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Infinite Undiscovery Review

Xbox 360 PlayStation 3 Review by Dan Whitehead

8 September, 2008

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You only ever have direct control of Capell, and the closest he comes to magical abilities is his flute, which can play tunes with different effects. If you want to utilise other attacks, you need to "Connect" with the other character's abilities, which enables you to direct their specific special attacks, or to aim ranged attacks. It sounds interesting, but it's an inelegant solution to a simple problem, and one that requires close proximity to the character in question and far too much button-fiddling for a game that gives you no breathing room in battle. You could get the exact same effect far more efficiently simply by swapping control to other characters completely, learning those abilities yourself or just being able to pause the game while in the menu. As with so many of the supposedly revolutionary features, it seems tri-Ace was so busy thinking up different ways to do the same old things, they didn't bother to check if the result actually improved the experience for the player.

Instead you spam away on the fast and strong attacks, using the same three combos over and over. Your companion's AI is actually extremely good, which means you rarely have to worry about them. The enemy, on the other hand, is hilariously stupid and so any team with a decent emphasis on healing spells and a stock of health potions is able to stomp through huge swathes of the game with little to no challenge. There are even moments where the whole cast is utilised, with you dividing the characters up into three different teams to fulfil different combat objectives at the same time. It's a great idea - one that could have defined the game with a more thoughtful design - but it's used so rarely and in such uninspired ways that it feels more like an afterthought than a stroke of genius.

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That's not even the full cast of team members. Good luck equipping them all...and remembering their names.

That's probably just as well, since while combat is the game's dominant element it's also the most technically problematic. The frame-rate is a fragile beast, felled by the slightest activity on screen, and this isn't just an occasional dip under extraordinary circumstances. Every hit results in an explosive burst of light, and it seems this is just too much for the limping engine to handle. Just Capell's strong attack, used on its own against a couple of foes, can result in a frame-rate that looks more like a series of freeze frames. As you'd expect given this poor showing under basic conditions, as the battles become larger the game runs progressively slower. Mass Effect showed that a compelling game can overcome an imperfect graphics engine, but this level of near-constant slowdown is simply unacceptable.

It's not even as if the game is all that special to look at. The character models are decent, if oddly doll-like, but environments are empty and without interaction or features of note. Invisible walls block apparently open plains, while the way ahead almost always involves slogging around the map, looking for some unmarked canyon that will lead you to the next area. High-def aside, there's really nothing here that the PS2 couldn't have handled - and indeed did handle, with the more impressive sections of Final Fantasy XII. Even the audio is dodgy, with voice acting that ranges from passable to atrocious. At least, that's when the game is actually using dialogue. It frequently switches to silent subtitled narrative scenes, sometimes within the same story sequence, with jarring effect.

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The token impressive CG cut-scene screenshot that makes the game look like Final Fantasy.

There's a modicum of replay value, since the different difficulty levels feature more content the harder they get, but these take the form of more (or different) story scenes rather than any serious amount of additional gameplay. Side quests, such as they are, simply involve stumbling across Person X, taking some item from them, and delivering it to Person Y in some distant town - usually the one you're conveniently headed towards. Although you're free to trek between maps, there's no quick way of moving around the game world and as the story keeps moving you in one direction, the incentive to explore dims with each passing hour. For those who keep track of such things, you can expect to spend between twenty and thirty hours on a normal playthrough.

With Star Ocean IV and Tales of Vesperia due next year, and Final Fantasy on its way to the 360, this needed to be something quite special to make its mark in a genre not known for its deviations from formula. Yet at its best Infinite Undiscovery is just another standard action JRPG following a strictly linear route through the same predictable story about another reluctant young hero overthrowing yet another evil empire. In its worst moments, it's an unwieldy collision of ill-conceived ideas and sloppy technical implementation that will test the patience of even the most hardened player. Such flaws are really only worth tolerating if you're so devoted to the JRPG genre that you'd settle for mediocrity rather than wait for the good stuff.

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GuiltySpark
08/09/08 @ 06:37
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That read more like a 6.
RedPanda
08/09/08 @ 06:41
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"This far into the game, Capell's level is now higher than the frame-rate."

Ouch! :D
myke6699
08/09/08 @ 06:47
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I hope they bring this to PS3.
Windsong
08/09/08 @ 06:55
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Gah..RROD aside, its looking less and less likely I'll get a 360 even on a clearance sale with turds like this being sold as "top tier" games. Oh well, guess I'm "stuck" with my dual core/x3870. Tsk Tsk..*anxiously awaits Dragon Age/Diablo3*
morriss
08/09/08 @ 07:08
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Sounds like someone picked the wrong day to stop sniffing glue.
morriss
08/09/08 @ 07:08
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Windsong: what are you talking about?
Zomoniac
08/09/08 @ 07:15
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'Top Tier'?? I've barely heard anything about it. I'm trying to remember if I'd even heard of it prior to noticing it appear on my friends list on Friday. I certainly don't think anyone was trying to push it as a system seller.
locus2k1
08/09/08 @ 07:23
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damn, i pre-ordered this.... still hasnt arrived though. Wonder if play wont mind me sending it back sealed once it arrives lol

bleh, may give it a try - havent played a JRPG since Lost Odyssey
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LeD
08/09/08 @ 07:33
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Reads more like a 3 actually.
Xerx3s
08/09/08 @ 07:37
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An above average jrpg then? >:p
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08/09/08 @ 07:49
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@Windsong

Go find some friend to show off that great PC of yours instead of trolling mediocre 360 titles threads.

I'm quite fond of the genre, but this looked pretty mediocre in the previews already (lame characters, horrible voice acting). Hope Last Remnant and Valkyria are better. Ah well, still have to finish LO.
actionfitz
08/09/08 @ 08:00
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oooooouuuch.
might have picked this up under different circumstances.
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drumbaby
08/09/08 @ 08:03
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Only on Xbox!
morriss
08/09/08 @ 08:05
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/tries to remember the last PS3 JRPG

Something is better than nothing lolamirite
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Steroyd
08/09/08 @ 08:10
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/tries to remember the last PS3 JRPG

Disgaea 3 last week?

Oh yeah lol Europe lmao.
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08/09/08 @ 08:15
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God, even 5/10 JRPG threads end up in PS3lol, 360lol stuff. Even PC gamers gegting into the mix now. Someone should blow up the internet. Gives fanboys the chance to direct their energy in a positive way I say
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Walshicus
08/09/08 @ 08:18
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I'm six hours into it so far, and it's not that bad. Feels like an MMO without the crap. The first hour was slow I'll grant, but combat is fun enough to keep pushing. And there are some funny tongue in cheek moments hidden away - for instance one of the characters' skill page lists him as a cunning linguist. Not gaffaw funny, but smirk inducing none-the-less.

Ironic that EG's 5/10 for Mercenaries 2 pushed me to buy IU over it.
Widge
08/09/08 @ 08:19
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Oh well, scrub this one off the radar. (I'm assuming its appearing on the PS3 with the blue box logo on the main page)
To be honest, I found the Star Ocean 3 battle system a bit sucky too. Find effective move, spam on all enemies. Give me old Mr ATB anytime!
Dizzy
08/09/08 @ 08:26
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JRPGs have been stuck in the same pattern for ages. Never look to JRPGs to bring something new. That being said... they have their fans (and for a reason).
DanMW
08/09/08 @ 08:33
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Blue Dragon got a 5 from eurogamer too, and I quite enjoyed that one. If you get the chance to play it, do so and judge for yourself.

I'll give IU it a rent for now, as I have other gaming priorities, all released within the next couple of months.
Vanmunt
08/09/08 @ 08:36
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The review is pretty much right summing up the faults of the game, poor start, crap graphics etc.. however 18 hrs into the game and too be honest it is not that bad.

It is a darn site better than that sh*te 'Eternal Sonata' that the critics raved about, if you like rpg's then add 2 to the score.. get this one wrapped up in time for the next 5 out of 10 'Force Unleashed'.
creepylizard
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I thought Blue Dragon was pants...and I love the genre.....at least I thought I did...
chrisno21
08/09/08 @ 08:42
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I've had this since thursday and haven't had a chance to start it yet. Think I'll start Star Ocean 3 again instead...
Walshicus
08/09/08 @ 08:42
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The problem is that the reviewer points out all the flaws, and is absolutely right in his identifying of them... but I can't help but think the game is more than one minus the sum of its flaws. By rights it should be a 5/10, but there's something addictive about it.
Retroid [mod]
08/09/08 @ 08:45
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Bless the fanboys, laying this game at the 360's door rather than SquareEnix themselves.

I've not been awaiting this at all, Last Remnant looked more interesting. Hopefully it'll be less painfully average than this and more like Lost Odyssey which I rather liked!
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08/09/08 @ 08:52
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The best thing about picking this game up on friday was after playing it for about an hour it made me go back and pick up Disc 4 of lost odyssey and now I'm having fun again trying to finish that off.
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08/09/08 @ 08:53
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Review is crap as usual,jrpg and western reviewer=disaster
jonsaan
08/09/08 @ 08:53
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Worst name ever.
The Bodybuilder
08/09/08 @ 08:57
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final fantasy
lost odyssey
last remnant
infinite undiscovery.


OnlyMe
08/09/08 @ 09:02
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So, worse than Enchanted Arms?
miiiguel
08/09/08 @ 09:09
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"but the fact remains, that the very best JRPGs on the 360 are pretty much the bare minimum standard on the PS2, and now the DS."
Care to comment the ones on PS3 ? are they all that? who are they?
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08/09/08 @ 09:10
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Some of the specialists like official Xbox have started awarding this with 8's, they say the game gets better the further you get into it - i'm not convinced by this review, it sounds like some of the ideas such as the connecting to other characters and the way its implemented goes down well in stuff like the Lego games, but gets dismissed here out of hand
FabricatedLunatic
08/09/08 @ 09:10
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I'm around 13 hours in and while I broadly agree with this review, I'm enjoying the game nonetheless. There's something compulsive about the combat, even if everything else is mediocre.
Dizzy
08/09/08 @ 09:11
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>Look! Another shit 360 exclusive!

Look! Another hedbog trolling exclusive. 3/10 I would say.

Lemme try as well. What about "Better shit exclusives than no exclusives?"
miiiguel
08/09/08 @ 09:12
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"miiiguel can't read."
True, and in english even worse.
miiiguel
08/09/08 @ 09:19
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cant do math very well either. Mas português aposto que sei um bocadinho melhor que o sr..

anyway, on topic I usual develop an esoteric retaliship with jRPGs and some just click like Blue Dragon, and found LO just average. Don´t know what's dood, sounds like a name of a bird. The PS3 comment was hinest though as I think there aren't many or any.
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08/09/08 @ 09:20
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I think the worst aspect of this is that if you're a JRPG fan and 360 owner this is basically your only option until Square shits out Last Remnant (which I suspect will also be terrible), because apparently while Square are capable of doing a worldwide release for a mediocre non-franchised game and have it available in every territory within the space of a couple of weeks, the significantly larger and more powerful Namco Bandai aren't even able to get the latest (and vastly superior) installment in their signature JRPG franchise out in Europe in the same fucking year. Apparently Tales of Vesperia doesn't even have a PAL publisher yet. I wish they'd stop being dicks over region coding.
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08/09/08 @ 09:22
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"but the fact remains, that the very best JRPGs on the 360 are pretty much the bare minimum standard on the PS2, and now the DS."
Care to comment the ones on PS3 ? are they all that? who are they?


He said PS2, not PS3. And I would have to agree. The 360 might be getting a lot of JRPGs, but they aren't very good ones. In fact, I can't think of ANY good modern JRPGs on ANY format, and I used to love the things. (Disgaea isn't a JRPG, it's a turn-based strategy game)

It would appear that the Japanese RPG developers are too stuck in tradition, and refuse to move away from it. Never mind.
DanWhitehead
08/09/08 @ 09:22
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it sounds like some of the ideas such as the connecting to other characters and the way its implemented goes down well in stuff like the Lego games, but gets dismissed here out of hand

The Connect system is nothing like anything in the Lego games, that's why. It's a clumsy multi-button way of doing something that should be very simple and, in a realtime RPG, that's a terrible design decision.
JediMasterMalik
08/09/08 @ 09:24
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/called it
FabricatedLunatic
08/09/08 @ 09:32
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The connect system is a big fat waste of time. Not once have I had the AI perform a spell in battle, partly because combat is not pausable, and partly because they do a decent enough job without my input. All I do is hammer away with the same combos, something I'm oddly content with.
ParanoidZombie
08/09/08 @ 09:42
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seasidebaz wrote: "In fact, I can't think of ANY good modern JRPGs on ANY format"

Check metacritics: blue dragon, eternal sonata, lost odyssey, tales of vesperia, just to name a few. If you don't like them, that's your problem.
anomagnus
08/09/08 @ 09:45
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half way through this game, second disc last night

i REALLY do not know what is up with Eurogamer anymore, i seriously think they dont know how to review games

this is a 7, maybe a n 8. It plays way differently than most RPGS, and some of the action sequences are really good.

my advice is, with any jprg, give it some time. Its fun, but short.

Eurogamer basically is becoming one of the worst review sites i've ever come across

The voice acting is variable, sigmund is good, i thought capell was good to. Its not going to set the world on fire, but it looks good, it plays a lot more like Mass Effect than Final Fantasy, but its an action romp.

If oyu dont like JRPGS, this is different enough to interest you. If you do, it s ahort term fix. The Last Remenant is out in November, this at least is a small fix.

Again, just ignore EG's review, they are INCREDIBLY out of touch and/or jaded with games. Recent failures include Viking, Too Human and Mercenaries.

Basically, i think EG is no longer prepared to even consider a game anymore unless its perfect in every fucking regard. They have no patience, or love for the genre anymore.

I think their entire review team should be taken off, and replaced, as it is, i have zero faith in them to write a review anymore
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menage
08/09/08 @ 09:49
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Yeah, always funny how people come screaming into a JRPG thread saying the whole genre sucks. Maybe it does for them, but that won't make me play em less.





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I'm playing through this at the moment and although it's not perfect, it's still very enjoyable. The game as a whole reminds me of Rogue Galaxy. It may not be up there with Eternal Sonata or Lost Odyssey, but it's certainly better than Enchanted Arms.
ParanoidZombie
08/09/08 @ 10:01
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This thread reminds me of the blue dragon's thread 1 year ago... Does that mean that IU is as good as BD? I hope so, I really enjoyed BD, and was shocked by the 5/10 review.
Der_tolle_Emil
08/09/08 @ 10:02
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I had high hopes in this after playing the fantastic Eternal Sonata and I am a bit disappointed now. On the other hand there are many good games coming out now that the summer break is over that I'm somewhat glad I can skip this. I wanted it to be good but I really don't think that I will have trouble filling the 40 hours or so this game would have taken me with other games.
ParanoidZombie
08/09/08 @ 10:05
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@frod: I hope FF12 cries, god I hate this game so much I wish it was a ninja gaiden 2 boss so I could obliterate him.
spookyzombie
08/09/08 @ 10:06
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It may not be up there with Eternal Sonata or Lost Odyssey

Persona 3 and FFXII are crying :'(

Which is fine if you want to take the Delorean for a spin looking for a storm on your journey to the early noughties ; /
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08/09/08 @ 10:10
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I'm about 7 hours in and enjoying this quite a lot. It has a fair few flaws, and that early section in the forest is utterly horrible, but everything since that has OK for me.

I'd lump this with Earth Defense Force, and Dead Rising; good bad games, flawed but fun.



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