inFamous Comments by Tom Bramwell
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@eviil, "Anyway, predictable score for a PS3 exclusive on EG."
Spot on. Good Work. Oh, but: Demon's Souls 9/10 Noby Noby Boy 9/10 White Knight Chronicles 8/10 Flower 8/10 Killzone 2 9/10 Resistance 2 9/10 Valkyria Chronicles 8/10 Disgaea 3: Absence of Justice 8/10 Wipeout HD 9/10 etc. All predictable scores for PS3 exclusives here at EG. |
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'That IGN score doesn't look so credible now... '
IGN have regular podcasts from which you can gage what type of games they enjoy, seemingly their tastes match mine. EG, Edge, Gamecentral, I find myself disagreeing with most of their reviews, most of the time. I bought Noby Noby Boy based on an EG review, turns out it's pretencious crap, but some how more credible than a straight up, fun, game.
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originalthinking
20/05/09 @ 18:23
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Oh Eurogamer, always wanting to be different! I don't take any gaming sites review as gospel as i've seen some bizarre scoring on a lot of games from different publications and for all the criticism of its existence and importance to the games industry i'll be taking my lead from Metacritic, which will generally round out the overly positive reviews (IGN normally) and the overly negative reviews (typically Eurogamer/Edge) giving me a better idea of whether a game is good or not. Given that Infamous is still sitting at 86/100 i'm pretty confident i'm gonna enjoy this. On that note Dead Space (another 7/10 game from Eurogamer) was easily one of my favourite games of last year.
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dominalien
20/05/09 @ 18:56
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Interesting. After reading what IGN wrote, I was on the verge of preordering it. Can't wait to try the demo tomorrow and make up my own mind :-)
Ironically for me, EG's "great" games like KZ2, NNB, Flower, etc, (note that I'm only talking about games which I can play; I do not feel entitled to comment on Halo 3 or Gears, since I've not played them due to lack of access to a 360), hold no interest for me whatsoever. On the other hand, since I enjoyed immensely the EG7-ish Dead Space and the EG7-ish Heavenly Sword, I'm pretty sure I'm going to enjoy the 7-ish inFamous as well. :-D |
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N@:
"Um, does this game have an easy mode? I want to get it but that 'do anything for Trish' video looked a bloody nightmare." Yep, there's an easy mode. I played it on normal. There's also a harder level. I think you can adjust it mid-game. Oh, and the Trish mission isn't actually as hard as I made it look - that was my first go, and I managed a lot better on subsequent ones. Coin-Op: "I know the reviewer is having a bad hair day and is going to be as hard as possible on the game" Heh, it was quite the opposite with inFamous actually. I was hating it on Friday when I was stuck into some of the weaker middle missions, but by the time I finished it over the weekend I was much more upbeat about it.
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"It's left up to your enemies and the level design to keep things interesting, but neither does a good job. You often simply trawl through typical locations (warehouses, tunnels, and mazes of shipping containers) blasting bad-guys from behind the cover system until there are no more". I'd love to know how this differs AT ALL to GTA IV and yet that franchise is constantly hailed as the second coming.
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local_celebrity
20/05/09 @ 19:15
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@originalthinking
Here's an idea. Instead of poring over a load of ultimately meaningless numbers, how about you actually read the review and see whether you're persuaded by the reviewer's logic? Ask yourself, does this person look at games the same way I do? Do we share the same aesthetic criteria? Oh no, that would involve thinking for yourself. Forget it. |
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Demo is pretty good... Make up your mind playing the demo because it's better than a 7 judging from that and all the other reviews
Vandal: InFamous Review - 8.8/10 GameDaily: InFamous Review - 9/10 Kikizo: InFamous Review - 8.5/10 Level7: InFamous Review - 9/10 Meristation: InFamous Review - 8.5/10 GameReactor SE: InFamous Review - 8/10 Gamereactor FI : 9/10 Gamereactor NO : 9/10 GameReactor DK: InFamous Review - 9/10 Spong: InFamous Review - 96/100 Videogamer: InFamous Review - 8/10 [Video Review] CVG: InFamous Review - 8.5/10 Gaming Age: InFamous Review - A-/A+ 1UP: InFamous Review - A- Eurogamer: InFamous Review - 7/10 Gameplayer: InFamous Review - 8.5/10 Game of Honor: InFamous Review - 9.2/10 IGN: InFamous Review - 9.2/10 IGN UK: InFamous Review - 9.0/10 IGN AU: InFamous Review - 8.6/10 |
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originalthinking
20/05/09 @ 20:52
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@local celebrity
Angry much? I did read the review text! As it happens i've been interested in this game way before the reviews, and had it pre-ordered at Shop.To for a wee while now. Not sure what your point is, but for me i was simply making the point that i don't look at reviews in singular fashion. Normally for me a 7/10 game, wouldn't be enough to part with £40 pounds so i like to get a second opinion, so i visit Metacritic check the overall rating they have and read a cross sample of the reviews. In this case i've read the IGN, 1up, Eurogamer and CVG reviews. As per my earlier point if i'd just read the Eurogamer Dead Space review and it's criticisms of the game i might have changed my mind on it, but having read plenty elsewhere i bought the game and feel that Eurogamer was unfairly harsh giving it a 7/10. I especially disagree with the pacing comments/tension in the review text or the fact that elements of the game were 'a chore'. That was not my experience of the game at all. Given that once again Eurogamer is so different from the 'norm' in terms of it's criticisms of the game and the review score i feel that once again they may have erred on the harsh side. Time will tell when i have copy of the game myself in a week and a half. |
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@ shotgun44
You mentioned earlier about not feeling that Gears or Halo were any better than Uncharted or Killzone. Now, fair enough - different games are going to click with different people, and if you're enjoying it, it doesn't matter what the blue number says. Buuuut . . . (and this may be the wrong place to start up this conversation, so I hope people don't come after me with torches and pitchforks) . . I felt that Halo 3 absolutely deserved it's 10. Halo 3 brought so much to the table, all on one disc, for the same price as any other major game. In addition to a great, satisfying single-player, and world class balanced multipalyer, everything it offers in terms of fostering the community - playlists, robust matchmaking, save films, film/screenshot sharing, and user created content in The Forge (!), I feel you can make a strong case for Halo 3 being a stand out game. Which doesn't mean that you aren't allowed to enjoy a game with a lower number more - but its depth of content and overall polish have to come into play where reviews and scoring are concerned. But yes - I think I'm a little off topic. ; )
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MrDurandPierre
20/05/09 @ 21:10
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Tom,
Did you play through the good or evil path? Just curious as I'm rather indecisive myself. Thierry Nguyen at 1up.com played through on the evil path and loved the game, calling the ending "grandiose and awesome," and I'm curious if the playing through the "good" way makes it any more or less so.
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@ Quint2020
I'd love to know how this differs AT ALL to GTA IV and yet that franchise is constantly hailed as the second coming. Have you played a GTA IV?? Have you taken a stroll or a drive around Liberty City? Yes, there are numerous sections of the game where you shoot enemies on docks and in warehouses. But, if you're not completely blind, surely you'd have noticed that there is an incredible amount more to the game.. Dozens of distinct, incredibly fun vehicles, compelling characters who you can befriend, date and betray . . culturally savvy writing and satire, 16 or so radio stations - each brimming with killer music and wry celebrity DJs, dynamic weather, traffic, population behaviors, hours and hours of side missions and secondary objectives in addition to the main plotlines . . all up, GTA IV's triumph is that it creates a living, breathing city, and lets you explore it on your own terms, through the eyes of a compelling, flawed protagonist. If you truly think, as your comment above suggests, that two radically different games sharing one or two similar properties makes them completely on par with each other, then you sir are misguided indeed.
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"I'd love to know how this differs AT ALL to GTA IV and yet that franchise is constantly hailed as the second coming."
That was because of reviewer group think. Once in a while some magazines score an 'exclusive' review for a big new sequel, getting the pretty much guaranteed 10/10s on the net in no time and then the rest follows suit, all on the magnificent but fickle wave of hype. A few months later they realise how wrong they were and they take some of their praise back, in general in other articles/reviews rather than do a proper 'after-the-hype re-review', keeping that ridiculous 98% metacritic rating intact... Haven't decided yet about this game. In general I don't like sandbox games. Especially not sandbox games that sacrifice proper gameplay so that you waste time on meaningless distractions in a setting that is mindblowing on first sight, impressive the next 5 minutes and falls apart after that...
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GamesConnoisseur
20/05/09 @ 22:11
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I POSIT that I cannot CONFIRM or DENY EG score until I ACTUALLY played the game and FORMED my own JUDGEMENT.
NUFF SAID! Those arguing pro and against the SCORE without EVEN playing the game are MENTALS! Even if relying on other reviewers, HOW heck do we know who is nearly right, mostly right or abject way off the mark?! People crying about 7/10 are actually upset that this will pulls down Metacritic/gameranking more than anything. I know cos I was one of those! |
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@Reihn
Fair enough. There's a big enough fan base out there that says it is awesome. I really enjoyed the original and never played the second. I just started Halo 3 the other day and it just didn't grab me as instantly as I would've liked given all the praise. I'll give it a proper go after my exams when I won't feel guilty! I put Mass Effect down for a month cos and picked up again3 days ago and completed it in 2. I might be viewing Halo harshly since I have only gotten about 25 mins into it! |
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?Yep, there's an easy mode. I played it on normal. There's also a harder level. I think you can adjust it mid-game. Oh, and the Trish mission isn't actually as hard as I made it look - that was my first go, and I managed a lot better on subsequent ones?
Okie dokie, think I'll put it on easy to avoid possible pad throwage. :p |
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@evilfoxhound, "Yes, rotmm miss out all the rest ;) Convinient."
The rest of what? By stating that 7 is a predictable score for a PS3 exclusive here, then there would have to be a track record of most PS3 games scoring, shock-horror, 7/10. That is clearly not the case. However, what you have shown is that you actually expected the game to be worth nothing more than 7/10 and in that you were spot-on. Congratulations. |
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Downloaded and played the demo this evening (got a code ages ago for an early taster - finally got round to it a day before it's available anyway). I have to say that the small amount of inFamous that I've played has really impressed me. It really does look like an excellent game! Any doubts - download the demo and have a play... Sucker Punch have a pretty good pedigree imho.
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Man you guys are getting predictable:
1. PS3 or wii game gets good review.. Cue lots of 360 owners slagging off ps3/wii 2. PS3 or wii game gets bad review... Cue lots of 360 owners slagging off ps3/wii 3. Exclusive game gets a good review of a 7 or an 8 score, owners of said machine (who HAVENT EVEN PLAYED THE GAME YET!!?!!?!?!) cry that the game should've gotten 1 point higher - as if it matters jack shit to them.. And as PROOF the website is biased against their machine. SMelly: Comes in, tells you all this stuff... everyone starts on smelly - everyone hates me.
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feistycheese
20/05/09 @ 23:16
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Heres a novel concept guys, instead of looking at the 7/10, then walking away with a tear in your eye, why not look at a bunch of reviews from other sites, take an average, and then figure out what the game might actually be like. 7 out of 10's not even a bad score, does everybody only play games now that have 9/10? You were all born with a brain gents, how about we all learn to use it for ourselves and stop letting a 7/10 make our mind up for us.
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dirigiblebill
20/05/09 @ 23:17
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"I POSIT that I cannot CONFIRM or DENY EG score until I ACTUALLY played the game and FORMED my own JUDGEMENT."
OMG TEH LOGICS |
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You know, I have never enjoyed the MGS world. I highly doubt that I would enjoy MGS4 as much as people say that I would.
Also note, that all reviewers are biased (maybe towards a console, a genre or a certain game). Because they are humans and have opinions about this and that. That's why we enjoy (or hate) to read their reviews. Otherwise we might as well just get AIs to compare graphics to a certain standard, storyline to a standard, etc etc. Which would in turn be turned into something about the programmer being biased towards something or the other. Heck, I enjoyed Just Cause. It generally didn't get super great scores but I enjoyed it alot. I have always wondered when scores have become the main issue (and when 7 or 8 became bad scores) instead of the actual text the reviewer writes. That is almost like seeing a review and a score for a Harry Potter book and then shouting wildly whilst flailing your arms like a limp banana-monkey because the score wasn't the highest possible score ever instead of just reading what the reviewer didn't like (or did like) about the book. As for Tom's review, let me sum it up. It's like going for a drink in a bar and having a good time to start with, a really good time. Then when you get to a certain point you start to feel bad and by end of this middle point you puke you guts out. Afterwards everything is dandy and good but you still have the foul taste of your earlier puking. And when you get home at last you find that you had a fairly good time but all the damn puking makes it not the greatest night. So yeah, lots of drinking, fun times, the puking, then some good times again because you aren't puking but it still leaves a bad taste in your mouth after the whole experience. |
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DarthMorbus
21/05/09 @ 01:40
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"(and when 7 or 8 became bad scores)"
They started becoming bad scores when lots of magazines/websites/reviewers/etc started to use 7 to represent a truly average game rather than 5. A 7 isn't a bad score though and if I've had a long time interest in a game and EDGE or EG give the game 6 or higher then it won't stop me buying it, in fact I usually enjoy games that I like the look of that they score 6. You basically have to get to know the publication's review scheme now to judge what is considered a good or bad score rather than just taking it that a 5 is average (well other than the two I've mentioned as they work on 5 as average, at least in my opinion). Having said that, as people have already pointed out, review text is always more important than the score. In some reviews (and I think all publications are guilty of this to some extent), the text does not match up to the score I expect. In this review for instance I was expecting a 6 from the text but as we all know it was actually a 7. This means one of two things, either the reviewer didn't emphasise some of the good points as much as could have been done or, alternatively, the frame of mind I was in at the time of reading made the bad points stand out to me more. The laughable ones are when you read a long list of errors that really should result in a low score and then the review finishes with a 9 or 10 at the end of it (something I have never seen EG be guilty of). |
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