why everyone seems to be giving muscleblade a hard time. His potted summary of the state of PC gaming was certainly a bit of a sweeping statement, but even the most ardent PC devotee cannot fail to have missed the diminishing amount of shelf space allocated to PC titles in games stores, the smaller amount of multiplatform titles leading on PC or the lowly position a PC best seller occupies on the all-format charts in the last 5 years or so. You may not like this state of affairs, but to deny it is folly. Of course there are certain types of game that remain best suited to PC (MMOs, RTS etc, etc) but when it comes to high budget action titles (which is what this thread was about) it cannot be denied the PC market is a shadow of its former self.
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Bloodkult
23/11/09 @ 10:56
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Where can I can 'em legally on the download?

Not sure about download, but you can get boxed versions of anything from Resi 2 up on the budget Xplosive range for a few quid if you hunt around.

I've got a boxed 3DFX version of the first (they released an accelerated and non-accelerated version) but I've no idea if it still works on modern hardware.
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23/11/09 @ 10:59
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I can back andywilkie35 up because said friend is my housemate. The reason he can't run MW2 is because his graphics card doesn't support the shaders the game requires, other than that his PC is more than capable.

So he could spend £100+ to update his graphics card to play the game with a small userbase populated by condescending whiners, or he could buy it for his PS3. I know what I would do in that situation.
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even the most ardent PC devotee cannot fail to have missed the diminishing amount of shelf space allocated to PC titles in games stores

Oh No! What reason could there possibly be for this!?
Does this mean XBLA is dead too?
and iPhone gaming!?

Or do you think it's because PC gamers have no reason to buy stuff from the shop anymore, with every company under the sun offering digi downloads that don't count towards charttracks figures?
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23/11/09 @ 11:02
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Damn! thanks for the info I'll start hunting!

Oh, these "PC is dying", "no shelf space", " no PC in the charts" etc people I would be careful. Next year DD sales are to be tracked (not the console stuff though). Also, 2006-2009, if you take DD into account, it is down (it would be of course 360 and PS3 are good machines) but nowhere near the doom you all think.

http://www.next-gen.biz/news/gfk-chart-t...
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Bloodkult
23/11/09 @ 11:03
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So he could spend £100+ to update his graphics card to play the game

Bollocks. He could spend £30 on 8600GT and still play it at console settings.
You really don't have a clue. Let's see the specs of this PC.
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23/11/09 @ 11:03
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Wahey! Best thing is that a fellow EGer has backed me up because he lives with him, win!
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23/11/09 @ 11:04
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"But like I said before... why should I give a f*** about sales unless I'm the company or an investor?"

If you're a PC gamer that likes playing the'odd 'console port' as well as more PC-centric MMOs, then you should worry about sales figures, as eventually they simply won't bother with a PC version of games like CoD. Which means you'll have to learn to use a joypad, and accept lower resolution graphics, if you want to play.
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Hmmm, I could email him and get his specs, or we could just agree that he spent money on the game and then has to spend further money to get his hardware up to date. Or he could have just bought it on the console and been done with it. Ooh decisions!
Bloodkult
23/11/09 @ 11:11
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He could try running it on a PC that's not over 6 years old with an integrated intel graphics chipset.

Come on, let's see the specs of this PC that's apparently really good but doesn't support Shader model 3.0 from 2004.
kinky_mong
23/11/09 @ 11:23
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"Hi Rich, just emailing to remind you to ring the estate agents about the boiler problems. Ohh while I'm here do you fancy emailing me the specs of your PC? Why? Somebody with a chip on their shoulder about the decline of the PC gaming market doesn't believe your year old PC won't run MW2. Yeah it is sad of me to go to these lengths to prove some nobody wrong."

Won't be sending that email if it's all the same with you.
Bloodkult
23/11/09 @ 11:28
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How about you stop talking pish about something you've blatantly no clue about then?

What do you mean my eeePC won't run Crysis! It's only a year old!
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23/11/09 @ 11:32
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Perhaps if you all continue to vote down anyone with a negative take of the PC gaming market it will turn things around.
This war can be won - one click at a time....

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